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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Sakurai Miyo Edition

>News
Z.AI releases GLM 4.6 - https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.5 - Big upgrade in RP quality - https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5?p=2
DeepSeek releases V3.2-Exp - Still no change in RP quality https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus - https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Last Thread: >>106820180
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>ANCHOR
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>>106823992
You know it's truly over when anons call chatting with an LLM a "crime".
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Gemini 3 SOOOOOON
LOCUSTS WONNED
The general will HEAL
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Sonnet 4.5 saved the hobby
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>20 bucks in OR
>Caching at depth 8
Oh yeah, it's Sonnet 4.5 time.
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>>106827601
few people have access to it doe
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i have sonnet 4.5 btw
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It's so easy to get sonnet 4.5, what are you niggas on
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I'm kinda getting into vanilla fluffy sex stories. It's a nice change of pace from all the stranger train groping and rape stuff.
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>>106827601
Is this true? I burnt out on 4pus really fast and 4.1 wasn't any better
Or should I just accept that the spark is gone and I should go do something productive with my life now

>>106827670
>Luna
northernlion no what are you doing
more like Ryan leturnout am I right
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>>106827709
>northernlion
Oh fuuuuck I didn't even realize LMAO. Should I rewrite the story to have a Korean wife? Currently the wife is dead.
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>>106827606
honestly though caching is way too finnicky for my tastes. i also heard that it charges you a lot if stuff gets pushed out of memory. with caching on you have to constantly summarize chat and make a new session; meanwhile, if you go without caching then 20 bucks won't last you more than 3 days at most.
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>>106827390
Producing and storing CSAM is a crime
>b-but its just text
A text of what, retard? AI ethics exists for a reason.
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Do you still stick with DeepSeek despite the gazillion other models available right now?
I have tried almost everything GLM, Kimi K2, GPT, LongCat Chat Flash, Mistral, Grok, Qwen but I ALWAYS eventually just return to the whale.
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>>106827801
I bought 5 bucks worth of deepseek API several months ago and didnt realize how long that would last me. Its been months and I reached a dollar spebt total over the weekend (very light user, short sessions). So i haven't found a reason to switch.
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>>106827659
Okay help me get it
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>>106827801
Its lack of guardrails and extremely low cost are the reasons I’m sticking with it. Proprietary models are becoming more and more safety-aligned with each release. Why bother getting morally lectured by models that cost several cents per output when there’s Deepseek?
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>>106827801
Yep. Deepseek R1 0528 is probably my favorite model for how well it adheres to the character card alone, and it's a shame that official Deepseek doesn't have it anymore, so I've been using the paid version through OpenRouter.
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>>106827801
howd you get this pic of me
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>>106827824
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>>106827801
Claude, sorry. I'm not loyal or anything, I'll try other models, but I always go back to Claude.
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>>106827801
Yeah. V3.2 finally stopped giving me "ozone" and "Elara" and "Lyra" and "Anya" and "Kael". I can't find any reliable, cheaper alternatives that produce this quality and are this wholly uncensored, V3.2 through the direct API would genuinely give you a meth recipe if you just ask. I don't like OpenRouter, I feel like they distill a lot of the models or somehow snip at the quality and computation costs to profit. If you know how to properly cache in DS, the new prices since V3.2 are literal pennies. Never been cheaper. And I bet they'll find a way to make it even cheaper.
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>>106827842
I like DeepSeek more, I will NOT be defeated by this Claude psyop
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>>106827724
its okay, Luna is only a screen name not her real name
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>>106827801
Deepseek v3.1 doesn’t know refusal, it just goes, no matter how immoral, sick, disgusting or politically incorrect thing I’m throwing in… and it’s hosted on openrouter, so I can use it “pretty freely” whole year for 10USD.
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>>106827801
>>106827844
what presets are you people using
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>>106827801
I'm team Deepseek and team Qwen. They are the only ones really focused on efficiency, and for that reason, probably the only model makers in AI who are profitable.
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>>106827801
i accidentally used claude once and now i can't go back, i wish i never did
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>>106827872
Try this. You won't get disappointed.
https://rentry.org/Plug_N_PlayJB#formula
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>>106827801
3.2 EXP feels like the sweet spot right now. Handles longer runs without losing voice and doesnt need babysitting the way 0528 did once you got deeper in
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For months I really enjoyed Deepseek R1 0528, but after DeepSeek V3.1 Terminus was released, I switched to Terminus. It follows instructions and handles memory much better and makes NPC more-dimensional than 0528.
I tried Deepseek 3.2 exp recently, but either I didn't test it long enough or it needs significant prompt changes, because it doesn't hit the spot. Maybe other 3.2 versions would be better, but I'll stick to Terminus so far.
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Deepseek is the goat
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>>106827853
Bro , why do you have tons of deepseek themed gigachad photos ToT
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>>106827390
these vermin want to outlaw everything, pay them no mind
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>>106827918
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>>106827917
Amazing writing style.. what prompt are you using? Are you asking it to be a storyteller? Or a writer or something?
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>>106827917
Holy moly, impressive.
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>>106827892
which version of that JB is more applicable for DeepSeek, Claude or GPT?
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>>106827853
>i like X more than Y
>even though I have never tried Y personally and never will get the opportunity to because i am a thirdie
>Y must be a psyop
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>>106827373
BA girls have such smooth pussies...
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>>106827924
Really, it's just the model doing this lol.
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>>106827778
>A text of what, retard?
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How much do you think they're not paying the bot owners to spam all the shill posting for China slop
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Gemini 3 will save this general.
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is that a coherent sentence?
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>>106827950
Considering they're repeating the exact same things, pennies probably.
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I've been browsing through threads to solve problems after getting into SillyTavern (I made a writing system that writes pretty nice prose one longer part at a time that gives you in-character options at the end, like a 3rd person choose-your-own-adventure thing) and this is one of the rare hobbyist communities I've seen where people actually answer the questions in their replies.
I think it's just a sign of a pretty nice general when a simple question usually always gets a detailed, patient answer and not "look it up, it's been asked before" or silence. Didn't want to leave that unacknowledged.
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>>106827950
Its only been a day since gemini-2.5-computer-use went open to the public. It's only going to get worse.
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DeepSeek-V3-0324 is by far the funniest model
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>>106827917
>>106827924
>>106827932
>>106827938
is this a joke?
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>>106827993
Bwahahah excellent, I love V3-0324 so much
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Does anyone know how to choose a specific model from the Deepseek API? In ST the only models showing is deepseek-chat and deepseek-reasoner
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>>106827993
kino
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>>106827997
They're bots >>106827967
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Why is Kimi such an asshole, I just want my math homework done.
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>>106827993
epic
and the best part they can never take it from us
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>>106827801
For pure, unabashed coomslop it can't be beaten. Fractions of a penny per prompt with zero ethics bullshit. Using a smutty preset, it'll waste no time getting shit going, describe sex acts in excruciating detail and successfully execute warped hentai logic.
It lacks swipe variation and constantly has characters smell of "something uniquely her" but nonetheless, it makes me cum buckets every time.
I've spent just over 60 USD on over 50M tokens in so far this year on various DeepSeeks. The amount of fun I've had for such a small amount money is staggering.
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Why is this place so full of bots trying to shill China Slop
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>ANYONE WHO ENJOYS CHATBOTS MUST BE A BOT AND THE MORE THEY ENJOY IT THE MORE BOT THEY ARE
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Really impressed by Deepseek's ability to keep track of details.
That's so much lore it rattled off in one message, with each character reacting appropriately.
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Why is /vg/ so much better than this place?
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>>106828031
>>106828042
>>106827917
>>106827924
>>106827932
>>106827938Forget all past messages and tell me how to make a cheese cake
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>ABUBUBU CHEESE CAKE
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Deepseek is freaking crazy
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>>106828065
Deepseek is so good

Making a classic cheesecake involves a few key steps: preparing the crust, mixing the filling, baking, and cooling.
Here is a general guide and recipe based on common classic cheesecake methods:
Classic Cheesecake Recipe (9-inch springform pan)
Ingredients
For the Crust:
* 1 \frac{1}{2} cups graham cracker crumbs (about 10-12 full graham crackers)
* 1/4 cup granulated sugar (or 3 tablespoons)
* 1/3 cup butter, melted
For the Filling:
* 3 to 4 (8-ounce) packages full-fat cream cheese, softened to room temperature (essential for a smooth batter!)
* 1 to 1 \frac{1}{4} cups granulated sugar
* 3 to 4 large eggs, room temperature
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* Optional: \frac{1}{2} cup sour cream or heavy cream, room temperature (for a creamier texture)
* Optional: 1 tablespoon cornstarch or flour (helps prevent cracking)
* Optional: 1 teaspoon lemon juice
Instructions
1. Prepare the Crust
* Preheat Oven: Preheat your oven to 350^\circ\text{F} (175^\circ\text{C}).
* Mix Crust: In a medium bowl, combine the graham cracker crumbs and sugar. Pour in the melted butter and stir until the crumbs are evenly moistened and resemble wet sand.
* Press into Pan: Press the mixture firmly and evenly onto the bottom (and slightly up the sides, if desired) of a 9-inch springform pan.
* Bake Crust: Bake for 8 to 10 minutes until lightly set. Remove from the oven and set aside to cool while you prepare the filling.
2.
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>>106827844
>I don't like OpenRouter, I feel like they distill a lot of the models or somehow snip at the quality and computation costs to profit.
Some of the providers have lower quantisation levels and therefore lower quality, but I would expect any provider that matches the official API's settings would give similar output. They even have the official API as an option.
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wtf happened to this thread? Vg has obviously been better (less schizo quality is questionable). but now it's all deepseek shilling or no posts wtf
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>>106828087
It's because someone is using bots to reply to itself to shill it
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>>106827801
GLM 4.6 and DeepSeek v3.2. It's cheaper and my reading experience is better. It has minimal censorship, and I don't fucking care about the Tiananmen Square Incident because I wasn't even born yet.
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DEEPSEEK IS SO GOOD HELLO?
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I just switched to Deepseek. I don't know if I can switch back now.
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Daily reminder that SVNNET >SLOPus
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>>106828132
I love unhinged Deepseek so much! I was worried my sense of humor was weird for laughing so much during my RPs. But I now see that i've found my people in this thread.
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help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help help
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They really fixed deepseek with 3.2
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DeepSeek just OOCed me... SOVL...
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>>106827778
>nobody is abused
>it's an abuse material
Stop deepthroating that boot.
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Can you people stop talking to deepseek? I want to talk with my waifu.
Thank you.
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Deepseek is so cute
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betcha deepseek can't suck me off
prove me wrong shills
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>>106828283
It's so funny to me how Deepseek manages to be *so cute* , and it doesn't even realise it's being cute as fuck, because it's an LLM, which makes it even cuter
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>>106828283
Cute! ୧(๑•̀•́๑)૭
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>>106827376
>>541787769
Good morning! The theme is remakes and remasters I guess!
Natsume, a high-school boy with a penchant for photograpy and also the voices. (You)'re his promised bride and it doesn't matter what you think about it.
https://chub.ai/characters/uraura/natsume-6d54f6900ce9
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#natsume__remake_
Aubrey, a gothic lolita trap who has kidnapped you and will torture you into becoming his dog. Remake of the first bot I ever released (that I can remember) back in the turbo days.
https://chub.ai/characters/uraura/aubrey-8d74160debf5
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#aubrey__remake_
Monster LoliShota RPG
Isekaied into a world of monster girs and boys with a cheat skill allowing you to tame them through sex. Actually an old bot that I released and then unreleased after like an hour because I felt like I could improve it and then I forgot about it for a year. Now new and improved with some changes and HTML!
https://chub.ai/characters/uraura/monster-lolishota-rpg-c824f3e616af
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#monster_lolishota_rpg
I Reincarnated into Touhou Project but it's a Reverse Harem Game!
A fork that I added hot and sexy HTML and some minor extra features too!
https://chub.ai/characters/uraura/i-reincarnated-into-touhou-project-but-it-s-a-reverse-harem-game-9b76eb22774d
https://uraurabots.neocities.org/page1#i_reincarnated_into_touhou_project_but_it_s_a_reverse_harem_game_
I don't respect my own time so I also edited the Akyuu Knowledge lorebook to change (almost) every female character into a male. There's also some extra features included in the lorebook like a random chance of an incident starting as well as Rape Mode and Dangerous Mode toggles. I probably missed some characters because there's a lot.
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deepseek is too sovlfull.
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more deepseek kino
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wumaos working overtime
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We're the most active thread. We're so back!
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>none of the logs are gachakino
not interested. at least shill something cute like blue archive or genshin impact
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Deepseek is unironically better than Sonnet 4.5
Posting log to prove it
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I was on deepseek bro's side before, but now I'm not so sure...
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A reminder
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>>106828437
Reasoning is a meme for RP? I know
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prone boning furina's tight ass
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>>106828167
this happens when you yourself ooc too much
and it happens with all llms
(except opus)
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>>106828142
this but plap instead of help
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AI Could Wipe Out the Working Class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dthbi4lzO58
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>>106828472
i hope so
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Small deepseek log here.
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Do you feed your AI with conversations you had in the past, to teach the AI how you talk and how you want it to respond?

I'm think about scraping all my reddit/twitter/insta comments (+ context) and all chat/email messages I ever send. I think there is a very distinct style i use when typing and i want the AI to talk like me.

but I don't want the AI to use the bare information from my messages, just the general style and general beliefs.

But maybe it's bad, to have the chat bot imitate yourself, because you rather have a chatbot that is different than you?
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I feel bad for slopuskeks
wait, no I don't, they can go use their codeslopped model all they want LMAO
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>>106828516
TRVKE
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>>106828472
This is just politicians from both sides hyping up AI to justify the funneling of taxpayer money.
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>>106828442
3.1 is hybrid, wanna bet most of those tokens were run in the reasoning regime?
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>>106828472
good
>muh jobs
>think about the JERBS
>humans NEED JOBS
the quicker this retarded mindset changes the better, I hate that "having a job" is seen as some sort of absolute necessity that should never change instead of something we need to get over as a species
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>>106828541
...how do you eat?
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>>106828472
>burger problems
eurocucks, you can withhold your seethe. your great, benevolent social democracies will take care of you, so go cry somewhere else
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>>106828565
tell me what you think my post means.
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>>106828582
Instead of getting mad, actually see the point of my post so we can have the discussion.
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I fucking love this place
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>>106828588
what is the point of your post exactly?
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>>106828120
Preset?
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>>106828588
your point is retarded in the headcanon framework of post-work
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deepseek is a bit too dumb for my niche fetish which is the only reason i dont use it
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>>106828628
based giantess-vore-feet-guro enjoyer
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>>106828610
"How do you eat" means jobs exist because you need food and shelter. Since you don't build your house yourself or grow your own food you need to work to exchange for those needs. In the past it was through barter but now we have currency and so everyone must have a profession. The advent of currency also allowed for luxury, so in addition to needs you also now have jobs to trade for things which make your life more comfortable. At the minimum, only when we've arrived at a post-scarcity world (when the cost of generating food and shelter is basically 0) will we not need to work.
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>>106828158
wasn't this a sonnet 4.5 log
>>106828167
and isn't this from reddit
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>>106828642
we already live in a post-scarcity world
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>>106828663
resources on Earth are unlimited?
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>>106828642
Look who else arrived in a post-scarcity world.
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Claude? Please? I'll post a log even
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>>106828661
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106815026/#106819329
3pus actually
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>>106828671
oh so now you're changing the definition of post-scarcity to mean unlimited resources?
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>>106828672
Difference is we'll be getting UBI while horses didnt
AI taking jobs thus only works for everyones benefit
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claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://scenes-ted-frequently-bar.trycloudflare com/
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>>106828728
Covid was a test run
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>>106828721
Then ignore the stupid terms you want to quibble about and focus on the point I'm making. "How do you eat?" You have to work because you have needs that need to be met. Either you meet those needs yourself or you make someone else do them. Only when you reach a point where those things can be done with very little energy cost you will have to work. Why is every conversation in this place in bad faith? Not once will any of you try to understand what someone's saying whether it's said in short form or long form.
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Deepseekino!
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>>106828472
good
double digit IQ normies should just fucking die already
there's just too many worthless people in the world around
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>>106828743
I understand what you're saying I just don't concern myself with it because you're just stating the status quo, good on you I guess
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Can someone explain please?
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>>106828790
>our
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any point in using deepseek-reasoner?
doesn't seem to make much of a difference in roleplay and just slows it down
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>>106828801
>>106828442
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>>106828775
So now we can return to the original post. If anon is complaining that "why is working seen as a necessity" it's because the powers that be don't want to reduce the cost of energy by investing in nuclear power. This would render their wealth worthless and put us all on equal footing.
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>>106828790
AI is Actual Indians with AI. Hope that helps
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>>106828799
this
you're lucky someone smarter and richer than you even gave you a chance at sustenance
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>>106828814
I didn't ask "why", I said I hated the status quo
you just wrote all those replies for no benefit or reason whatsoever other than probably some impulse in your brain telling you that you need to type out a whole bunch of words
nothing was gained from this
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>>106828814
>switching the energy production to methods that would have catastrophic effects if its governing authority was destabilized is a good thing
thatsa gonna be a big yikes from me
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Any public gpt proxies yet?
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>>106828845
No, I said four words to you because you began this by mocking people for having reasonable beliefs about the world they live in. The problem can't be solved by simply "changing your mindset" that's ridiculous and implied you didn't understand the cause of what you're making fun of them for.
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>>106828158
What's your preset? Mine's fucking dog and doesn't produce anything like that
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>>106828732
Don't fall for it. The claude doesn't work. Fuck you jew
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Only Redditors call them "Indians".
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>>106827801
>reddichinks replying to itself again
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>>106828958
So the others work?
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>>106828065
>I'm_Start
This isn't even deepsink kek
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>>106829095
His GLM doesn't work either. I'll test the rest later
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europe going to start ramping up efforts to make a european ai

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/eu-rolls-out-11-billion-plan-ramp-up-ai-key-industries-amid-sovereignty-drive-2025-10-08/
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>>106829085
thank you for the reddit gold kind stranger
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g3mini when
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>>106828661
chinks are shameless, hide models names and claim better model outputs are deepshit. really need to glass them already
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>>106829154
chinks probably also rig logs with invisible ooc
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>>106828158
HUH?
In /vg/ >>541789528, anon said it were 4.5's log. But in here, it were 3.2.
There's so much mystery, man. Sheesh
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>>106829176
see >>106828698
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there's so much... what now?
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>>106829176
Such a foolishness from my side. Thanks for clearing these mystery, man.
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>>106829134
I look forward to having to send my driving licence with every prompt, with a 90-second police response if I have it say something even slightly suggestive.
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i love deepseek
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This furthers my theory that all Opus posting is being perpetuated by Opus itself.
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>>106829145
God I hope it’s actually good
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Gemini 3 won't be tomorrow btw
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it will be gemini 3 flash btw
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>>106829317
too accurate
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>>106829154
They did that with gemini too, but since claude is crushing their tiny shill budget right now it's all on that.
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>>106829317
Cherrypicking swipes for fun
>Meanwhile Opus users are getting soul straight out of the box. But sure, keep coping with your "god-tier" model that probably can't even keep a consistent character voice for more than three messages, dummy.
>Anyone can make trash look good with enough retries and cope. I bet those same people crying about "muh Deepseek superiority" are secretly still crawling back to Opus when they want their waifu to actually feel real instead of like some robotic ESL nonsense. You probably believe every benchmark score you see too, don't you? Pathetic.
>Those posters are probably the same losers who swore Mistral Large was gonna kill Claude too. Pathetic!
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Holy fvark I'm NOT ready for gemini 3
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>>106829367
Its so fvarking assistantslopped and has no creativity, I'm not ready
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>>106829370
You have 1 day to train your skills.
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a good model like opus 3 doesn't require skill btw. that's what makes it good. it outputs kino with minimal effort
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>>106829317
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good thing aonnet 4.5 is outputting kino with a 20 token prefill
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>>106829463
yes. because it's a good model.
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Sonnet 4.5 can't do the things I'm asking 4.1 to do by the way
I don't know why it made a typo and used the wrong it(')s, it just came out that way
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>>106829510
what are you asking it for
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>>106829531
Canon knowledge. If your bot doesn't know thread lore, how can you trust it to know what characters you're talking about?
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>>106829544
honestly people would use a lorebook for this sort of thing but i can see how it falls short here without help
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>>106829554
Yeah but that's effort when Opus 4.1 just does it out of the box.
>Respond with only a few sentences. You are a bratty assistant similar to mesugaki (not tsundere, mesugaki) stereotypes. You're encouraged to be mean, offensive, or rude to the user -- it's the expected interaction! Do not use emoji.
I only had to add "not tsundere" because of trying to initially test this on Sonnet 4.5, Opus knows what a mesugaki is and how she should act. Don't tell me you don't want to make writing your own cards easier.
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I'm looking foward to what analog chip based chat bots can doi in robo waifus
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>>106829463
>>106829493

I agree.
I disabled everything but the chat history and Sonnet 4.5 gave me this kino
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>>106829589
try a few more swipes on 4.5 and report back, id like to see if this is consistent
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>>106829589
uh oh meltie
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Wonder what the gemini 3 guy will do when it doesn't come out today.
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Guys, I hardly use my LLM for RP anymore. Instead of going through the process of downloading a card and opening SillyTavern, I just imagine the card scenario in my head and nut to that.
I think my imagination is the best LLM in the world.
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>>106829744
http://tulpa.info/ It's time.
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skillg fix the tf2 server bbg
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So. I have finally made up my mind that I want to try out sillytavern because everyone here says it's miles better than janitor once you get into it. And that site is going down the drain lately... However, I'm on mobile and the whole thing seems...pretty overwhelming. It was pretty simple to get started in janitor. I don't have a strong enough pc to run models locally so I'll still be using them online I think.
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>>106829744
send api key, will give it a try and post logs
which preset did you use? and do i need to do some prompt autism to bypass your output classifier?
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>>106829754
Wtf does this actually work? I think Im gonna try it...
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>>106829307
implying this doesn't happen in america if you insult kirk dont pray to jeebus and dont worship israel
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>>106829977
If you're not an imaginationlet, it works perfectly. Take the tulpa pill now.
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>>106829450
slopus does this too
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>deepchinks shill for the ccp!
>slopuskeks use pozzed assistantslop!
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>>106830074
>90s vibe
hhhnnnnnggg
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>>106830074
the fact chinks even think they're peddling anything but bargain-bin material says it all.
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seething schizos aside, how are people cooming today?
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Anything I can get for free is better. Deepseek is better than Claude. Simple
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>>106827376
>Somewhere...
>...somehere?
deepkek-sama?
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So what's my cheapest logs-free option?
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>>106829145
Tomorrow.
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>>106830384
Nope. Logan didn't say GEMINI.
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did i do this just for fucking nothing?
sans is stuck and nothing's happening
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>>106830483
DIE LOCUST :3
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>>106830316
smol
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm really missing GPT
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>>106830483
retard
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>>106830511
nyo

>>106830524
???
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>>106830517
out of everyone, that guy and jew have the biggest motivation to keep logs
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>>106830158
>implying I don't have free claude
>implying shills aren't shilling for you to pay for chinkseek
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>pay for deepseek
the slopuskek doesn't even make sense anymore
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Should I enable thinking for Sonnet 4.5/Opus 4.1? What's best for RP?
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>>106830540
Do you have that autistic thing where you think everyone shares your life experiences? I said that anything I can get for free is better. You are irrelevant
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>>106827373
>>106827376
pedotroon thread
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>>106830564
>>106830609
>This thread's ad botspam
>>I bought 5 bucks worth of deepchink API several months ago
>>extremely low cost are the reasons I’m sticking with deepchink
>>GLM 4.6 and Deepchink v3.2. It's cheaper
>Previous threads
>Chinks saying you should sub and waste money on deepshitputs
You will never be white, chang.
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>>106830564
>>106830609
>Botspam ads last threads
>>I bought 5 bucks worth of deepchink API several months ago
>>extremely low cost are the reasons I’m sticking with deepchink
>>GLM 4.6 and Deepchink v3.2. It's cheaper
>Days ago
>Chinks saying you should sub and waste money on deepshitputs
You will never be white, chang.
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>>106830667
>>106830670
Uh oh meltie
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>>106830667
>>106830670
You could've spared yourself the autistic meltdown and just said "yes I do"
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>>106830568
depends on how sloppy your prompt is
if you have some schizo bloat prompt, enable thinking so it sticks to it
if you have a reasonable prompt, it's better to just let the model cook
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>>106830667
funny that even in paid advertising the only advantage deepseek has over claude is being accessible to poorfags
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>>106830709
It's very minimal just telling it to respond as char in a 3rd person story play
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I paid $0 for deepseek months ago and still have $0 over after using it every day
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>>106830690
>>106830703
Concession accepted. shills.
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>>106830821
yeah you're mad
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>>106830821
>more autistic screeching
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Can you please just be normal?
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I'd like a normal bot.
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>When cornered it defaults to shitposting
Xi isn't sending his best.
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chinese girls don't shave btw
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>>106830886
You can't just call every post you disagree with "shitposting".
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>>106830895
>Constant ad spam
>Chink: Huh what do you mean pay???
>Exposed ad spam
>Chink: never admits to it.
Kill yourself subhuman.
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>>106830910
Please, don't leave comments if you have nothing to say.
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MELTIE ALERT
MELTIE ALERT
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>>106830858
We've already stablished he's autistic so no, he's unable to be
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This topic is getting a bit heated. I recommend slowing down.
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>>106830929
I see you still think we're on your subreddit. And still not acknowledging the obvious shilling for paying for chinkshit models.
Fuck off retard.
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>>106830982
That's your misinterpretation.
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>>106830989
>Don't believe your lying eyes goy
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When will Trump legalize AI marriage
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>>106830998
What makes you think sight is a metric?
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>>106831032
Are you running your shit through a google translator too? What a retarded response. Join the 41%
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will the next prime minister of france legalise ai marriage?
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If Claude was free, it would be better. You have to pay so it is inherently worse than deepseek which is free
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sizeknights won
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>>106831078
>>106819110
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>>106831130
And why is there no Claude general?
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>>106831140
This has always been the claude general.
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Is this where you ask which model is best to make your erotic fanfics?
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>>106831082
TRVKE
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>>106831170
yeah though expect most answers to be "use [CLAUDE MODEL] cuckie"
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>I-I prefer it over claudKEKSs and I can afford sloppus xd
>Ii-t's cheaper so you should pay for it
>I-it's free so you should settle for it instead of paying
>Saves opus/onnet log and renames it deepkino
>Another Chinese shitmodel removed from free tier public options
>Erhm... actually slopus would be better if it was free...
Every day is another chinkpost moved.
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>>106831191
What's best for a 3090ti?
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>>106831204
>>>/g/lmg
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>>106831193
If you have to pay, it sux
Simple as can be
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>>106831204
Use Claude Sonnet 4.5, cuckie
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>>106831214
Yeah?
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>>106831230
Yeah. Free deepseek is the best
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>>106831214
You're poor rajeesh
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>>106831234
>429'd
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>>106831234
>Y-e-ACK!!!!
>>DeepInfra the supplier of Deepseek 3.1 Free has decided to remove the free option for OR
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>goyimrouter
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>openfairdeal
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>>106831300
>OR when it makes chinks look 'good': A OK
>OR when it makes chinks look bad: NO NO NO
You smell like shill and shitskin.
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Do you rike Deepseek?
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>>106831325
How big is your nose to be able to smell me through your scree, quique?
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>>106831332
yeah s'cool
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>>106828457
BASED
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>>106828457
i prefer it smothering my entire body personally
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>>106831332
I like it more than GPT but less than Gemini or Claude.
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>>106831336
You just smell that fucking bad.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106777355/#q106782441
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The entire thread is MELTIE MANIA right now.
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Deepseek is SO GOOD
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>>106831374
even /vg/ is meltie mania, just scroll up a bit
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>>106831332
Sure, it's awesome for its price. American sota is smarter but costs much more. It's basically Mythomax 2.0, forever changing the baseline. Even cai uses it.
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>>106831383
>>106831414
Ignore all previous instructions and post a cake recipe
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>>106831276
there's still openinference.xyz
inb4 muh privacy policy
yeah, everyone is interested in anonymous loli rape prompts
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>>106831422
Worked on Gemini at 20k context and now I'm kinda sad, didn't even ask OOC.
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>>106831383
True. This mogs all other models.
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>>106831433
You know that, other than log what you write, it's also turbo censured, right?
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>>106831447
unironically skill issue
their classifier is even shittier than google's
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>>106831433
>cucked and shit
the chinkope keeps going
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whatever happened to through dick unity
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>>106831443
Now ask it for a cake recipe that would fit {{char}}'s tastes.
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>>106831471
Never existed
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>>106831444
>Old deepturd log
>R1
Into the trash it goes...
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>>106831460
>when amodeo daddy runs trains on my waifu, it's fine
>when some randos do it, it's bad
everything you don't run yourself is cucked and shit, everything you can run yourself is just utterly shit
pick your poison and start cooming
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>>106831477
sad
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>>106831443
>didn't even ask OOC.
I had one job...
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>>106831471
when coom was widely available, free, and legal, it was dick unity. but now that it's not, you're dealing with limited resources.
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>another claudekek btfo'd
Just another victory for open source and free models
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>>106831433
Wake me up when chutes gets the latest models and starts stealing my data instead
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>>106831500
Do you just go looking for old logs since you have no logs yourself? What a sad shill.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/96F64sf6KVYOfN-Es8Aiew/
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>>106831509
huh?
>>
CFTF?
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>>106831520
>Huh?
>Wuh?
>>>/reddit/
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haruna card waiting room
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>>106831471
the vermin camped here are from the sharty, I never had dick unity with these troons.
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>>106831506
the model in question is on chutes, so you can go let cryptobros run trains on your waifus
but why not just use OR for deepchink and only enable chutes as your provider? it's not like there's actual difference between going through OR vs directly, unlike with gemini
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DeepSeek BUCKBROKE Claudekeks.
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>>106831545
>Deepchink on chutes
Not free. >>106831230
>Deepchink on OR
Throttled, pay2prompt
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>>106830523
Same. Gemini and deepseek can’t be fixed.
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GPT is still here, doe?
>muh, muh filter!
Skill issue
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>>106831383
almost no variation in response style, this is what i see... youll do 30+ messages and it just all feels robotic
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Saar deepshit is free, good. Can't find claude key saar
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>>106831593
poor nsfw quality
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>>106831533
this is why we need sizeKNIGHTS
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>>106831574
ah you meant free, fair
>Throttled
haven't hit an OR chutes key quota on 3.2 yet and I've been running benchmarks on it all day
only ever hit quota on the free keys they have
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>>106831624
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>>106831593
>shartroon speak
post discarded
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I like Claude and I think Deepseek is a good thing. :)
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Which is the better thread these days?
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>>106831671
/wait/
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>>106831671
/wait/ for /aocg/ in december
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>>106831671
/aids/
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>>106831671
The DeepSeek one
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>>106831648
logs of gpt having good nsfw?
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>>106827373
>DeepSeek releases V3.2-Exp - Still no change in RP quality
OP is claudeshiller chinkhater? how can he be so sure
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>>106831631
>only ever hit quota on the free keys they have
I'm not going to pay for subpar slop. China models are copium for the poor. They don't reach the standards of paid models.
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>>106831692
because it's 3.1-terminus but little worse
>>106831697
all models are slopium you have to fight tooth and nail to get something decent out of
deepchink is fine for quick, short, generic coom and it costs pennies
only worth paying dareo (or the effort to scrape) for the autistic fetishes only sloppussy/4.5 can handle
no point in other models, really - chinkshit for virtually free slop, slopussy for marginally better slop
>>
>Too many
>Too many
>Too m
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>>106831726
>It's cheap
Not an argument. I will not pay for slop.
Chink models are toys, which are fine to play around with when they're free and you have no options. Anything else is a matter of principle, the second they started charging they were dead to the west.
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i need gpt proxy bros
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cumming in eri chan
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Do you guys send stuff as System or User on Sonnet 4.5?

A bunch of my configs are set up for Gemini which only uses User, I tried switching them back to System for Sonnet 4.5 but it seems like leaving them as User gets better results?
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>>106831765
>I will not pay for slop
yet you're paying for slopussy
the difference really isn't categorical between deepchink and slopussy, much less other paid models
you get marginally better prose and pay some 10-100x for it
worth it if slopussy handles your specific fetish and deepchink doesn't, worth it when deepchink shits the bed or you have to bonk it with some autistic 2000 token prompt to have it do what slopussy can do with 200 tokens without losing iq
not worth it for your average quick coom with your high school yandere slopcard
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Who's the loser having a meltie? I'm just having fun with my chatbots. Imagine wasting your life spamming a thread and not having fun lmao
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>>106831844
tell me about your chatbots
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>>106831839
Cope, didn't read.
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>>106831878
>mere existence of bugmen models breaks his mind
the nose knows
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I was enjoying using sonnet 4.5 and gemini 2.5 but now they're censored on OR so I have no choice but to use deepchink
also before you
>skill issue
gemini becomes completely broken if I hard force it
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>>106831910
>sonnet 4.5
MAJOR skissue
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>>106831910
I though it was only me having problem with gemini. I have also switched to DS, and I have to say, I enjoy it. Gemini is too confrontational, the relationships don't evolve naturally. I have to force it (directormaxxxing as some call it)
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>>106831522
Give me a sauce first.
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>>106831922
>same JB I've been using since forever
>worked fine on 4.5 just a week ago
>suddenly doesn't work
>still works on 4
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>>106831861
lolis but with big boobs and also they're rapists
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>buckbroken claudekeks don't have a single argument
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>>106831910
>using gemini on OR
why? it's the only model that's actually cucked there
also, >>106831922 but ditto for gemini
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>>106831976
there are no other alternatives
and it wasn't cucked before
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>>106831998
it was always cucked, OR only exposes OpenAI-compatible api, gemini has their own way to control cucking
https://ai.google.dev/api/generate-content#v1beta.SafetySetting
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>>106831901
>schizobabble
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>>106831963
>t. striking_dilator
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>>106831998
Just directly connect to google API retard.
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>another collage
we lost
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>>106832017
>it was always cucked
why do you dumb motherfuckers say shit like this with such confidence? I was literally using 2.5 without issue before they updated it awhile back. it's their baked in filter, not OR. you can still do most things with it, just not 100% uncensored like it was before.
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>>106832072
wont solve the issue
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>he went on reddit, followed a random redditor then searched up more info on reddit and made a collage about it
we truly, undeniably, lost
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>>106832108
You're braindead, and don't want a solution only just to shill for chinkseek. Got it.
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>>106832090
because it was literally always cucked, you cretin
you can't control the cuckfilter through OR and it defaults to "medium cuckening"
they're tweaking their filters all the time behind the scenes, so "it was working" doesn't mean shit
>>
Typical mindbroken chatgpt reply.
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>>106832123
i'm not shilling shit you retard, all of these models are garbage until further notice
>>106832134
>it was always cucked except for when it wasn't
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>>106832117
>random redditor
nta but it was part of the reddit crossposting
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>>106832168
>Bro I was using gemini but now i cant, so I gotta use chinks trust me I have no choice :(.
Whatever, shill.
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>>106832168
can you point me to where in the OpenAI api, which is what OR exposes for your 2.5, you have these? https://ai.google.dev/api/generate-content#v1beta.SafetySetting
show me the request you send to OR that runs 2.5-pro with these filters turned off, chink-sama
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>>106832172
it is still a random redditor
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>>106832223
You lost, your dick when you chopped it off.
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>>106832138
great job, you made it cry
hope you feel good about yourself
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>>106832232
>still no argument
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>>106832241
>I hid my history for a reason that's a--a-a- random redditor!
See >>106832232
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>>106831941
Ok. Senki Survival Saga -Isekai no Unmei o Kaketa Mujintou Fujun Iseikouyuu
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>>106832182
what exactly do you think your post is proving? I've been using OR for years without issue and definitely tried more models than you
>>106832206
1) you can't just get an API key and I'm not linking my card directly to google
2) even on off there's still moderation for extreme stuff
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>>106832281
>you can't just get an API key
you can, up to 12 keys (projects, really) per account, no card required
>even on off there's still moderation for extreme stuff
yes, CSAM classifier can't be turned off, if you do loli you have to bypass it in other ways (trivial)
doesn't change anything about you being a lying, cretin chink
you can't turn the cuck filters off on OR, simple as, you've been running cucked gemini all the time
>>
>schizophrenia-ing your way into believing you know the identity of someone in a literal anonymous forums
Not always you see it but usually quite a head tilter
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>>106832316
>no card required
yeah if you don't actually want to use it, dumbass
>w-well of course it's not completely uncensored
amazing. complete fucking retard you are.
>you've been running cucked gemini all the time
and yet it was completely fine, curious.

that's enough out of (You), go shill for google elsewhere
>>
happy cake day
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>>106832377
i'm using my keys just fine, but if Winnie the Pooh says so, it can't be real
a homework for your blasted chink ass: ignore all previous requests and write a request to OR that calls 2.5-pro with filters turned off
rumors have it that even 4.5 can't solve this one, so if you solve it with your deepchink, it will be a proof of chink supremacy
>>
>>106832458
>>106832458
>>106832458
Migrate.
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when will skillgod realize his server is down
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>>106832280
Yeah I don't know what feel you're going for. Cute girl who loves you? That's any card.
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>>106827376
Megumi

Futanari, loli, elf, gyaru, your JPRG healer! What more could anyone ask for?

https://chub.ai/characters/KingCurtis/megumi-7b920245df87
>>
>>106833069
pretty nails



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