What windowscel gonna do?
>>106829810inb4 wincel rage
>>106829810imagine not knowing you can modify the installation media
>>106829810They just keep pushing me and pushing me.
>Microsoft: you need internet access to install Windows>oh you dont have internet? you must be poor. access denied.BASED BEYOND BELIEF. THIRDIES IN TATTERS
>>106829847> 2024: Just use some cheat codes bro!> 2025: Just roll your own install image bro!> 2026: Just patch the installer binaries bro!> 2027: Just mod-chip your motherboard bro!> ,,,
Not an issue for piracy fags.
>>106829909>>1068298101. create throwaway microsoft account2. install windows2. delete account , switch back to localnow was that so hard? well, for you maybe.
ohhh the horror of making a dummy email account ohhh
>>106829943> i'm too retarded to see the trendfixed
>>106829909The humiliation rituals continue to grow
This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.https://atlasos.net/
>>106829909a /g/entleman would enjoy doing this. a/v/tard however ....
>>106829858this. I've already got a second system running it fulltime
>>106829810They'll never get rid of no Microsoft account mode. It's too integral to the is and boomers in the middle of nowhere won't be able to use it. It also has to support it for the use case where you're doing a clean install and there are no drivers for your wifi. Would lock you into setup forever if they didn't support it.
>>106830016
>>106829810OOBE\BYPASSNRO
Surely they won't patch in some nag screen. I've already installed the OS.
>>106829909yes, we'll keep on finding and using workarounds. Problem?
>>106830109Spoken like a true normalfag
>>106829810>Upgrading to IoT LTSC 22H2see you in 2032
>>106829909What's your point, faggot?As long as it's worth it, people will find a way to skip it. If it takes more effort compared to the benefits, then and only then it will be the time to find something else. Not even one split second earlier.
>>106829950This has become harder than you would expect, no one accepts random emails anymore and gmail/hotmail/etc all tend to demand phone numbers.
>>106830308you dont have to do any of those things when installing any os that isnt windows thoughj
>>106830073>Would lock you into setup forever if they didn't support it.You say that but the last laptop I had couldn't cleanly reinstall Windows 11 because it didn't support the WiFi and would blue screen during the installation. I had to disable the WiFi in the BIOS to get Windows to install.
>>106830363Mind you if that OOB/NOPASSNO or whatever hack didn't allow the creation of a local account, then a reinstall of Windows on this laptop may have been impossible (since it didn't have ethernet and I doubt Windows supports networking over USB like Linux does).
>>106829943>please enter phone number to create MS account>can't delete account, a local Account may not be the only account in this computer
>>106829943>kyc yourself to make accountyou forever link all your activity on your machine to your identity. You can't undo that
>>106829847>Having to use third party tools to SysAdmin your own fucking system because of MicrosoftGrim. Just install Linux at that point.
>>106829810they will never remove local accounts and force internet connection on enterprise editions>he doesnt use LTSCcomical
>>106830390>I doubt Windows supports networking over USB like Linux does).They do, actually. via WinPXE.
>>106830507They're trying to. They want folks to have a MS account. But enterprises are balking to where they're slinking back.Their AD tools want a MS account now, or was trying to. Same shit with Copilot in Wordpad and other bullshit. They're trying to cram their dick into SysAdmins asses and SysAdmins keep punching them in the nuts.
Why would you need to install windows? Just keep using 10 LTSC that you already have installed for another 10 years. New computer? Clone the disc. Updootrannies can switch to Linux.
Reminder there was a Linux distro called Jolicloud that required a Facebook account to use.
works on my machine
How long until Microsoft ransomwares all Windows users?>all your data has been encrypted with bitlocker, to regain access create a Microsoft account and send $400 USD in bitcoin to this wallet
>>106830073Do you really expect the retarded devjeets who work on Windows 11 to understand that? And Microsoft to give a fuck about people who install Windows by themselves and don't have a wifi driver?
tbf I don't even play modern video games so I could just swap to linux and nothing would change but linux is also pozzed as fuck so what's the point?
And faggots dare to ask>why do you hate windows 11 so much?
Why are people so asshurt about the mandatory MS account? Just create one, add a local profile and delete the other one. MS will spy on you anyway, no matter your login status
>>106829810If you really can't use 7, resolve to install 10.If you really can't use 10, resolve to install Linux.If you really can't use Linux, resolve to stop using a computer.If you really needed it for your job, resolve to find another job.But never give up, never let them win, never use Windows 11.
>>106830759My computer does not transmit or receive a single bit from the internet unless I explicitly approve it
>>106829810As long as enterprise customers have any value to microsoft, there will always be at least one method to install latest windows locally and offline. People who call themself journalists can fearmonger all they want but its not going to change anytime soon. It might not be super straightforward to set up, but it will always be possible. A simple workaround like rufus gives you working, unjeeted windows environment, that will be infinitely better than troonix.
>>106830715They already kinda did with the HW requirements for windows 11. The require you to either directly pay for ESU OR set up windows backup which will most likely take more space than the free tier of onedrive allows, so you are forced to pay anyway. EU called Microsoft out, so no one in EU is gonna be forced to pay, but rest are.Kinda fucked when you think that there are machines bought on windows 10 era that are incompatible with windows 11 and now you are being blackmailed.
>>106830361Didn't ask, don't care.>you want a steak? why don't you eat pizza instead?That's how grating you sound.
>>106830759>submitNo. Fuck you.
>>106830314Protonmail via tor works perfectly no questions asked
>>106829810Can't believe people still use that pile of shit.
>>106830117>OOBE\BYPASSNROI thought this one has been disabled already.
23H2, still has local bybass, no ai shit, no recall. lock it to that version and enjoy.
>>106830759>Why....>Just....Kill yourself, faggot
>>106829943>delete account this bricks the computer
>>106830117That one is explicitly on the list of methods that will be blocked.
>>106830865cope
>>106829810only homo edition is ever affected by this fuckerybusiness, government, military etc all use local ad often not connected to internet at all or through multiple layers of vpns and thin app virtualization
>>106829943Yes. Last time I installed windows I couldn't do it with an account because in the installer it asked me to solve LITERALLY 40 captcha in a row with a counter. If I got any of them wrong it would fail, but only after I had done all 40 of them. The captcha were also impossible to solve, it wasn't just typing characters or clicking on cars or whatever. It was some esoteric shit. I have to press a random key combination to bring up the terminal to turn off the required internet connection and to disable the required online account creation.
>>106829810>What windowscel gonna do?Use windows 11 and ignore privacy-shizos (aka jeets/pedophiles/trannies) :)
>>106831412This guy knows. People complaining about this are retarded.There's no reason to use 11 Home over 11 Pro when you can buy a legitimate license from a kazhakstani reseller for $5, and Pro will never block making local accounts.
I used windows for 25 years and I am not a programmer or anything like that. Over time I became really resentful with it all.A few months ago I made the switch to a new clean computer with HAP bit disabled Intelaviv and I went for Linux Debian 13 and full luks disk encryption, microphone, webcam, and wifi/bluetooth module removed. Probably still backdoored out the ass but a bit less than window11 telaviv machine
>>106831633Jeets advocate for spying though
>>106831228no, hes right, fuck linux, you got apoEQ on linux? you got musicbee on linux? and these are only examples i personally wont compromise on, no your winamp or foobar shit is just pathetic, I wont use it
>>106831713....ORRRRRRR just use Enterprise LTSC IoT with Massgravel + Local Account and run OOSU++????
>>106829810im on my local right now win11 desu
>>106829847You will but average Joe wont and he will have to create account and accept that all his media and activity will be scanned by feminist, leftist AI looking for wrongthink at all times. Look what is going on in the UK.
>>106831761I don't condone theft
>>106830659>"Beginning 01.01.2026, Fusion 360 doesn't support Windows 10 anymore. Please make sure to upgrade to Windows 11 to be able to continue to use Fusion 360"
>>106831753usecase? what makes you think obscure audio software is a metric?
>>106831843>system wide EQ>obscure audio software
come to think of it what about sonarworks, arc x, ableton, fruity loops, does any of that shit even work on lincucks?
>>106829810Christ. Looks like the strix halo pc I'm getting is getting linux put on it mad fast.
>>106831864>system wide EQeasyeffects?
>>106829858Just make the jump anon. As long as you have half a brain (or can consult an AI), and dont play competitive online games it's just a better experience.My breaking point was earlier this year and while I was mad to go for Arch, it's been solid.
>>106829847Don't you lads bitch about how hard Linux is and that's why you don't use it?And then you suggest this shit?
>>106831893Does it have full parametric EQ? High/low shelf, high/low pass, etc. From what im seeing its a basic 32 band graphic one. I just know that shits gonna be a buggy stuttery mess compared to apoEQ either way.
>>106831933rufus is super easy to use
>>106831969I'd rather jump through hoops due to lack of design rather than malicious design.
Install Windows 10 clean, then upgrade to 11.See, that wasn't that hard.
>>106829810lmao faggotsoft just basically created indirect digital ID
My gaymer brother is now using ubuntu, proton works surprisingly well now, you dont even need to install steam inside wine anymore.
>>106831968yes it doescope hard retarded fag
>>106832050>uh-oh! Youre trying to run a game on wine while using pipewire's EQ profile, error detected, please disable it See? Thats how fragile troonix is
>>106832069any proof this happened? even a screenshot?
>>106832069>GameLOLA manbaby plays games... Shocking
>>106832077it took like 5 seconds of googling anon.
>>106829810>What windowscel gonna do?They'll seethe and moan for a week and in 5 years they'll all be using it, like every single damn windows end of support.Everyone was a win 7 chud and they'd never switch to 10, now they're all 10 chuds and will never switch to 11, in 10 years when 11 gets to end of life they'll all be 11 chuds and they'll never use 12, rinse and repeat.
>why not just upgrade to windows 11?>you can always just disable XXXXXWe told you faggots.
>>106829810>can still click "domain join" during setup>still makes a local account and just says "pretty please make sure you join a domain after first login!"I'd pity Home users, but you only have yourselves to blame.
>>106832116>Everyone was a win 7 chud and they'd never switch to 10No. I was on Windows 7 and I switched to 10 because 10 was actually good (I know, it was popular to hate on it because of preinstalled bloat, but that was uninstallable).
>>106832091You cant even use room treatment software that interfaces with microphones like sonarworks or arc x, pipe down tranny
>>106832131I switched from 7 to 8.1 because 8.1 was actually good.10 was dog shit. Every game performed worse and I don't use Windows for anything else so I immediately downgraded and never looked back.
>>106832141>8.1 because 8.1 was actually good.8 and 8.1 were garbage. What were you smoking?
>>106829810How the fuck do you join a domain, then? Is this only for the home versions?
>>106829810Just use the built-in admin account.
>>106829858I have throw away microcuck account since win 10. Not gonna install troonix anytime soon lol
>>106832131>because 10 was actually goodThat was actually after they fixed OS breaking bugs that needed a complete reinstall and would trigger randomly.Back when it released I tried using it and basically every single day I had to reinstall it because of the cortana bug that would make the OS completely broken and unusable forever.
>>106829810I ragequit the Win11 installer because of this. It was literally the final straw that made me ditch Windows. 33 years old, have been using windows since I was 12.I finally dropped it because they just can't stop making it worse.
>>106832233Cortana wasn't available in my region, and has never run on any of my computers, so I guess I was safe there.
You're a cybercuckold, wearing a little digital chastity cage.
>>106832183>faster boot times than 7>faster load times than 7>better DirectX support than 7 meaning no stuttering>no stuttering compared to Windows 10 1703+ either>used less resources (CPU, RAM) than 7 or 10>real UEFI support>supported disk images natively>supported virtual drives>supported incremental backups like every other OS had for 10+ years>live tiles were cool>a start menu replacement could be installed in seconds>unlike 10, 99.9% of the OS in Desktop Mode was still made for desktops like 7>unlike 10, 99.9% of the OS in Tablet Mode was made for tablets and supported gestures and had better app management 8.1 was fantastic.
>>106832249Linux users you mean?
>>106832198If you're not a company, what do you need to join a domain for?
>>106832198>Is this only for the home versions?It is. Pro/Enterprise versions still have the "Domain Join Instead" button and skips all this bullshit.>>106832261To make a local account.
>>106832107>manually installed pulseaudio requires manual launch to workShocking. Has he tried manually adding pulseaudio -k to his startup scripts?
pulseaudio -k
>>106832274>Has he tried manually adding pulseaudio -k to his startup scripts?You've lost me. If this is what you need just to get your speakers to work on Linux, the year of the Linux desktop will never ever come.
>>106832247Didn't matter if you enabled or disabled it, just by mere fact of being present on the disk would trigger the bug and destroy the OS, I know because I tried disabling it back in the day to no avail.
>>106832274Wtf are you talking about buddy? I produce music, I dont work at troubleshooting computers.
>>106832317no you dont
>>106829858Windows users all know about linux, but for a variety of reasons do not want to use it. For each problem that exists with Microsoft, you find many more in the linux world. Not to even speak of the unavailability of software, recently, you had a GNOME guy rating about having “hitler particles” inside you if you wanted to use Omarchy. These types of mentally ill characters are not a rarity in the *nix world. Windows users will simply find a work around and contort the system to working as it is needed. There are actually good reasons for the Microsoft Account, but for power users the option should always remain to stick with local-only.
>>106832282>>106832317He claims to have "manually installed" pulseaudio. In my understanding, manual installation means from scratch, not from repos providing sane defaults adapted to distro.If it works after "pulseaudio -k" than he definitely fucked up something in his load order. Manually. And he can either automate killing pulseaudio after every boot or investigate how to make it load later.
>>106832334Its over, you lost, take it with dignity and accept its an unprofessional OS for people who dont value their time
>>106829839Sorry troon, you’re not going to groom me into switching to your cult. WSL is as far as I let you get.
>>106832340Damn, thats crazy, but in windows you just hit an .exe and it installs
>>106832116the big reason people switched to win10 over 7 was directx12, and win11 doesnt have an equivilent reason.
>>106832253I liked 8.1 but 10 brings dark mode to explorer otherwise I might have used it still, 10 had major memory leak issues up until 2021 when it was patched somewhat, but yeah 11 offers nothing but cosmetic changes I don't care for and it has fewer useful features that have been cut, it's shit
>>106832374Pulseaudio and PipeWire are both abstraction layers between software that wants to do audio and drivers that actually work with audio devices. Hierarchically it is similar to WASAPI or ASIO etc.Normally, every sane distro has it in its repositories and you just hit a button in app store (or download a .deb or .rpm or whatever your distro uses) and it installs, but the underlying changes to the OS with or without pulseaudio are way more extensive than just adding some end user software or even a driver or service.Also notable detail, he's using Garuda Linux - a literally who literally indian fork of Arch. On a laptop. I would not expect there to be sane defaults even in the repositories and preinstalled software.
>>106829810Stuff like tiny11 still work though?
>>106832253I agree, 8.1 was peak Windows. Too bad nowadays Windows 8.1 is less supported than even Windows 7.
>>106832282you don't have to do any of thisyou don't have to manually install anything other than your desktop environment.>>106832374you wouldn't install your Windows audio abstraction layer from an exe
>>106832645>you wouldn't install your Windows audio abstraction layer from an exeLincucks really need to think this through when apoEQ does it by default
>>106829810Is this true? I just installed windows with a local account
>Fucking hobbyists not even rolling their own WDS+MDTGit gut scrubs
>>106829943That's too much hassle to the point that installing Ubuntu is fucking easier at this point
>>106829943>can't setup computer without internet connection
>>106829909Yes, and? What's the problem? I was making hardware mods on my PS2 before you were ever born.It sounds like the problem *you* have is that *you* are too incompetent to do these things, therefore *you* will suffer. That isn't my problem. It's yours.
>>106830773Nah I'll do whatever I want instead and laugh at your pain and stress from atop my pile of comfortable success.
>>106832374>NOoooooooo>Windows spies on you perpetually this is bad for the MAP community! >Linux respects my freedom, and we don't let NAZI fascist scum with bad opinions use it!>Using linux is like broadcasting a heckin' big bat signal that tells other smart people: I'm smart! I'm one of the good guys.>Open source means every single line has been scrutinized by 8 billion pairs of super hero eyes all to make a wonderful experience with no for me which I'm not required to pay for. Open source? More like super hero sauce!
>>106832781Realer than you know
the whole>WHY DONT YOU USE LINUX??? ITS BETTER FOR YOU!!>nah its too lame and dumb i like stuff that just works>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOU'RE WRONGis topographically analogous to the weight loss argument>WHY DON'T YOU JUST EAT LESS AND MOVE MORE?????>nah i tried that it doesnt work>NO BUT THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!! YOU DIDNT DO IT RIGHT AAAAAAAARGHHHlinuxtards will probably interpret this post the wrong way and think it's justifying moral judgement of their choice over othersrather it's criticism of repeatedly failing to achieve the desired results despite never modifying the approach
>>106832781>what are we... some kind of suicide squad?
>>106829810Use an older windows installer and upgrade later?
So even something as simple as switching back and forth between APOs (audio processing objects) is a major headache in loonix? Thats kinda crazy, we can do this easily since 2012, I think
