>>106829810
inb4 wincel rage

>>106829810
imagine not knowing you can modify the installation media

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>>106829810
They just keep pushing me and pushing me.

>Microsoft: you need internet access to install Windows
>oh you dont have internet? you must be poor. access denied.
BASED BEYOND BELIEF. THIRDIES IN TATTERS

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>>106829847
> 2024: Just use some cheat codes bro!
> 2025: Just roll your own install image bro!
> 2026: Just patch the installer binaries bro!
> 2027: Just mod-chip your motherboard bro!
> ,,,

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Not an issue for piracy fags.

>>106829909
>>106829810

1. create throwaway microsoft account
2. install windows
2. delete account , switch back to local

now was that so hard? well, for you maybe.

ohhh the horror of making a dummy email account ohhh

>>106829943
> i'm too retarded to see the trend

fixed

>>106829909
The humiliation rituals continue to grow

This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.

https://atlasos.net/

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>>106829909
a /g/entleman would enjoy doing this.

a/v/tard however ....

>>106829858
this. I've already got a second system running it fulltime

>>106829810
They'll never get rid of no Microsoft account mode. It's too integral to the is and boomers in the middle of nowhere won't be able to use it. It also has to support it for the use case where you're doing a clean install and there are no drivers for your wifi. Would lock you into setup forever if they didn't support it.

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>>106830016

>>106829810
OOBE\BYPASSNRO

Surely they won't patch in some nag screen. I've already installed the OS.

>>106829909
yes, we'll keep on finding and using workarounds. Problem?

>>106830109
Spoken like a true normalfag

>>106829810
>Upgrading to IoT LTSC 22H2
see you in 2032

>>106829909
What's your point, faggot?
As long as it's worth it, people will find a way to skip it. If it takes more effort compared to the benefits, then and only then it will be the time to find something else. Not even one split second earlier.

>>106829950
This has become harder than you would expect, no one accepts random emails anymore and gmail/hotmail/etc all tend to demand phone numbers.

>>106830308
you dont have to do any of those things when installing any os that isnt windows thoughj

>>106830073
>Would lock you into setup forever if they didn't support it.
You say that but the last laptop I had couldn't cleanly reinstall Windows 11 because it didn't support the WiFi and would blue screen during the installation. I had to disable the WiFi in the BIOS to get Windows to install.

>>106830363
Mind you if that OOB/NOPASSNO or whatever hack didn't allow the creation of a local account, then a reinstall of Windows on this laptop may have been impossible (since it didn't have ethernet and I doubt Windows supports networking over USB like Linux does).

>>106829943
>please enter phone number to create MS account
>can't delete account, a local Account may not be the only account in this computer

>>106829943
>kyc yourself to make account
you forever link all your activity on your machine to your identity. You can't undo that

>>106829847
>Having to use third party tools to SysAdmin your own fucking system because of Microsoft
Grim. Just install Linux at that point.

>>106829810
they will never remove local accounts and force internet connection on enterprise editions
>he doesnt use LTSC
comical

>>106830390
>I doubt Windows supports networking over USB like Linux does).
They do, actually. via WinPXE.

>>106830507
They're trying to. They want folks to have a MS account. But enterprises are balking to where they're slinking back.

Their AD tools want a MS account now, or was trying to. Same shit with Copilot in Wordpad and other bullshit. They're trying to cram their dick into SysAdmins asses and SysAdmins keep punching them in the nuts.

Why would you need to install windows? Just keep using 10 LTSC that you already have installed for another 10 years.
New computer? Clone the disc.
Updootrannies can switch to Linux.

Reminder there was a Linux distro called Jolicloud that required a Facebook account to use.

works on my machine

How long until Microsoft ransomwares all Windows users?
>all your data has been encrypted with bitlocker, to regain access create a Microsoft account and send $400 USD in bitcoin to this wallet

>>106830073
Do you really expect the retarded devjeets who work on Windows 11 to understand that? And Microsoft to give a fuck about people who install Windows by themselves and don't have a wifi driver?

tbf I don't even play modern video games so I could just swap to linux and nothing would change but linux is also pozzed as fuck so what's the point?

And faggots dare to ask
>why do you hate windows 11 so much?

Why are people so asshurt about the mandatory MS account? Just create one, add a local profile and delete the other one. MS will spy on you anyway, no matter your login status

>>106829810
If you really can't use 7, resolve to install 10.
If you really can't use 10, resolve to install Linux.
If you really can't use Linux, resolve to stop using a computer.
If you really needed it for your job, resolve to find another job.
But never give up, never let them win, never use Windows 11.

>>106830759
My computer does not transmit or receive a single bit from the internet unless I explicitly approve it

>>106829810
As long as enterprise customers have any value to microsoft, there will always be at least one method to install latest windows locally and offline. People who call themself journalists can fearmonger all they want but its not going to change anytime soon. It might not be super straightforward to set up, but it will always be possible. A simple workaround like rufus gives you working, unjeeted windows environment, that will be infinitely better than troonix.

>>106830715
They already kinda did with the HW requirements for windows 11. The require you to either directly pay for ESU OR set up windows backup which will most likely take more space than the free tier of onedrive allows, so you are forced to pay anyway. EU called Microsoft out, so no one in EU is gonna be forced to pay, but rest are.
Kinda fucked when you think that there are machines bought on windows 10 era that are incompatible with windows 11 and now you are being blackmailed.

>>106830361
Didn't ask, don't care.
>you want a steak? why don't you eat pizza instead?
That's how grating you sound.

>>106830759
>submit
No. Fuck you.

>>106830314
Protonmail via tor works perfectly no questions asked

>>106829810
Can't believe people still use that pile of shit.

>>106830117
>OOBE\BYPASSNRO
I thought this one has been disabled already.

23H2, still has local bybass, no ai shit, no recall.

lock it to that version and enjoy.

>>106830759
>Why....
>Just....
Kill yourself, faggot

>>106829943
>delete account
this bricks the computer

>>106830117
That one is explicitly on the list of methods that will be blocked.

>>106830865
cope

>>106829810
only homo edition is ever affected by this fuckery
business, government, military etc all use local ad often not connected to internet at all or through multiple layers of vpns and thin app virtualization

>>106829943
Yes. Last time I installed windows I couldn't do it with an account because in the installer it asked me to solve LITERALLY 40 captcha in a row with a counter. If I got any of them wrong it would fail, but only after I had done all 40 of them. The captcha were also impossible to solve, it wasn't just typing characters or clicking on cars or whatever. It was some esoteric shit. I have to press a random key combination to bring up the terminal to turn off the required internet connection and to disable the required online account creation.

>>106829810
>What windowscel gonna do?
Use windows 11 and ignore privacy-shizos (aka jeets/pedophiles/trannies) :)

>>106831412
This guy knows. People complaining about this are retarded.
There's no reason to use 11 Home over 11 Pro when you can buy a legitimate license from a kazhakstani reseller for $5, and Pro will never block making local accounts.

I used windows for 25 years and I am not a programmer or anything like that. Over time I became really resentful with it all.

A few months ago I made the switch to a new clean computer with HAP bit disabled Intelaviv and I went for Linux Debian 13 and full luks disk encryption, microphone, webcam, and wifi/bluetooth module removed.

Probably still backdoored out the ass but a bit less than window11 telaviv machine

>>106831633
Jeets advocate for spying though

>>106831228
no, hes right, fuck linux, you got apoEQ on linux? you got musicbee on linux? and these are only examples i personally wont compromise on, no your winamp or foobar shit is just pathetic, I wont use it

>>106831713
....ORRRRRRR just use Enterprise LTSC IoT with Massgravel + Local Account and run OOSU++????

>>106829810
im on my local right now win11 desu

>>106829847
You will but average Joe wont and he will have to create account and accept that all his media and activity will be scanned by feminist, leftist AI looking for wrongthink at all times. Look what is going on in the UK.

>>106831761
I don't condone theft

>>106830659
>"Beginning 01.01.2026, Fusion 360 doesn't support Windows 10 anymore. Please make sure to upgrade to Windows 11 to be able to continue to use Fusion 360"

>>106831753
usecase? what makes you think obscure audio software is a metric?

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>>106831843
>system wide EQ
>obscure audio software

come to think of it what about sonarworks, arc x, ableton, fruity loops, does any of that shit even work on lincucks?

>>106829810
Christ. Looks like the strix halo pc I'm getting is getting linux put on it mad fast.

>>106831864
>system wide EQ

easyeffects?

>>106829858
Just make the jump anon. As long as you have half a brain (or can consult an AI), and dont play competitive online games it's just a better experience.
My breaking point was earlier this year and while I was mad to go for Arch, it's been solid.

>>106829847
Don't you lads bitch about how hard Linux is and that's why you don't use it?
And then you suggest this shit?

>>106831893
Does it have full parametric EQ? High/low shelf, high/low pass, etc. From what im seeing its a basic 32 band graphic one. I just know that shits gonna be a buggy stuttery mess compared to apoEQ either way.

>>106831933
rufus is super easy to use

>>106831969
I'd rather jump through hoops due to lack of design rather than malicious design.

Install Windows 10 clean, then upgrade to 11.

See, that wasn't that hard.

>>106829810
lmao faggotsoft just basically created indirect digital ID

My gaymer brother is now using ubuntu, proton works surprisingly well now, you dont even need to install steam inside wine anymore.

>>106831968
yes it does
cope hard retarded fag

>>106832050
>uh-oh! Youre trying to run a game on wine while using pipewire's EQ profile, error detected, please disable it
See? Thats how fragile troonix is

>>106832069
any proof this happened? even a screenshot?

>>106832069
>Game
LOL
A manbaby plays games... Shocking

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>>106832077
it took like 5 seconds of googling anon.

>>106829810
>What windowscel gonna do?
They'll seethe and moan for a week and in 5 years they'll all be using it, like every single damn windows end of support.
Everyone was a win 7 chud and they'd never switch to 10, now they're all 10 chuds and will never switch to 11, in 10 years when 11 gets to end of life they'll all be 11 chuds and they'll never use 12, rinse and repeat.

>why not just upgrade to windows 11?
>you can always just disable XXXXX
We told you faggots.

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>>106829810
>can still click "domain join" during setup
>still makes a local account and just says "pretty please make sure you join a domain after first login!"
I'd pity Home users, but you only have yourselves to blame.

>>106832116
>Everyone was a win 7 chud and they'd never switch to 10
No. I was on Windows 7 and I switched to 10 because 10 was actually good (I know, it was popular to hate on it because of preinstalled bloat, but that was uninstallable).

>>106832091
You cant even use room treatment software that interfaces with microphones like sonarworks or arc x, pipe down tranny

>>106832131
I switched from 7 to 8.1 because 8.1 was actually good.
10 was dog shit. Every game performed worse and I don't use Windows for anything else so I immediately downgraded and never looked back.

>>106832141
>8.1 because 8.1 was actually good.
8 and 8.1 were garbage. What were you smoking?

>>106829810
How the fuck do you join a domain, then? Is this only for the home versions?

>>106829810
Just use the built-in admin account.

>>106829858
I have throw away microcuck account since win 10. Not gonna install troonix anytime soon lol

>>106832131
>because 10 was actually good
That was actually after they fixed OS breaking bugs that needed a complete reinstall and would trigger randomly.
Back when it released I tried using it and basically every single day I had to reinstall it because of the cortana bug that would make the OS completely broken and unusable forever.

>>106829810
I ragequit the Win11 installer because of this. It was literally the final straw that made me ditch Windows. 33 years old, have been using windows since I was 12.

I finally dropped it because they just can't stop making it worse.

>>106832233
Cortana wasn't available in my region, and has never run on any of my computers, so I guess I was safe there.

You're a cybercuckold, wearing a little digital chastity cage.

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>>106832183
>faster boot times than 7
>faster load times than 7
>better DirectX support than 7 meaning no stuttering
>no stuttering compared to Windows 10 1703+ either
>used less resources (CPU, RAM) than 7 or 10
>real UEFI support
>supported disk images natively
>supported virtual drives
>supported incremental backups like every other OS had for 10+ years
>live tiles were cool
>a start menu replacement could be installed in seconds
>unlike 10, 99.9% of the OS in Desktop Mode was still made for desktops like 7
>unlike 10, 99.9% of the OS in Tablet Mode was made for tablets and supported gestures and had better app management
8.1 was fantastic.

>>106832249
Linux users you mean?

>>106832198
If you're not a company, what do you need to join a domain for?

>>106832198
>Is this only for the home versions?
It is. Pro/Enterprise versions still have the "Domain Join Instead" button and skips all this bullshit.
>>106832261
To make a local account.

>>106832107
>manually installed pulseaudio requires manual launch to work
Shocking. Has he tried manually adding

pulseaudio -k

to his startup scripts?

>>106832274
>Has he tried manually adding

pulseaudio -k

to his startup scripts?
You've lost me. If this is what you need just to get your speakers to work on Linux, the year of the Linux desktop will never ever come.

>>106832247
Didn't matter if you enabled or disabled it, just by mere fact of being present on the disk would trigger the bug and destroy the OS, I know because I tried disabling it back in the day to no avail.

>>106832274
Wtf are you talking about buddy? I produce music, I dont work at troubleshooting computers.

>>106832317
no you dont

>>106829858
Windows users all know about linux, but for a variety of reasons do not want to use it. For each problem that exists with Microsoft, you find many more in the linux world. Not to even speak of the unavailability of software, recently, you had a GNOME guy rating about having “hitler particles” inside you if you wanted to use Omarchy. These types of mentally ill characters are not a rarity in the *nix world.

Windows users will simply find a work around and contort the system to working as it is needed. There are actually good reasons for the Microsoft Account, but for power users the option should always remain to stick with local-only.

>>106832282
>>106832317
He claims to have "manually installed" pulseaudio. In my understanding, manual installation means from scratch, not from repos providing sane defaults adapted to distro.
If it works after "pulseaudio -k" than he definitely fucked up something in his load order. Manually. And he can either automate killing pulseaudio after every boot or investigate how to make it load later.

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>>106832334
Its over, you lost, take it with dignity and accept its an unprofessional OS for people who dont value their time

>>106829839
Sorry troon, you’re not going to groom me into switching to your cult. WSL is as far as I let you get.

>>106832340
Damn, thats crazy, but in windows you just hit an .exe and it installs

>>106832116
the big reason people switched to win10 over 7 was directx12, and win11 doesnt have an equivilent reason.

>>106832253
I liked 8.1 but 10 brings dark mode to explorer otherwise I might have used it still, 10 had major memory leak issues up until 2021 when it was patched somewhat, but yeah 11 offers nothing but cosmetic changes I don't care for and it has fewer useful features that have been cut, it's shit

>>106832374
Pulseaudio and PipeWire are both abstraction layers between software that wants to do audio and drivers that actually work with audio devices. Hierarchically it is similar to WASAPI or ASIO etc.
Normally, every sane distro has it in its repositories and you just hit a button in app store (or download a .deb or .rpm or whatever your distro uses) and it installs, but the underlying changes to the OS with or without pulseaudio are way more extensive than just adding some end user software or even a driver or service.

Also notable detail, he's using Garuda Linux - a literally who literally indian fork of Arch. On a laptop. I would not expect there to be sane defaults even in the repositories and preinstalled software.

>>106829810
Stuff like tiny11 still work though?

>>106832253
I agree, 8.1 was peak Windows. Too bad nowadays Windows 8.1 is less supported than even Windows 7.

>>106832282
you don't have to do any of this
you don't have to manually install anything other than your desktop environment.
>>106832374
you wouldn't install your Windows audio abstraction layer from an exe

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>>106832645
>you wouldn't install your Windows audio abstraction layer from an exe
Lincucks really need to think this through when apoEQ does it by default

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>>106829810
Is this true? I just installed windows with a local account

>Fucking hobbyists not even rolling their own WDS+MDT
Git gut scrubs

>>106829943
That's too much hassle to the point that installing Ubuntu is fucking easier at this point

>>106829943
>can't setup computer without internet connection

>>106829909
Yes, and? What's the problem? I was making hardware mods on my PS2 before you were ever born.

It sounds like the problem *you* have is that *you* are too incompetent to do these things, therefore *you* will suffer. That isn't my problem. It's yours.

>>106830773
Nah I'll do whatever I want instead and laugh at your pain and stress from atop my pile of comfortable success.

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>>106832374
>NOoooooooo
>Windows spies on you perpetually this is bad for the MAP community!
>Linux respects my freedom, and we don't let NAZI fascist scum with bad opinions use it!
>Using linux is like broadcasting a heckin' big bat signal that tells other smart people: I'm smart! I'm one of the good guys.
>Open source means every single line has been scrutinized by 8 billion pairs of super hero eyes all to make a wonderful experience with no for me which I'm not required to pay for. Open source? More like super hero sauce!

>>106832781
Realer than you know

the whole
>WHY DONT YOU USE LINUX??? ITS BETTER FOR YOU!!
>nah its too lame and dumb i like stuff that just works
>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOU'RE WRONG

is topographically analogous to the weight loss argument
>WHY DON'T YOU JUST EAT LESS AND MOVE MORE?????
>nah i tried that it doesnt work
>NO BUT THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS!! YOU DIDNT DO IT RIGHT AAAAAAAARGHHH

linuxtards will probably interpret this post the wrong way and think it's justifying moral judgement of their choice over others
rather it's criticism of repeatedly failing to achieve the desired results despite never modifying the approach

>>106832781
>what are we... some kind of suicide squad?

>>106829810
Use an older windows installer and upgrade later?

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So even something as simple as switching back and forth between APOs (audio processing objects) is a major headache in loonix? Thats kinda crazy, we can do this easily since 2012, I think

>>106829943
> Delete microshit account
> Computer can't login because the credentials don't work
> Windows throws a fit and blue screens... or black screens now...
TADA!

>>106829950
>ohhh the horror of giving them a blood sample
>ohhh the horror of giving them your first born
>ohhh the horror of showing them a picture of your tiny wang
> ohhh the horror of giving them your drivers license
> ohhh the horror of letting them watch everything you're doing
> ohhh the horror of the computer won't work unless the webcam views me the whole time

STFU you idiot

>>106832974
Yiff in hell furfag

i wish there were an easy way to see the creation date of a hotmail accout. the oldest email i have is from the forced migration to outlook in 2014

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>106833831

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>>106830147
>>106830308
>>106832762
ribbit ribbit

>>106833849
How is >>106830308 wrong? Even if windows had a live cam of a jeet staring at you 24/7 it would still be preferable to lincucks

Can people explain to me what this affects?

Tried it with a new pro install, was able to make a local account no issue. Is this just for retards buying prebuilts who don't instantly reinstall the OS?

>>106833867
kek
And you're right. It's not like binary editing Windows is impossible. They'll just strip and swap the pozzed parts with custom DLLs or whatever.

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>>106833813
>19:24:31
>incel virgin samefags himself every hour to save his dead troll thread from page 10
>again
how shocking and unexpected

why havent you killed yourself yet loser?
do something useful for your mom and fertilize her compost pile
everyone wishes you were dead, especially your mom
how embarrassing it must be for her to have to explain to her friends all the time that her son is still a fat 50 year old incel NEET loser eating all her food and stinking up her basement spending every waking minute of his incel life "owning M$/loonix"
there is no bigger no-life loser on this entire shithole of a site than you, and that's saying a lot
just end your worthless life already, the world will be a better place with you dead

>>106829810
I would love to have Linux on my Surface Pro 7 but the ultraportable camera drivers will likely never be upstreamed. On top of that the pen drivers are also mediocre. The Surface served me very well but at the end of the day it's a locked down piece of shit. Is there any similar laptop with a pen that works well on Linux?

>>106833170
Switching is just as easy, installing one can be complicated. Especially when you intentionally don't use setup.exe and instead just grab a bunch of .dlls, a couple .diffs and a readme.txt with a list of required registry changes, and you try to apply everything in the correct order. But you don't even know English.

>>106829810
Open up cmd like its fucking linux back in 2014 and type in a bunch of commands lmfao

>>106829810
Continue using LTSC IoT 2021 until 2032.
Linux should hopefully be usable by then.

>>106829810
What are they going to do if i already have a local account?

>>106832338
anon, I don't think "using linux will put austrian painter particles in you" is the dissuasion you think it is

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not my problem

>>106829810
LMAO not even Apple does this shit for their babby tier OS.

>>106832253
I honestly didn't have any issues using Win8.1 but I only used it for like a year or so and then Win10 came out and I just did the free upgrade.
It honestly didn't feel that much different from 7 since it didn't install the BS tablet like UI environment. But still that early adoption of Win8 fucked up everyone's expectation of what MS wanted to take Windows to and I do not fault people for bashing Win8/8.1.

>>106831822
Lol
Lmao, even
If ms cared the least you wouldn't even be discussing it because you simply and absolutely wouldn't be able to do it, same as with "pirated" apps...
Truth is not only they're fully aware of the extent of such "theft", they embrace, as it gives them the market share (therefore the value) they would nowhere have without it.
Tl; dr: you're a moron (and a sucker).

>“While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured for use.”
KEKAROONIE