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Previous thread: >>106826592
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>>106838706
first
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no gay sex in this thread this time. i'm watching you.
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I like MX Linux
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>>106839454
The terrorist distro? What makes it special?
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>>106839305
Having gay sex with you rn
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What happens in the irc channel? Might install Irssi or whatever just because I can.
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>>106839577
thats where the jannies congregate to do ERP and other gay shit
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>>106839577
people are just sending illegal files there
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I like when I install Arch Linux on my laptop and I'm like " please Arch let me use my 960M, I beg you" and is like "LMAOOOOO NOO"
I really enjoyed when that happens
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>>106839611
>And it's like
>I really enjoy
Goddamit
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>>106839483
The MEPIS successor
It's Debian Stable Xfce/KDE/Fluxbox but with custom rice and useful features like
- can change boot splash screen via GUI
- zram can be enabled in installer
- system snapshot can be made into installable .iso for easy reproduction
- up to date browser and assorted stuff on top of debian stable
- SystemD optional
- easy system cleanup GUI
- live USB with persistence option
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I thought 50 GB for / was more than enough but I only have 13 GB left - and I'm doing a minimal Arch installation.
Does pip leave its caches somewhere? I installed ComfyUI and it needs venv but that's in my /home partition anyway.
What can I do to clean up this mess?
I literally haven't installed anything, just labwc and few terminal applications.
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>>106839875
pip's cache is in /home somewhere but that's a reasonable theory, a lot of applications leave caches scattered everywhere, pip included

try using filelight or some other disk usage visualizer and look for storage hogs
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>>106839875
check your /var/cache/pacman and clean it up with paccache from the pacman-contrib package
If you have flatpaks installed they will also get installed to /var/lib/flatpak unless you specified the --user flag
Pip does have caches but it shouldnt matter if you didnt use pip as root and is recommended not to.
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>>106839982
Okay I can make more room but thought this would be enough for a while as most of the stuff (LLMs and AI gens, gayming) is happening outside of / anyway
>>106840028
Yeah pacman cache is over 6 GB. That's a start.
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I can't believe how easy it is to set up a scanner on linux, I just installed sane hplip naps2 and ipp-usb and that was it, working 1200 DPI scans. I actually stopped using mine a while back because it was deemed "retired" and they removed the official drivers from the support page, if you ask they just say fuck it use the generic windows built in driver which doesn't work on this model
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>>106839646
Cool. I'll stick with the leaner option of Refracta Linux.
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>>106839875
Install ncdu it's a nice little disk usage analyzer:
ncdu -x /
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>>106840885
Thanks. I pretty much prefer these small things.
imv is great for viewing images.
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>>106840885
>>106840919
btw if you're using ncdu 2.x, it has a threaded option which can be uhhh... nearly instant. Just pass -t6 or however many threads your CPU has.
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why arent there any standardized targz and tarxz installer? i know these are archives but considering theyre so widely used, it would make sense to have an installer for software that comes packaged like this
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>>106841402
>tar xzf
That's an installer
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>>106841402
There is:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2018/tarballs-the-ultimate-container-image-format/
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>>106841422
what i mean is like from the perspective of a new user, why dont (at least major distros) come with something like right click -> install.
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>>106841445
Because distributions push users to managed installations. A tarball is the wild west. You should be installing your software from a package manager that can manage the installation.
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>>106841458
ok never thought about that but at the same time when you look for software, lets say visual studio code the website gives you downloads. so while package managers are the main way of installing software, a lot of devs dont link to their repos or provide commands which i find weird
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>>106841488
They probably naively assume you're a developer so you can figure this out.

A lot of software targeted towards non-devs usually does link to their repos or Flatpak or Snap, etc (VScode is linking to the Snap store but they confusingly give multiple listings where it's not really clear what's what and which you should use and they also don't mention Flathub)
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The nvida drivers broke my audio drivers what the heckies is happening
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>>106841562
the issue is skill and it is an attribute of yours.
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>>106841402
>ese are archives but considering theyre so widely used, it would make sense to have an installer for software that comes packaged like this
it's called gnu make. you read it, build it, and install it into your path.
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>>106841588
Nuuuuuuuuu the Apple guy said it wasn't my fault in the quote about Operating Systems so this is Ubuntu's fault
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I'm the guy with that >>106830324 problem and apparently it was a kernel problem with 6.17 after all. Thought I booted in the lts kernel a few times, but apparently fucked up and didn't. Gonna check if it's distribution, hardware, or whatever specific. Might be an issue with my Lexar NM790, had problems with certain kernels in the past.
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Opensuse default partitioning makes a 2gb swap, is that enough? I don't need hibernate.
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>>106841729
depends on your ram size
if you have more than 16GB, just turn swap off
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>>106841760
>>106841729
Don't disable Swap but consider enabling Swap on ZRAM.

As for whether or not it's enough that depends entirely on your workload. Swap usage will vary person to person, OpenSUSE is probably just assuming that 2 GB will be fine and they're probably right for basic workloads. If you start compiling lots of software and using lots of tmpfs, etc, then you might need more but again, it's highly variable, it depends what you're doing with the system.

You can tweak Swap at any time if you ever need more.
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>>106841787
so do I have swap and zram together or is it one or the other?
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trying to install arch, on windows laptop (dual boot). problem is my esp is pretty small, 260mb. I need C and / to be encrypted at the end, it's a work laptop. would the following work?
>partition C, create two new partitions for /boot and separately /
>grub in esp, next to windows bootloader I guess
>kernel, initramfs, grub config in /boot
>esp mounted to /boot/efi
>/ encrypted with LUKS, C with bitlocker
am I missing anything? will use a swap file not partition, there will already be 6 partitions by the end as it stands (esp, C, /, /boot, windows recovery, and some bullshit 16mb empty partition that kills windows if I delete it). does /boot partition need to be fat32 since the esp is?
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>>106841836
You can use both (ZRAM takes priority)
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>>106841841
got it, thanks.
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>>106841836
don't use zram with a real swap, you can't evict
2g is enough swap, use zswap, it's probably on by default.
zram is for devices that have incredibly slow disks or no appropriate swap disk with known memory usage.
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>>106841488
ooo that reminds me, i've been using flatpaks for the longest time and had forgotten about appimage. Tested out helium browser and their recommended linux installer was with appimage. I remember appimage manager, it wasn't in the search, so I point it to the github repo with am -e --user https://github.com/user/project appname keyword
>picrel
apparently vscode does appears in the search, i cant attest to the validity of these packages, guess that could work? I should test appimages more
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>finally update and reboot computer after nearly two months
>see
Unable to resume from device '/dev/disk/by-uuid/[swap partition]' (8:2) offset 0, continuing boot process
during startup
>only search result says it's harmless https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2263967
>I would have times during my last uptime when lots of swap space would be used and even maxed out temporarily
from fstab file
swap    defaults,noatime 0 0

from 'swapon -s'
Filename                Type        Size        Used        Priority
/dev/sda2 partition 9227464 9252 -2


Should I be concerned about it?
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I've fucked around enough, Debian-sama. It's time to settle down.
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>>106842073
the message is there if your swap partition contained the dump for hibernation. since you didn't hibernate it doesn't find the dump to resume from.
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>>106842084
same but nixos. the pinnacle of linux.
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for me? it's cachyos
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>>106842147
Is it really? Seems like it's a package manager just like any other distro.
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>>106842194
for me? it's arch (i'm really paranoid about the custom packages being unstable so i just stick with arch for now)
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Does the GTK file chooser have thumbnail views yet? literally the only thing keeping my dad from using linux. I had him switch over like 10 years ago and he loved it, but as someone who lists on eBay for a living, he couldn't make it work without thumbnails in the file picker. Asinine that this has been missing for the better part of 20 fucking years
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>>106842422
it does for image files but not videos
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>>106842460
Mine has video thumbnails
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>>106842490
in the file picker?
try uploading a webbum to 4chan it wont have a thumbnail
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>>106842422
yes, my parents were only complaining how their word excel files had no previews in nautilus
>>106842490
ye but takes a while to load if you have a lot, well at least on this machine
>>106842497
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>>106842567
>>106842490
>>106842460
interesting, thanks. might be time to give it another go
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>>106842567
idk doesnt work
guess im retarded
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how is gamedev on linux? specifically, does anyone here have experience with gamemaker on linux? i have my workflow set up windows 11 but i'm sick of microsoft's shit. a bit worried about switching over, though
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>>106842788
>worried about switching over
do you know how many times people post this in this thread? stop being a whiny bitch
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>>106842788
You're a developer, you're already smarter than the average human. Just make the switch already and yes, some of your workflow may not work exactly the same but you are a creative being that can adapt or find a different workflow.
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>>106842827
>Friendly GNU/Linux thread
>beginner posts
>it's not friendly
>another windows user successfully not converted
Go fuck yourself idiot, you are the problem
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>>106842958
Enjoy being an irrelevant platform for pedophiles and contrarians forever, I guess.
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>>106842972
no one wants to hold your hand. just install it or put it in a vm. what kind of response were you even looking for? fucking zoomers i swear to god.
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>>106842194
For me its arch with cachyos repos
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How can I get the
>command not found, but you can install it with
>snap install x
>flatpak install x
>dnf install x
Like in termux and zorin?
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>>106838706
ALRIGHTY SO.
Im on gentoo, pretty fresh install. I got dnscrypt working, on port 53. Now i want to use unbound. Unbound needs to be on port 53, so i put dnscrypt on port 5353 (also tried port 40) and i told unbound, that lil bitch, to forward to dnscrypt 127.0.0.1@5353 and put unbound on port 53. Listenadress of dnscrypt is also 127.0.0.1:5353

so dnscrypt is on port 5353 and unbound on port 53. And it doesnt work. When i put it in this way, even unbound service doesnt start when dnscrypt is already running, and crashed when i start dnscrypt.

But when I put unbound on port 40, and dnscrypt on 53 it works. because im only using dnscrypt and not unbound. pls halp. those r my firwall rules

To Action From
-- ------ ----
Anywhere ALLOW 192.168.0.0/24
5353 on lo ALLOW 127.0.0.1

127.0.0.1 5353 ALLOW OUT Anywhere on lo
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>>106843203
The program which does that is usually known as a command-not-found handler; try searching that plus your distro.

As an example, these are the instructions for Arch:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Pkgfile#Command_not_found
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NAME        MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda 8:0 0 238.5G 0 disk (unused)
sdb 8:16 0 119.2G 0 disk /
sdc 8:32 0 7.3T 0 disk (backup)
sdd 8:48 0 7.3T 0 disk /media
nvme0n1 259:0 0 931.5G 0 disk (unused)
nvme1n1 259:5 0 1.8T 0 disk /f (steam games, fast access)

I currently have a messy collection of disks. How would you lay it out? its a media server running jellyfin also running a few docker images.
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>>106843371
llvm them all together so it's one big disk, then drop it off the side of your house so you lose all your data.
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My Windows fatigue has reached critical mass and I refuse to switch to the React Native + Palantir Durgasoft 11 operating system. My next laptop purchase will be one that I want to work well with Linux. I'm looking for something like the Surface Pro that has a good pen for drawing and a stand so I can use the keyboard at the same time. A custom kernel has been developed for the Surface but at least for the 7 it's still too dysfunctional to be usable--the cameras outright don't work and the drivers will never be upstreamed, and the pen support is extremely lacking. It's probably too niche for such a set of features but I'd like to know if there are any good alternatives. What really shocked me about running Linux on a laptop was how little heat dissipation compared to Windows, I never heard my fans run on Linux but regularly on Windows even with just a browser tab playing videos.
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>>106843452
llvm is a compiler library
lvm is the logical volume manager
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I'm gonna buy a 2019 16" i9 macbook pro and install GNU Linux in it; convince me not to
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I copied the Steam Deck and added a "Add to Steam, right click context menu. Unfortunately, I have to restart Steam to see the newly added games while on Steam Deck I don't need a restart. *shrugs*
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Looking for a KDE theme that
- supports transparency
- has a titlebar that blends in with the window "body".
- can look good against dark or light colors behind it
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>>106842958
>Stop trying to convert normies retard, we are full.
Yeah, that attitude'll help Linux get more of a foothold

What is it with you people and fretting over "normies" encroaching on Their Thing?
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>reflector is being run every day even though it is set to once a week
>reflector keeps selecting an outdated mirror which for some reason is listed as 100.0% completion with a very good score on Mirror Status
>I'm done. If reflector and Mirror Status can't be trusted, adding it to exclusion just fixes that but other mirrors can't be trusted
>Sit down
>Find https mirrors with sync delays below an hour in my country run by major companies or unis that support ipv4 and ipv6
>Use reflector inclusions to find the two fastest ones from different companies or unis
>Find a tier 1 mirror for my country
>Completely disable reflector
>Use the 2 fastest mirrors with the tier 1 below them as my mirrorlist
Jesus fucking chirst I shouldn't have had to do that but now I'll always have fast speeds from trusted mirrors that are unlikely to ever go down.
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I just learned about
(sudo) findmnt --verify --verbose
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Linux virgin here
Is popos good? What does g think of it?
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>>106844929
It's fine. It's basically just a tweaked Ubuntu with its own unique DE which a lot of people seem to like. Focused around things like having fully working NVIDIA drivers out of the box and the like. You'll probably have a good time with it.
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Is this normal? Why is OpenSUSE running the installer on Firefox?
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>>106844949
That's a bit pajeetlicious
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>>106844949
Because it's a web installer frontend. You can just use the CLI instead if you're so inclined.
The new Fedora installer does the same.
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>>106844955
It does seem unprofessional. You shouldn't be able to just bring up the Firefox decorations unless running in some kind of debug mode. Makes it look very slapped up last minute.

>>106844978
I don't recall Firefox showing up when I moved the cursor to the top of the screen on Fedora's installer. Maybe it runs in Firefox but I had no awareness of it.

Of all the installers, Debian's non-graphical is by far the easiest to use.
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>>106844929
I wouldn't use it on an older system. It looks good out of the box.
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tell me how the fuck do i install userscripts into gnome web i need to 4chan xt
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What's the best lightweight easy to maintain distro for a Chromebook? It's got 15GB of storage (ish), 1.8GB of RAM, and a Celeron N2840. Nothing Arch based because I'm not learning that cancer. Debian with xfce I guess?
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>>106844978
>Because it's a web installer frontend.
why would anybody do this?
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>>106845112
Debian Xfce might be okay. If that's still too heavy, install crunch bang++
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>>106845143
>>106845143
>why would anybody do this?
Allows for remote installs over network, automation and configuration by editing a .json, and the old Yast installer is a confusing pos

https://agama-project.github.io/
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>>106840135

using document scanning program it has like crop and rotate and save either jpg or png
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>>106841729

I forgot swap partition mint xfce 16GB mem works just fine
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>>106842073

you set it to halt then flipped power switch?
is okay just load os from usual boot drive
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>>106844949

maybe sus runs leitz office squid for maids
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>>106845112

puppylinux
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Is anyone else experiencing issues with cuckflare captchas on Firefox right now? I'm able to pass them on Chrome which is not something I enjoy using. I didn't know until now that the scribd pdf downloader site I use has ads with a girl squirting all over the place while a guy is jacking off.
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Happy with my arch install, next step vidya:
I don't play that many new games and regardless I prefer to make my own bash scripts to set up everything (eg. possible dxvk environment variables and paths to wine and wine tricks etc). I did a quick test with wine-staging and dxvk, Mechwarrior 5 Mercs (UE4) runs pretty good out of the box.
Question: I despise Valve and hate the fact steam has consumed pc gaming. I escaped windows to avoid always online DRMs. So, can I use Proton without Steam? I understand Steam client can still be useful for controller support but I'd like to refrain from installing it at all.
Most games I play are using Goldberg and are pirated anyway. Those games what I buy always have some form of required online functionality.
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How can I use wireplumber config file to set log error level? I'm tired of
wpctl set-log-level E
.
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>>106845488

why would you care such things wireplumber is a bit like pavucontrol? but whichever works on your machine is current thing
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>>106845555
I want to get rid of inane wp-proc-utils journal spam. Nice quads, checked.
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I've never used Linux+GNU before, is there a actual difference between KDE or Gnome?
Google basically says kde for gaming/customization and gnome for beginners like me but is this a 0.1% difference or a real difference for gaming.
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>>106842567
>>106842422
>waits ten years (and counting) for thumbnails in GNOME
>KDE has always had them
If this condition has a name, it escapes me.
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>>106845839
Ignore my question here, thanks to >>106845844
I am going with KDE
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>>106844949
>>106844978
the actual fucking state of rpm-land
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>>106845844
>>KDE has always had them
apparently not according to this >>106842675
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How can I exclude a sub folder in a directory that is being backup by timeshift?

Ive added the sub folder to exclusion. But it gets backed up anyway.
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>>106845914
That's a misconfigured distro
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>>106845914
Never had such issues on Kubuntu, you can get the live CD and test for yourself.
https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
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>>106843877
Breeze
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>>106834035
pretty sure its just a joystick
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I've just installed Bazzite blind after many years of windows.
All I can do is right click and basically open settings or open the terminal. I got into Firefox by opening the terminal and opening a link but that should not be the correct way. I am getting places by doing retarded things like taking screenshots.

How do you normally open programs or even see a list of them? Like a start menu in windows.
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>>106846563
You are missing the usual taskbar. Maybe it is on a hidden monitor? However go to Enter Edit Mode and on the top left add a standard bar. Then go from there.
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fish shell is generally great but holy shit globbing not working as standard is so fucking annoying
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>>106846606
Yeah, that's it. Thanks.
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>setup labwc, spend couple of days tweaking it (minimal setup)
>games flicker and have strange input lag regardless of enabling/disabling tearing via labwc config
>test hyprland
>works flawlessly
Thing, hyprland takes more ram and I already have a pretty minimal setup, just floating windows and a background.
I guess it is what it is - Welcome To Tinker Tranny World
Linux is for tinker trannies.
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arch
btrfs
sway
ghostty
fish
htop
yazi (but trying out broot because yazi is kinda ass sometimes, might also go back to nnn)

need to get into topbars and app launchers next
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how the fuck do i force zen to open thunar and not dolphin? i changed xdg mime and added entires to mimelist and changed gtk shit in .profile and its still opening that retarded dolphin in light mode? im on arch and decided to install sway on top of KDE "just in case being too retarded to do something in CLI" and now its a pain in the ass. should i do a fresh install of arch and just go with sway from the beginning?

>>106846681
this is my topbar in sway. thats the default one and it takes stdout from shell scripts, it also shows currently playing/paused musing. no need to fuck with waybar
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>>106846681
rofi on wayland is hit or miss depending on WM but I'd try that first.
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>>106846692
>this is my topbar in sway. thats the default one and it takes stdout from shell scripts, it also shows currently playing/paused musing. no need to fuck with waybar
neat. i also prefer built-in versions of things if they're adequate. can you post the config?
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>>106846563
My guess is your desktop shell is crashing due to Nvidia
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>>106846699
https://pastebin.com/Bb1TLPEj
here, the music shows up on the left and tray icons on the right
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>>106846763
thanks fren
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>>106846621
Non-Posix POS
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>>106846659
dunno if it's because of Waylel and LabWC, or just LabWC alone, but I had to bind
<action name="Reconfigure" />
to refresh output settings after every single tiling action as well as after making shit fullscreen, otherwise it'd hallucinate your screen resolution and jack up usage
if fullscreening is where it's fucking itself up, you could also try windowing stuff and using its internal
<action name="ToggleFullscreen" />
fullscreen
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>>106846811
>MUH POOSIX
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>>106842245
Its gentoo but more bloated and everything is done in a config file.
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>>106846820
>Disliking standards and codes
Tell me you're brown without telling me you're brown.
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So far Linux has made me feel crazy followed by annoyed at basic customisation. Atleast the options are there instead of slowly getting removed.
>>106846718
I just spent half an hour making the start menu, it should be ok now. Next up is waydroid installation.
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>>106843252
Whats the point of dnscrypt when unbound can already do it?
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>>106843837
How did you do that?
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>>106846840
niggers like you need a standard to show you how to put on your pants each morning, weak cucks.
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>>106845488
You could probably create a drop-in for the systemd user service file to add the wpctl command as an ExecStartPost= command
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>>106846843
If you are on Nvidia you will not get 3D acceleration in Waydroid btw.
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>>106846563
Bazzite is a shitty meme distro that nobody uses except one deranged shill whos trying to sabotage the first time linux desktop experience
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>>106846818
Hmm, might try that.
I already have toggle fullscreen action implemented.
I would like to use one lightweight environment for everything but I guess I can use hyprland for gaming and labwc for the heavy work stuff what will eat all my memory. I'll see.
It's always like this. Good thing about this is the fact that it's possible to configure both hyprland and labwc to behave in 1:1 identical fashion so that's not an issue. eg. keyboard bindings and stuff.
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>>106846681
>ghostty
Why should i use this over alacritty, foot, kitty?
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>>106846843
>waydroid installation.
If you're on Bazzite all you need to do is run "ujust setup-waydroid". They have a bunch of convenience scripts already set up for you.
But nVidia doesn't have proper hardware acceleration on Waydroid. So it won't run smoothly. If you really need Waydroid then your only option is to wait for nVidia to fix their drivers, or to buy AMD.

The panel issue is very odd. Make sure you run "ujust update" in your terminal, or click on the "System Update" application in your menu. An update might fix some of your problems.

And ignore retards like these >>106846901
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>>106846907
better quality basically. i got deepseek to do a comparison and it shows how the code standard is just a lot better. it just feels nice.
also i actually did have problems getting both foot and kitty to work on my setup because the arch (official) packages were ass. ghostty justwerk(tm)ed.
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>>106846927
nvidia driver situation is a disgrace to humanity.
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>>106845438
Yeah, get lutris
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>>106845248
Nope, probably out of date browser or an extension causing that.
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>>106845112
Only thing you have to know is how to connect the wifi, which you can learn from the wiki. Do arch with lxqt, or lubuntu, or antix
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>>106846967
The company is too busy making money on GPUs used for AI, crypto and dedicated OEM devices. Your average desktop user or gamer is almost irrelevant, especially if it's a Linux user.
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What the hell is going on with Debian wiki and packages?
I want to check certain packages but
https://packages.debian.org/stable/
errors out:
>Error 503 first byte timeout

Is there some major happening with the Debian wiki and website that I'm unaware of?
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>>106846933
I wouldnt trust any AI to give a proper comparison of anything. And code standards being better or not have no value if the software is slow or crap.
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>>106846927
>bazzite shill calling anyone a retard
Pottery
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>>106847054
This is an error from their cache server. Most likely one or more of the internal backends is down right now or maybe they're migrating something or performing maintenance, etc.
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Does picrel have good Linux support? If not, what is the best possible new laptop I could get for $599 or lower?
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>>106845164
This sounds like a good idea but its going to be a security nightmare if enabled by default
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>>106847108
idgaf what you think
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>>106847124
>>106847054
It seems to be back up again now.
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>>106847143
Lenovo laptops are certified by Canonical, which means any Linux can install on them fine.
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>>106847143
Most stuff from Lenovo will work fine (apart from their ARM laptops, buyer beware with those).
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>>106847147
But you care what a soulless AI thinks?
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>>106847154
Only certain ones though (whatever their enterprise line is). Some of their laptops are shit show but anything with Intel hardware is going to be somewhat okay.
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>>106847143
You might be better off looking for a second hand laptop on ebay
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>>106847160
I'd still say that if it's a Lenovo PC then you'll most likely to be able to install Linux on it, just like with Dell or HP.
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>>106847157
yeah. its smarter than most anons. idgaf if this goes against the faggot luddite narrative here but AIs have got me way further in my tech journey than I would have if i asked here or googled or went on stackoverflow.
it doesn't matter what people think, it matters that the answers it gives you work.
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>>106847175
Yeah, but their hardware choices will dictate how well it will run. You can install Linux on practically anything really if you know what you're doing.

Standard Intel/AMD hardware, ideally no NVIDIA and a wireless chipset from Intel or Qualcomm and you'll probably have a fun time.
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>>106847176
AI gives you the answer you want to hear but it might not be the correct answer. I've asked AI questions and howtos about programming related stuff and when you tell it that it gave you the wrong answer it'll keep looping the same two or three answers even if none of them are correct.
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>>106847195
>but it might not be the correct answer.
it literally works
not sure you comprehend how much this matters
esp compared to the retarded levels of "help" i typically get here
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>>106847143
I know someone who got a thinkpad e14 gen 4 or 5 like for the same price. Has been working for him with fedora and opensuse, oh his might've been certified refurb but still
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>>106847176
It's just telling you your inherent biases in this case though. Why specifically does ghostty have better code quality than say Alacritty? What metrics is it using to decide that?
If you go by lines of code, for example, Ghostty has a whopping 241644 lines of code (according to cloc), compared with Alacritty's modest 31074 lines of code.
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>>106847226
My guess is that the ai scraped a bunch of stuff where ghosttty is mentioned as having better code quality from one or two sources like the github page and there was nothing else to counter the statement about code quality
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>>106847213
An AI that is comparing stuff based on it being better code quality when thats subjective is not working properly
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>>106847238
That would be me guess to, that's why it's important to probe these things sometimes and ask it a bunch of follow up questions to determine if it's really bullshitting or not.

AI is really good at telling you what you want to hear (regardless of whether or not there's any truth or objectivity to it).
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>>106847143
I imagine any AMD based laptop.
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>>106847148
Nope, it still times out randomly when I try to view specific packages or their file lists, for example: https://packages.debian.org/trixie/all/composer/filelist
This timeout has been going for few days now.
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>>106846870
Ok, Ranjeed
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>>106847146
How so?
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>>106847245
its hardly subjective, it has way more data availibility than you. and the answer it gave in this case (ghostty) works awesome.

>>106847414
what a strange cope. so people using AI are ranjeets now. cool.
pajeets might just make it after all. and oinks like you will get left behind.
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>>106847435
>what a strange cope. so people using AI are ranjeets now. cool.
>pajeets might just make it after all. and oinks like you will get left behind.
The post I quoted was about fish and its nonconformity to POSIX.
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>>106847143
Check Canonical's certification register. They usually handle the cheap shit. Buying used vendor certified hardware might be an option.

>>106847364
Your imagination sucks.
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>>106843685
so you knew what i meant and still decided to correct my double key press? sounds like you're a faggot who is annoying to be around.
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>>106847431
You wouldnt want the webserver installer enabled by default if you're on an unsafe network.
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>>106847120
Who are you even talking to
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>>106847645
Look at the URL, the web server is running on localhost. If they bind it to 0.0.0.0 and/or [::], then that becomes an issue but if someone can compromise your localhost then you're already fucked.
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>>106847935
Although there could still be a good reason to run it on all interfaces if you're on a trusted network and want to automate the install. Ideally they'd have some kernel/bootloader parameter to control this.
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>>106847935
running the server under localhost defeats the purpose of remote install
unless there's some tunneling involved, i guess
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>>106848081
If the live desktop edition iso is running this though then there's no reason to have the remote install enabled is what I meant. Running it on localhost won't pose any security issues and you can make the web server's bind interface configurable via a boot argument that's easy to inject if somebody wants that for some reason.
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>>106846017
damn you were right
i had to rebuild the thumbnail cache
also figured out how to get firefox to use the KDE filepicker instead of GTK
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What Linux file manager is 1:1 with Windows Explorer? for example Dolphin is not like Explorer at all. Dolphin is a convoluted baroque mess.
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Been on Linux long enough to get to the latest new release of my distro. How do I upgrade Kubuntu to the new release? Do I have to use a USB drive and set everything up again?
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i lost a command i used to make my audio output into my input, bsically a virtual microphone. anyone it could be done with the core utilities that come with linux
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>>106848410
None of them. If you don't like Dolphin then you can try Cinnamon's Nemo file manager or Ukui's Peony file manager.
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>>106848410
Nemo/Caja come pretty close
can't remember what dependencies are required for thumbnail generation, but the default maximum filesize limit is something tiny like 1MB
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any good terminal based torrent client so i can ssh into from another pc?
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>>106847935
Whats the point of the web server if its not supposed to be used for remote installations? They could've just rewritten it in a better frontend than using a web server + firefox
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>>106848555
why not run a transmission webserver? this is running on a shitty rpi3
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>>106848555
Deluge comes with one and there's stig for transmission
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>>106848486
What you're looking for is called a loopback device
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>>106848592
i dont care what it's called it was just a command that came with base arch that created a virtual microphone from my audio output
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>>106848691
if you don't care to learn then i don't care to help you.
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>>106848491
>>106848541
I'll check them out. Dolphin/Thunar (thunar is a-okay too) and others are not that bad but there's always something off about them.
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>>106848773
You don't need to reply on my behalf.
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>>106841692
I fixed the audio problem by uninstalling nvida audio and using my native supremefx drivers with pipewrite

BUT NOW KDE IS FUGGING BREAKING
XRUXUFXUFXUFXUDXYDLZKTWZTEKZSTKZSTLZOST?TKSZSTZTKS?TS

I HATE YOU ALL
I HATE YOU LINUS TORVOLAIDS
I HATE YOU UBUNTU
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>>106849138
take your meds
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>>106849138
source on the BSC?
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>>106849138
Linux was better in 1998 than what it is now. I was in University of Helsinki back then, and one of the main CS dept. rooms had a lone teal SGI Indigo plus multitude of Linux boxes which all had MWM (motif window manager) desktop running if I recall properly. Better times.
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>>106838706
How hard is it to install Arch Linux as a beginner to Linux and computer science? Should I install Arch or Artix?
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>>106849546
well you either take the easy route (archinstall) or the normal route of doing it yourself.. theres enough guides and vids out there to help with either way..
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>>106849546
Install Manjaro. It's basically Arch that's easy to install, but it's broken enough to force you to learn how Linux works.
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I'm on Mint 21.3 Virginia and I *really* don't want to go play the lottery and try upgrading to a newer version of Mint just to get a kernel newer than 6.8, is there a way to force newer Mesa drivers than what my kernel comes with? (23.2.1)
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>>106849703
Mesa doesnt come from the kernel and isnt a driver
As for your question. You can try upgrading the ubuntu repos to whatever the codename for 25.04 or 25.10 is but something might break.
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>>106849575
Does archinstall respect my privacy and the FOSS philosophy?
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>>106849703
https://launchpad.net/~kisak/+archive/ubuntu/kisak-mesa
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>>106849787
It is an installer. It doesn't give a fuck about you. It installs your operating system.
This isn't Windows.
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>>106849815
Of course I know that, I wanted to know if it installs any problematic software in terms of privacy, like Google Chrome and all that spyware shit.
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Dreaming of day when libei gets incorporated into base wayland
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>>106849728
Alright thanks, so Mesa is not a driver, amdgpu is the actual open-source GPU driver, but Mesa is some higher level implementation? I'm just a code monkey, I slept through the actual technical classes.
Still, upgrading Mesa is said to be a good fix for any performance issues with AMD on Linux.
>>106849796
I tried adding this PPA, it seems it's not compatible with my version of Mint and the Ubuntu base and I won't get any packages from it. Couldn't I build it from source, or does anyone have experience with the oibaf PPA? That one directly pulls the builds from the mesa git.
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>>106849900
nta but mesa is an opensource implementation of 3d libs like opengl, egl and so on, it also has specific implementations for actual hardware that talks to the kernel driver.

just fyi: on windows each gpu driver ships their own opengl, egl, vulkan implementation, while mesa ships for all
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>>106849900
Mesa is just a graphics library and provides the stuff like opengl and vulkan.
You should probably just do the upgrade to the newer mint instead of trying to avoid it
I remember there's some tools for managing kernel versions on ubuntu.
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>>106849933
Well that's handy, an update to Mesa is an update to all of them then.
>>106850009
>You should probably just do the upgrade to the newer mint instead of trying to avoid it
Probably, I already bit the bullet a few years back when I desperately needed new C libraries just to run basic stuff.
But last time I did, a bunch of stuff in xfce broke, and updating made it (unsuccessfully) change from pulseaudio to pipewire and I had to spend the entire afternoon fixing it. I'm scared I run the upgrade and I'll find myself with a broken Wayland installation instead of X11 and a bunch of Rust in my kernel.
>I remember there's some tools for managing kernel versions on ubuntu.
Yeah there is, also on Mint as well, on the Update manager, which is mostly just a front-end for apt. It's a godsend because I used to somehow break apt often when I used it manually.
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>>106848555
rtorrent
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>>106849507
Peak early Linux was 2001 when it finally got real filesystems. Loki was still doing native game ports and nVidia/ALSA hadn't ruined drivers for the next decade yet.

Everything is better now though. To the point that I know it can't last.
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How do I git gud at Linux? It seems like every time something breaks or doesn't work the way I want (which is frequent), I end up scouring Google for links to Reddit or some forum where someone has cooked up a flavor of black magic I barely understand in the terminal and I have to follow along hoping I don't do the *nix equivalent of deleting System32. What's the fastest way to feel competent again, is there something digestible I should read?
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>>106848470
Back up your important /home folders, then do the upgrade
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>>106850186
1. Don't use obscure shit or distros where breaking is part of the experience (like all rolling releases) if you don't want to spend time fixing stuff
2. Find a DE and distro combo that suits your needs best and stay with that
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>>106850186
understand that all linux problems are self inflicted.
if you are facing a problem that you cant be bothered to solve, you're using the wrong distro or doing a thing you're not supposed to.
otherwise, doing what you are doing is how you get competent
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Is there much reason for me to engage with and learn how to use libvirtd if I just use qemu to spin up personal local VMs and such?
Would it make my life easier?
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>>106850232
I'm running Debian and I think I'll stick to it, I knew well enough to avoid picking up anything obscure at least. I'm talking about stuff that's broken out of the box and not related to updates, too. For example, last night I installed Plex (leave me alone, it's familiar and my old TV has an app for it already) and I had to get instructions to change the user it ran under because for some reason it made its own so my media player couldn't access my media. There's no chance I would've diagnosed or fixed that on my own.

>>106850299
>doing what you are doing is how you get competent
Balls. I guess I'll at least bone up on some Bash commands, that has to be useful.
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>>106850334
yeah
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>>106846985
and then have to deal with a distro that puts kernels in the EFI partition on a 16GB eMMC chip? No thank you, even a 300MB ESP was pushing it. To say nothing of Arch using like, 3 package managers because everybody involved in developing Arch is too autistic to agree on just using one.
Or using switches instead of verbs because they think it's still 1985 and that the amount of text used matters.
"ah yes pacman -Sn0rb makes perfect sense"
meanwhile literally every other package manager is just programname verb, eg apt update or dnf update or zypper update
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>>106850061
Mint usually tells you to make a backup with timeshift before doing an upgrade so you could always just restore your backup with timeshift if the upgrade goes badly again.
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>>106850334
the qemu interface is kind of a pain, spinning up certain hardware can take a bit of searching to get set up the machine correctly. i spent at least a day trying to get a qemu machine for a yocto image i built for a riscv core working correctly.

libvirt/virsh is stupid simple of x86_64 platforms. just make sure to enable networking and verify it set up your bridge interface. if you have any problems it's probably your firewall ignoring the rules libvirt installed.
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>>106850362
>>106850459
Yeah for bare qemu I just created some script a while ago I copy/pasted from the docs and other sources to create and start a basic qemu disk and vm that got me through most of my needs. But if you asked me to do it from memory, or for different architecture or anything I wouldn't be able to.
Thanks. I'll take a closer look at libvirt.
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>>106850500
i used this guys walk through a few years ago. he seems to have dropped off the internet but it should still work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfNKpT2jo7U
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>>106850186
Well, if you can solve your problems by googling then you're already better than 90% of linux noobs. Still, if you want to actually understand how those commands work then you need to learn how to use the basic GNU utilities.
Go learn the basics of bash, piping commands, xargs, etc...
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>>106850459
>libvirt/virsh is stupid simple of x86_64 platforms
Yeah this is the only catch. If you use qemu as an emulator, invocation gets fuckywucky and you don't want any extra layers of confusion on top of which seemingly equivalent command line switches actually plug in the piece of code you want.
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>>106850557
I don't quite understand your comment. Do you mean libvirt/virsh has the disadvantage of adding confusion, or that qemu is not consistent in its switches across platform types and that libvirt helps with that?
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>>106850361
>>106850361
>I'm running Debian and I think I'll stick to it, I knew well enough to avoid picking up anything obscure at least. I'm talking about stuff that's broken out of the box and not related to updates, too. For example, last night I installed Plex (leave me alone, it's familiar and my old TV has an app for it already) and I had to get instructions to change the user it ran under because for some reason it made its own so my media player couldn't access my media. There's no chance I would've diagnosed or fixed that on my own.
Install the Flatpak next time. That avoids such pitfalls
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>used llm to get a general guide of how to set up btrfs snapshots on arch with timeshift
>it mixed up snapper and timeshift and now I have a hybrid setup that works with neither
I'll figure it out, rtfm people
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>>106850580
just use libvirt/virsh/virtmanager if you want to emulate desktop images. doing anything with embedded stuff is best done directly with qemu.
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>>106850630
whats up with this retarded take of asking llms everything? ask some very specific stuff, I normally request to build some skeleton for my projects but that's mostly it

in the end you may end up in a worse state
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>>106850656
Modern religion
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What browser is everyone using in current year? Getting tired of google fucking with my extensions
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>>106838706
which linux distro/de should i put on my moms thinkpad? i heard of zorin but dk if its a meme. shes not tech savvy at all and it needs to just werk, easy to use and best similar ui to win 10. use case will just be some pdf viewing and office stuff
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>>106850686
just firefox, i ditched chrome for the same reasons as you
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>>106850686
Never stopped using Firefox. It's far from perfect, and Mozilla are shitheads.
But at least it is not Jewgle. And noscript+ublock are a nice hazmat suit for protection against the "modern web".
> open website
> 28 script sources blocked from loading
> whitelist 1/23 (the main site)
> works flawlessly
I also regularly use nyxt for casual browsing of sites actually worth visiting and reading.
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>>106850656
Honestly I was lazy, didn't bother reading through the btrfs docs. Luckily it wasn't that bad, the partitions are fine, subvolumes are fine, it just mixed up the default /timeshift dir with /.snapshots and that forced timeshift to save everything in /run/timeshift which wasn't being picked up by grub-btrfs.
>ask some very specific stuff
This is my general use too
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>>106850686
I'm using Pale Moon as my main, it's nice to have a browser that only tries to be a browser and nothing else.
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>>106838706
>OP's pic
If I'm honest here, I'd rather have been issued a macbook air rather than a 17" intel ultra laptop with fucking garbage ubuntu installed on it.
Holy fucking shit ubongo is the worst garbage I've ever used and I'll ever use, no joke I almost never have used ubuntu in my life.
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>>106850842
no where in that image is ubuntu referenced. you need your meds and you need your daily does of semen from another man, and possibly a gender consultation.
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>>106850864
I know ubuntu isn't mentioned, but that's what I got issued, you fucking monger.
I told them if I could install debian and they said I needed to contact cybersecurity to ask if they support debian.
I went from an M3 air, that constantly throttled to hell, compiling the app in a minute to compiling it in 5 minutes when it goes fast, it's supposedly an ultra 7 155h, so should be around the same performance as the applel one, but isn't.
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To replace mom's old laptop, I want to give her an All-in-One PC. My main goal is to give her a 27" monitor and a keyboard she can move. Debian, xfce, the usual programs for Internet, office, multimedia. Anyone got good or bad experiences with it? I assume it's harder to upgrade or replace parts. I read conflicting accounts about taking it with us for vacation (can't imagine why, just put it safely in a box). Or would you recommend a small office PC?
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>>106850897
get her the new raspberry pi 500+
more than enough to browse the internet and check emails
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so I've wanted to hop on the Linux train for a while now, but like a lot of people I'm stuck on which distro to pick. My usage is pretty basic, mostly gaming / retro gaming. Which distro has the best compatibility and ease of use cause I'm too retarded to run line of codes
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>>106850534
4chan certainly has beaten the need to Google it into me.
>Go learn the basics of bash, piping commands, xargs, etc...
There, that's what I want! I'm writing this down, what else makes a strong foundation for a babby Linux user to grow up into a big strong wizard with a vitamin D deficiency?

>>106850583
The Flatpak would run under a different user by default?
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>>106850930
it doesn't matter. the distro you choose will never matter. this needs to be a fucking sticky in this general.

if you want specifically retro gaming commodore os had good reviews from explaining computers.
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>>106848410
How dare you slander dolphin
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>>106850686
Vivaldi
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>>106849831
You can have it install a minimal setup that's similar to what you'd get from doing it manually, or install a desktop package so you start off with kde or gnome or xfce or even just a window manager. Even if you pick those options it won't install a browser or any software like that.
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>>106850706
Linux Mint
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>>106850686
Librewolf. It's basically just a slightly configured firefox.
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>>106850656
A lot of people treat them as a search engine replacement, even though they're often worse at it than actual search engines (which are already shit).
I guess on that topic, anyone got any search engine recommendations? Not linux specific but still. I use brave search personally (and I don't use the browser).
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>>106851085
I use startpage
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>>106850930
Mint Xfce (don't use PPAs) or Bazzite (immutable so it's more normie-friendly but you're not getting the real "I copied and pasted this random command and nuked my install" linux experience, has snapshots by default)
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>>106851496
kde doesn't have this problem
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kde does have this problem
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>>106851496
works on my machine
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BROS..... i fucking lcvoe linux....
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>>106851662
anon, the gender therapy consultation is covered by your health insurance.
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>>106851614
It doesn't you just dont notice it
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>>106850686
These days I only use Firefox with UBO or Brave (if I need Chromium)
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Looking for a KDE theme that is basically dark transparent boxes, sort of like with i3, where the titlebar can be made to match the "body" of the window. Bonus points if it comes with Windows-like corner buttons.

Pic related is what I first tried, as per recommendations here. It ended up being something of an eyesore. No guesses as to why.
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>>106850630
- mkfs.fat -F32 /dev/nvme0n1p1
- cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/nvme0n1p2
- cryptsetup open /dev/nvme0n1p2 cryptroot
- mkfs.btrfs /dev/mapper/cryptroot
- mount /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt
- cd /mnt
- btrfs subvolume create @
- btrfs subvolume create @home
- btrfs subvolume create @var_log
- btrfs subvolume create @var_cache
- cd /
- umount /mnt
- mount -o noatime,compress=zstd,space_cache=v2,subvol=@ /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt
- mkdir -p /mnt/{boot,home,var/log,var/cache}
- mount -o noatime,compress=zstd,space_cache=v2,subvol=@home /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt/home
- mount -o noatime,compress=zstd,space_cache=v2,subvol=@var_log /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt/var/log
- mount -o noatime,compress=zstd,space_cache=v2,subvol=@var_cache /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt/var/cache
- mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt/boot

>>106850686
Icecat
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>>106846845
Enforces DNSSEC.
Reduces privacy exposure by caching DNS queries.
Consequentially, decreases DNS look up latency if the DNS query has already been cached.
Hardens DNS queries.

to enforce dnssec and cache my stuff for dnscrypt heard its better together cuz of this
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I'm considering moving to Linux to Windows after near 30 years using the latter.
From what I gathered so far, the best versions for me to start seems to be Fedora, OpenSUSE Leap or Mint Cinnamon.
Mint Cinnamon seems to be touted as the best version for a Windows user to familiarize with Linux, but Fedora seems to have a more competent/professional team behind, though I hear they do fuck up sometimes (something to do with faulty codecs?). Leap seems to be the rival of Fedora.
I'd like some clarification their pro and cons. Of course I googled it first but users just throw terms like YaST, Zyppy and Package Managers. I did google the meaning of each but it's still hard to get it when somebody just says "Oh, Fedora has better updated packages!".
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how bad is ntfs really?
i can wipe my game drive and use it exclusively for linux cause by windows drive still has like 600gb for games that wouldnt run on linux
but i also have an 8tb drive that i use as my archive which i cant really reformat because i have nowhere to back up all the data
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>>106852250
just buy 8tb of memory and keep your archive in VRAM
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>>106852204
Pick one and test it out. Do couple of test runs and then install for proper. It's same shit I don't understand what the big fuss about distributions is- Linux is a kernel and bunch of scripts running around it.
Be prepared to tinker. After using Windows for so many years, any linux desktop STILL in 2025 (since 2000) looks and feels more or less like a cheap knock off or some fan made baroque thing.
But it's not that bad I guess just lower your expectations.
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>>106852204
As far as how distributions handle packages goes, there's generally two things to consider: how frequently they update them and how stable they are (more about stability later, it's not what you're probably thinking).
How often shit is updated should be pretty easy to understand, distros like debian update at a glacial pace in an attempt to make sure whatever they supply has been thoroughly tested by everyone else and patched, distros like ubuntu and mint update their packages at a steady but more frequent pace, fedora is typically a bit faster than that, and distros like arch are bleeding edge and will almost immediately have the latest updates for the software available.
Stability on the other hand doesn't refer to things like crashes and bugs in this context, it's about how package versions work. Basically a stable distro will separate major versions of a piece of software into separate packages, maybe even subversions too. Or it won't even have the newer version in a given distro release. Like gimp for example relatively recently moved from version 2.11 to 3.0 (now it's on 3.something). Debian bullseye still packages gimp 2.11, because it ensures that people using it aren't suddenly going to have gimp change from what they're used to. The newer debian release, trixie, has gimp 3.whatever on the other hand.
Hope this helped, I'm very sleepy so it might not be useful
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i have been CRYING for HOURS because my Linux admin told me to just use GCC instead of clang and cpplint, ls, find and mv instead of tree and rename. everyone agrees
everyone is against me
i am so alone
if gcc isn't the mark of the Beast then why am i being forced to read irrelevant warning messages
but alas
i am PUNISHED
just for invoking the name clang
it's like Jesus name the way it's garlic to these sudoer vampires
gcc supremacists all the way down
and my rejection by society is total
truly, this is why everyone hates me
this is why i can't have friends
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>>106842941
i just started using linux seriously for the first time today and I've already figured out how to rice it. Use google and a common distro it's not hard. Stop being a bitch.
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>>106845089
>gnome web
use a real browser
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>>106843252
You're going to have to be more specific about why it doesn't work. Post startup logs. Unbound really shouldn't care what port number the upstream DNS resolver its forwarding to is on.
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>>106852970
>>106843252
Also don't firewall the loopback interface, are you some kind of retard? Lo is local to your machine.
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>>106845089
Can you not just install Violent Monkey, etc, into it from Firefox Add-ons?

GNOME Web has (admittedly very buggy, at least the last time I used it) extension support now.
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>>106852250
ntfs-3g very reliable and fast enough for HDD. Do not use ntfs3. Do not use ntfsfix. Run chkdsk from Windows if there's a filesystem integrity issue. If it refuses to mount, check journalctl / dmesg for the real error message and ignore the one proffered by mount.
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Before i'm moving to Linux on my laptop.

Does Linux have more battery life than Windows or macOS on my laptop?

I'm getting scared when Linux going to drain battery more than Windows or macOS on my laptop.
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Any way to get Mint's file uploader to show thumbnails for video files? On windows you can see thumbnails for video. KDE Plasma and Kubuntu also show thumbnails for video in their file uploaders.

On Mint everything shows up as a list instead of a thumbnail grid when you want to upload a file through the browser (Such as Firefox), but not only is everything super tiny so the only hint as to what you're uploading is the filename, but it only displays image file thumbnails, and you have to manually view the contents of a folder beforehand on the desktop before it generates the thumbnail preview for those image files in the file uploader anyway (It doesn't generate the thumbnail cache on demand). It's such a hassle to upload stuff in Mint.
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>>106853994
So, in the file uploader, if you select an image file, the preview will show up in the right hand corner, but selecting a video file will show nothing.

There's also no option to switch to grid view, which on Windows and Kubuntu give you an option to, and then it generates thumbnails right there in the grid. And you can change the size and stuff.
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>>106853994
That's Gnome's file picker, either use the KDE one or live with it.
>the only hint as to what you're uploading is the filename
back in the day that's all we had, and we somehow survived it.
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>>106850686
uBlock Origin is the only adblocker which fully works, so I'm stuck on LibreWolf.

>>106852204
>Mint Cinnamon seems to be touted as the best version for a Windows user to familiarize with Linux
It's not bad, but it's more for former XP/Win7 users who don't need much out of their computer. Fedora KDE is the better choice between these, you just need to manually install proprietary codecs and drivers, etc. You can use Aurora instead if you want it to be set up for you (it's basically Fedora+).
>I'd like some clarification their pro and cons
>it's still hard to get it when somebody just says "Oh, Fedora has better updated packages!".
Fedora is updating to the latest versions of packages (applications, drivers, libraries, desktop environments, etc.) every 6 months. Mint is only doing that once every 2 years because it's based on the LTS release of Ubuntu. The LTS release model mainly benefits some workstations and servers.
Everything else is pretty much the same aside from KDE and GNOME specifically being better set up on Fedora compared to Ubuntu, at least from personal experience.

>>106853922
The battery life is the same unless your distro misconfigures power management or if you're coming from a Windows device where the OEM didn't configure power management correctly. When both Windows and Linux are properly configured they have the same battery life.
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>>106854176
Brave's blocker set to aggressive is pretty much the only content blocker even slightly comparable.
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>>106852873
>GCC instead of clang
Why would you even need clang? Your distro is not built with clang, probably none of the tools you're using were built with clang.
If the choice of compiler makes a big difference to you then perhaps you're in the wrong trade.
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For me it's Kubuntu
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>>106854186
see >>106838686 . Brave adblock fails the anti-adblock check on dozens of pages from my experience, even on "aggressive" mode.
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>>106854252
Probably some software like Firefox is built with Clang (they don't support building with GCC, although distros sometimes patch it to do so) but in general you're right. I'm not sure why you'd care either way. Sure the performance can sometimes be better but it's usually marginal gains.
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Is Devuan 5 good for a total noob?
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>>106854405
Debian itself is not good for a total noob. Devuan is just a non-standard Debian so it's even worse.
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>>106854405
If you want a challenge, yes.
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>>106854405
It's fine, it works well out of the box and there's plenty of help online for it.
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>>106854405
I would not use a Linux distribution in 2025 that's still using Sysvinit as its default init system. I look forward to seeing how they plan to support the GNOME desktop environment going forward (OpenRC already has a plan and there are people working on an openrc-gnome-session to replace the old gnome-session code)
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>>106844517
Not that guy, but honestly, I'm starting to buy that standpoint. What's the point of appealing to people who will only get on board when things are made worse?

I think there's a sweet spot here somewhere, where people try to make something as best as they can, but start thinking "best" means "most popular".
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>>106854405
Yes.
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>>106854405
No.
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Maybe.
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I don't know.
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Can you repeat the question?
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What's the deal with the /fglt/ being posted hours before bump limit, and always with an inane pic?
And more importantly, why does everyone post in these threads instead of ignoring them?
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>>106855002
Nobody cares what image you use in the OP
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>>106855002
Same reason /spg/ got jeeted up.
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>>106855022
I care
How about for once an OP that doesnt involve appleshit flamewars?
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>>106852192
Unbound can also enforce dnssec, cache dns queries, and harden dns queries
There's no point using both unbound and dnssec when unbound can already do everything
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>>106855047
It's a lot easier to just point and laugh at them.
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>>106855053
DNScrypt Proxy is still useful to avoid centralising all of your DNS queries to a single upstream resolver. DNSCrypt Proxy will rotate between multiple different upstreams.
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>>106855002
Linux threads have been made by an itoddler for a long time. He's posting the new thread instantly so that a non-flaming one gets closed as a duplicate. There isn't that many people participating in these threads so nobody cares.
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>>106854546
Devuan has several different init systems you can choose when you install. Also Sysvinit did nothing wrong, fag
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>>106855149
It didn't do anything right either. I would sooner choose anything else over it, and yes, I know they have multiple different init systems but Sysv is still the default.
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Going to switch over to Linux from Win10 soon. I dualbooted Ubuntu alongside windows a few years back, experimented with other distros, still have it on my laptop.
But I don't feel like experimenting now.
What can a gamer like me switch to? some people said KDElinux, some said Bazzite, I was thinking about just going with fedora and leave it at that. Is arch stable as a daily driver for a non-programmer? I currently have a nvidia card but I might change that and wondering if radeon might be better for my next upgrade.
Of note might be that back when I dualbooted, I had a radeon card but couldn't run alien isolation on Linux despite it being made with radeon tech. On windows it ran fine.
As an aside I also run programs like krita, darktable and blender for my creative hobbies. I know they run well on Linux. For video editing I use davinci Resolve but I haven't edited a video in years. It didn't have a proper Linux version back then, does it have now? What are some decent video editing programs on Linux these days?
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>>106855069
You can also do that with unbound as well.
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>>106855187
If you like KDE then use kubuntu otherwise use mint. If you dont like either of them you could try fedora but it requires manual work to get rpmfusion set up
Davinci resolve has a linux version but its only supported by centos. There's tools online you can use to convert the .rpm file to whatever distro you end up using.
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>>106855222
You have to hardcode them though, DNSCrypt uses a markdown feed that constantly gets updated so you're not hardcoding anything. It also supports relays so you can relay DNS requests through a circuit if you want.
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>>106855055
You come to a friendly thread to laugh at linux users?
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>>106855242
The apple users, I mean.
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>>106855238
>You have to hardcode them though
No not really you just add them to the config file. Its the same as how dnscrypt would use a markdown feed for it. Privatizing dns requests doesnt really matter when your isp or vpn will still see the ip address you connected to.
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>>106855246
The apple users that are always portrayed in a positive light in all those images used in the OP? >>106838706
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>>106855251
So how do you add the HTTP feed which it downloads to the config? I don't think it supports that, you'd have to script something yourself. It's a lot cleaner to use Unbound as a cache only.
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>>106855237
I know the CENTOS version of da Vinci resolve and I'm 99% sure its just for running the server side of things, not actually editing videos.
Isn't canonical currently converting all of their gnu stuff which causes problems?
Also, I was considering arch or KDElinux because steamos is based on arch and I was thinking that it would get a lot of support in the future.
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>>106855168
>It didn't do anything right either.
Nah. It works well, is dead simple to manage, and isn't even significantly slower than systemd -- which is why early systemd boosters used to wave around misleading benchmarks against serial sysviint, when even back then, the much faster parallel sysvinit had already been standard on virtually every distro for close to a decade.
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>>106855267
It doesn't work though, PID guessing and zero process supervision is not the way to go.
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>>106855187
>gamer
>davinci resolve
Bazzite or Nobara

>>106855264
>Isn't canonical currently converting all of their gnu stuff which causes problems?
It's not really causing major issues. Most of the bugs they found were fixed. Either way, when using Ubuntu or Mint you'll usually use the LTS version which is unaffected by these changes until the next LTS. So until the mid 2026 the core utils changes won't affect you at all since you'd still be using the base system from 2024.
>was considering arch or KDElinux
KDE Linux isn't really as usable as you'd think. It's only just been released and it primarily serves as a way to consistently report KDE-related bugs. If you want something close to SteamOS but more usable on desktops then use Bazzite or any other Universal Blue or Fedora Atomic distro. Those have atomic (stable) updates and an immutable system which guards you from breaking stuff and allows you to easily revert changes.
SteamOS being based on Arch is completely irrelevant. Arch is targeting power users who like to configure their whole OS manually, while SteamOS is targeting casual users who don't want to maintain their OS at all. They're fundamentally different since Valve uses their own release schedule and sets up an immutable system (with systemd I think). So SteamOS is closer to Fedora Atomic distros than it is to Arch.
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>>106855264
Pretty sure the centos version of davinci is also used as a regular video editor. I've seen enough people mention it at the very least.
Don't know much about the gnu converting stuff from ubuntu.
If you know what you're doing you can use arch if youre fine with dealing with updates possibly going wrong. There's also the other arch-based distros like manjaro and endeavour that have kde versions.
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>>106855260
Thats not hard to script and shouldnt be the sole reaosn why a whole second program needs to be ran infront of another to do the same job that the previous program does.
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>>106855325
It still doesn't solve the issue of private relays. You say that doesn't matter because your ISP can see which servers you're connecting to anyway but I disagree. With proper SNI encryption (e.g ECH) then your ISP can't tell beyond the IP address (which if it belongs to a CDN server could be a frontend for many hundreds and thousands of different websites)
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>>106855442
Using private relays means that the relay will see your dns request instead of your isp. Don't think its a good idea to hope that the ip address you're connecting to will be obfuscated enough by a cdn or whatever to remain private from your isp. You should just use a vpn if you dont want your isp looking at what you browse but all that will do is shift the monitoring from your isp to the vpn.
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>>106855307
This is some solid info I can work with, thanks.
Never even heard of nobara before. Either its new and I'm out of the loop or it is really niche.
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>>106855823
Nobara is niche same with bazzite
Immutable systems are also horrible to work with.
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>>106855823
It's more niche than Bazzite. It's made by the guy who created Proton-GE.

>>106856047
>Immutable systems are also horrible to work with.
>t. unemployed
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>>106855534
It constructs a circuit and it's encrypted end-to-end so the final hop knows there's a request and knows to send it back to the previous hop but it doesn't know who requested that the DNS lookup be made. It's quite effective and yes, a VPN is still a good idea but not necessary just for DNS.



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