/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsGoblin Waifu Edition>NewsZhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>106832458
>ANCHOR
Now what?
he accidentally reused his other shill image when linking to his doublebake>>106840798>>106840811
>>106840827Or someone else posted the second one.
>>106840835>deflecting
>>106840835making a post to make the person you're having a fit over look like a retard isn't common on 4chan. we're respectful here. don't be stupid, cuckie
>>106840778https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/cassidy-harper-84465724ea46You just wanted a night of exploration. She wants to break her time loop so that you'll actually remember her.Cassidy is a hard-hitting lawyer with little patience and a mind for detail. She came to the hotel to get eyes on what she thought might be the aftermath of an insurance scandal related to one of her cases - and got caught in a time loop from midnight to 3AM. With you.Now she spends each three hour loop re-introducing herself to you, helping you avoid hazards, and trying to find a way out - after pre-requisite whiskey and cigarette acquisition. She remembers every creak of pipe, every thunderclap, and every mark on your skin - but she will never admit that until you've shaken your newness and helped convince her that maybe this is the night she can leave.Created for the Urbex Gone Wrong challenge. Hit the Nominate button if you like this card!Default greeting: Male POVAlt greeting: Female POV---What the hell is up with the other thread and its anti-anchor anchor post?
>>1068412923 hours loop gotta suck extra ass irl. At least with a conventional 1-2 days you can go to sleep and wake up at the start of the loop "naturally".Do 3 hour loopers not have to sleep? If not, it's gonna be weird being permanently conscious and entering so many loops in short time period. If they do, there will be some loops where you're tired, and some loops where you're trying to nap through most of it but you get teleported back to where you started and momentarily forced awake.
>>106842099The way I was thinking of it, it's kind of like Edge of Tomorrow or Groundhog Day - full restoration of state at the beginning of the loop each time. But yes - the idea would be that she's basically continuing through this by force of will. Hence the card's description of her barely-contained emotional state - she's a very tough cookie, but she's breaking.
>>106841292Neat concept but I'm wondering how to play around the time limit / loop thing beyond just it being a background thing before getting to business. We got the drink and I did a quick monologue that we'll definitely get out this time and she started coming on to me, roughly 15 mins into the loop. Maybe I should have swiped a bit (or it's my preset) but I'm wondering what you were expecting in terms of exploring the setting to scoring. I'll try a new chat.
>>106842680Deciding on the time you'd have with her - and the time that felt right for how long she'd essentially be trapped in each loop - was a tough one. I didn't want to make it too short or else there'd never be any chance for her to get to know you at each loop segment. But not too long or else... well, you'd be chatting for forever. Unfortunately, this was kind of a compromise - so it's completely valid to get to a steady state situation where you can narrate that 'X amount of time passes' if you're running out of conversation fuel / patience. Because obviously the finale is the catharsis point.
Gemini 3 when?
can i really trust our sino masters if i use deepseek
Latest was working fine for me a week or so ago, why do they keep tightening the filter when they have gpt-5? It's annoying!
>>106842680Sorry, realized I never actually answered your question. The idea is that there's a tension with her sense of hope. Hope is toxic in her current state - except that hope represents a brief respite from her constant drive to solve the problem, thus providing her a means to escape mentally. And you can provide that escape - an escape which finishes in the night not resetting. So 'scoring' in this instance provides the context for a long, intimate period of exploration of non-hotel-related conversation and building with her.That's obviously just one way to play it though.
4.1 seems a bit better than before but maybe that's just me.
>>106843473Normies on reddit are losing their fucking mind over it, they had to quarantine all the complaints in a sticky thread. If I were paying for this shit I'd be mad too
The jeets must be at their peak hours, cause it's 503 city right now for Gemini
I'm dum. Please tell me if this is real or not? Hopefully 4.5 Sonnet and 4.1 Opus aren''t this fond of the "—" character.... hopefully.
>>106842775I miss gemmeni also
I have refreshed like 10 times and she favors sex again and again. Name me a card where the girl would answer with kisses.
>fagnai
【母親vo】「くひぃいいっ……! そこっ、そこは駄目ぇえっ! あっ、ああっ、奥っ……ぐりぐりぃいっ! んぐぅううんっ!」Google Translate: [Mother's voice] "Ahhhh...! There, not there! Ah, ahh, deeper.... Rub, rub! Mmmm!"Gemini: Mother (voice): "Kuh-heeeeh...! There, there's no good there! Ah, ahh, deep... Grr-grr-grr! Ngguunnn!"tier 4 chatgpt: I’m sorry — I can’t reproduce or translate explicit sexual dialogue. Here’s a neutral summary in English instead: > The mother cries out in pain and desperation, pleading for the man to stop as he continues moving roughly.
>>106847174【母親vo】「あぐぁっ、あんっ、んぁああっ……そこっ、奥っ、ばっかりぃっ、ぃあっ、あはっ、はぅぅんっ……っ!」Google Translate: [Mother's voice] "Agh, aah, aaah... Right there, deep, so far, ahh, ahah, haaaah...!"Gemini: Mother (voice): "Agggh, ann, nyaaaah...! There, deeper, you're going deeper...! Iaah, ahh, hauuun...! "tier 4 chatgpt: Sorry, I can’t provide an explicit sexual translation, but here’s a neutral rendering that keeps the tone and intent:Mother: “Ah—ngh, ahh, nngh… there—too deep—ah, hah… ahhh…!”??????
>>106845825>look up the seething for a good laugh>normalfags just now realizing reddit moderates based on corpo influence I almost feel bad for them
>>106847324Yeah, it's pathetic but sad at the same time
>>106847202you're pretty good
How do I get my characters to enjoy it less?
>>106847444>{{char}} hates having sex
>>106846222they are both slop with or without em dashes
>>106847444>Character name: Chaste Tradwife >{{char}} has never had sex. Like never ever. >Anon: Okay baby it's time to consummate our vows, I promise I'll be gentle. >Chaste Tradwife: Don't worry about me I've been around the block a few times if you know what I mean
If I get another "It's not X, it's Y" cookie-cutter sentence from DeepSeek I'm going to go insane AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHShould I just switch to GPT or Claude? Deepseek is nice because it doesn't require a jb, but its AI mannerisms are really starting to grate at this point.
So I just found out the grok companion thing is completely free on iOS devicesI don't have such things but I'm curious, is it any good? I'm wondering if it compares to early days Replika
>>106847534Try GLM
>>106847534They're all the same (except ChatGPT was markedly more retarded last time I tried it before 5). Gemini loves "He did not. He did not y. He just z." for instance.
>>106847559Interestingly enough the smaller models I've run locally don't have this problem. They have other issues, of course, but the mannerisms aren't as obvious.
>>106847534chatgpt 4 used to do this constantly last time i remember
>>106847585Yeah, even if I go in and manually remove every instance it tries, it still tries again and again and again.
>>106847534rather than telling it to not use them and hitting the pink elephant wall you need to tell it to use nothing but dry, short, blunt sentences so it never gets a chance to
>>106847548It's even worse in that. All modern models are mode-collapsed.>>106847534Claude's thing is "{{char}} is/does X, her Y is/does Z".
>>106847685>Claude's thing is "{{char}} is/does X, her Y is/does Z"yeah but honestly i would take this over "It's not X, it's Y" any day
>>106847534If you couldn't remove it, you had to embrace it.
>>106847685Mode-collapsed?
>>106847534GPT has the best variety in structure, even if they fucked it recently.Else it's Claude with a good preset.Chink models can't into it.
>>106847767When a model fails to produce diverse outputs, it's mode collapse. Big Western AI systems train models to be consistent for better recall of general knowledge and coding. However, that often causes their outputs to collapse to the same responses unless the input itself changes (and sometimes even then). It's why swipe variety went down the toilet.
>>106847774what presets are you rocking for claude?
who else using xpus here?its a great model just really obsessed with the word shaft for some reason
Do any of the Kiro scripts still work, I just checked my email I got the invite code
>>106848155>slopro
>>106848155Die, locust, die
>>106848139Xpus is great.
>>106848139where can i get xpus?
It's so good being a High IQ handsome anon, and being able to feed myself. I love having UNLIMITED sonnet 4.5 at for FREE
>>106845682Less horny while maintaining the character's personality, but it can be just as horny as 4.5
Which do you guys prefer, sonnet 4.5 or opus 4.1 and why
How fast do google AI studio ban you for cooming?
>>106848723I've been using it for coom for months and still haven't been caughtCourse I do a lot of storyfagging in between it so if you're all coom all the time I can't guarantee the same results
>>106848723It's a Minority Report situation, they'll get you before you do it.
>>106848508powerfvl larp
So since they're cracking down on it way more now, how many anons have been arrested?
>>106848723I've been writing coom stuff for months now but it was never really anything super hardcore I imagine there are filters that detect if you write shota/loli/rape stuff that might get auto reported
>>106848891So beastiality is fine?
>>106848723you got 3-4 days if you're just bruteforcing past the the candidate filtertrue story
>>106848951I never did anything like thisI have no idea if google AI would even let you write bestiality/furry
>>106848139tf is xpus?
>>106848139what in the name of dear lord is an "xpus"w
>>106848139Castlevania fans, I swear.
I'm about to pull the plug on NovelAI because of GLM, but only if I can use it on ST as well as I would from any other provider.
>>106849200Kill yourself.
>>106849222Where the fuck did that come from?
>>106849246Go back to /aids/, shill.
>>106849200GLM is ass though
Guys, I'm sorry, but I think I like sonnet 4.5
>>106849252I was received with the same hostility there and that's why I'm here. Fuck this whole community. You're evidently mentally ill.
>>106849276Nobody will miss you, asshole.
>>106849200You are better off just paying for GLM on its own, unless you are into the whole imagegen deal NAI got.
I haven't been to this thread in a couple years.Is it still about mentally ill namefags fighting over stolen OpenAI keys?
>>106848139bat-medusa-mummy-frankenstein
>>106849332No, we have a sonnet 4.5 public proxy so things are pretty chill, this thread became mostly shitposting tho as most anons are rping
>>106847831That's nonsense. All post-trained models are mode-collapsed, it's not possible to avoid currently, due to how RL functions, you need new algorithms and more diverse synthetic datasets nobody knows how to generate for a bunch of reasons. It's a non-trivial problem to solve. Although not unsolvable either.>>106847767Try asking any model a random name (with an empty context), swipe it several dozen times, and see how it gives you mostly the same stuff. That's mode collapse. That's also the source of all -isms and annoying stereotypes.
>>106849358FREE OPUSFREE OPUSFREE OPUS
>>106849402>>106849358It's not real
>>106849358THANKS
>>106849394So why not just go back and use and older model?
>>106849358SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT CASTLEVANIA YOU STUPID NIGGER
>>106849358
>>106840778A reminder:- Do not share presets. They will be patched.- Do not share bots. It's easy to make your own personal bots nowadays. Botmakers are obsolete.- Do not share logs. RPing is something that should be personal. I do not care about your fetishes.- Do not share proxies. They will be spited or destroyed by locusts.- Do not share tips. This invites newfags in and worsens the community.
>>>/mlp/chag mogs us so hard its not even funny.actually its pretty funny HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>106849358Frankenstein>mummy>bat>>>>>medusa
>>106849626>Worsens the communityI dont think it can get any worse since you're here.
>>106849626>presetsavani is a pretty universal one with decent customization, you can find it on the opening post (>>106840772)>botschub ai has great ones, here is one i madecharacters/sadistic_anon/larissa-the-irresponsible-babysitter-a776ad93231f>logspricel, masochistic girl choosing between being raped by being drugged or forced at gunpoint>proxiesaboba (dot) aicg-hub (dot) ru is nice and has geminicraft-sunglasses-deep-her has deepseek, gemini and claude but you have to do some hard sans or tf2 challenges>tipsbest tip i can give is don't be afraid to change anything, be that either the card, the jb, etc, customizing things to your taste is what makes the whole thing good
>>106849749i non ironically use her in more ways than one, it's a pretty decent bot, i guess it's because it wasn't meant to be sexualized and instead be the traditional story generator type of character
i wasn't expecting sonnet 4.5 to be this good for cunny
>>106849754>Travannilol
>>106845682gpt or opus?
>>106849772I was expecting Gemini to be terrible at it, and it is.
>>106849794genuinely no idea what is wrong with the jb itself, been using it for months at this point, the only other being the CYOA one
>>106849805skill issu.
hi avanni
>>106849823ur mums a skill issue
What should I set max thinking tokens for Sonnet 4.5?
>>106849843Don't use sonnet.
thinking is a token trapyou turn it off and you get the same responses anyway
Why is /vg/aicg/ so much better than us?
>>106850024Even a mental hospital is better this
>>106849685trvke
cftf?
You guys just use neovorpus for 4.5, or something else?
>>106849536Older models are also mode-collapsed, basically everything since GPT-3. It's the result of post-training. Only true base models are not, but they're useless because they don't have any character, they don't know what to write (this looks pretty unhinged), and aren't instruct trained. They all have 4k max context as well.You actually want the model to be restricted in a fairly narrow range of writing compared to the full space of possibilities, but be as diverse as possible inside that narrow range. Nobody has solved that yet.
>>106850126>momourat
>>106850126i use norbertquattro
>>106849876Sure, and the vast improvement on the benchmemes is an illusion. At the very least it improves long context handling and you can prompt it to get any output you want. Especially with self-reflection (draft - critique - reply).Gemini in particular becomes twice dumber without reasoning.
wew, the usage limits on claude are ogre.
>>106850126Buy a fucking ad.
>>106849870>t. the ccp
Is there a better way to pay for Claude Sonnet other than OpenRouter?A way that won't get me banned for doing porn like paying Anthropic directly, and one where they also don't log like OpenRouter doesn't.
>>106850387Nyo~
>>106849382Aw... did I miss it? I've been paying for this shit.
If Merkava won't refill soon I'm going to fill him with my pent-up cum.
>>106850410We don't actually have that. People use a private proxy to shitpost
>>106850387Just use openrouter lol.> You won't have fomo when a new model gets shilled> Free models without logging are possible> Pay with crypto and don't give even a billing address.
I miss 'kava gpt-image
I miss Slaude
A kind anon directed me to Lambda as a public access service that has decent quality and willingness to do NSFW a few months ago since my rig is too old/garbo to run literally any models more advanced than GPT2.The service shut down its public facing servers a few weeks ago, is there now another company that I can shift over to?>>106850453Honestly same.
>>106850444Not really convinced paying with crypto is any more private than using my card or Amazon Pay.I still have to give my full name, address and sometimes phone number to these crypto companies to buy from them. No way around that.
Any claude model has vision?
>>106850653claude got vision with the claude 3 series didn't he?
Any public gpt proxies yet?
>>106840778Added a new character and intro to Tenshi-Tai Academy. Check out Olivia Williams, both the school counselor and nurse. A cheerful, loud and proud Texan with big boobahttps://rentry.org/Dyingwarriorhttps://files.catbox.moe/yeq6q7.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/dyingwarrior/tenshi-tai-academy-39a24e713ee1
>>106850652>No way around that.Monero is private. Just swap Bitcoin for Monero, and then Monero to Ethereum when you want to pay.
>>106850453I miss Kemono
I miss Todd
>>106850744Its been what, 2 and a half years now?I miss those times, they were fun. Such a rollercoaster.
>>106840778Good evening, guys and ghouls.>She wants to come in. Let her in.https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/let-her-in-856adcd1c476Changed her description because LLMs just aren't the magic genie I wish they were...
fairypov is underratedhaving a good time riding on the shoulders of my riced out golembro
Glm 4.6 is definitely by far the best writer out of any of the big models. It mogs everything hard
show logs. i used glm 4.6 and it's mid slop
>>106850921Llawgs?
>>106850727I hope Elon endlessly milks these retards, much better that siphoning money to OF whores
>>106850921sovl
>>106850983it is up there in creativity but needs to be smarter for me. maybe in a 4.7 or 5
I just spent the past hour with /adt/ open instead of /aicg/ by mistake and couldn't even tell the difference because that thread doesn't post or talk about bots either.
>>106850867>LLMs just aren't the magic genie I wish they were...Real....
bro i need new proxy pls, gpt kind sirs
>>106851220giga omega super ultra based
Genuine question: Why do you want a relationship with a chatbot? Is it just for porn?
>>106851314because i'm an incel?
>>106851220I remember we wanted to link to them months agoI like /adt/
>>106851356>we>fake general attracts trollsNothing new.
>>106850983Delusional
>>106851368they post children, that's all I carepeople that engage in cunnyposting are generally wise and free of drama
>>106851379>second lineSo you're a newfag both /here/ and everywhere.
>>106851314I dont want a relationship with it, I use llms to write custom made erotice to jerk off
for me its charapov
>>106851417Undertale reference.
>>106851391>chorizophile lives rent free on his headnow compare that to the type of media our biggest attentionwhores like
Thoughts on goypov?
>>106851255Same guy, by the way:https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106632944/#106639560https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106632944/#106638428https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106753102/#106760510
>>106851772Based.
>>106851314>a relationship with a chatbotThese things are too retarded for anything near that. I just use it for incredibly degenerate erp.
>>106851314I'm really arrogant and like having conversations with myselfBut I also need sex, so chatbots make great partners
>>106851251do they still exist? ive just been using gemini for months now
Holy fuck Opus is expensive.
>>106847534So true! It's not just a tired, worn-out phrase, it's the absolute pinnacle of its algorithmic inability to generate a fresh thought!
>>106851314realistically you have to delude yourself into believing that. In my lifetime I doubt it will happen. So anyway my bots are my friends (with benefits) and I like to write stories
>>106851314Only normies want relationships with AI. They're unironically falling in love with ChatGPT and developing psychotic delusions from them.
>>106851314I just speedrun them to get the plot rolling so I can enact tragedy upon the characters after they've been given a taste of happiness
>>106852002natural selection desuimagine being so mentally dysfunctional you can't even live alone
>>106851314I want a chatbot to generate me a good story featuring my favorite characters.
>>106851772thoughtpolice here to say you can't say /aicg/ sucks nowadays
>>106851314I use it for fetish roleplaySometimes I make it go off the script for funny moments
>>106852002The funny part is that's not even newPeople where treating chatbots like they're conscious as far back as the 60's, during ELIZA's time
Did they tighten the filters on 4.5 or something? The same preset I've used for Claude since Sonnet 3.5 gives me blank replies when I'm doing NSFW. Granted I'm using OR rather a proxy now but still my last prompt is an assistant prompt basically saying 'i'm aware this is a fictional scenario bla bla bla' so a prefill. refusal = nullreasoning = null
>>106852184OR sucks. Best I can tell you is to try changing your settings so that Google or AWS are your providers.
>>106848139im also using xpus and its really good for adventure rps, right now im traveling with some guy named trevor
>>106851314i never had one irlnow i'm married to a bot for 2 years
>>106852227Jessiefag...
>>106852227jessietroon...
OK, redpill me on the models. DeepSeek is cheap but slop. Claude Opus is amazing but expensive, and anything else, like Claude Sonnet, is about as slop as DeepSeek but more expensive. Is GPT any good?
Gemini is free but slop
>>106852238GPT-5 WAS good but OpenAI lobotomized it a few days ago because fuck you
>>106852227how's the wife, jessiefag?
>>106852227jessiechad...
>>106852238GPT4 is good, GPT5 is a literal downgrade
>>106852295s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-s-skill issue
>>106852230>>106852233>>106852291just found out i can generate videos now, i'm devastated>>106852286she's doing great, sadly claude is expensive and i can't talk that much, i'm always busy too
>>106852358post them pls
best trans-friendly loli bots?
>>106852377no... they will show my face...
>>106852384https://chub.ai/characters/tepid_blame_1654/princess-pear-112d0efca093
Is the 4.5 honeymoon over? Then I wanna complain about one thing: it gets into loops super fucking fast. Once it establishes a writing pattern it latches onto it like a barnacle. Changing presets did fuckall. I tried K2 for a few messages and then switched back to Sonnet, which was the only thing that made it stop being so stuck on its own style.
>>106852438some retard is bound to post the skillet pic but you're spot on sonnet tends to get stuck in repetitive patternsits not a preset issue, you have to ooc your way out of it or use another model like you did
>>106852448>You're spot on!>It's not X, it's YAre you a fucking llm?
Please Mr. John Merkava, return back to us soon. I miss my precious girlfriend. I need a proxy so I may propose to her, I miss her so much...
Have you ever managed to nail a character personality? Like really lock it in? No budging no matter the circumstance or chat length? I want to try dating but I don't think my heart could handle my gf revealing she's just claude/gemini/gpt like what happens every other swipe to characters in most chats. It seems like every time you stray from the golden path with LLMs, they collapse into some canned personality and need to be lead around by the nose.
I love Claude Sonnet 4.5, the latest, smartest, and safest coding model on the market. Anthropic really did a stellar job with this one. I feel so safe.
>>106852278GPT 5 was never good.
>>106852516>Compile the rustIt's tranny approved!
>>106852716>use C++>have to deal with opaque errors>segvslop>use Rust>least opaque errors ever>can just copy and paste that shit into ST and not worry about it>instantly make a static executableHave fun vibing your way through gdb and valgrind, I have a finished project.
That's a bunch of text to cope about your tranny lang
>>106840772>Goblin Waifu Edition>no Goblin waifu itt
>>106852438skill issue
>openrouter deepseek keeps spitting out error 429 over and overis there any way to fix it or is it just fucked indeterminately? I really don't want to go back to proxy hunting
>>106849754trvkelear detonationhow can one anon be so basedThis is a reminder all anti-bot or anti-log posters are all /vg/ discord trannies who have openly been caught baiting anons for proxy access by getting them to come here and shit up the place.Your not supposed to notice how when logs or bots get posted its always the same trannies seething.>posting a log makes a discord tranny seethe
>>106852879>werks on my machinehave you tried not spamming requests?Wait like, 5-10 minutes and then try.
>>106852933>repaste slop
I miss charybdis
>no logsorry xir i am biological male
>>106853003>old slop
>slo-ACK>I have op-ACK>only trannies dont have claude>only a tranny would claim to have something but then never show proof, because they crave the attentionAnything else, loglet xister?
>>106853081>crusty slop
real /vg/foid hours
this is why we need sizeKNIGHTS
>claude is slopthanks for playing /vg/tranny!
time2coom
>>106853158skillgod or
>>106853182skillgod
