Why didn’t Japan take over the tech world like the 80s predicted?
The US literally crippled them.https://www.heritage.org/asia/report/the-us-japan-semiconductor-agreement-keeping-the-managedtrade-agenda
>>106842253This >>106842272Also they destroyed their economy and caused the """bubble""" to burst after forcing them to destroy their own yenAmerica keep crippling them now that anime and their culture completely took over american culture.
>>106842272>>106842552These posts were typed by Chinese hands.
>>106842253it turns out that land in tokyo having value on paper equivalent to all other land on earth combined doesn't actually translate into real wealth since no one can afford it and in fact that fake wealth creates an economy destroying bubble felt for generations
Because of their labor laws
>>106842751Wait until you learn about how much Apple, a company that doesn't even produce the phones they sell and barely is the most popular brand in their own country, is worth...
>>106842773I should’ve figured someone was gonna blame those guys…
>>106842773It's ironic that Henry Kissinger, of all people, is saying shit like that. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy when he actively went out of his way to make the world a worse place.
Hitachi then became too big and got screwed by the USA.
>>106842253The US waged economic warfare on them exactly like what it's been doing to China for decades now
>>106842253The US fucked them three times in history.Commodore Matthew telling them to open the fuck upNuclear bomb.Bubble burst. >>106842552
>>106842272They got whats coming for trusting Americans
>>106842697yes china would know a thing or two about not cutting your dick off to appease the US
>>106842697That would just make it more trustworthy, because the US declares China its enemy and wants to crush it because.... China is doing economically well...There is no other reason to it than that.
>>106842253They did though. All the best tech we ever got was all made in japan, and a lot of it was in the 80s.
>>106842253The Japanese central bank created a huge bubble in the market to try and force changes in policy.They were getting jealous of all the fun western bankers were having with regan-thatcher style deregulation.Now companies that would normally be innovative degrade into petty investment vehicles. See: Softbank pivoting from being a telecommunications company to being a VC investment company.
>>106842253I work in Japan during the winter months for close outs of projects, their business structures are just not build to ingenuity or anything that isn't just copying america's homework. The only difference is that they have a QA standard unlike China. I kid you not there are some of the biggest names in tech still using FAX to get shit done, progress through things in big tech are slow as shit, and without Silicon Valley telling them what to do they'd still be making 486 clones.
>>106842253they thought animation and game development is the pinnacle of engineering.not that different from non-jeet /g/tards when you think about it./g/eets are even worse of course.
80s:>hey here's a deal takeshi>sounds good, tanner-sanfa/g/s in 2025:>this is the jew's fault or something
>>106842272>The US literally crippled them.In the late 80s, Japan had a very advanced OS called TRON that put anything else to shame, and their whole industry was going to adopt it. So the American government threatened theirs with a Super-301 (total block of imports), rumored under request from Microsoft.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRON_projecthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO86G-bGuochttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYfoCe6q28A
>>106845145This. Never sell your soul and country's future to a foreign entity
>>106845486>they'd still be making 486 clonesHome
>>106845582>>106845590Wait, are you telling me that the love of money was, once again, at the root of some evil?I would've never imagined!
>>106842253Looks like the USSR
>>106842253Soros fucked their economy
>>1068455825th generation computing!!!!!!!!!
>>106845590They didn't exactly have a choice, Japan is a de facto US vassal.
Japan lost the war and has destined themselves to forever be americas dog. the moment they start to excel the americans will crush them.at the same time, Korea is doing significantly better with hynix, samsung etc. So Japan could do much better before daddy usa starts to tighten the leash.as to why they are getting bettered by korea, its cause I think japanese have just given up. life is good enough there. koreans also started giving up and are increasingly apathetic which is why samsung is getting rekt, their days are numbered and they are going down the same path as nokia.
>>106842253I don't know much. I guess complacency, lack of innovation and viewing technology (especially in the software sector) as a means for cost reduction through automation, etc. Strict regulations and of course US buttfuckery, are among the reasons why why Japan has fallen behind.>>106842773da jooooos, back to /pol/ with you
>>106847353They can ditch the US now and no one would blame them
>>106847436the moment they ditch the US one minute later they receive a call from winnie the pooh telling them to give up the sea of japan and takeshima island and become winnies eternal piglet else get proxy nuked by kim jong un.
>>106842773it wasn't china at the time (china itself wasn't ready for it). it was countries like malaysia and taiwan. otherwise accurate.
>>106847418Hey buddy sorry to hear about your mental retardation here’s your (you) big guyOh by the way it is the Jews you should know that by now
>>106842253https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord>It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal
>>106842253I heard they did shit like invent transactions out of thin air then way over value the company for the amount of income it had (some of it fake) and then borrowed tons of money against the fake inflated value of their companies. This made it extremely easy for foreign investors to pop their bubble. You can actually see that repeating itself today with the USA starting to lie about its economic growth numbers and generating over inflated fake wealth. I’m not going to say who but I’ve seen a company do shit like falsifying hundreds of millions in supposed transactions to keep their companies expanding as fast as possible even while the company is operating at a loss to expand. So basically the same thing they did in the Japanese market before it burst. Americans don’t realize how vulnerable an economic bubble actually leaves them
>>106847550It’s Jews not “Americans”
>>106845486>they'd still be making 486 clonesI rather still be using a 486 computer than the current hell we're experiencing.
>>106842272What? The bad guys doing something bad? No way!
>>106847494>Oh by the way it is the Jews you should know that by nowLast night I heard a creaking under my bed, so I checked it out. I didn't see anything there but I just know it was the jews
>>106842253>be industrial superpower>"Hehe this is gonna be great, free money forever">don't change anything about the technologies you offer for 3 decades>other countries finally get their shit together and catch up>at this point you're fucked because you don't have the resources anymore to invest in R&D>fall behind immensely and hold on to the few niche things people are still willing to pay a premium forIt's like if Commodore ran a whole country
>>106845486> I kid you not there are some of the biggest names in tech still using FAX to get shit doneCan confirm. It was still like this in 2007 when I worked there, as eye opening as that retroshit was. People I talk to still see FAX used across massive swathes of the Japanese corporate sector.You'd shit your pants seeing how much is still done by paper form with pen, which in itself keeps the use of FAX as the backbone of their infrastructure. It's like pulling teeth with pliers to do anything.
Pretty obviously, China became the new Japan. There's always a bigger (cheaper) asian.
>>106847457That's a better deal than what they have now>Infinite jeet immigrants>Constantly getting their currency attacked
>>106842253Do you think jews and their golems were going to allow a resurgent japan like that after ww2?
>>106844951>>106847669>it wasnt da joooz stop pol postinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisishttps://press.farm/what-did-george-soros-lose-1997-asian-crisis/https://www.futunn.com/en/learn/detail-short-alligator-george-soros-s-three-classic-sniper-battles-54045-220842239 turns out, rich billionare jews can literally cripple your economy instantly by spending enough money at the international jew casino at the right time. why these kinds of mechanisms would even exist escapes me but Im not jewish.
>>106842272fpbp & /threadJapan, Germany, and South Korea are vassal states of the US.
>>106848019He was just capitalizing on a trend reversal. The 90's were when China was rapidly sucking in everyone's manufacturing, America included. Japan was hardest hit as they were the original "cheaper alternative" for most things.One reason why investors didn't buy the bait so hard on China is because they learned from the story of Japan. Everyone was greedy and expected their pace of growth to go on forever and pass the US even.
>>106847413That doesn't make any sense. Korea is as much of USA's bitch as Japan.
>>106842253Reagan singlehandedly destroyed Japan's economy.
the bubble burst but also jap businessmen make terrible decisions. Microsoft's main jp partner invested millions on a giant dinosaur to advertise their computers. SNK made a fucking amusement park. They pissed off all their fortunes in fun ways
>>106842773>Ironically, this would lead to the ascension of China as an economic power and eventually the world's strongest military power.
>>106845486>QA standard unlike ChinaYou're about 10 years late to that, muttbeast
>>106848240Chinas military has never been tested. Russia had decades to conquer Ukraine in a night and they can’t make any progress after 2 years. China can’t take a tiny island.
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>>106842253The bubble burst, that is literally all there is to it. The same thing that will happen to the US in 5-20 years and the same thing that happened to Europe in 2007/8.
>>106848019>1997>more than half a decade after the bubble poppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFIMxRUAzQ8
>>106842773Please tell me you don't believe this and that it's satire. Everything you typed is inaccurate and only exists as a narrative, not reality.
>>106842803insane margins and revenue.>barely is the most popular brand in their own country58%-62%, samsung is in 2nd at 22-31%.There are currently much more valuable companies on paper with much less sound fundamentals.
>>106842253America destroyed their economy.
>>106848640>Chinas military has never been tested. Russia had decades to conquer Ukraine in a night and they can’t make any progress after 2 years. China can’t take a tiny island.only american in this thread, also ya we fucked Japan good, but they tried fucking us in WW2 the nips got what they deserved.>>106848791get fucked fagget
>>106842253The property bubble burst in the 90s. And today, the once energetic up and coming people of the 80s have fossilised into don't rock the boat types, leading to a decline in the once unrivalled Japanese quality.
The question remains now— will china take over where japan left off?
>>106842272>The US literally crippled them.Thats a funny way to spell "kikes", anon.
>>106852849No, china is too much of a scam country. The only reason their country hasnt already crumbled under the scandals is because it would dump the entire world into a depression. No other country could survive having their sole real estate company go bankrupt because it spent too much building fake cities, and also have 1/3rd of their gold reserves, at minimum, found to be completely fabricated.
>>106842803That is also proof that you earn more from idiocracy and trashing your customer in the surveillance economy than you earn from honest hard work, making superior products.
>>106848971I believe him cause the jannies deleted itSimple as
>>106842253Here, watch this on 2xhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Ac7ap_MAYIt's debatable whether it was all orchestrated or just allowed to happen but this is how it went down
>>106853187>No other country could surviveThey survived because they did what US couldn't: they let that company die and just took the pain. US bailed every failed company out and is now populated by zombie corps
>>106842697Kill yourself mutt
>>106845582not rumored we know for a fact that Bill asked for it say way he got his start by asking mommy to put in a good word at IBM.
>>106844988>Hitachi then became too bigWhich is quite impressive when you remember that the US broke up the zaibatsu after the war.>>106842253When the US broke up the zaibatsu it opened up the arena for small companies, and yo got a new geenration such as Sony, Toshiba etc. They were innovative and did well until they too hit stagnation.>>106845486Japan realised the importance of QA and learned from the best like Deming and Juran.
