is reverse engineering a dying art?are we witnessing the end of it?denuvo plus anticheat plus windows plus online checks have fucked it over
>>106859779>denuvo plus anticheat plus windows plus online checks have fucked it overskiddie copeany software restriction is still subject to the end user allowing it to be enforcedmicroshaft will never lock down the PC because it was never designed as a locked-down platform
>>106859779It's dying because computers are becoming terminals.
>>106859822>microshaft will never lock down the PC because it was never designed as a locked-down platformthis is literally what they do thoughmoreover while it's not dying, i don't think there'll be angles for new people to learn from. most people started hacking on videogames and now hacking a simple game takes a master's work
>>106859852>now hacking a simple game takes a master's work>everyone using the same 2 engines you can dump a SDK for in one click
>>106859852No, that's what they're *trying* to do, and have failed to do so since Vista. And no, W11 won't be it either
>>106859852>now hacking a simple game takes a master's workanon is so brainwashed that he thinks the only games that exist are AAA garbageware with memeuvo
>>106859779anon why do you carei actually love that's it's not a cringe trend everybody wants to follow (yet...)
>>106860104and you're so retarded you've never actually engaged in any form of hacking and yet you act like you know shitany retard (probably except you) can open quake 3 and mess with the internalshowever any simple game in steam is obfuscated to hell meaning you gotta dump all its memory. cheat engine is impossible to use in most games, though not hard to bypass, but it's still harder than it used to becommon win32 calls are hooked and so onthe bar is way higheralso what does the fuck memeuvo have to do with game hacking you retarded fuck? games that aren't aaa garbageware have the basic steam drm which is the same of having nothingso yeah coding aimbot in 1.6 (which you wouldn't be able to code anyway) is easy but good luck getting out of beginner hell>>106859904dumping it != hacking ityou can dump leagues memory. good luck hacking it
>>106860174>however any simple game in steam is obfuscated to hell The average steam game is made in Unity, Renpy or Godot and can be decompiled with widely available programs in one click, if its scripts aren't already in plaintext(You) are the one who doesn't know shit
>>106860219>https://github.com/Perfare/Il2CppDumper>Common errors>ERROR: Metadata file supplied is not valid metadata file.>Make sure you choose the correct file. Sometimes games may obfuscate this file for content protection purposes and so on. Deobfuscating of such files is beyond the scope of this program, so please DO NOT file an issue regarding to deobfuscating.you were saying? i guess you've never actually tried to do it, right?
>>106860219>Renpy or Godotalso i dont know why you're larping as if you know anything, because if you knew, you'd know 1. no one is making games in renpy which is a visual novel engine 2. no one is making games worth hacking in godot
>>106859779If reverse engineers are so smart, why is there no cracked Ida pro 9.x? Why do we have to rely on ancient versions?
>>106860174Deobfuscation is literally tutorial level shit. You are either a retard or pretending you have any experience in the matter.
>>106860375who is "we"? IDA 9.x was cracked even in betayou're the only one using ancient versions cause you're a retard
>>106859779>is reverse engineering a dying art?Not at all. It's a changing art. The barrier to entry is definitely much higher than it used to be in some cases. Yet still, in other cases, the barrier to entry has never been lower...
I still think cheat engine is a good entry nowadays.start out by manipulating values.then you might go on and nop some calls.then you start injecting your own routines....before you know it you use ghidra to disassemble weird email attachments.
>>106860375>why is there no cracked Ida pro 9.xida pro 9.2 is already on rutracker. dunno if it includes the decompiler, i'll download it later and check. currently on 9.0 so i'm not in a big rush
>>106860767Every version of ida has been or close to been leaked or cracked.Even the latest 9.2 was cracked.You just are too stupid to use the internet to find it. I swear brainrot is destroying intellect.
>>106861395download from the official cracking grouphexrays{dot}su
>>106859779It has always been a small cadre of programmers.
>>106861463they even got 4 videos of hackerforum fap material of a hoe drawing on herself to support the cause.{site}/video1.mp4{site}/video2.mp4{site}/video3.mp4{site}/video4.mp4
>>106861301the owner of cheat engine is just sitting on a money pile of stupid people giving free donations.Darkbyte hasn't done anything crazy since 2008.Horrible developer still using pascal. Refuses to provide better support or modernize and most contributions come from outsiders.Almost every anti cheat / security tool has signatures for cheat engine today and can detect it easily unlike in 2008 when much was being discovered.
idk I tried to use ghidra once on an old game and it was all gobbledygook and I know c++ and assembly and windows dev
>>106861496That's a man.>>106861516git gud
>>106859779nobody wants to crack denuvo games because they're not worth playing, same as why nobody wants to torrent woke hollywood movies or netflix slop series
>>106859779you tell me why there is no AI to reverse engineer arbitrary programs, let alone doing it perfectlywhich is extremely odd because you'd think AI and training is the perfect way to map human readable code to machine code and vice versa
>>106861516ghidra is nsa (nigger sex asshole) glowjeet software, just download a cracked ida pro made by white people
>>106859779impossible to make money on hackers
also we have qemu
>>106861516Ghidra is a pain in the ass to use. I only use it because it's foss. It doesn't handle any obfuscation well at all. Also seems to generate dogshit output for Pascal.
>>106859779Nobody is cracking AAA games cause they’re dog-shit and there’s no demand. It’s the same reason OG XBOX emulation is still kinda shit, nobody cares about XBOX games enough to put in the effort.
>>106859779>imagine if you will>being such a massive window licking retard that you actually believe thiskill yourself, spamming retard.
>>106861539>>106862651people/groups cracking protections aren't doing it to supply obese retards free software. it's done as a challenge and to be first to do it. but then you have demanding fucking faggots that insist everything gets cracked, while they contribute nothing to the cause, and people cracking things lose motivation to continue. when you abject failures on this website wonder about why people aren't rushing to crack everything: now you know.
I just didn't want to get into a hobby that had a 5 figure entry fee. If ghidra existed several decades ago then maybe I'd have picked up the skill for fun.
>>106859779Clearly not because it's how China stole all their tech
>>106863025you've never even attempted to, otherwise you'd know about the hundreds of free applications released over decades to reverse engineer code for nearly every computer imaginable.
>>106863043>you've never even attempted toYou're jumping to a hasty conclusion. I evaluated the tools at the time and they're not comparable to IDA. In fact I don't think that has changed. It's only recently that open tools have caught up and it's still debatable as to how much.
>>106863049you write like a chatgpt bot and someone that has clearly never done or attempted to reverse engineer anything. i doubt you have the ability to reverse engineer a light switch, forget code.
>>106863055You write like someone who is goading for attention, projecting onto people you don't know.
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>>106859779RE is alive and well. Who do you think researches all the malware?
>>106859779>is (anything related to tech) dying?YesComputers are no longer for nerds, they are for normalfags who spend a maximum of 2 hours a day on the computer, they want easy things.
where do i start learning reversing assuming i haev basic programming knowledgei got ghidra and x64dbg but it looks like eldritch abominations to me
>>106859779Its not dying but its becoming increasingly difficult to learn and practice the most viable use case is probably malware but its big brain shit mostly very obfuscated, you can use pwn.college to get going but dont expect a prestigious security researcher job anytime soon
>>106865275https://github.com/Cactus-proj/RE-for-Beginnersbut really just do crackmes
>>106859779Its tedious and boring just to get the appreciation of faggots for rev eng some shit for a decade.
>>106859779No, it is better than ever.Look at n64 games or Lego Island decomp projects.It's just that modern games are simply not worth the effort, so nobody is bothering to.
>>106863011why would you spend time trying to crack a game you don't actually like?
Denuvo has quite good obfuscation that keeps most crackers away, besides it's not an interesting target as far reward goes, contrary to anticheats where you can sell your shit, the cheat scene is thriving.However, cheats are going to get killed by attestation and improvements in the windows kernel/boot security eventually.>>106863011It was done as a challenge back when protections were not as advanced and still easy to automate and there was competition in the scene. Even a maxed securom/starforce with al fetures implemented was way easier than denuvo.
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>>106867687>boot securityhardware solutions exists even for consoles
>>106867687>/boot securityalso virtualMachines/emulators
>>106870766Truehttps://youtu.be/U7VwtOrwceo?si=Yu4Nq_bBgVctX-V0
>>106859779I think it’s a good skill to have, but I wouldn’t focus on it too much. It’s kind of boring unless you enjoy solving sudoku puzzles in your spare time. I only ever use it for game hacking and malware analysis. I couldn’t imagine trying to reverse an entire program for something as autistic as backward compatibility.
