Death to LEDs in street lighting
can you even buy a small sodium lamp for home use? it'd be cool.
LED street lights save taxpayers money and increases energy efficiency. LED street lights saved New York City taxpayers $14 million in maintenance and energy costs between 2015 and 2017. In Los Angeles, the switch to LED reduced energy consumption by 80%.https://fsg.com/how-street-lighting-improves-climate/
>>106861630Wow, less than $2 saved per person, what a nothing burger.
>>106861598>Soul vs soulless
>>106861630i would pay $20 each year to have proper lights
HOLY soulless
Sodium vapor lights output a color temperature between 1800K and 2200K. LED can also output that color temperature while saving energy and money.https://www.led-professional.com/all/1800k-2200k-leds-the-true-alternative-to-hps-lights-high-pressure-sodium
>>106861598which one is better for the ambient bug life
Led is comfy as fuck, anyone who been to japan knows it, yellow lights work only in European cities with castles and shit, there zero reason they should be used in a modern city.
>>106861630New York lost over $100 million dollars buying lighting equipment, letting it rot in a warehouse for 7 years, and then auctioning it off for $383K.https://www.longislandguide.com/2025/07/10/failed-cuomo-era-bridge-lighting-project-nets-loss-of-over-100-million-for-nys-ratepayers-taxpayers/
I love LEDs.>use less power>easier to see>makes schizos kill themselves because think certain wavelengths of visible light is going to kill them
>>106861598it's not led's fault. amber leds exist and in fact have existed longer than blue/white leds have
>>106861711they could lose the same amount buying sodium lamps and leaving them in a warehouse for 7 years toowhat's that got to do with power consumption?
>>106861714Those almost always still emit blue light, and virtually no one is willing to shell out a fortune for single wavelength LEDs.
>>106861713>leftcomfy>righteye piercing brightness, killing your night vision. making you seen neither the bright nor dark spots
>>106861720You fucking disingenuous kike; I'm saying that saving a mere $14 million is literally nothing when it comes to New York which pisses money away like an obese geriatric with diabetes.
>>106861713Fucking this.
Sodium lamps were ugly.>t. millenial that still remember the pre-sodium slop lighting
>>106861741Did you have a stroke while writing that?
>>106861648>dogshit vs not dogshit
>>106861732>eye piercing brightnessFar dimmer than the sun or indoor lighting.>killing your night visionMy night vision is fine.>making you seen neither the bright nor dark spotsI can see just fineI think you should see an optometrist and mention these issues you have
>>106861598just install 2000k-3500k LEDsproblem solved
>>106861748>he doesnt know about sodium vapor lamps
>>106861662Don't they also emit different parts of the color spectrum than LEDs can besides just the visible color temperature.
>>106861722i'm not talking about "warm white" leds, rather actual amber leds. they aren't some special expensive thing. it's white that was the tricky part. white leds don't really exist, those are blue leds with a phosphor coating that reduces some of the blue into other colours. green, red, and amber are all natively those colours only
>>106861773>More precisely speaking, there are two closely located narrow spectral lines at 589.0 nm and 589.6 nmthey're like the most monochrome light we can possibly make, which is why they are so bad, you can't see shit, it's literally dangerous if something is the wrong colour it can appear completely black
>>106861741>>106861772anon you said pre-sodium wtf are you talking about? bot?
>>106861598Give me LPS or give me death.
>>106861785>white leds don't really existThey do; many monitors and TVs have an RGBW subpixel layout for instance.
>>106861741this. mercury vapor lamps were like blue green tinted.>>106861792retard. you're not entitled to an opinion about lamps if you don't know the history of street lighting. you are a dumb millennial retad that should know to shut the fuck up when your seniors are talking.
>>106861792NTA but is your reading comprehension that of a 1st grader? pre-sodium as in pre-vapor sodium lamps
>>106861811Niggerbot, please reread your post.>Sodium lamps were ugly>t. millenial that still remember the pre-sodium slop lighting
>>106861811he said pre-sodium then said sodium in the next post, he's just typing nonsensically
>>106861821If sodium lamps are ugly, and pre-sodium lighting was slop, then what is passable?
>>106861630Whats the point of all these energy savings if the electric rate just goes up to cover the fixed costs of generating electricity?
I used to work for a smaller municipal electric utility. The city owned a shit load of natural gas reserves and some retard thought it would be a good idea to use fucking gas lamps for streetlights downtown. They were absolute dogshit and crime rates and car accidents went way up because it was so hard to see. I worked on project to retrofit them with LEDs only a few years later.
>>106861849>whats the point of X if you consider my made up scenario????
>>106861807what i mean is that there's so such thing as an led chip itself that emits a wide spectrum. they're either and only blue, red, green, and amber. any other colour is a either a mixture of these using multiple chips or with phosphors
>>106861864>he doesnt know
>>106861883hey it's now the same price in america as it has always been for me
I like LEDS because, but I want something even more efficient. 9w 800 lumen? no I want 1watt 800 lumen
>>106861883That’s just inflation from the fed printing more fake money and trump blowing the budget even more than Biden.
>>106861899there'll be a theoretical limit regarding how many watts is required to generate 800 lumen of light given a particular spectra. like even if you made a 100% efficient led, it wouldn't be able to do 800 lumen with only 1 watt of electricity. high quality leds are already fairly close to the limit. i think they currently go up to 200 lumen per watt (cheap shit leds do more like 100 lumen per watt), but 800 lumen per watt? i doubt that's even possible. i'm not sure what the theoretical limit is exactly, since that depends on the spectra involved. i'm sure there's someone out there that has worked out a conversion between lumen and watt for common spectra like "sunlight"
>>106861598It has nothing to do with LEDs. They just didn't want it to be orange at night.
Orange lighting is cozier and lets you sleep better. White lights make you feel like you're at an office.
>>106861630there are 8.5 million new yorkers, that's less than a dollar per person per year
>>10686167790% of >place but japanphotos are from the 80s or 90s
>>106861713soulsoulless>>106861711the fact the gop is shilling for him now is sad
>>106861720saving less than $1 per person per year isn't worth much when the corrupt state and city officials are mismanaging money for personal gain
>>106861630LED streetlights are bad for the bugs though.
>>106861748>>106861811HUSH jewish/gypsy israeli bot. After the hack we know who posts AMONG US.Of course yellow/piss/orange lights aren't as great as the sun's light spectrum, but replacing it with those cheapskate LED lights you wouldn't even put in your christmas tree is retarded. For that matter why the hell would you make your LED lights white?I too cannot see shit. They're bright as fuck in one focal point, but their range cannot illuminate jackshit. >>106861713 look how dark it is in certain sections and how those trees in the background are completely invisible against the green on green background. Notice how bright the LEDs are in terms of seeing the LEDs themselves from a close distance yet how you can't see jackshit in certain areas cause the light doesn't disperse correctly. They're more as guiding lights for half blind people who just want to follow the light rather than actually see what's around them.
>Old thing good>New thing badGet new material
>>106862015Gypsies truly are the most soulless people in existence, truly cancer.>>106862019They also make you feel like you're at the hospital. Only the hospital uses white lights and stinks of chemicals.>>106861811Fucking Israeli bots. Are none of you zoomers preparing anything for 4chan's manager? You guys don't even know what happened when 4chan was hacked?
>>106862155>Old thing was mediocre and I was hoping for an upgrade>New thing could be good, but the jews and gen-Zers are soulless slop eaters who have 0 taste.Shut up, bot. Us humans can actually create stuff. You bots are so tasteless that when you copy us you only copy the worst things imaginable.
>>106861849>>106861864energy rates are going up because we are closing clean coal and nuclear and gas and building expensive shitty windfarms and ai data warehouses
>>106861598So much better in 2024.
>>106861888>>106861913they closed down a bunch of plans like the indian point power plant, opened a bunch of shitty grifter wind plants that don't work and AI data centers account for like an extra 90% of new demand
>>106861849Because the electricity rate goes up anyway?
>>106862155yes
>>106862139we got LED lights on the field I play slow pitch on and they are so fucking ass it's unrealcrazy fucking glare all the time
>>106861630It didn't save shit, they just repurpose that money, you think nyc or la wants to give their residents a break? You are out of your mind.
>>106862163bots make stuff>>>/wsg/5996077
>>106862193go to an optometrist
>i HATE leds!he said, spending 18 hours a day for the past 10 years staring into a thinly veiled array of leds in a box
>>106861598Wow, more shit nobody should care about.
>>106861640You only divided it by person because it fit your narrative, no other reason.
>>106862125>saving less than $1 per person per year isn't worth muchMoving to LED saved far more then a buck a head. Claiming that improvements to the world are futile because the world isn't perfect yet is puerile cynicism.
>>106862208it's the same schizos that shill CRT which unironically actually does give them eye cancer
Watch as this thread devolves in to /x/ levels of retarded bullshit and superstition.
lampcels seething
>>106862214Cope.
>>106862207I'm not the only one who bitches about it >>106862213leds are trash and it's literally less than $1 per person per year
>>106862224Too long, didn't read.Plus radiation poisoning is technically free energy.ARGUMENT INVALID!
>>106862233yeah astigmatism is very under diagnosed
>>106862247>literally every outfielder on every team has an astigmatism
>>106862260>making things up to support his schizo ramblings
Sodium is between 560nm and 620nm. It triggers your rods a little but not as much as LEDs that have lots of green.
>>106862267If they had 'lots of green' then white LEDs would be greenthey have the right amount of green
>>106861598Those orange lights were unnatural, eyerape abominations. I'm glad they're gone. Monochromatic light is complete shit.
>>106862279Any green is lots of green in this context nimrod.
>>106862266>t. big LEDthose LED lights are so fucking ass it's unreal
>>106862202>bots make-*SMACK* that is a neuronal network, are you a neuronal network, bot?No. You're notBots simply copy-paste from a XML file. Bots do not have a neuronal network.False flagging bots these days pretending they're AI, I lived to see it.
>>106862282there is not 'lots of green' in white LEDs, there is in fact the correct proportion, any more or less and the color would be off, defeating the purpose of a white light
>>106861598>topIndistinct, monochromatic, light pollution, piss filter>bottomSharp, allows other colors through, can see the stars again, natural colors
>>106862139>look how dark it is in certain sections and how those trees in the background are completely invisible against the green on green background.Retard doesn't understand camera exposure
>>106862302*SMACK* go back to botcentral. You're really bad at botting.Writing it backwards for ragebait points I see>can see the stars againand what will you do about the pollution, faggot?
>>106862313>>106862302*SMACK**SMACK**SMACK**SMACK*Get out. Everybody hates you. Nobody is paying you. You're a waste of oxygen and the world would be a better place without your carbon emissions, bot.
>>106862313or monitor calibrationor image compression
>>106862294The purpose of light is to allow people to see. White light sucks at this at night because it kills night vision. White light is self defeating and men are foolish to try and mimic God's creations only to wind up with some abhorrent monstrosity you call "white" light. Better to make something that works instead.
>>106862348it brings me great satisfaction to know that you will eventually end up medicated or committed
>>106861673You are asking the real questions. I don't care if it looks like shit but it is less harmful to other life forms
>>106862361Keep on talking about white light you dumbass I'll go all night
>>106862329Take your fucking meds.
>>106862366>wont someone think of the poor heckin buggerinos (that we should eat to save the planet)
>>106862373Typical bot response.*SMAAAAAAAAAACK*https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0IpBCY8VRMI
>>106862380brown "person"
>>106862404>making up nonsense like white LEDs kills the bugs>happily lets monsanto crop dust his entire country
>>106862380Holy shit you are stupid. Everything is a fucking chain retard. I bet you are a boomer. God why don't you faggots just die off already. The day of the pillow will come faggot.
>>106862163None of what you wrote is close to being true.
>Monsanto is... LE EVIL!
LED efficiency whores are more willing to accept the slow defoliation of their surroundings than to build one (1) additional nuclear reactor per developed nation https://www.fws.gov/story/2023-07/dim-lights-pollinators-and-plants-night
>they prefer electrical lamps
>>106862452purity spiralling schizos is always fun, you can do with anything these luddites cry about
>>106862348>White light is self defeating and men are foolish to try and mimic God's creations only to wind up with some abhorrent monstrosity you call "white" light. Laughs in incandescent bulb.
>>106862348>and men are foolish to try and mimic God's creationsWhy are religious faggots like this?
>>106862207I love driving down the road at night and some stupid nigger faggot has bright af LED headlights.
>>106861630For 2 dollars a year I think id rather have the more natural yellow lights rather than a fucking white LED brighter than the goddamn sun right outside my window.
>>106862570>natural yellow
>>106862586>trying to argue semantics Does someone need a paddling?
>>106862593explain how 589nm light can be more or less natural
she's right you know
>>106862586Yes, how did we get light at night time for thousands of years? It wasnt 6500k LEDs.
>>106862612You explain it if you're so smart, bot.
>>106862631it wasn't sodium lamps either
>LED lighting is bad actuallyt. tyrone the rapist
>>106862636>make my argument for melollmao
>>106862447>Defending Monsanto There is no fucking way you're a human being.
>>106861598>another xer engagement bait led threadDEAD INTERNET
>90% of major metro shitholes skyscrapers are virtually empty 24/7You could save more money by turning the lights off in mr billionaires gays ass tower
>>106861713>sovl vs soulless
>>106861624Yes. I slap on my 18W SOX whenever I want some comfy vibes in the evening.
>>106861773>Don't they also emit different parts of the color spectrum than LEDs canMostly yellow from sodium, small amounts of orange-pink from neon-argon, while HPS also emits blueish-green from mercury.>besides just the visible color temperature...infrared?>>106861785>actual amber leds. they aren't some special expensive thing"Actual" narrowband amber LEDs *are* expensive, inefficient and unreliable. Just use LPS at that point.>>106861790>it's literally dangerous if something is the wrong colour it can appear completely blackWhether it's dangerous depends on the importance of being able to distinguish the colour of the object. In case of street lighting, it's almost always more important to be able to distinguish the object from the background, which monochromatic amber is actually very good at facilitating, since it increases the perceptive contrast. It's also far less dangerous than full-spectrum lighting in fog/mist conditions, as the narrow spectrum minimises light scattering effects caused by airborne water droplets.
>>106862666>>make my argument for meLol LmaoYourself
>>106863120>literally a retroonerlet me guess, you collect CRTs as well
>>106861630>save taxpayers money>make the cities ugly and a place where you don't enjoy livingGreat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYxrowovts
i am trying to buy chang some of those so im can bid the next time my rural local council changes the light poleshttps://www.moon-leds.com/product-pc-amber-24v-emc-5050-smd-led-1-5w.html
>>106863296they're just going to buy regular white LED street lights that every other council buys in your area
>>106863284I do keep a CRT TV in my parents' garage, but I feel like I largely missed the collector train. I watch VHS tapes and play on the MSX on it sometime. Currently typing on a 1988 Model M. Yes, I like old things.
>>106863312They have been buying low light pollution leds for a while, we are a touristic stargazing astronomy area.kinda decent, but nowadays we have way better options
>>106861598>be me, 1989>go out to smoke weed >everything is yellow/orange >roll one quickly and go for the first drag>starts snowing on snow>the humming of the ballast produces a calming effect like the purr of a cat that compounds the effect of the weed >drops start falling in a rhythmic manner, from the heat of the sodium >in sync with the beat from "A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules from the Centre of the Ultraworld" by The Orb coming from my Sony Walkman >everything is perfect >it's like film noire but orange, gritty yet quiet, dark but hopeful >zoomers will never experience this >be me, 2025 >everything is LED because muh superior technology >"white" light at home blasts through your pineal gland >"look at the savings!!!" >every gaming device needs to be RGB >"le pretty colours!" >spend half of the day looking at screens that hammer you with that "white" light>"it doesn't tire you like CRT!" >streetlights at night push yet more "white" light>their failure mode is some polymer rots and it's straight blue/violet light, unfiltered >nobody replaces them because "muh you can still see" >"why is my sleep shit??" >do some research >everything above is mostly blue it's just that your eyes are less sensitive to it>warm LEDs are a scam, they push more red but blue still all over the place >your body evolved with infrared from sunlight and craves for it LED goes into utility cabinets, garage, and perhaps the kitchen. Where visual clarity matters, and where you don't generally spend a lot of time. I accept LED wins in many cases, even most. But I'm replacing everything else with halogen, to get closer to what nature wanted. I'm actually gonna stockpile because they're gonna go after them next.Honestly the hamfisting they've pulled with the LED should be investigated.
>>106863388don't sleep outside under a street light problem solved
>>106862772>Noooo! Don't take away my inefficient expensive lights, it has SOOOOVLJust install orange LEDs
>>106863401This anon has been compromised by Big Curtain™Don't listen to his lies
>>106863388You forgot to mention mandatory blue standby LEDs on every device.>halogenWhy? The 2700K LED bulbs are pretty good nowadays. Hell, they can go down to ~2000K, which even incandescent struggles to do, not to mention the energy consumption.
>>106863428>2700K LED
>>106863464I do not understand
>>106861598SOVL–––––––soulless
>>106861733so they should just never save money?shut the fuck up nigger>whataboutism as an argument
Who thought this was okay?
>>106861785True, they used to be very common as battery powered bicycle lights.They were utter shit as "headlights" but far more reliable than a dynamo and incandescent bulb.
>>106861832>pre (sodium slop)Here you go, retard. Jesus fucking christ...
>>106863505>my life is like a video game
I can't even get fucking dimmable bulbs that actually work now. Fuck this . flickering shit.
>>106863505What's wrong with it?
>>106863505You need an RTX 5090
>>106863505pov you disable TAA in modern games
>>106863505>She thinks the light source determines the shadow and not the fixture.
>>106862631Do you mean the SILVER moon light?
>>106863577Buy smart LED's.Not only can you dim them, you can also pick whatever color temperature you want for example 2700K at night and 5000K at daytime to match the sunlight coming from the windows.Modern lighting technolo/g/y is amazing.
>>106862631>The color temperature of an arc light varies depending on the type of arc, but high-intensity discharge arc lights often fall in the range of 6000 K to 6500 K, closely mimicking daylight. Some sources specify carbon arc lights as being around 5400 K, while others place them closer to 6000 K.
if you could please consult the chart. sox bulbs have a very narrow spectral emission. there's nothing natural about sodium light. a high CRI 2000-2200K LED is way better.sodium light is so narrow in spectrum that it can be used as a tech replacing the green screen, since you can filter out that very specific wavelength. very interesting video on this subject: https://youtu.be/UQuIVsNzqDk
>>106861630And all that saved money just goes to niggers via gibs.
>>106863636>filter out that very specific wavelength.What, with your spectrograph camera?
>>106862163trvke, total klanker death, total zogLED death
>>106861598>less energy usage and light pollution is... LE BAD!My only problem with these was that they were too blue,but in my city they now use less blue LEDs so it's fine. I just wish they shielded them even more so less light escapes into the sky
>>106861883>implying this wouldn't have happened if we all used sodiumA single aislop datacenter uses many times more power than all lights in a city combined.
>>106863388i experienced that and i'm glad it's gone
>>106863695>shielded them even more so less light escapes into the skyI'm sure they shine 100% of their light downwards.Shining up would be a waste and that's easily fixed by adding a reflector.It's the light reflecting off the ground that causes light pollution and you can only fix that by putting roofs over the roads.
>>106863655A penny saved is another penny for them niggers, anon. That's wealth, because diversity (niggers) is our strength.>>106863711nigger
>>106863505The led is covered by a glass that makes it less blinding to look at, this is the side effect
>>106863673>A notch filter, also known as a band-stop or band-rejection filter, is designed to attenuate frequencies within a specific narrow range while allowing all other frequencies to pass through unchanged.crystals dude
>>106863609in this case the light source is a bunch of diodes in a grid, so yes
>>106861598>Old thing good, new thing bad: the threadLed lighting is superior to LPS in every possible way for street lighting. Only brainlets with nostalgia-tinted glasses think otherwise.
>>106863727completely wrong and retarded, kill yourself
>>106863740>muh brainletsterminally online. touch grass
>>106863740Only faggot gen-Z like you think this. Lay off the Youtube and tell your little brother to lay off the TikTok. You dystopian faggots.
>>106861713but you literally see less in the right image
>>106863655It goes to Israel foul kike
Only a mindless zoomer can prefer LED except for a surgery room
>>1068621022$ per year for doing nothing is a lot.If you think 2$ per year is nothing, I invite you to pay me 2$ per year. You won't because it is not nothing.
>>106864405orange lights look dystopian and have ghetto/criminal vibes
>>106863120coolI assume the ballast and the igniter are off camera? sodium lamps are more complicated than I thought.
>>106864456i like in brasil and i can confirm to be honest, the most drug dealer filled parts of my city usually don't have LED lights since the government doesn't want to send workers to risk themselves there
>>106862466>saaaaaaaaaaaar do not redeem the luddites saar
>>106861662>>106861773It's actually monochromatic, it has a cri of 0pseud retards
>>106864482Now read yourself again
>>106863623Overpriced bullshit. I installed a dimmer switch whcih worked great with incandescent bulbs.$50 for just one of these? How do they even justify rhat price? I would pay $5 tops and it better last a lifetime.
>>106862172>clean coal No such thing as clean coal>nuclearNot cost-effective without trillions in subsidies>gasAlso dirty, finite, non-renewable
>>106864456can't relatemy home country had virtually no crime when I was a kid and sodium lights were prevalent. now that it's corrupt beyond salvage they started putting leds everywhere. a penny saved is a penny that can be pocketed.
>>106861732Added bonus: It keeps retards off you in your house for more of your pathetic life.
i don't even care about led vs sodium honestly, my real problem is with light pollution, not being able to see the stars is extremely demoralizing
>>106862019>Orange lighting is cozier and lets you sleep better. White lights make you feel like you're at an office.When you’re outside at night, you’re supposed to stay awake, especially when driving.
>>106861598In games :>PissfilterIn reality :>SoulSomeone makes a meme plz.
the thing that really sucks about LEDs is that they often don't fail outright, they just gradually get dimmer over time and everything looks darker
>>106861598>pissfilter good>natural lighting bad
>>106864586That's putting piss on a representation of the day anon
>>106863388>Honestly the hamfisting they've pulled with the LED should be investigated.you'll sooner see them investigate the 10k hour conspiracy
>>106864537don't live in a city? i've never lived in a city, and while my suburbs aren't camping-tier skies, i can still see tons of stars at night
>>106864586don't you know? reality is brown.
>>106861630100s of patents about LED lights influencing how you think and behave
>>106864615LEDs are... le natural!
i associate low-quality white illumination with gore videos, so that's the entire vibe i get from LED streetlampsit's not very nice
>>106861630how can they save money when they run at a higher wattage, cost more per unit, and fail more often?
>>106862629>>90 CRI><0 R9
>>106862447
>>106863388I personally blame jews.
>>106863505>Shadows: Low
>>106861630use case for lights at night? we don't need them.
>>106861630sometimes it's worth it to use more energy if the result will be better. LEDs are horrible for your eyes.
>>106864503>It's actually monochromatic, it has a cri of 0monochromatic light has a CRI of exactly 1, you dimwit
>>106864909Yes, they are far, far closer to actual sunlight.>>106864992So you're saying you fucked yourself up and are now suffering because of it?
>>106866501i don't like sunlight
>>106864909photons are photons you mongrel
>>106866378sodium lights don't even use more energy
>>106862019I have 2700k 9w 800 lumen lights and they're cozy and orange.The only time I hate LEDs are when I'm using my camera and electronic shutter, you get horrible banding if you don't have an expensive camera that can compensate.
>>106866387>>106864503CRI is a bullshit metricAlso only lasers are actually monochromatic
>>106864510Please understand it has Bluetooth technology and an app these things are not free. This bulb is the future sir please purchase.
>>106866600>CRI is a bullshit metricwrong>Also only lasers are actually monochromaticalso wrong>low-pressure sodium lamps are considered monochromatic because they primarily emit light at a specific wavelength of around 589 nm
>>106864586> Thread about night illumination> Retard posts image about sun light
>>106866387No lol? Not even if you squish it between 0 and 1 which I saw but only onceI have no idea what tipped off your reddit spider senses but it doesn't even matter for this discussion, it's a google search away and sodium arc lamps are still replaced, trashed, never coming back and completely untenable dog shitCan't win with nostalgia troons
Pro LED arguments:>facts>logic>reason>kindness>understandingAnti LED arguments:>uh.... i don't like the color!>LEDS ARE LITERALLY SATANIC DEMOCRATIC COMMUNSIM!!!!!! AIIIIEEEEEEE SAVE ME DONALD TRUMP BY SENDING MORE MONEY TO ISRAEL NOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!
>>106866540>>106866703>photons are photons you mongrel
>>106866703>facts>logic>reason>kindness>understanding5 grams of arguemental weight>>LEDS ARE LITERALLY SATANIC DEMOCRATIC COMMUNSIM!!!!!! AIIIIEEEEEEE SAVE ME DONALD TRUMP BY SENDING MORE MONEY TO ISRAEL NOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!0 grams(nobody says this)>uh.... i don't like the color!eleventy billion tons holy shit orange is so cozy bring it back
>>106866684>sodium arc lamps
"let's save energy by replacing 35W lights with 100W lights"--statements by the utterly deranged
>>106861598ancient computer activates as 180W flowsancient comtuter does not activate or goes mad with 35W flow
>>106866281this. u should only go out at night if you accept the risks. lights only exist for women
>>106862447A multinational global megacorp should have better things to do than to make crop resistant to their flavor of pesticide. It might have started off as Soviet propaganda, but it hit its mark really well.
>>106862629Unless you specifically mention brands and modelsYou are going to have to buy random shit of your local suppliers shelf.Such is the mental illness of the twitter poster, and thne again of the screencap reposter
>>106861640It's really more like 20 cents per median earner since most of the taxes are payed by the top 5%
>>106863322>VHSwhy
>>106867792>top 5% paying taxes>everlmao
>>106861598Light pollution was earth's greatest export.Now what do we have? A couple stupid satellites?This is emblematic of Chicago's decline as a great American city.
>>106866737>>106866746Heh.Bait status: Successful!
>>106862348You aren't Christian or religious.
>>106868589Epic Win, My Dude! 9001 points.
>>106862139> israeli botWe both know what else is oh so yellow.
>>106862212he divided it per person because that's how it was funded: through taxes.
>>106862292you are the gayest retard
>>106862658isn't rape up because commies refuse to put people of color in jail? bongland now has higher rates of rape than sweden and india
>>106863388>>go out to smoke weedwhat's it like being a homosexual?
>>106864436it's not $2 per year. it say $14 milly from 2015-2017so that's at best $7 milly per year at worst $4.7 milly per year so $7/8.47=$0.83$4.7/8.47=$0.55so between $0.83 and $0.55 per year per personso nothing>>106864511>No such thing as clean coalclean coal is clean>Not cost-effective without trillions in subsidiesyou are thinking of wind and solar. nuclear is really cost effective. wind and solar are shit>Also dirty, finite, non-renewableso is fucking solar. they have to mine rare earths for the solar panels and the solar panels generate less electricity each year. wind also doesn't work at all "green" energy is literally just a scam
>>106861598The energy savings are obviously worth it, but the color temperature the world has chosen has completely ruined the aesthetics of night
