How much of modern tech used Rare earths
>govt already panic buyingkek, nice trade war
Can we just go back to old tech and optimize better. Do I really need 10GHZ and 64GB to send this post via a "modern" browser.I need 1 Billion dollars to buy out z80 warehouses and some programmers.
>>106866036HURRRY PLUNDER THE ROCKS WITH OUR USELESS FIAT TOILET PAPER
>>106866036Everything does that has a chip, a motor, a magnet, a relay, a pump...
>>106866050Ghina started it.
>>106866036>$1 billionLiterally pocket money, are they even serious?
>>106866070You can buy Z80 by the tons for a hundred bucks. It's so cheap they don't even sell by the chips but by weight.
>>106866036>The global rare earth elements market size was $3.39 billion in 2023 and is projected to grow to $8.14 billion by 2032, with a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 10.2%.Not much, 3.3 billions is nothing nowadays.
>>106866155Why did US allow China to gain a monopoly on it? Are US leaders that short sighted
>>106866193
>>106866213Plz don't tell me people running country are that dumb that they essentially offshored critical industries to an adversary just to make quick bucks. What would they think would happen if China invaded Taiwan or got into a conflict with US and US couldn't build more tanks due to lack of rare earth processing. Are they evil or dumb anon pls just say evil
>>106866270Presidents don't get elected to plan for 10, 20, 50 years. They get 4 to 8 years. If anything goes to shit in the 9th year, literally not their problem.
>>106866193Historically, leaders in general are pretty bad at leading.
>>106866270Both (doesn't mean that the capability cant be regenerated though)
>>106866158Nah, they're just better at it.
>>106866270>What would they think would happen if China invaded Taiwan or got into a conflict with US and US couldn't build more tanks due to lack of rare earth processing. All of our politicians for the last 40 years have had an End of History mentality and never even considered the possibility that something like this could happen.They thought we would all be singing kumbaya by now.
>>106866036Mostly just magnets.Also computer chips but they require very small amounts and those amounts can be sources elsewhere.Drone warfare requires shitloads of magnets though.
>>106866270They didn't really offshore rare earth mining.It was never a big industry until recently and China immediately became the main player because nobody cared.
>>106866193Because it's environmentally fucked to produce it, there's rare earths everywhere but people will tightly lose their minds if you start refining it anywhere
>>106866270wait till you learn about how much of our 'critical medicine' comes from them
>>106866193You're asking how China got a monopoly on their national resources? Are you an idiot?
>>106866193>Why did US allow China to gain a monopoly on it?You can't just angel invest a minerals start-up lol.
>>106866036>monopolize rare earth metals>entire govt panic buys>"lol jk">$1B richerbased
>>106866270Wait till you find out where our ships are built and how much "luck" we have that 49% of it are US allies.
>>106866617Probably India, Indonesia or the Philippines.
>>106866270think of the profits for shareholders, what will they buy their children for Hannu- errr I mean Winter Holidays™ with?
>>106866532Isn't this about African resources?
>>106866560NASDAQ BTFO
>>106866036>stockpile mineralsisn't the problem that we do all of the raw material refining in china?
>>106866560Why are we not just invading brazil?
>>106866167>>106866189Congratulations, you're one step from getting it.
>>106866830Yes, obviously. But you’d have to actually repeal anti-industrial legislation to improve the power generation, mining and refining in America or the west in general.The right will never ever do that though, this is as far as they’ll go
>>106866845>Building stable enterprises in BrazilSuicide from all angles and political alignments
>>106866911i don't think it's a left/right issue. our economy is fundamentally broken because everything except fintech/AI/SaaS software/professional services are too low margin and therefore too risky to exist as startup businesses.
It's so funny how fucked America is.At what point do MAGAfags or anyone who voted for Trump, even if just for the memes, realize how they have literally, in every sense of the word, doomed their country?
>>106866976It isn’t a right-left issue, even though the right has tried to make it an issue *and it should be*. Trump sloganeering about industrial policy and energy policy amounted to nothing.
>>106867011trumps just causing it to be more out in the open, this was inevitable either way. the whole situation is such a clusterfuck in the first place because of decades long internal corruption and treachery.
>>106867011What would Democrats do though?
>>106866807China has more rare earth elements than Africa. It doesn't surprise me that China mines in Africa because they are cheap, have even fewer regulations, and you can mine for rare earth anywhere. They could sift through tons of earth in the US as well for these same elements, but it would be catastrophic for the environment. It just so happens that China produces more than most other countries / continents. They don't have to dig as much.
>>106867042roll back the tariffs and continue on with >>106866976
>>106867066So just continue pushing the problem further into the future?
>>106867042i will tell you what they would not do: put tariffs on all their allies and trade partners
>>106866036>It will be okay guys>gov buys up all the available supplies>companies get fucked over by gov policies
>>106867081it's not a problem because ever economist insists that service economies and de-industrialization and natural progressions. also comparative advantages, so we just need to have the best fake email jobs and LLM chat bots.
>>106867066November my friend, November. https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/25-250.html
>>106866911>>106866976>>106867011Its compounding systematic political failures that have slowly piled up over the decades without ever being addressed since the fucking 80s. 40 years of issues forming a shit sandwhiches that grows without end. Pic very much related but focused on bong experiences. The differing issues are so intertwined and complex that its going to take decades of effort to course correct, that's only if we even start the process which is hardly guaranteed. Reformation tier restructuring is required
You can literally smash any two atoms together and get another element, why even bother mining "rare" elements?
>>106867119We would need a Great Depression and another Franklin D Roosevelt for this to occur. People are still to comfy with their fake jobs and service industries
>>106867081It isn’t really a political issue, even though the situation was caused politically. Even if you explicitly win on industrial policy and control the entire government nothing ever changes.
>>106866355china just dosen't care if their people die from this, hell they would prefer it, they badly want a population reset
>>106867153>pay a million dollars in energy to make a gram of product because your government doesn’t let you pick up rocks off the ground
>>106866270>Are they evil or dumb anon pls just say evilEvil AND Dumb. Worst of both worlds.
>>106866532>>106866560Rare earths are ironically very common and can easily be bought from almost any country.China has a monopoly on REFINEMENT, which is hard to replace.
its not a mistake, same for why newsome is letting his state fall apart, cheaper land to sell to china, china has been doing the same to canada but canada is complacent
>>106867156>Idolizing FDRThis thread is /pol/tier at this point.
>>106867257>How dare they try to be on good terms with their biggest trading partner who effectively got their economy by the balls? NO! They have to put tariffs on them! That's gonna show 'em!
>>106867326>biggest trading partner who effectively got their economy by the ballsbetter keep this status quo going infinitely, surely!
>>106867326>good terms = intentionally using bad polices to drive down value while somehow getting very rich for itsure...
>>106866193>Why did US allow China to gain a monopoly on it? Are US leaders that short sighted
