What do you think of this concept?
>>106871409I think the concept of my balls in your mouth is appropriate
use case?
>>106871421To be able to post and group replies better spatially
>>106871409Needs more pretentious start up desperately searching for investors vibes.
>>106871409Not retarded enough for /g/.
This just looks like it would use a shit ton of javascript to make just from it's design. Also OP you should post this on other imageboards like Lainchan or Sharty as they might give you more of a discussion.
If I can host it myself I'd consider using it with some friends.Semi-related reminds me of "Browser" that desktop client Anon made. I don't think he ever made a website for it.
>>1068714091. You would only have desktop users2. It looks like it would turn on the jet engines3. spaghetti. 4chan is hard enough to read being able to reply to the entire thread all at oncebut the concept of posting in a graph version of 4chan was something I had thought of some 8 years ago.There's a lot of interesting ways you can visualize the graph if you can analyze the posts.
>>106871493>If I can host it myself I'd consider using it with some friends.I might put it on GitHub after hosting an instance myself first to test>>106871484>This just looks like it would use a shit ton of javascript to make just from it's design.Yes, but that's fine for me>>106871510>1. You would only have desktop usersThat's a benefit>>106871510>2. It looks like it would turn on the jet enginesI fixed that. It only redraws when it needs to and with some more optimizations and OffscreenCanvas or other options it could be fine.>>106871510>3. spaghetti. 4chan is hard enough to read being able to reply to the entire thread all at onceThat's what the "recent posts" is for, you can decide whether or not you want to engage and replying to posts within a thread can be more local. Each page could be a thread, I'm just throwing ideas out.I did brainstorm some ideas for graphs but most of it boiled down to flow of time and forcing harsh constraints may be less what you want actually. Making a graph also works better when posts already have been made. Replying with some time constraint that would duplicate posts to keep the linear flow maybe.
In addition most of the restricting of permissions has to do with trust. If you allow anyone to post images and resize them up to the size of the entire screen then that's clearly what's going to happen. I was thinking of restricting those on per thread basis or making it invite only.
>>106871568just push a base graph and make adjustments client-local?I wouldn't worry about trying to offer anyone a unified experiencePeople are going to want to make their epic post collages after getting like 50 replies>>106871568If you're aiming for desktop users, you may as well take advantage of the fact that 40% of the screen is dead space and make it a collapsible pane containing the "normal" version of the thread that you'd see using 4chan.Yes, you are going to have to add low-weight invisible arrows pointing to previous posts in time, as some people refuse to offer (You)s, and use that in your calculations to generate a post's relative position to other posts.There are also people who quote the entire thread, so maybe the best way is to weigh each explicit reference equally, and make time-relative references more important as the weight of explicit references goes down
Not really related but I'm reminded of this.Someone posted it and I don't remember the rest. Maybe that was it.
>>106871644>just push a base graph and make adjustments client-local?>I wouldn't worry about trying to offer anyone a unified experience>People are going to want to make their epic post collages after getting like 50 repliesYes but it would give different views of the conversation every time and I think that's a worse experience.>>106871644>If you're aiming for desktop users, you may as well take advantage of the fact that 40% of the screen is dead space and make it a collapsible pane containing the "normal" version of the thread that you'd see using 4chan.Great idea I did think of this to split the page down the middle into a regular view and canvas one but I couldn't see the benefit anymore aside from posting and having a kanban like image dump. It would confuse more too.>>106871644>Yes, you are going to have to add low-weight invisible arrows pointing to previous posts in time, as some people refuse to offer (You)s, and use that in your calculations to generate a post's relative position to other posts.I did think of maybe changing order with time or reply count but all of these can be manipulated too. It also complicates things and giving users freedom to place wherever sounds better to me. Optionally I could make a thread like block and distinguish between regular posts which are freely posted and block posts. Order depth by time or even spatially sort and prevent overlap. The issue with that is that the resource then becomes image size and how much space you're using up.
Congratulations on making progress aggy daggy
>>106871409Cute gimmick. But first thought is poor discovery of threads/topics.>>106871493Then you've got Freeform, or whatever other collaborative workspace applications are out there. Now with chat.That said. Don't stop. Get to minimum viable product, release it to the world, and see what others do with it. They'll have ideas/applications that may have never occurred to you.
I was thinking of how you would prevent abuse. Invite only but how do you prevent inviting yourself or abusing that. With a trusted system maybe some score or ELO you could also allow posters to delete other posters their posts. Delete post -1 points or something. Maybe you can prevent invite abuse by requiring two invites for one person from different lineages.
>>106871409I think the 4chan UI is already perfect because Im not a redditor
>>106872236What ifHave 2 blacklists, 1 for invites and 1 for posting, then do tree bans (everyone under the banned inviter gets invite rights taken away).
I like how there's no obvious page/thread/post limit. It's bound only by the area and zoom.Interesting implication, that an instance could theoretically last a long time and contain every post without pruning. Like some text and imageboards do but using coordinates rather than page numbers.You could probably synthesize both too. Like create logic that maps an analog of page numbers to something like a zone on the map so that people could click some anchor/link like "gamer zone" instead of "page 2" and it would jump to a cluster of game related threads that were placed near each other.
>>106872270I think that's too lenient. The other way around of banning the person who invited those too makes people more careful of who they invite.
>>106872236>prevent abuseYou can't.Every social media platform on earth has been trying to solve that problem and they can't do it.Every person is capable of abuse, and allowing them in despite that is the entire objective of a public social network; because the benefit of their presence exceeds the risk that they might say the N word or post illegal content.Most social networks just pay jannies to deal with it because the normal users should far exceed users who are bad for the platform.4chan has jannies do it for free.An especially enlightened approach would be to admit that the best moderator is no moderator, and allow users to moderate themselves. This however, would not fly under a centralized social network because there needs to be a way to remove illegal content.Under a decentralized model, every user is responsible for receiving and distributing their own content.Don't like what someone else is saying? Stop reading it and stop sharing it.Post something illegal? Your problem, not anyone elses.This has some unfortunate drawbacks. Decentralized social networks cannot scale globally.The nature of self-moderation means you cannot open yourself up to the firehose of all users.You have to choose who you want to connect to, which makes the network naturally smaller.
>>106871409Needs "coins" and "likes" or otherwise it'll never be popular. Would also be cool if the right top corner would display advertisements. Three subscription tiers - free (with ads), basic (with reduced ads) and Premium (10 coins for free every month plus selected posts are automatically upvoted).
