What happens if Windows 12 is an online only operating system with a monthly $9.99 subscription?
Then nobody would use it
>>106873994the year of linux desktop
>>106873994Windows user will bitch and moan but open their wallets to pay anyways like good little retards.
One could theorize about how pigs would behave if they had wings, but pigs don't have wings
People would still end up using it.
>>106874003You would be surprised.
>>106873994Don't worry, for $19.99 a month you can get the Pro tier that let's you run it on your own hardware* instead of their servers.>*internet connection required
>>106874003yeah it would probably flop worse than 8
I would pay for it. I play Overwatch 2, Valorant, and Fortnite so I can't use anything else.
>>106873994dude just pirate it bro lol
>>106874010>the year of linux desktophttps://voca.ro/1kpVCUK47uOj
>>106873994I don't use Windows, so I don't care.
>>106873994>What happens if Windows 12 is an online only operating system with a monthly $9.99 subscription?Everyone will switch to Kubuntu
>>106874089If youre already going to be paying a monthly subscription, surely there must be other games youd rather be playing?
>>106873994I would coom
>>106874012Turning me on rn
>>106873994>what if microsoft just decides to give up its entire market share
>>106874075The only reason why it flopped is because microshit didn't force it with constant update notifications like it did with w10 and w11. Now when they know how to force shit in people they can do anything.
>>106874198how naive
>>106874089Are you 14?
>>106874060I can see this happening.
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>>106874089Do you earn money playing that slop or are you just a hopeless addict?
>>106874256I could have in Fortnite I'm close to pro level but my PC could never run the battle royale so I would just play creative instead of doing all the cash tournaments.
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>>106874012I'm thinking that the vast majority of people have never "paid" for Windows. By that I mean that while they have bought computers before, they haven't paid a full, discrete line item that says "Windows" on it. And so I don't think most people will want to pay for Windows, especially now that other OSes are free.
>>106873994Many companies would just pay it (probably at a bulk discount but still a lot) because a lot of corporate/industry software puts DRM on their shit to stop you from using it on "outdated" windows versions (not to mention anything that isn't windows).Average users would probably complain, but they'd eventually succumb to the "PLESEE UPGRADE SAAAR" messages and popups.Besides, they literally "upgraded" a lot of people's machines from 7 to 10 without their consent, if they really wanted to they could just do that.Granted, I think the AI chip will be pushed a lot harder; those copilot+ PCs will probably become the standard for windows going forward. Recall will be on by default and can only be disabled by running a script that breaks the file manager, and you won't be able to turn off onedrive.
>>106874346Seeing how people bend the knee so easily to subscriptions and microtransactions, it doesn’t matter if it isn’t the vast majority, the whole point of doing something like this is to normalize it.Just like a lot people don't know about Torrenting or pirating nowadays, they slowly but surely gain more customers that don't know any better.
>>106873994depends of the rules many would pay for computer display plus audio only star trek holodeck
>>106874346W12 could still be "free" for OEMs while being subscription to customers building their own system or upgrading from W11
>>106873994You will be able to pirate local LTSC version just fine.>>106874010>troonixsome of us need working computers, anon.>>106874012a fair share of us doesn't actually pay for Windows since years. Sure, Windows keeps getting progressively worse since 7 or so, but it works and we can get it for free, therefore alternatives are redundant.
>>106874003dude, it will sell, specially if devs continue to make their software for win and win only. you know people will fork the money over, and by the time the next iteration of win rolls around people will just use the success of the first subscription model as a reason to continue supporting it. "its fine, it just works. i can just use it, you are being dramatic" it is just gonna sell, because instead of banding togheter and making one linux distro that can just do anything microshit can, linux fags would rather keep working on a different distro, if nothing else, for a mather of recognition rather than functionality. like a fucking pride flag hoisted out of their asses.
>>106873994Fuck no. Gamepass is already 30 bucks.
>>106874010I unironically hope people don’t switch to Linux. People complain about muh multiplayer game doesn’t work with the kernel level anti-cheat. I hope these fags waste money for new hardware just to run 11/12. And if they decide to just stay with 10 I hope they all get viruses because of their baby duck syndrome.
>>106873994Then I would move on to either debian or fedora
>>106873994Good luck trying to sell that to corporations.
>>106873994>What happens if Windows 12 is an online only operating system with a monthly $9.99 subscription?Cheaper than Xbox game pass, so I'll pay
>kills gaming>kills latency-sensitive workloads>kills professional workloads>kills all (remaining) trust and goodwill people have in the OS>causes a mass exodus>probably kill PC sales altogetherIt would be pants-on-head retarded which means microjeet might just do it. I'll just point and laugh from afar since I'm using fedora. It would be the unity pay-per-install fiasco all over again. even after they retracted it, people lost trust in unity altogether and they still haven't recovered.
>>106873994ve vill pay ze subbecause ve vill own nozing
>>106873994Why did they skip Windows 9? They'll probably skip from Windows 11 to Windows 20 or something.
>>106873994Reversed engineered local server that routes remote subscription server ip to local server program where it can keep activating
>>106873994it will filter out retards from non-retards
>>106877265I think it partly had to do with shit using "Windows 9" in code to detect windows 95/98 was running.
>>106873994I wouldn't care. I don't use windows.
>>106877156You have ass box gay pass? wtf? why?
It would genuinely be enough to make me switch to Arch or Ubuntu on my daily driver. Bideo gaems be damned.
>>106873994You vill pay ze subscription and you vill like it.End of story.
>>106873994>free tier>only use edge>9.99 tier>you can usee the "offline" features like downloading and saving files
come home, white man.
they will probably not do that its too retarded. seems like a nightmare to handle logistics wise. but /g/, realistically what do you think is the next line of bullshit they will push with 12? free version with even more ads? recall added as default?
>>106876886Linux fags would end up being manipulated by another big player into building up the suddenly-viable windows killer
>>106873994I can't wait to have to run an emulator for a server for an OS.
>>106876995>I hope they get virusesAnon, I run mostly pirated software and run adblock the likes of which the world has never seen the likes of which. All my drives are excluded from being scanned by Windows Defender because I got threw a hissy fit when it quarantined my shit the first time. I am still virus free and if I'm not I haven't noticed anything.
>>106873994We then can all collectively seethe together with most average Janes and Joes. And it may spark The Great Migration to Linux.>>106874012You're thinking of Macfags, retardixcus. Windows users are bitches, and easily put off when you screw them. Macfags get screwed repeatedly but keep coming back for more. crApple has a cult of personality going on around their brand name. You would know this if you weren't so new, techlet.
>>106877948Good for you. I hope you have IoT LTSC though.
>>106873994We'll all just run whatever the enterprise edition is like we have been for the past decade.>>106876995>People complain about muh multiplayer game doesn’t work with the kernel level anti-cheatThis is what sucks about the modern Linux community, especially in the past few months. 20 years ago it was about Linux being its own ecosystem where everything can be modified and freely redistributed, to the point where many of those apps eventually became staples on Windows such as Blender and VLC. Now all anyone gives a shit about is if Linux can run their steamslop, it's more important to get some super accurate Windows compatibility layer happening to the point where you wonder why people don't just run Windows. At least when trannies were taking over the community things were still being kept open sores, but these days I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of the userbase has never compiled anything before so they won't even notice when most of the stuff they're using is nonfree binary blobs five years from now.
>>106876995Didn't read. kill yourself linjeet
>>106878028I do on my other rigs, not my main one. I have 400 tabs in OperaGX that I want to preserver and carry over and that is the cause of my current conundrum. I already ruined a 1TB SSD trying to clone to it so I can afterwards install IoT LTSC ontop of it and copy the the shit from the windows.old folder.
>>106876886There's a reason there was still a massive userbase of XP users even after support ended, same happened with Windows 7 and same will happen with Windows 10.If Windows thinks they can charge the home user a monthly subscriptoon for windows then they are insane, people will just stay on their old windows.
>>106877520Forced ads is an obvious one.
>>106878085>can’t read 4 sentences fornite battlepass
>>106873994Then just use W11 forever
>>106873994Paying a $9.99/mo tax just to avoid lintroons is actually worth it.
>>106873994Major things would happen, OP. Like you becoming a full time homosexual for example.
>>106873994Pay the subscription or you have to view ads to do anything.
>>106878085>muh video gamesGrow the fuck up, manchild
>>106877520Make copilot agentic with no ability to turn it off.>doesn't wait for updates to undo all your settings changes, does it on boot>reorganizes your file system every other day >deletes unrecognized executables >randomly launches apps it thinks you'll want to use
>>106874012/thread
>>106877520you can only install Microsoft approved applications in the app store.
>>106873994>What if windows 12I don't care. I'm still using 10, and the second it no longer meets my needs I'm switching to Debian. If I do use windows 12 it will be on my employer's computer for work purposes, it's not my problem.
>>106876470if you can't get a working computer on Linux than you ar dumber than niggers in africa using and installing Ubuntu.
>>106873994I don't want to use anything with a subscription in it. I will absolutely be switching to Linux.
>>106873994Nothing. This far into the game that'd only be a formality.They do nothing now, they won't do nothing then.
>>106879204this but it wll happen soon with 11. full-blown kernel level DRM on everything
>>106873994nothingi use linux
>>106876886>if only linux was a mega corporation just like microsoft and apple
>>106873994It will happen. I mean surely microsoft didn't develop windows 365 just to people not use it, that is also why there is this push for ARM, they will sell battery life and webcam quality and then they will be like>so your software is incompatible with your computer? Just do everything on a remote server.
winshit cant afford to piss away the embedded market, its the only market that actually pays
>>106873994>what if what if winblows $10 a month!?>privacy invasion, persistent screenshotting and telemetry logging aren't enough to make me try something else, only money>i'm such a useless, lazy, fat, piece of shit that i haven't even tried a single Linux distro using a Ventoy-enabled USB even once.Fucking retard.
>>106878085>Didn't read.post a picture of your hand sir
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>>106873994Windows 12 will probably be good at gaming again, with slightly less bullshit compared to Windows 11.They will roll it out at $9.99/month first, and after backlash, over halve it to $3.99/month, so people think they are getting good deal even though it's still $240 in over 5 year period.
>>106877280Just like windows 10 and 11, you mean?
They are going to call it Windows 2030. It will lamer and gayer than imagined. MS is moving closer to cloud services and enterprise by the second due to all the data center AI garbage, they hardly care about the average home or small business user.
>what happens if I make up a scenario in my head to justify another os/distro war shitpost thread?
>>106877265>Why did they skip Windows 9?Because seven eight nine.
>>106873994Being the resident /g/ Qubeschad, I am glad I don't have to even consider this possibility!
>>106873994I'm using linux so I don't care what microjeet does75% of normies will use it.20% will get a mac.5% will switch to linux
>>106874346The price of Windows is included in the price of every Windows PC you stupid retard
>>106878085>picrelfunny how it's the other way around now
>>106889587>microjeetanon, I...
>>106874003Normies would eat it up.Everyone else >>106874010Only reason it hasn't happened yet is their internal marketing team keep getting test results that consumers would tell them to fuck themselves and gov might actually do something.
>>106890323why is china so low? shouldn't be on par with india given similar population densities and aversion to western software? the hell are they using?
>>106890404same reason as japan: proprietary software. linux has nothing like .exe. you can't sell a disc with a linux program on it that would still work after 2 years. games, interactive shit, drivers, you name it
only reason india uses linux is because for some people that's all they have access to. they're that fucking poor
>>106873994>what are you, poor?
>>106873994It would die because suddenly business users would have to actually pay for licenses instead of pirating it without getting caught like everyone else.The cost monthly would only go up, every company knows this so they'd all just move to an easy LTS linux distro for office work to dodge suddenly having to pay thousands a month in extra fee for office seats.It would be complete retardation, if MS weren't such a terminally incompetent company I'd feel bad for them being essentially forced to maintain the worlds most used OS for free but they're also one of the top 5 most valuable companies on the planet so no.
>>106878085>run linux game>double click, it runsAcross my whole time on linux for the past year I had to revert to an older version of proton in the dropdown box one time. Everything else worked without a hitch and several of my windows friends on crossplay games had more issues than I did.
>>106873994I kms
>>106874096I have never payed for windows, ever
>>106873994OSX dgaf!
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>>106874060>Don't worry, for $19.99 a month you can get the Pro tier that let's you run it on your own hardware* instead of their servers.I prefer Max tier that allows me to run on my on hardware as long as I run my webcam the entire time and allow Microshart AI to use all of my data for AI training and hyper-targeted ads in modal popups.
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>>106873994Only if it comes with daily blowjobs.
>>106886219PFFFT HAHAHA
>>106874394Please tell how you're so fucking dumb that you don't understand why people pay for Netflix and Spotify in the first place. You also are completely unaware of the growing piracy movement now that streaming services are getting worse, literally a growing reverse cut-the-cord movement mirroring the cut-the-cord movement from 2014.
>>106892057Microsuck AI would probably start off with degenerate models and voices like men and ugly women, with each tier of payment you upgrade the voice and suction power and at the highest tier one can turn off the voices and get sucked in peace. Any attempt to physically modify the suction or mute the voices will brick your pc
>>106873994I abandon it and move 100% to Linux.
>>106878067It's sad honestly. Modern linux is just trying to be Windows so hard it's pathetic. Wine and Proton brought a shit ton of normies who don't care about privacy or principles, they just want to console war but with their OS.
>>106874218Perhaps you and I grew up playing Warcraft III. There's a boatload of zoomers who will look fondly at 2016 Overwatch 1.
>>106878085>Linux naturally gatekeeps low IQ, low agency /v/ normgroids from using itUnironically a good thing.
>>106890323I don't believe for a second, that no-one in Australia uses Linux.This map is wrong.
>>106874060Download microsoft classic paint for 3.99/mo. Calculator for 2.99 or both for 6.99!
>>106873994It would be based. This would guarantee that no third worlders would be using Windows, and would make it the de facto white OS. White men aren’t scared of a measly $10 a month
>>106873994if you don't like it then make your own
>>106893992Kek why is the bundle more expensive?
>>106896034Because people can't do math and are retarded.
>>106873994Their market-share will drop by 5 percent.
>>106873994You will pay for it and you will be happy.Like zoomers paying for streaming services because they are too dumb to download it for freeMost people are retarded cattle
