Besides that nearly all consumer and even nas, surveilliance grade hard drives are smr trash (the ones that are described as "cmr" are hidden or hybrid smr), the only ones that are currently unaffected are server hdds which cost a lot more and run really hot.On top of that chia mining and AI boom caused is causing shortages and inadequate pricing not to mention that many "new" drives are actually refurbished (with reseted smart) and heavily worn sold as new. What a fucking shitshot, I can't even believe that back then you could buy nearly any ordinary desktop drive and not worry about things like hidden smr or smart reset after heavy usage. Fuck this shitty timeline
>>106875377>nearly all consumer, even NAS, and surveillance grade hard drives are SMRAre you the OP of this thread?https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106724239>WARNING! Almost all new "CMR" hard drives are actually SMR
>>106875594Yes, I'm planning to make a guide to buying hard drives but in order to keep it short I'd recommend you to NOT buy any hard drive that has more than 1,67TB platter capacity.Unfortunately I've wasted money on WD80EFPX and WD80EDAZ-11CEWB0 (which are the same drives based on HC320 but ruined by WD firmware and turned into smr trash despite being lsited as "cmr", both have severe speed penalties when under heavy loads, the speed is dropping to 40-50mb/s while my other true cmr drives slow down only by 20% max).I decided to compensate it by buying a pair of HUS728T8TALE6L4, HUS722T2TALA604 (native 512 byte, no advanced format which is very good) and HDWQ140UZSVA (also native 512 byte sectors, I couldn't find any 4TB HGST for a reasonable price). The only drives that are somehow paradoxically CMR are WD20EARZ, WD20EFPX and WD23PURZ despite having 2TB per platter but 64mb cache, I tested them when they were 80% full and the speed didn't drop to even 40mb/s.I use HA210 as a system drive and it boots and runs very fast.
>>106875706>I use the HA210 as a system driveDo you use only 7200 RPM drives as system drives? If so, is it because drives with an RPM lower than 7200 are too slow to be used as system drives? Was the cache size a factor in you choosing it?
>hard driveshaven't heard that term in a while. get an SSD, grandpa.
>>106875861cool story, newfag, no one cares
>>106875846No I also have a OS clone on another 5,400rpm drive (WD23PURZ) and it's also pretty fast, cold and quiet (you can also manually turn off the 5min head parking). I'm surprised how they bothered to make a genuine 2TB per platter CMR 2TB drive while the 4-8TB variants are hybrid smr garbage.Cache doesn't matter for a CMR drive because it doesn't rely on media cache (there was a time when hdds had no cache), unlike SMR or SSD it instantly and consequencally writes data on platter tracks, one sector after another, the only thing it fails at is doing several parallel reads/writes. This particular HUS728T8TALE6L4 is a native old school drive with 1TB per platter (low density which reduces head movements and requires less accuracy for reads/writes), native 512-byte sectors without advanced format (4K emulating 512b which can fail sometimes during "read-modify-write" cycles and lose data).
>>106875941>I also have an OS clone on another 5,400rpm drive (WD23PURZ), and it's also pretty fastYou haven't noticed desktop performance being too slow? If so, how does the desktop performance compare to a 7,200 RPM drive?
>>106876052Absolutely not. I had a previous ancient Samsung HD103SI (which died recently) that had 105mb/s max speed and 5,400rpm and even it was enough to load WinXP in about 40 seconds or so.7,200rpm HSGT drive loads my OS 15-20% faster than my WD23PURZ (that moving blue bar in the boot screen doesn't even reach the end before loading the desktop), but WD23PURZ is still fast enough (the boot loading screen last for 3 sec or so).
>>106875861>get an SSD, grandpa.based and this.
>>106876052you have fs cache in main memory. it is piss ass slow at first, but once its warm, it's fine.t. got some cheaped out shit desktop at one job that didn't have an SSD. had to force them to buy me one. it was mid.
>>106875377God I fucking love dolphin shorts. Also hard drives.
>>106876181Oh, here's this Samsung drive which I mourn because it served me so well and it was running nonstop and seeding torrents for 13 years. I should've stop using it and put it on a shelf after cloning because drives that'd last that long aren't being produced anymore.
