They're just going to have to go pound sand.
No authority, simple as.

Orange Reddit discussing it too

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45614148

>>106920868
So they are trying to regulate 4chan based on a regulatory framework that doesn't even exist yet?

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in the end, VISA/Mastercard/PayPal would be all too happy to debank staff at request
save the lawsuit money for that instead

>>106920868
>american law says americans are not subject to UK law
>b-but UK law says that they are
this is gonna drag on for a while isn't it

>>106920868
kek

>>106921028
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
UK gobbirment has a severe case of reptilian infestation as it seems.

>>106921049
it never did, that's why they scrapped it the first few times

>>106920868
I don't understand why they're suing 4chan for not .... uhh doing their jobs for them?
if you want to block your people from viewing it, why don't you?

>>106920957
>>I don't think you can, in fact be jailed for accessing a website in the UK in the first place
>police find loli/shota thumbnails in the browser history and cache
It's very much possible.

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Other foreign entities can already operate in the US so why wouldn't the UK be able to? After all the US seems to have the same ideas in mind. >>106920427

https://efile.fara.gov/docs/7653-Exhibit-AB-20250927-1.pdf

>>106921160
1.) this signals defeat and impotence
2.) the whole framing of this law in the UK hinges on "this is not a censorship law", and blocking websites would contravene their doublespeak (this is more important than most anons realize, and this is why " just block UK users" gives OFCOM more leverage, as they aren't forced to censor directly). Why bother with fines and strongly worded letters at all if blocking websites is the end goal, or an inevitable consequence? They're banking on compliance.
3.) extending my first point, this law currently sits at a precipice in terms of enforcement. i believe a lot of companies are waiting to see what enforcement will look like, and if the UK cannot even enforce against le ebil hacker known as then how the fuck are they gonna justify enforcing this on "normal" websites? other websites and operators may view ignoring the OSA as a response with valid legal precedent
4.) contrary to what most anons are assuming, the goal of OSA is not to create a huge limey firewall, but rather to create precedent for narrative control and censorship abroad. yes, the politicians are actually dumb enough that they think it will be that simple. Again, this is why blocking websites is a last resort for them, because it defeats the entire point of extraterritorial narrative control.

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>>106920868
their power starts and ends at telling their domestic isps to block a website

they have no power to actually get any money they fine a US company with no assets in their country, however, there's a lot of UK assets in the US which can be seized once the countersuit goes through

>>106920868
This was tested in Brazil with great success.
They fined X for being too right wing and when Elon said he wouldn't pay they seized Starlink assets. Despite being the #1 global power in economy and military, the US cucked out and Brazil walked away from it with the extortion money.
If a third world monkey shithole can do it, so can the UK.

>>106921028
>this is gonna drag on for a while isn't it
See >>106921342
It's not, they're gonna fine, seize assets, and sanction people until they comply. The US will sit idly and maybe Marco Rubio or JD Vance will write a strongly-worded tweet condemning it but that's about it.

>>106921358
>>106921342
>They'll seize 4chan's assets in the UK
Oh no!

RapeApe is just incelposting on X, what a pathetic little guy, can't even get pussy
he's 100% spiritually a jeet

>>106921358
>seize assets
which assets do you suppose 4chan has in the uk?

>>106921358
no usa politician is going to be seen defending 4chan, if they had spine they would and toe the "everything people say on 4chan is disgusting but free speech is free speech" line but they won't. I think it will be mostly ignored by the usa and brits will stop posting here (the exception being people who pay for a pass or the small # of people smart enough to get around a block there).

>>106921678
That's a win for 4chan. What the brits think is going to happen is that rather than just ignoring 4chan, the US will force hiroshima to block the UK and possibly force him to pay their fines as well.

>>106920868
The UK government is one of the ones with a disproportionate amount of actual power. An apparent rangeban of the UK would provide an ample legal defense and would be the smart move.

Rangeban british govermental IP address blocks in order to address their concerns and show action was taken to comply.

>>106920935
>No authority, simple as.
They have all the authority they need to carry out the threat they maid. They never threatened to arrest them. They threatened to fine them and if the fines aren't paid, 4chan will be blocked in the UK.

Simple as.

>>106921586
>>106921673
I've never said "4chan", I've said "people". Read:
>they're gonna fine, seize assets, and sanction people
It's supposed to be arbitrary, the UK isn't a free country. In the Brazilian case, for example, they threatened X's lawyers directly - as in the actual person, not the law firm they represented. That's the kind of shit they're gonna do. Maintainers, mods, jannies, and of course their families are gonna be targets.
Even if the 4chan administration is incredibly competent at avoiding this (they aren't), the UK can still go for personal nuisances like rejecting visas and blacklisting them. They can even go harder and start fake accusations in 4chan personnel's home countries, like they did with Assange.

>>106921678
Yeah, this. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely delusional.

>>106921783
>Maintainers, mods, jannies, and of course their families are gonna be targets
Good. Fuck janniies and double fuck bong janniies.

>>106921184
Yes, don't commit cyber thoughtcrime in the UK. You get more time than if you rape children.

>>106921796
true

Ofcom is just going trough with the legal motions, in the end they will just end up blocking 4chan in the UK and that's it, they just have to exhaust all the other avenues first (fine, wait, etc)

They can probably point to things like accepting pass payments from uk cards/crypto exchanges as "doing business in the uk.

>>106920868
What’s their list of targets?
They must have Twitter on the list, possibly google, etc.
I’d just pull out of the country like google did with china.
Everyone in the UK can just start watching re-runs of Coronarion Street.

Impound the jannies paychecks until the fine is paid in full.

i hate this grey, miserable anarcho-tyranny

>>106921226
>DA JOOOOOS DA JOOOOS REEEEEEEE
Let me spell it out for you retard. This isn't UK trying to operate in the US. It's UK trying to regulate in the US

>>106921668
hello, Nudge Unit

>>106921718
4chan is purposefully not blocking UK ISPs because of how the entire legal framework works. The UK can't fine a US based company for something that is happening entirely in the US. What happens technologically is that UK ISPs allow users to send TCP requests to 4chan for information, and that's how the website is accessed. 4chan is not publishing to the UK, they are exposing ports that are accessed.

>>106920868
I got a local parking ticket once. They said that if I don’t pay it, they might tow my car the next time.
I didn’t pay it, and never parked there again.
That was 20 years ago. Nothing happened.

This is like getting a parking ticket for parking in your own driveway by another city.

If they get this through, in any way, it will open the floodgates for all governments around the world to start arbitrarily fining other companies they don’t like by coming up (or making) specific laws to shakedown other companies.

Even north korea doesn’t do things like this, but that’s a smarter, legitimate, more well-established and internationally law abiding government than this one apparently.

>>106922332
>The UK can't fine a US based company
Not only they can, they will.
>b-but the rulebook says you're not allowed to cheat!!
is a very naive way to approach politics.

>>106920868
Why is 4chan so sure America will protect them

>>106922360
>Not only they can, they will.
Okay I'm going to fine you $40,000. Pay up.

>>106922368
the US president would never have been elected if it were not for 4chan

>>106922368
Because think about it like this; 4chan is being fined for not censoring itself. The 1st amendment says they do not; 4chan is constitutionally protected and not defending 4chan is not defending the constitution. There's no way around this, imagine being an american court and going 'yep this UK fine on your free speech rights is actually legal'. Not a chance in hell.

>>106922332
So the UK and ISPs in the UK are, in actual fact, aiding and abetting this situation also having multiple departments set up specifically to attempt to fraudulently steal money?
That explains the whole insistence on the fine.

shouldn't these issues be resolved with the people who sell internet to residents of the UK?
like, why aren't the providers of the access to all this evil webpages forced to deal with it?

>>106922375
Yeah, basically that.
But while telling you "no" won't cause consequences, the UK has efficient organizations for punishing people who don't obey. And they'll use whatever is needed to exercise their tyranny.

>>106922393
Trump is a boomer. He will fuck his base again.

>>106922420
Because the lawmakers wanted it so. It's not about protecting anyone, it's a censorship regulation. It's pressuring big international companies that they can either censor wrongthink or stop operating in the UK. For companies that are not large and do not operate in the UK, it's just a bluff from a rogue police state.

>>106922420
they are. 4chan will be on the blacklist in around 55 days.

>>106922411
See
>>106922360

>>106922433
problem solved?

>>106922425
You owe me money. If you don't pay there will be consequences.

>>106922439
If the UK government does any harm to 4chan through roundabout methods that violate 4chan's constitutional rights, that's so hilariously bad for the UK government that they might as well just cut off diplomatic ties and join BRICS

>>106922447
the tyranny is the problem

>>106922360
Anybody can fine anybody else, and anybody can sue anybody else.
If they sue ofcom in the UK and win, they get their legal fees back I think.
There is also a whole bunch of other things they can get them on, like racketeering.
And, obviously, Trump can give them the 100% Chinese tariffs (or more) if they scale this up.
I don’t think I’ve ever bought anything from the UK though.

>>106922411
>america giving a shit about the first amendment
>america giving a shit about the constitution
lmao

>>106922452
>If you don't pay there will be consequences.
Except there won't, and we both know this. I get you're trying to use a theatrical type of argument but you know there won't be consequences.
>that's so hilariously bad for the UK government that they might as well just cut off diplomatic ties
Nothing will happen to them lol.

>>106922478
>but you know there won't be consequences.
Yeah, exactly.

I support the UK here because it's funny and hopefully makes 4chan worse.

>>106922478
Here's how the play will go:
The UK will keep crying about how it's a real country and it has all the right in the world to fine anyone on the planet for any reason whatsoever and actually receive the money, and 4chan will continue to say no fuck you and there will be no support from any part of the US legal system to actually extract the fine money from 4chan. Time will pass and the UK will order UK ISPs to block 4chan. And that's it.

>>106922474
>If they sue ofcom in the UK and win
lol, I can't believe you guys are this naive. Do you really think UK will lose a trial against themselves for being tyrants?
>Trump can give them the 100% Chinese tariffs (or more) if they scale this up.
He can, but he won't.

>>106922447
No, they will create a stronger, hidden internet using ipsec tunnels. This will become both widespread, hardened against attacks by the government, and difficult to take down.

It’s the same thing when OPEC caused the gas shortage in the 1970s. If they maintained it, the US would develop their own reserves and capacity. And that’s what they ended up doing.

Same with tarrifs. We’re just trading more with china and and that whole capacity with the US won’t just restart overnight. It has a long-term double-negative effect.

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We, The People.

>>106920868
> We know this is not enforceable in any way and are fully aware we are being retarded
> We will continue to punch the air

Fucking retards in that government. Why don't they mandate everyone in the UK wear a helmet while they're at it? You know, just in case?

>>106922547
That's one good thing about this slow boil approach to censorship, is it gives people time to ramp up countermeasures before it becomes 100% necessary. I've been looking up what the chinese and russians do to evade their police state overlords, and it mostly relies on mimicing HTTPS traffic. I think the most advanced one is tunnelling traffic through a fake-HTTPS server; where it connects to an external server in a real country, does a fake TLS handshake with a pubkey and domain that's known and 'allowed' like facebook or google or something, ignores the error, then uses that TLS tunnel to handshake a real TLS connection and then lets you tunnel through that. That way, DPI inspection of the handshake just sees that you're connecting to facebook or whatever and lets it through.

https://archive.org/ is also blocking the UK now

The Wayback Machine says bye bye to the UK

>>106921260
4chan is basically saving the world from tyranny

>>106922625
based
Sites should either block the UK or ignore the fines. Anything else is cowardice.

>>106922631
By literally banning millions of users for their entire lives without trial no appeal.

>>106922278
Where did I say anything about Jews?

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>>106922564
It's just standard British arrogance
The British Museum had a bunch of jewelry and other shit stolen out of it and being sold on ebay
A Norwiegian professor saw these listings and contacted the Museum about it
He was basically to fuck off this could never happen to us
Two Years later they found out a bunch of shit really was missing
Then it turned out they haven't indexed thousands of items at all
The head of the museum is fired
Nobody will ever know how much shit disappeared

>>106922687
>German head
it was revenge for Dresden

>>106920868
>Participate in a specific market
>Shocked that you have to follow the market's laws
Retards shouldn't be allowed to post online

>>106922966
Ok then go ahead and block 4chan from the uk. What are they waiting for?

>>106923023
First you need to punish the perpetrator of a crime, you wouldn't let someone steal your car and just tell him to stay away from you, right?

>>106923023
They want to get a bit of money out of it first.
In fact, they are desperate for it.

>>106923023
they will, they are just following the legal procedure
have to tick all the boxes first before they take action, it's a british thing

>>106921216
Why don't britbongs just uhhh "go islam style" on them bobbies innit?

>>106921718
>UK Government
Bank of England more like.

>>106923061
That’s just stupid.
They have said that they have no intention of paying the bogus fine, and they are not going to comply with whatever they want (at this point, their demands will increase depending on the success of this “test the waters” case).

They should go ahead and issue arrest warrants and searches and seizures, since ofcom is not subject to UK law or their own court system.

>>106923136
Really it's just theater. Instead of banning 4chan cause they don't like it, they can gaslight the general populace that they had to ban the bad outlaw site for breaking laws (that are for your, and your children's, safety!).

also an attempt at forcing a humiliation ritual ofc they love those.

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>>106920868
>We do not accept this point.

>>106921783
None of that shit is the effective in the least. The only thing that matters is fucking over the person with the reigns. Bongland can't do that here, so nothing will happen.

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>>106923098

>>106920868
on one hand, they could easily ban 4chan by telling british ISPs to blackhole 4chan.org DNS records. on the other hand... do the owners of this website, and its lawyers, even know what a DNS server or record even is?
this is fucking retarded. why even waste money on lawyers for this? 4chan could just have not answered.

>>106922966
>participate in specific market
What participation

>>106923282
Dutch Merchants?

>>106923296
You seem to forget this place is run by retarded fags

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>>106920868
>We do not accept this point.

>>106923280
Yeah, that's why in warfare soldiers don't shoot each other right? "The only thing that matters is fucking over the person with the reigns" and all.

>>106923296
The only way 4chan could have answered better is by “accidentally” putting every ofcom zogbot’s full dox on the farms and letting nature handle the rest

>>106923394
are you joking, retarded or just pretending? we are not the personal army of 4chan staff, and they are cowards so they won't do shit.

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>>106923136
No, it's actually quite clever. Dragging out the legal process to make it look like they gave the site every opportunity to act lawfully suits their narrative. If they just banned it immediately, people would ask pesky questions and they don't want that. Going through a long and laborious legal process bestows legitimacy on their actions. They can then fast track the process in the future once the public have been placated.

4chan is also a perfect choice of first target, since practically nobody is going to step up and defend the evil Nazi incel terrorist website. I've heard what normies think of this place regularly and they'll celebrate it being blocked. Once it's done they have a standing mandate to go after any site they like, and the public will be too apathetic/distracted/stupid to notice, or care if they do.

>>106922785
That was jews though.

>>106921342
what assets does 4cuck have in the US?

>>106920935
>pound sand
And touch grass?

>>106921783
>Maintainers, mods, jannies, and of course their families are gonna be targets.
There is no law in the UK that holds the family of criminals liable for the crime of the criminal.

4chan will simply ban UK mods and problem solved. You can still use pass

>>106922375
this

>>106922360
make that £80,000 or your bussy being fucked by niggers live on air. Which ever is higher.

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>>106920868
>You have to follow our laws because our laws says you do

>>106922425
Bong here. This is bullshit. We don't have money for that shit. We're not gonna spend £100k+ to suck blood from stones.

>>106922675
>>106922278
Anon, i was thinking about the long noses, but just like the other anon i too thin you are mistaken and while the UK is in its current state because of Jewish intervention, I have grown old and wise enough with the years to know that British people are like 5 times more responsible for the state of the UK than the jews. yes, this is a pro-jewish statement ... the Uk is so bad.

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holy based

>>106923389
>unrelatable anaolgy
Why do people unironically do stupid shit like this?

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>>106922474
>I don’t think I’ve ever bought anything from the UK though.
how can you buy anything made in the UK?

Factories closed in 80s and 90s with some of the more sophisticated ones living till the 10s.

Its impossible to have a service economy because of all the bullshit laws so no IT or software or any services last long

OH AND EVEN ACCENTURE AND BANK OF ENGLAND ARE FIRE-ING PEOPLE - even the sector of printing money is in downfall.

There are no products made in the UK anymore and soon even the last successful business - printing money will go the way of the Dodo.

>>106923389
Are you retarded? Warfare is about seizing land. Soldiers protect the land. You kill the soldiers, you take the land. This fucks over the former owner of the land.

if they have no assets in UK to seize, they will never pay the UK a cent. all the UK can do is tell ISPs to block them

>>106923560
you don't get it, they don't care, they will just block 4chan, in fact just blocking it is probably the easiest thing for them, they are just following process
and then they will make coinbase (4chan uses this for crypto payments) and any other company that has business in the UK also drop 4chan
and they will, because any big company with business in the UK doesn't care about a small neet website

>>106923604
>>106922474
>U.S. goods imports from the United Kingdom in 2024 totaled $68.2 billion, up 6.2 percent ($4.0 billion) from 2023
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/united-kingdom

>>106923616
>Are you retarded? Warfare is about seizing land
Warfare is diplomacy by other means, retard. Read a book.

>>106923636
I don't believe it. I literally will just call it fake news. What exactly can the UK possibly make ? do they sell rain water or cow dung?

>>106923633
>they don’t care so hard they’re suing in DC
brainlet

>>106923489
>christkikes unironically believe this
sad

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>>106923646
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/united-kingdom

>>106923600
I'm sorry you're slow.
The analogy points to the fact that yes, attacking supporters not only works, but is the de-facto way of handling conflict. "Fucking over the person with the reigns" is far from a plan.
Hope that clears it up for you!

>>106923665
fake news. the only thing the UK makes for now is printing money and all of this is just some fake news. the UK looks like a south african country where only the money printers work and goo BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>106923672
>its fake news because uhhh…. drumpft help me!

>>106923665
>>106923672
just look at your fake news list: the uk produces minerals and nuclear reactors and shit? you believe this?

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why is it that every government agency that has a fucking retarded name like Sovnarkom does stupid faggot shit

>>106920868
are people in this board really this ignorant? are we talking to retarded students? to bots?
the US has banned multiple countries through DNS records, and the FBI has even overtaken some servers for being "criminal", even torrent websites...

do retards in this board even know how the world wide web works?

>>106923647
nta but have you ever heard of extraterritorial laws? the US does it against all "enemy" countries, including small islands like cuba.

>>106923684
no, because the UK looks like a shit place on every street you see. Its a shithole and looks like a shithole. It looks like India and I bet has the same economy as a smaller India if you remove all the fake numbers.

>>106923701
Okay, why isn't the UK doing that to 4chan? Instead they're fining them for not censoring themselves whilst being accessible to British peoples

>>106921226
>>106921322

I suppose the UK can't make a US business with no presence in the UK pay fines
and I suppose 4chan can't do anything to a sovereign country
the will just ban this site in the UK, not much more to it

>>106923712
except it doesn’t lol
nobody drop a pin on New York or Chicago though, because that doesn’t count!

>>106923725
are u british, or hindu?

>>106923729
I am Welsh.

>>106921028
It doesn't have to drag on at all if the 4chan lawyer simply calls out the OFCOM's legal rep stupidity, the UK's laughable overreach, and then begins to berate, lambast, insult, and emotionally terrorize the OFCOM representation in as many ways possible.

>:
"Your implied demand that your laws apply to any and all other sovereign entities is a mad child's tantrum.
Try that in Argentina."

>>106923724
>the will just ban this site in the UK, not much more to it
I think the UK doesn't want to do that or they simply would have?
And 4chan doesn't want to block the UK and they can't be forced to do so, right?
So we're at an impasse there

>>106923750
so a sheep? why the fuck would I take the opinion of a grass eating animal?

>>106923081
Because what you're seeing in that pic is the penultimate result when a nation becomes disarmed.
It's penultimate, because the only last step is the government enforcing their status quo by using violence on the otherwise defenseless people.

>>106923760
Or they're just going through the check list of the Ofcom procedures so they can declare 4chan non-compliant and block it

>>106923782
I'm not suggesting anyone attempt to internationally sue what is in effect the entirety of the UK gov, but it would be funny if someone with the financial means sued the UK back simply to create a case law that, you can't fucking demand your laws apply to my laws, shut up and go away.
I'm betting a vast, vast majority of the world would support it.

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>>106923763
>why the fuck would I take the opinion of a grass eating animal
im glad you mentioned them

4chan lawyer is gonna regret doing this pro bono, this shit is gonna drag for like 5 years and he will be working for free like a janny for nothing
there's no big payout at the end

>>106923804
I bet the guy is bitcoin rich + being a lawyer, and fighting for the sanctity of the 1st amendment is his rason d'etre. It pays for itself

>>106923804
sucks not being able to do anything else while you simply say, "no" to the UK government.

>>106920868
4chan is better at controlling "illegal content", by which I mean child pornography, than damn near every other site because there is literally nowhere to hide.

I can't PM people, posting your email gets you trolled (and banned), discord/kik/telegram invites get you banned, I can't make my own secret club private board, there are no user accounts, and anyone posting illegal content gets reported and smacked with the banhammer at lightning speed.

>>106923756
That’s basically what they already did. The first response 4chan gave cited the Treaty of Paris (the one that ended our revolutionary war) as evidence that the US and UK are not the same sovereign entity
>>106923798
anon that’s what 4chan and the farms are literally doing right now. It’s fucking hilarious to watch

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>>106920868
this is how its going to be then?
we respond, uk responds with fairy tale shit
back and forth and back and forth

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>>106923701
>banned multiple countries through DNS records.
Cite sources faggot.

>>106923713
did you try reading this fucking thread, you brainlet? they are following the procedure. they gave 4chan a notice and 4chan reacted like a rich but retarded children.
they will just tell ISPs to block 4chan. that's all. do you think that's something difficult to do?
are you tech illiterate?

It's all very funny and bravado but I don't think just saying "no" is all there is to it, companies and countries sue each other internationally all the time and they win and lose.

>>106923849
think of this way: if 4chan wins, the country of the UK will lose another war and be once again made the fool of. If this does not make you want to go and fight the british in a holly war crusade about freedom, idk what will.

SCOOTLAND FOREEEVER!!!!
4CHAN FOREVEEEER!!!!

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>>106923891
It is though.

>>106923666
>generalizes his subject groups in order to stretch the premise of his analogy
It's always something retarded like this lol
Most analogies that can be made are complete shit for anything but emotional appeals, which should be expected for any topic that is primarily technical.

>>106923701
>the US has banned multiple countries through DNS records
I meant to say websites, not countries

>>106923881
OK, I couldn't find any. on the other hand, here's a list of sites that have been seized (not just blocked) by the US:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Domain_name_seizures_by_United_States

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>>106923883
>be uk retard
>has to install gmod and download fake ID so he can pass age verification without giving his real name - all of the good leaked IDs are provided by hackers.... because they are real IDs.
>has to use VPNs - residential ones at that, that are all provided by hackers ...
>even the ISPs probably provide shit so the UK retard has to go to hackers again to get good internet
>in order to work, the UK retard either has to work illegally under the table or get digitl ID ...
>the police will do jack shit about some nibba getting in your home illegally, but warlords will go and kill that nigga if you pay them....
So: you need hackers to provide you with cervices, warlords to provide you with police force, shady businessmen to provide you with work ( you will not pay taxes to the state but get a lower slary from the shady businessman... so a tax to him )

Explain to me how the UK is already nto a failed state? Even the muslims use their own courts. All UK institutions have already been replaced by warlords, hackers, shady businessmen, jihadis.......

hello children, countries are bound by various market and commercial treaties that regulate all this stuff & much more, yes it is entirely possible to make a company in another country pay damages
I think this lawyer is a fag and should approach this much more carefully, there might just be a line or two in one of those treaties and fucks his shit up

>>106923953
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-Soon_leak
Oh no, not those poor....
State sponsored malicious hackers!

My freedoms have been violated!

lmao get out of here you pajeet nigger

>>106922625
Orwell is rolling in his grave. Destroying access to historical evidence

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>>106923956
oh also, you need medical services? you either pay to private doctors or wait for 5555 years to get the ability to visit a NHS hospital where much worse staff will tell you to go home and wait more.

The UK has no hospital services too: the hospitals, police, courts, jobs, services have all been replaced by the private sector and the state offers what????? Roads???

I tell you what niggas: the UK does NOT exist as a cuntry.

>>106923964
>takes one example completely out of context
>celebrates having "won" the discussion
learn some basic logic, RETARD

meanwhile, the US literally keeps trying to block z-library and anna's archive.
oh, you don't know what anna's archive is? I'm not surprised. your jewish-owned country won't let people have ACTUAL FREEDOM.

>>106923883
great so there's nothing wrong with 4chan's response

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>>106922625
>>106922640
>>106923982
lying for what purpose?

>>106923997
>out of context
LMAO kill yourself you retarded little faggot.

>>106923957
they won't pay a shilling Nigel
you will be forced to block them and your children will use a VPN to read anti-mohammedean "propaganda" as if they're Chinamen

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>>106920868
For UK votefags, have you ever questioned how this benefits yourselves as the people?

>>106924002
>there's nothing wrong with 4chan's response
it's useless and a complete circus. and retards who buy passes are paying for it lmao

>>106924011
>can't even have a discussion based on logic and arguments
what's the context of this thread, you brainlet? the context is BLOCKING FREE SPEECH.
what's anna's archive? unlike most other sites in that list, they are NOT CRIMINALS.

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>>106924028
quiet

the zoomers want it this way

in fact they don't feel it goes far enough

they want even more restrictions

>>106924028
we didn’t vote for this

>>106921342
I doubt 4chan has anything to seize outside the US

>>106921775
Oh no, no more bongs shitposting. Sounds like a problem for them, not for 4chins.

>>106921342
they just want the site blocked
they opened up several investigations into sites
all those investigations get dropped when the site blocks the uk
they literally stop giving a shit close the investigation and don't bother them any more
it's not about the money
it's just about getting sites blocked in the uk
they'd rather the site block the UK because it's a faff getting the legal block for it
but they will if they have to
it's just about getting the sites blocked
as soon as sites block the uk ofcom drops their investigations
as soon as sites block the uk ofcom drops their investigations
as soon as sites block the uk ofcom drops their investigations

>>106924028
>implying we voted for this
We also didn't vote for our country to be flooded with thirdworlders. Labour and the Conservatives are functionally a uniparty following the same agenda, and they're both filled with neoliberal Blairite technocrat globalists... also known as traitors.

>>106921342
4chins has no UK assets. There is nothing to seize.

>>106924039
Complete transformation into serfdom based on fear. The nature and source of the imposed fear is irrelevant, but simply that the fearing serfs want to be ruled over by an iron fist.

The only thing more pathetic is electing for a doctored suicide.

>>106924033
Fuck off you malignant cunt.

>>106921775
>4chan will be blocked in the UK.
4chan uses cloudflare so good luck with that.

>>106924104
>malignant cunt
you are fucking retarded. imagine believing that describing reality and how things work means you are defending

you are fucking stupid. get a working brain or actually kill yourself, you metally ill faggot

>>106924101
they can get their accounts locked down and funds seized. London is the second biggest financial hub in the world.

>>106921783
4chins staff does it for free. If they can't because they're a ukuck that's their problem. I doubt mootwo will care.

oh this will be very easy
uk just blocks 4chan and then says cloudflare must also drop 4chan to continue to do business in the uk
rip 4chan

>>106924108
You are a maligned faggot and your points serve no purpose other than complaining and spewing noise to the effect of rousing your ego.

Eat sand.

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>>106924116
Worth it. If 4chan can die on a noble hill of exposing britfaggotry and cloudflare it'll have served a purpose.

>>106924104
>>106924108
actually, nevermind. ignore what I said about killing yourself. you are so fucking stupid, you will probably throw yourself from a 10th floor after thinking "laws of physics are fake, I will fly whenever I want to" so please go on with your life.

>>106924128
>your points serve no purpose other than complaining
lmao, you really are stupid. you even lack self-reflection. like, not even a single drop of self-awareness. I bet you vote or would vote Trump if you could kek
I wonder, how did you even manage to learn to read and write?

>>106924114
Only if those accounts are tied to the UK in any way. Otherwise they can pound sand. This whole thing is a nanny state based regulatory group's temper tantrum because someone dared to tell them to fuck off.

US businesses can get bent. Half my country is rotten and hollowed out, all the shops replaced by Amazon. Screw them. Uber wants to come over here and put our local cabbies out of work, then bring them all back on lower wages with higher fees. Screw off. Air B&B destroys affordable housing all across Europe and turns cities into tourist hell. Oracle comes over here and they're trying their damnedest to get their hands on our valuable NHS data. Facebook (now Meta) comes over here and shows horrific content to young children, wrecking the mental health of teens, especially young girls. Twitter (now X) wants to pollute my country's politics with American fascist nonsense while its owner promises to donate hundreds of millions to far right political parties across the content.

I don't want any of these “services” thank you very much. Inflict them on your own people, not us.

American technology companies operate by finding technological solutions to evading the law, then counting on being too big to fail once regulators catch up. These companies do not provide innovative products, they abuse monopoly power to dominate industries. The Chinese are smart enough to make their own versions of all this stuff so that they aren't under the US yoke and I want the same here (sans the dictatorship of course). I want to replace every horrid US machine with something FOSS or publicly owned, and every regulatory step towards that is a win in my book.

Maybe instead of turning your nose up at other countries that dare to regulate your tech overlords, you should try to get your politicians to do the same thing. Get fucked, get banned, don't care.

>>106924149
what are you going to do, call the UK bobbies on me for telling you to commit suicide for the 3rd time?
what are they going to do, fly over here and knock on my door?

your points are retarded, your purpose is obvious, and I'm not allowing you to attempt your intended manipulations of the conversation.
Get over it. Or don't, maybe try that KYS thing.

the gall of some godless, weaponless, faggot

>>106924154
you don’t understand international cooperation, trade agreements and treaties, and it shows.
foreign seizures and lockouts are done every day.

>>106924172
Seems you don't understand how little power the ukuck has these days. Nothing will come of this.

>>106924163
answer my question, you stupid zoomer

>>106924193
I may be a zoomer but at least I'm not some stupid juice

>>106924186
you’re coping hard
did you forget the UK is the US’s number 1 strategic partner or something?

>>106924172
>foreign seizures and lockouts are done every day
And it always requires the cooperation of the “foreign” nation. In our case that would be the Trump administration, who has already publicly called Starmer a censorious faggot that needs to cut this shit out. The state department will look at the asset seizure request, pass it around the office for a good laugh, and then toss it in the shred pile, and maybe Trump makes a post about how stupid the whole thing is. You’re insane if you think anything more will come of it

>>106924218
is the implication here that the US/UK defense agreements are jeopardized by some drunkard going on 4chan and making muzzie jokes?

UK can just bribe Trump with a couple mil to shut 4chan down and arrest RapeApe and all the mods for whatever reason, it's no big deal

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oi m8 you got a free speech license

This board is full of brainlets and schizos. This shit is really sad...

Imagine talking about this and not knowing what DNS even is.

Why am I even arguing with these retards...

>>106924116
Cloudflare is the largest antiddos site in existence, the UK dropping Cloudflare would open many UK based websites to obliteration if they were fucking stupid enough to hold Cloudflare's feet to thefire and they refused to drop 4chan. The UK has much more to lose than either 4chan or Cloudflare in this instance.
The fuck the UK gonna do, force every single site within their borders to switch to Akamai and risk the devastation in between?

>>106922476
I want to call you names for your asinine dismissive posts but I will refrain from it

>>106924254
no retard, they will tell cloudflare
>drop 4chan or we will seize your assets
they’ll just nationalize all of the cloudflare infrastructure in the UK under proceeds of crime.

>>106924233
this
uk has enough money to bribe the trump administration
4chan doesn't have enough money to bribe the trump administration
uk wins

>>106924254
> akamai
No, they’d get a deal with huawei.

>>106920868
Future historians will remark about how World War Three was not started in the middle east, nor by Russia, but by the UK going to war over, of all things, a corporation called "4chan." ;)

>>106924269
Yeah steal assets, that'll look great. The UK can barely run their own crime report sites, and you think they have the capacity to prop up Cloudflare's assets themelves? Fucking kek.

They are stating that companies operating in the UK and providing services to UK individuals, are required to conform with UK regulations in relation to those services, under UK law.
As an American business, you can choose to ignore that, but that has consequences if any of your board of directors ever sets foot in the UK.
The US does this, and US lawyers understand this. If I open an online poker and sports bookmaking site in the UK (where such sites are completely legal), and take business from all over the United States thereby breaking federal law, I can expect to be met at the plane door the next time I take a shopping trip to NYC. Arguing that my servers and my business are located in the UK is not going to impress the federal judge I'd appear in front of in the morning. Stating the US laws against my activities have a snowball's chance in hell of being enforced in the UK is surely going to risk me being charged with contempt.
The Online Safety Act is ridiculous on many levels, but in the same way that Google does certain things in relation to Tiananmen Square searches in China, and every tech company engages in regulatory alignment for the entire Middle East, the UK has asked that US companies do certain things in the jurisdiction of the UK. I'd argue, less harmful and egregious things in some respects.
Should the UK do this? No, probably not. I think it will just make VPN software vendors richer, and UK citizens - particularly children - barely any safer.
Are Ofcom claiming jurisdiction in the US? No, they're claiming jurisdiction in the UK. Which, I hasten to add they are legally required to do by the Online Safety Act, by the government they are an agency of. If they didn't, the government would literally be breaking its own law.
TIL that 4chan's lawyer is about as grown up, mature and able to engage in critical thinking about the law as the people who post on his client's site.

>>106921299
>their power starts and ends at telling their domestic isps to block a website
but implementing a firewall would look bad for them. it's more lucrative for them to get a say in things, and request data about their citizens trespasses, rather than flat out blocking them

>>106924301
Obviously the mod team has no interest in stepping foot inside the UK anytime in the near future and likening 4chan to an online casino is laughable.

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4chan administrator is already asking elon musk for a job
I don't think this is gonna go well for 4chan, the rats are already leaving the sinking 4chan ship

>>106924116
Honestly, 4chan should get ahead of this and switch to kiwiflare already

I feel sorry for the brits being such a cucked society

>>106924133
>average /k/ user

>>106924423
The British government actually gives a shit about things like extremism and child safety. It's the US that's run by pedophiles and fascists.

>>106923643
And those "other means" are destroying or stealing things that matter to people in charge in the other country. Destroying shit they don't care about isn't effective.

>>106924465
literally this, we still don’t have the epstein list

>>106924465
this, the US is a fascist state where people are kidnapped off the streets by masked thugs, students are disappeared from universities for criticizing israel, the potus is just taking bribes and doing crypto scams and corruption all over the place, etc
the US has 0 moral authority to stand on, you have no freedom nor free speech, you are more like a banana republic nowadays

>>106924465
Henry has been all but caught red handed and your entire government covered up a chimo ring because they were brown for years. We might not be a shining example of justice but you're sure as fuck no better.

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>>106923953
Seizing a US hosted domain for hosting illegal content isn't the same as DNS filtering sites in other countries. There is no mechanism for them to do this.

>>106923330
Sellings ads to the participants and selling passes

>>106924287
Rishi Sunak would not have allows this to happen

>>106920957
>anglos astroturfing orange reddit thread with <30 day old accounts
They need to accept that they're the USA's bitch and settle down. Tired of these brain dead motherfuckers acting like parental controls that already exist on their devices don't work.

>>106924523
> kidnapped off the streets by masked thugs, students are disappeared from universities for criticizing israel
…oh wait, that’s the uk

>>106924543
>Seizing a US hosted domain for hosting illegal content
such as adult content being accessible without age verification? you mean that kinda illegal?
so the UK can just do a domain seizure then

>>106924465
props to them for what they do right. that doesn't mean you're not calling them out on their bullshit.

>>106924567
nope, that’s literally the US with Trump’s antisemitism initiatives and ICE thugs kidnapping mothers from their children

>>106924549
isn't it ad companies pay 4chan, not UK citizens?

>>106924523
But enough about Yuropoors...

>>106924599
>Sure, we might have billboards in your country but we get paid by ad companies so we are exempt from your laws

>>106924604
see: >>106924598

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>>106924465
lmao

>>106924465
>child safety
Shame about all those grooming gangs. Sorry, refugee comfort girls.

>>106924608
it's not in their country. it's the equivalent of bongs looking at France through binoculars and seeing ads on french land. they shouldn't look, or come here. UK can block the view so they don't see the ads through their telescope.
on the street they're invasive, you have no choice. but nobody is forcing bongs come here and see the ads.

>>106924598
Well clearly they are """kidnapping""" the children too, aren't they!? If not, then they need to step up their game.

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK.

>>106924647
>it's not in their country.
Oh, so the ad is statically chosen and the same for all visitors regardless of where they come from?
>Ignores the part about the 4chan pass

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>>106924652
>that’s europe
>umm well actually its us lol you have to go back *slups 32oz on walmart scooter*

>>106924671
The left can't meme. Same as.

>>106924680
where’s the unredacted epstein list bud?

>>106924664
>>Ignores the part about the 4chan pass
>We currently accept
Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Dai, Dogecoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, and USDC.
how know who pays?

>>106924695
>We accept KYCed, transparent crypto currency
>How are we supposed to know who might have used it?!

>>106924731
you can trace them after the fact, but you cannot do that for everyone paying for a fucking pass. at least that's how I understand it. 4chan doesn't get a driver's license copy of whoever is paying with crypto lmao
but if you do some shit with that crypto, it can be traced back to you. how do you not understand the difference between these two facts?

>>106924543
>isn't the same as DNS filtering sites in other countries
are you guys retarded? who the fuck is saying they will block 4chan globally? they will tell ISPs to block blackhole 4chan through DNS. that's exactly what every other country in the world does. in fact, seizing domains is way more malicious

again, are you all tech illiterate?

>>106920868
wake the fuck up ukunt, these subhumans are killing your country, you were ruling the world just 100 years ago alongside france, the fuck happened to you? I don't understand the current general apathy, baguettes and ukunts are genetically engineered to rule the world, why are you letting betacucks dictating what you can and can't say online while marmoud rape gang is thrashing your women with the help of the gvt?

>>106924760
>you can trace them after the fact,
Yes, in mere seconds
>but you cannot do that for everyone paying for a fucking pass.
You're absolutely retarded
1. Get payment
2. Check wallet
3. If wallet is associated with guy from across the pond, return the amount and say 'We don't do business on chewsday innit bruv'
>how do you not understand the difference between these two facts?
How do you not understand that 4chan doesn't do anything to make sure UK citizens can't access their content and that they profit off people accessing this site?

>>106924789
why should 4chan pay extra to make sure no bong is buying their shit instead of UK banning this website for bongs?
you keep avoiding this simple question, why isn't UK banning 4chan in UK? answer this without fucking around and changing the subject (you will avoid it)

>>106924809
>why should 4chan pay extra
I'm not even sure how much this client tracing would even cost, for each and every single fucking pass sold. this is fucking crazy lmao

>>106920868
The UK getting banned is going make 4chan look more retarded because of the amount of shitskins who press enter once for a schizo reason.

These were posted by Changs, Jeets or Pinoys:
>>106920971
>>106921049
>>106921028
>>106921160
>>106921260
>>106921358

>>106924809
>why should 4chan pay extra to make sure no bong is buying their shit instead of UK banning this website for bongs?
Because if you participate in a market you should follow its rules. If you do not abide the laws given in a market the watchmen of the market should demand you to pay damages and a fee on top to deter other potential perpetrators. If laws aren't enforced, they mean nothing.
>you keep avoiding this simple question, why isn't UK banning 4chan in UK?
>>106923038
>answer this without fucking around and changing the subject (you will avoid it)
I never changed the subject you absolute fucking retard. From the very beginning I told you you are wrong and answered all of your retarded fucking questions. Every time you only picked up half of my responses and just let the other half stand there because you have no response

>>106924845
>fully avoids addressing why UK doesn't ban 4chan in UK
I predicted this.
again, why doesn't UK ban 4chan access from UK? this is a simple question, you should be able to directly address it.

>>106924845
>Because if you participate in a market you should follow its rules.
what are the rules not being followed here? the crypto 4chan accepts is legal and authorities can trace the funds if the need be.
I guess this kind of owner tracing is expensive and requires some resources, cannot be simply done by 4chan at transaction time because 4chan doesn't have those kinds of resources. I don't think anyone does this shit, anywhere. I never saw this as a requirment, trace the owner of the crypto before the transaction happens. that's fucking insane.
can you please share this "market rule" so I see it? you imply 4chan is breaking this market rule

>>106924845
>if someone from the uk accesses your website then that's your fault
No, that's fucking retarded. Should north korea fine 4chan because someone insulted kim jong un? 4chan has no assets or business with the uk.

>>106924863
>>fully avoids addressing why UK doesn't ban 4chan in UK
Because you first need to punish them, I said it three times now you absolute buffoon.
>>106924863
>you should be able to directly address it.
Just tell me how many more times I need to say it while you *still* ignore half of my posts even when I engage with you moving goal posts.

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>>106924582
This isn't going to happen, moron. I like how /g/tards are some of the most legally illiterate people on the planet. Probably europoor unable to understand burger legal system and too lazy to actually read laws.
>>106924776
When did I imply this? Can you read? I was imply replying to someone claiming the US did this.

>>106924879
>Because you first need to punish them
what? for what? just ban what is illegal in your country.
if fentanyl is illegal in the UK, you block the sellers access to the clients innit? as in you do not allow fentanyl sellers on UK soil selling to their clients. so why don't they ban 4chan in UK if it's illegal?

>>106924892
>what? for what?
For breaking laws in a market they participate in. If you don't enforce your laws they mean nothing.
>just ban what is illegal in your country.
Being a pushover doesn't get you far in life. If there's no punishment there's no reason not to commit a crime you wanted to commit anyway.
>if fentanyl is illegal in the UK, you block the sellers access to the clients innit?
After putting them in jail

>>106924918
WHAT MARKET RULE DID THEY BREAK???

>>106923665
That's like less than a single day worth of bitcoin purchases the USA makes. A drop in the ocean.

>>106924918
They do not participate in that market.

>>106924925
Sweaty did you forget which thread you're in?

>>106924938
See >>106924549

>Yes, a seller can trace the owner of cryptocurrency to some extent, as all transactions are recorded on a public blockchain. However, while wallet addresses are visible, they are not directly linked to personal identities unless additional information is available.
>https://coinpaper.com/3436/how-to-trace-bitcoin-address-owners-the-path-to-identity-tracking
>The anonymity associated with Bitcoin transactions is a fundamental aspect of the cryptocurrency's framework; however, it also creates difficulties when there is a need to identify the individual linked to a Bitcoin address. In contrast to conventional banking systems, Bitcoin does not automatically associate personal identities with their transactions or addresses.
so 4chan has to conduct criminal investigations by querying crypto exchanges to give up the personal details of their customers, so 4chan can tell if their bri'sh or not. holy nonsense entitlement

>>106924953
but you are wrong on passes because 4chan cannot tell the nationality of the crypto owner, and crypto exchanges do not freely give up the identities of their customers. you're technical understanding of how crypto works is that of a boomer who is on the internet for the first time
moreso 4chan is paid by ad companies probably google ads or some shit if I had to guess

>>106923160
Exactly. No one asked them to ban 4chan so they need to invent a reason.

Trump should fine every UK website $1 million dollars per day until the act is repealed

>>106924963
>so 4chan has to conduct criminal investigations by querying crypto exchanges to give up the personal details of their customers, so 4chan can tell if their bri'sh or not. holy nonsense entitlement
Your source thinks BTC is anonymous, try harder

>>106924988
>but you are wrong on passes because 4chan cannot tell the nationality of the crypto owner
Wrong
>and crypto exchanges do not freely give up the identities of their customers
Also wrong
>you're technical understanding of how crypto works is that of a boomer who is on the internet for the first time
I'm a longterm XMR user and you're absolutely retarded. The internet is not anonymous by default, same goes for BTC.
>moreso 4chan is paid by ad companies probably google ads or some shit if I had to guess
4chan uses its UK visitors for commercial gain. The only way it could argue this isn't the case is if it has static ads for all users independent of their location and doesn't collect any amount of data from UK users.
4Chan has no preventions in place to not commercialize UK users and actively tries to be accessable to the UK, that means it participates in the UK market. If you expose yourself on a playground you first need to ensure that there are no kids there, you can't just say 'Well I didn't know if there were kids present even though I actively sought them out'.

>>106923713
>peoples
Saaaar

>>106925036
>Wrong
provide commercial companies practice on tracing the owner of their crypto payments or shut the fuck up brainlet
>Also wrong
citation needed, post proof of your retarded claims
>I'm a longterm XMR user and you're absolutely retarded. The internet is not anonymous by default, same goes for BTC.
you are again conflating the ability of authorities to find out the identity of some crypto, via law enforcement resources, with that of your random website selling access for crypto. post example of website taking crypto for access that traces the nationality of the owner on every crypto payment. if you don't do this you are full of shit and a pseud
>4chan uses its UK visitors for commercial gain.
so UK should band 4chan on UK land. company owners shouldn't be forced to pay shit to accommodate your thing. if you don't like something, ban it.
>4Chan has no preventions in place to not commercialize UK users
no company should, keep your users in check. ban 4chan in UK so you solve your problem. why tf are you asking companies pay shit for you? do it yourselves, ban it there and solve the issue instead of asking money from companies to restrict your citizens. do it yourselves?
>If you expose yourself on a playground
it's not your playground, it's not for kids and you should have control over what your kids do and where they're going since you are their guardian and you are responsible for them.

anyone have a crypto exchange api to query the nationality for wallet account owner? is that a service crypto exchanges sell?

>>106925086
>citation needed, post proof of your retarded claims
Says the guy whose single source is wrong lol
>you are again conflating the ability of authorities to find out the identity of some crypto, via law enforcement resources, with that of your random website selling access for crypto.
Incorrect
>post example of website taking crypto for access that traces the nationality of the owner on every crypto payment. if you don't do this you are full of shit and a pseud
Post a source proving your incorrect point
>so UK should band 4chan on UK land.
After punishing the perpetrators of the crime. Laws have punishments associated with them to make sure they are respected and deter other potential perpetrators.
>no company should,
A company should make sure it's abiding the laws of the market it's participating in. If you break a law, you should be punished.
>ban 4chan in UK so you solve your problem
First you need to punish 4chan
>why tf are you asking companies pay shit for you?
I'm not getting paid but I realize that all parties in a market need to abide its laws. It's not only unfair to the participants abiding the laws but also makes your laws worthless if they are not enforced.
>it's not your playground
The UK market is the UK's property. 4chan came to the playground owned by the UK to expose itself to the UK children.
>it's not for kids
Then you need to have safeguards to ensure that the kids don't go to the place where you are exposing yourself.
>you should have control over what your kids do
And that's exactly what the UK is attempting here. They caught a pedo and now are trying to punish him.
>where they're going since you are their guardian and you are responsible for them.
You are responsible for seeking out kids. The perpetrator of the crime is the one that needs to be punished, not the victim or the victim's relatives.

>>106925154
>again avoids proving xis claims
troll harder dimwit

>>106925162
>Shifts goalposts repeatedly
>Gets called out for providing a single, obviously wrong source
>Thinks parents should get punished for their kids getting raped
How much are they paying (You) for this bs?

>>106920868
please yanks, tell these retards to fuck off

>>106925154
>The UK market is the UK's property
deny your UK citizens buyers access to 4chan, problem solved. if you come here this is hosted on US soil afaik, you abide by US rules. there is no "UK market" as there is nobody on UK soil, UK visitors come here because UK allows it, for some reason beyond undertanding.
countries already ban access to what they deem to be illegal. do it like they're doing and solve the problem
>First you need to punish 4chan
no, you first stop what you deem as being illegal AND THEN you seek whatever the fuck you want to seek, that's how it goes. you do not allow a shooter to keep shooting while trying to punish him, you first stop him and then you figure out a way to punish him.
you not banning 4chan in UK is beyond comprehension, and makes no sense. you haven't provided a single rational argument and "no first punish" isn't an argument, I'm not sure what movie you saw that in. it's...weird.
>I'm not getting paid but I realize that all parties in a market need to abide its laws.
again, no UK 4chan server, you seem utterly confused, there is no UK market. facebook has a UK market for having servers on UK soil. they are in UK market.
>The UK market is the UK's property.
the UK soil is. there's no 4chan on UK soil I'm afraid...
>4chan came to the playground owned by the UK
nope, UK visitors left UK servers and arrived on US servers, so US market.
>Then you need to have safeguards to ensure that the kids don't go to the place where you are exposing yourself.
you need to keep your kids in check, you cannot dictate what other countries do in their country just in case you lose control over your kids. that's you problem, put safeguards on your kids territory so they don't leave it and end up on US soil (server). as in ban reaching 4chan servers from UK
>And that's exactly what the UK is attempting here.
punish your citizens as you see fit, but first block access so other bongs don't commit some crime?

>>106925175
>How much are they paying (You) for this bs?
I'm just giving my opinion. for some reason bongs really hate people voicing their opinions

>>106925041
There are multiple peoples populating the British isles. You may have heard of the Welsh, English, Cornish, Scottish, and so on

>>106923646
>>106923665
I guess its mostly jet engines from rolls royce.

>>106925216
>deny your UK citizens buyers access to 4chan, problem solved.
Imagine your city had a pedo problem on playgrounds and the police just said 'Just don't go to the playgrounds, we can't arrest the pedo'
>UK visitors come here because UK allows it
That only works if 4chan doesn't show you any ads that are dependent on your region.
>that's how it goes
Not really, you incarcerate drug dealers to punish them and to ensure they won't flee, not to protect the abusers
>you first stop him
Because that's a vital process for law enforcement. You need to ensure the safety of the police too.
>not banning 4chan in UK is beyond comprehension, and makes no sense.
Just banning 4chan would mean that the laws don't mean anything. Laws have normally attached to them the punishment for breaking them and if you don't want to be punished for it, you need to abide the laws
>no UK 4chan server,
>Uhm yeah we might have imported some illegal product into your country but it doesn't matter because our headquarters aren't in your country
>facebook has a UK market for having servers on UK soil. they are in UK market.
The law is about offering products to UK citizens though. It's a law you need to abide if you are commercializing UK citizens, not if you want to have a business presence in the UK.
>Bla bla soil bla
If your logic was sound, why is 4chan not situated in another country to have less laws to worry about? How would CDNs work with this law? Why do you believe you can just profit off the UK without having to care about its laws?
>you need to keep your kids in check
Yeah sorry, next time I'll make sure my kids don't visit the designated child safety and fun areas because pedos are around and it's my fault they are there

>>106925312
4chan is not a child's playground, it's on you to stop your kids from going there.

>>106925340
viewing every site your child goes to is a privacy violation

>>106925312
>>106925216
>you cannot dictate what other countries do in their country just in case you lose control over your kids
You can dictate what market participants in your market do. Why wouldn't just 4chan block the UK and thereby make sure it's not participating in the market? Could it be that 4chan has a commercial interest in UK citizens being able to access their site?
>put safeguards on your kids territory so they don't leave it and end up on US soil (server)
The playground is in the UK. The pedo is 4chan who sought to expose himself to UK citizens who are the kids.
>punish your citizens as you see fit,
All market participants should abide the laws, no matter if they are citizens or companies you libtard
>but first block access so other bongs don't commit some crime?
Ah yes, the kids are at fault for being raped, got it.

>>106925289
Your opinion on laws don't matter since we are talking about the enforcement of them. When people discuss how to provide health care your response can't be 'Well people shouldn't get sick in the first place'
>bongs
I'm not a brit but I have an interest in laws being respected, even online and especially on the clearnet.

>>106925340
You redefining my examples doesn't make you right. Hey, if you care so much about 4chan only following US laws why are you not criticizing them for tolerating the daily cp posts on this board and site as a whole? They are doing nothing against the embedded images, against the same exact images posted on a daily basis by mikeeusa and against the clear cp that regularly gets posted here. Should the US punish you (citizen) for being forced to see those pics as soon as you open the catalog you retarded double nigger?

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>>106925312
bro not sure what the fuck you snorted, the discussion is about digital ID requirements for bongs which they recently tried to implement. we may be talking about two different things here. I'm strictly speaking about bongs mandating digital ID on this website, that's what I thought this is about
>Not really, you incarcerate drug dealers to punish them and to ensure they won't flee, not to protect the abusers
false equivalence. mandating digital ID here is not equivalent with 4chan selling drugs. you're fucking insane
>You need to ensure the safety of the police too.
literally and fully unrelated to anything. banning 4chan access in UK doesn't put police in danger, what the actual fuck are you snorting anon??
>Just banning 4chan would mean that the laws don't mean anything
ban it and then see about your enforcement. it's like continually watching someone rape a girl and scratching your head about how you punish them, without stopping the actual rape. you're fucking insane
>The law is about offering products to UK citizens though
ad company does, take it up with them.
>Yeah sorry, next time I'll make sure my kids don't visit the designated child safety
4chan is not child safe, says so when you visit it. see picrel. it is NOT for kids, it is NOT meant for kids, that is clearly stated. stop spewing lies and bullshit. at this point it's quite clear there's no honest bone in you. thus everything you said so far can very well be a lie, such as this one.
>and it's my fault they are there
it is absolutely your fault for losing control of your kids and them ending up in adult only ares. you need to control your kids anon.

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>>106924039
>>106924133
UK needs to protect their children from the hackers on steroids.

>>106925382
>the discussion is about digital ID requirements
No, that's something else entirely and not even passed yet.
>false equivalence. mandating digital ID here is not equivalent with 4chan selling drugs. you're fucking insane
Not the point of this thread
>literally and fully unrelated to anything.
If you don't understand examples you shouldn't be allowed to post.
>it's like continually watching someone rape a girl and scratching your head about how you punish them, without stopping the actual rape. you're fucking insane
Oh I'm sure if you just ban a site it won't have a new domain in mere seconds. Not like this hasn't been a thing since the late 00s right?
>ad company does, take it up with them.
Are the ads to UK citizens being served through 4chan?
>4chan is not child safe, says so when you visit it. see picrel. it is NOT for kids, it is NOT meant for kids, that is clearly stated. stop spewing lies and bullshit. at this point it's quite clear there's no honest bone in you. thus everything you said so far can very well be a lie, such as this one.
See my point above about examples.
>it is absolutely your fault for losing control of your kids and them ending up in adult only ares. you need to control your kids anon.
Again not understanding the example.

I'll be clear for all the retards here:
4chan is deliberately serving content to UK citizens to profit off the content being served through itself. This means it's commercializing UK citizens' access. The law states that by commercializing UK citizens you need to moderate your content and implement safe guards. 4chan is not doing that. This means they are not abiding the law while also taking advantage of the ones who should be protected by the law. What 4chan should've done is make sure that UK citizens can't access 4chan (at least to its abilities) or implement said moderation. It didn't and therefore 4chan broke the law and is liable to the punishments that are appropriate according to the law.

>>106924465
>The British government actually gives a shit about things like extremism and child safety
Never have I in my life read a more retarded sentence. This is so inverted from reality, I must assume you're having a laugh.

>We don't accept this point.
great news faggots, it isn't up to you

>>106924833
those were from UK I'm afraid you don't even know how fucked up UK is. Most of the Muslim/Indian posting comes from UK since they got a whole lot of street shitters in there.

>>106924465
>The British government actually gives a shit about things like extremism and child safety.

Unless it is committed by arabs, then they'll try covering it up so it doesn't upset their crime statistics. 9 out of 10 child sex slavery rings in the UK are ran by middle easterns. That is, out of the ones that got shut down, in practice there are probably a lot more.

>>106925461
It's an Island scale crime against humanity.

>>106925443
>Not the point of this thread
literally the point of the thread, says so in OPs picrel. UK trying to force 4chan adopt their new regulatory framework.
even their own wording implies this service is offered from outside of UK. read the fucking OP picrel
>If you don't understand examples you shouldn't be allowed to post.
your examples are unrelated you keep having aneurysms when coming up with them
>Oh I'm sure if you just ban a site it won't have a new domain in mere seconds. Not like this hasn't been a thing since the late 00s right?
do it and point to new domain later instead of building a strawman?
>Are the ads to UK citizens being served through 4chan?
talk to ad company so it doesn't show them to UK visitors?
>See my point above about examples.
false equivalence examples. you cannot say random things and expect them to make any sense. they have to be pertinent and equivalent. you cannot say riding the bus without buying a tiket is like raping children. that's not equivalent, it's just nonsense. or disingenuous on your part trying to paint something as something else.

by now we have clearly established you knowingly lied by painting this website as a "designated children playground" which is absolute rubbish. we saw you are a liar, thus everything you say might as well be lies.

>>106925443
you don’t seem to understand that 4chan does not do anything special for UK users. They are treated the same as those from any other country when it comes to being allowed to post or being served ads. This is because, and this has been repeatedly pointed out to you, the situation is equivalent to somebody on the coast of Normandy broadcasting a radio station that happens to be able to get picked up in the UK. The UK’s laws don’t magically apply to the broadcaster because of what they do in another country, if the UK doesn’t like it then the UK has to bring a signal jammer down there and block it themselves. Does this make sense?

>>106920868
Not sure if this is written the exact same way that 4chin worded it, but they're technically right in a sense:
>jurisdiction to take enforcement action under the Act
*in the UK* they do have jurisdiction to issue fines and block websites "under the Act"... but the argument *should have been* that UK law does not apply inside the US.

>>106925513
I don't even understand what they're trying to achieve. ask for digital ID from anyone visiting from UK IP? or for every single user of this website no matter their country?
and even if, how do they solve it for UK residents visiting from VPN or posting from VPN with passes bought with crypto? how do you check crypto payments citizenship? it's all confusing

>>106925487
>literally the point of the thread, says so in OPs picrel.
No, you are conflating a law that is already in practice about content moderation on websites accessible by UK citizens and a law that isn't even drafted yet about digital IDs. They are clearly two separate laws because one of them is already passed and the other isn't even completely written down. Hope that helps.
>even their own wording implies this service is offered from outside of UK.
Not relevant for either law.
>your examples are unrelated you keep having aneurysms when coming up with them
You can just ask if you don't understand my examples. Should I explain it all or is there a specific aspect you don't understand?
>do it and point to new domain later instead of building a strawman?
Absolutely retarded cat and mouse game. Why are you defending a company that is trying to avoid laws while profiting off the market that is being regulated by said laws?
>talk to ad company so it doesn't show them to UK visitors?
Or 4chan should maybe not show ads to UK citizens? 4chan should not commercialize UK citizens by participating in the UK market if it can't follow the market's laws.
>you cannot say random things and expect them to make any sense
Feel free to ask me about what was unclear to you
>by now we have clearly established you knowingly lied by painting this website as a "designated children playground" which is absolute rubbish.
No, I said the playground is the UK, see >>106925154. More precisely: It's the UK market.
>thus everything you say might as well be lies.
Says the guy who claimed BTC is anonymous

>>106925513
>you don’t seem to understand that 4chan does not do anything special for UK users.
That's the problem. It's actively participating in a market and doesn't abide the market's laws.
>the situation is equivalent to somebody on the coast of Normandy broadcasting a radio station that happens to be able to get picked up in the UK.
Except that they clearly on a technological level could simply not allow UK IPs to access the site. With this alone 4chan could already have a legal defense that is sufficient. A radio can't have these restrictions but 4chan could and they, while knowingly and willingly profiting off UK citizens being situated in the UK and not hiding this fact at all, offer themselves to the UK. They especially can't claim to know as long as int and pol still have UK flags.

>>106922425
> the UK has efficient organizations

Brother, these morons can't keep the busses running on time. They have no efficient organizations. The closest to efficient organizations in the UK are the Pakistani rape gangs.

>>106925606
>the only time government is efficient is when it's hiding mass child rape by subhuman browns
sounds about right for genocidal race communist psychopaths

>>106920868
Unless the US government helps them out, all the UK government can do is make ISPs in the UK to block 4chan

>>106925571
>Absolutely retarded cat and mouse game. Why are you defending a company that is trying to avoid laws while profiting off the market that is being regulated by said laws?
no it really isn't. you have no precedent for 4chan changing it's domain name so you cannot imply such a thing. it's pure fear-mongering
I am not defending 4chan as a company, I'm defending my ability to freely post here without fear of being punished by some entity because they didn't like what I said on a US server me not being a UK citizen. I don't want to have a digital ID because UK wants it on a US website.
thus, simpler for everyone is instead of UK trying to mandate what the rest of the planet should do, to simply ban its citizens from accessing this website. literally everyone is saying this and you keep avoiding addressing it.
it's like porn is showing on TV, your kids see it, and instead of turning the TV off you're yapping about why cable company is showing porn. mf block your kids from the adult channel!
>Says the guy who claimed BTC is anonymous
it absolutely is for not law enforcement or glowie agencies or hackers or underworld. normies do not have access to other people's nationality based on wallet address.
see, you are again basically lying with no shame, and misrepresenting reality. you could very simply link a service that offers crypto wallet exchange owner nationality in exchange for a fee, that businesses can simply implement in their crypto paying system. please link such a service, that is legal and accessible for businesses, and makes financial sense to implement.
if you fail to link such a commercial offering you are lying just like in every other reply of yours.
you are trying to misrepresent the fact that law inforcement has resources to eventually find out the owner of a wallet, in serious legal cases, with some simple commercial offering that 4chan can implement but simply refuses to. this is how you are lying to everyone in your replies, like all you say

>>106923636
> U.S. goods imports from the United Kingdom in 2024 totaled $68.2 billion, up 6.2 percent ($4.0 billion) from 2023.

Your entire export market to the US is smaller than the annual operating budget of some state university systems. This is nothing. The US could sneeze and have $70 billion disappear, and nobody's lives would change except for the handful of companies which make money selling and importing said products.

>>106925574
>Except that they clearly on a technological level could simply not allow UK IPs to access the site.
why should they spend money for every north korean regime that has an issue with what's posted here instead of north korea banning access to their citizens? it's simpler and less headaches.

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>>106925574
I think Markets should have only two laws:

1) No Fraud
2) No other laws shall restrict the market.

Fuck the government, especially the UK's government. Lick my sack.

>>106920868
>boomers not getting their way having a tard moment
hilarious

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>>106925461
Muslims don't post on 4chan or press enter once after every word because a Jew Nazi like you told them to do it so you can spend less money saving every post.

>>106925685
>>106925574
>>106925571
>>106925553
>>106925487
Can't tell if this reddit typed schizo babble is by a bot or a Pinoy.

>>106925809
those are replies from two different anons kek

4chan: frogs, dickgirls, bbc, dubs, fapfapfap
Ofcom: stop liking what I don't like!

>>106925819
>noooo a bot/pinoy can't samefag
>muh heccin subhuman newfag individualism

kill yourself

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>4chinz said we have no power over them
>counter point: the law we half assedly wrote says we do
Compelling arguments, chaps

>>106924566
Nobody is the USA's bitch rn tf you talking about
the US is a fucking joke.

>>106925840
nonce faggot

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>>106924465
reminds me of that comedian that had 5 cops show up to his house because he said trannies will never be women meanwhile muslim rape gangs roamed the streets.

>>106925850
https://youtu.be/kzF8VIKZh5U
kek

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>106925685
Make no mistake frens, this Nigel is SEETHING. He's crawled here from some leftoid shithole to write walls of text since that's all an impotent cUcK can manage, just like his shitty government. I've seen these same scolding walls of text on other websites discussing this topic, to the point that I'm thinking Ofcom might have created their own wumao.

>>106925878
probably came from HN

>>106925868
You really need to stop using Twitter. It's nothing but one giant Russian psyop. Hopefully the UK bans that next.

>>106920868
>sovereign powers to
eat shit

>>106920868
>we note that Americans are protected by the first amendment
>we do not accept this point.
250 years later and they are STILL seething about it. get fucked losers.

why should 4cucks care that some nanny police state is seething that they left port 443 open on their web server? impotent screeching of monkey people across a large pond, who cares

remember when 4chan was so powerful no government dared fuck with it

>>106926193
no. stop believing all of the retarded shit you see on the internet

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>>106925370
>against the same exact images posted on a daily basis by mikeeusa

What is so bad about this?

>>106924301
>Are Ofcom claiming jurisdiction in the US? No, they're claiming jurisdiction in the UK. Which, I hasten to add they are legally required to do by the Online Safety Act, by the government they are an agency of. If they didn't, the government would literally be breaking its own law.
>TIL that 4chan's lawyer is about as grown up, mature and able to engage in critical thinking about the law as the people who post on his client's site.
Except that's not what ofcom is about retard. Ofcom is a shakedown organization attempting to fund itself off of fines, they do not wish to actually censor any website as the UK populace has a low tolerance for outright censorship, they only win if you pay.
As far as stepping foot in the uk goes no one has any real reason to do so any longer. The UK is becoming an actual third world country and has little to no value to anyone.

>>106924789
>How do you not understand that 4chan doesn't do anything to make sure UK citizens can't access their content and that they profit off people accessing this site?
Nor are they responsible for doing so no matter what poo-k government believes. The location of the person making the transaction is not important, where the transaction is processed is all that matters. If we can say that the britturd initiates a transaction on a website in america the website is still only doing business in america.
The bong government needs to prevent britcuck from making transactions in an international manner before it's made in america for them to have any standing.
In summary I wipe my ass with your king.

>>106924833
Wtf is unc yammering about?

>>106923689
Are you really going to buy indian or chinese nuclear plant parts?

>>106923804
Given the tone of the correspondence, I think he's just doing it for a laugh so it doesn't matter. Free publicity doesn't hurt either.

>>106925689
>we don’t buy anything
>actually we do but it doesn’t count
amerimutts everyone

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