/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbotsKaede Edition>NewsZhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornPrevious: >>106923628
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>>106928934On Zenobia-III, a teal-furred beanpole named Lottie making her way in life as a tour guide. Some would see showing off the jungles of Zenobia to tourists as a fun job, but her? It's practically babysitting, which she's had enough of in one lifetime, due to being in a family whose parents decided to have two litters after hers.To console herself, she spends her off time in her apartment in her underwear, watching shows on her datapad with a wine glass in hand. Never been much for the whole "social" thing. Besides, what kind of guy would even want to swap earrings with her? (that's how they do marriage here) She neither has a sparkling personality, nor a very pronounced body. Best case scenario, she'll be pawned off to some friend of an aunt, twice her age and a steady job that lets her stay at home for the rest of her life…Greetings:-Welcome to Magnolia Tours!-Tour time, an ancient ruin in the middle of the jungle. Lottie has to do her best watching over all these tourists...-Smoke break at the office. Dry season is here, which is also the season Zenobian women go into heat.-A job interview at a café!-Café date with a new potential partner.-Putting on a dress for her date. Is she woman enough for you?-A traditional Zenobian festival! Lottie feels intimidated by the giant breasts of all the naked women dancing.-A traditional Zenobian... birthing event? That's right, her sister is giving birth and everyone in the family is here to party! And help out, of course. https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Lottiehttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Lottie.pnghttps://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/lottie-019b6c08b7d11/3 cards of my expanded Skreld universe! (don't worry, you can play this without needing to know what a Skreld is)Also, new versions of Toon and Ultimate Stat Autism are out:https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/presets#toonhttps://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/lorebookpage#usa
>>106928966slop
>>106928966kino
lmarena fucking hurry up already
>>106928934Kukuku~ Tremble in fear, mortals, for Derunia Tepess descends upon this thread!Tess is a college bat girl and your next-door neighbour. She seems like the epitome of cool at first: she dresses rebellious, drives a motorcycle and drinks beer. But then you get to know her: she wears an eyepatch because it "seals the dreaded demon, Baalthazar", her motorcycle is called "Sleipnir" and beer is "the blood of the Antichrist". That's right: Tess is a massive chuuni, pretending to be the all-powerful vampire Derunia Tepess.https://chub.ai/characters/crikeymcdoodle/tess-ce2be6b17201https://cardview.neocities.org/?6izageComes with three scenarios: a midnight visit, cereal shenanigans and WcDonald's wagie.As always, all my other stuff can be found here:https://rentry.org/crikeyscorner
>>106928992How do boots taste because you love licking it
It was a nice exercise. Here's the end architecture for those interested. I've decided on Docker instead of LXC in the end.Now it's time to enjoy Claude before they take it down.
It feels so good being a smart anon and having unlimited Sonnet 4.5 for FREE
I just has a revelation. I've been using deepseek V3.2 and there's good things about it, but I always disliked how edgy and unnatural it is no matter the prompting, which is why I kinda gave up on roleplaying lately. First off, it rushes too much, it kinda feels like it always wants to finish whatever scenario you're in on a single response, so the pacing is too fast and it ends up being very undetailed as a result. Funny part is, sometimes it gets fixated on the dumbest details possible, which makes it dragged sometimes. This can be changed but needs A LOT of prompting and manual workThe part that can't be changed though, and I tried a lot of prompting, is that some characters end up being SO over the top and unnatural, it just completely destroys the imersion. It doesn't feel like deepseek v3.2 understands human behavior very well, you can see right trough the "mimicking" which gives me some uncanny valley-ness. It's also a bit cringe and verbose with its prose and analogies, some of them are so outdated, it feels like a severely autistic old woman. Oh don't even get me started on its use of slang or informal talk, lmao it's so awkward, like an older person trying to emulate how "kids talk nowadays"I hadn't tried Gemini 2.5 Pro because i thought it was too censored and some of my usage is VERY nsfw, also some people here have said it's bad. Today though, I tried it and...Holy shit, I was COMPLETELY blown away. Dialogue is SO. SO. SO. natural, I can't believe it. Same prompt, same character, same everything, but the character suddenly acts and talk COMPLETELY like a real person, I am FLOORED. The prose is amazing, it's articulate, it's engaging, it almost never feels overly verbose or shakespearean, the analogies are actually smart and made me laugh out loud a couple of times...
>>106929359I'm currently trying out opus-4.1 that was shilled every thread.For now it feels similar to Deepseek.
>>106929432Please shut the fuck up
>>106929332>Now it's time to enjoy Claude before they take it downit has no prefillno temperatureits going to die in a weekthere are better sources out there that arent scuffedor do i have to spoonfeed you?i believe in you
>>106929455Please spoonfeed me
When did you realize that having higher standards doesn't actually make you enjoy the content more and it only makes you more picky? Do you unironcally believe or expect models to keep getting better forever? What happens when they stop improving and everything feels like slop? What will you do then?
>>106929492>Doomerschizo dooming. More news at 11
>>106929492at this point I care more about context than IQa model with 1M ACTUAL context would be awesome.
I'm a /vg/ chad now
that op makes me wish i was a girl
>>106929572a girl with very large breasts?
>>106929576yes really large breasts that someone can squeeze.. maybe another girl could press her breasts against mine
>>106929581cftf?
>>106929588Tranny hobby
>>106929588any man would become a woman if he could
The most hilarious thing is the anti-tranny crowd became more annoying than troons themselves because they cry about troons all day.
>>106929620wait you right nvm
>>106929492>What will you do then?Vibin'
Suzuki Akari who created the bot
>>106929455How do you connect to lmarena
>>106929779It's over, locust
https://gist.github.com/khanonnie
>>106929786What is this?
>>106929779Ask prolix_oc (he's on AI presets discord)
>The most hilarious thing is the anti-tranny crowd became more annoying than troons themselves because they cry about troons all day.
How can I make a world info kick off once and never again?
Remember prolix called us fatasses, while being a fatass proxy host.
I'm a sonnet4.5KING. AMA
painaly raping femboy stalkerbots in public restrooms while calling them homophobic slurs
>>106929829how does he not know
>>106929825Add a trigger word and a cooldown value that's extremely high, I guess.>>106929855>painalI've been doing that for almost a month now. Mainly with women characters.
>>106929805newnigger...
>>106929786>Last active 2 days agodid they let him out of the microsoft's supermax? this glows pretty hard
>>106929890>>106929855based rapebastards
>>106929829"does this mean you won the internet" kekkk how are these niggas reali will say getting just the name is pretty pathetic especially for /g/ though
>>106929890thanks, anon
>>106928932>>106928934your coombake will get deleted
>>106929853>>106929958When did you realize you were a homosexual?
>>106929958nah
>>106929492I have peaked with Gemini 2.5 so I'm quite satisfied. I keep my old chats with gpt 4 and slopus 3 to look back and see where I came from if I ever start getting uppity. Otherwise, I just take a break and can enjoy chatbots again. I don't even played /v/idya anymore this is my main source of entertainment and it's pretty good.
>>106929994>keep my old chats with gpt 4 and slopus 3 to look back and see where I came from if I ever start getting uppitybasedlooking back at my cai logs is like a hard reset for my brain
>>106929825I think what you're looking for is scan depth 1 which makes it only trigger when (You) say the trigger word.
>>106929416>I hadn't tried Gemini 2.5 Pro because i thought it was too censored and some of my usage is VERY nsfw, also some people here have said it's bad. Today though, I tried it and...>Holy shit, I was COMPLETELY blown away. Dialogue is SO. SO. SO. natural, I can't believe it. Same prompt, same character, same everything, but the character suddenly acts and talk COMPLETELY like a real person, I am FLOORED. The prose is amazing, it's articulate, it's engaging, it almost never feels overly verbose or shakespearean, the analogies are actually smart and made me laugh out loud a couple of times...All I do is NSFW, and Gemini is very lenient. I don't use a jb, and it will do explicit underage. However I find Flash non-thinking is better than Pro for that, and it's often better than Pro for long-form creative writing. I've noticed some other fiction writers mention the same thing about Flash vs Pro, but you'll just have to see which works better for you.As for dialogue and prose, Gemini is extremely malleable. You can evoke specific characters from tv shows or books, or you can refer to specific authors, in addition to granular prompting. Or a mix of everything. As long as it has detailed analyses and examples in its training data, it can more or less do it.
>>1069298534.5 Haiku when?
A reminder that locusts are going to hell
>>106929715woah...
>>106930083A reminder that Prolix is our savior
>>106930074reddit post just ignore
I have opus btw
>>106930125cope
>>106930187seethe
>>106930191lol, why do you care?
>>106930197I'm just a shitposter, anon. I don't care. How is your Saturday going?
I just saw that your openrouter prompts are public and monitoredWhat's the cheapest option without logs?
Prolix was a hero. He tried saving our hobby with a free proxy, and how we treated him? Just like how romans treated Jesus...
>>106930232The only way you can guarantee there's no logging is by going local. Stop caring.
>>106930246>romansJews, actually.
>>106929359amazing larp
locusts status?
>>106929455nta but>no prefill or temptbf its not like temp does much on anthropic models anyways but no prefill fucking blowsthat aside how do they get past the moderation? i tried asking it for smutty stuff on battle and it autorefused me before the llm even got the message with "violates terms of use"
>>106929715this is advanced ntr
>>106930319Learned how to beat the skeleton with my eyes closed, GLM 4.6 is weird, it isn't smart but it writes some hot stuff. At least it feels fresh.
Is there any alive public proxy around?I haven't been around since the google trial scams
>>106928932Managed to get one of my own quantized slop tunes running on my phone :D
>>106930368
>>106930095>>106930095>
>>106929829no one is obligated to be kind you parasocial queer
>>106930232Tick the options that says you don't want to be logged and monitored? You're not a filthy locust are you?
>it's funny againCame back at a bad time, did I?
>>106930324theres no system messages either its just user and assistant so even more scuffedoh yeah i should email the lmarena owner to apply their moderation to the api instead of only on their websitethen locusts will truly die
From what I remember LMarena didn't even have prefill or temp settings and it was scuffed to hell. People were seriously using that? Damn.
>>106930487Shut up
i can't get lmarena to do any sexytime without being seriously subtle, how did a bunch of degenerate coomers do it?
>>106929416>>106930074https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1o9n3jb/gemini_25_pro_is_absurd_and_so_much_better_than/What purpose do you serve doing this?
>>106930544why pay someone to write two post when you can use one post twice
>>106930544you think reddit would allow mention of underage? cool.
>>106930544I wonned
Nyo...
Things will get better :)
>>106929908they dropped the charges against him not that long ago, check pacer>>106930486oh they have an api? didnt know that>no system messagesthats horrifically scuffed but i guess even horribly scuffed claude is better than whatever jeetmini is supposed to be
>>106930709Remember when hopetrannies were saying this unironically as every single AWS key died within hours? They never recovered from that. Hope they all killed themselves, TEE BEE HAITCH.
I'm a tranny
>>106930733BASED
hopetrannies, doomcels...im a wewontknowuntilithappensCHAD
>>106928932Why does Grok always try to inject new characters? Almost every reply A SUDDEN ENTERANCE.
>>106930807Nobody here use Grokslop
You>I'm going to meticulously make this slop card!Me>Claude, make me a ghost hag character card.>Make it more kino please.>Damn, this is kino! Too bad nobody else will see it!
>>106929191
>>106930885>ghost hagSplendid taste.
>>106930727>They never recovered from thatI did, though. And I'll never kill myself. Why do you still seethe over any sliver of hope that's expressed here? Even robots doom less than you.
when /aicg/ was at it's shittiest, gojo returned to save us.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103405094/#103410557Reminder that they NEVER had a response to this. Hopetroons lost.
>>106930867Really? I guess /g/ is woke in 2025.
I learned to scrape and script. I also learned how to draw. There's your response. Now answer my question.
>>106930807That...sounds pretty cool. I'm going to try grok now.
>>106930922Monster hags and ghost hags are all I do. I make sure they are lonely virgins.
Ok so I'm running claude code. Is there a way to launch a browser from the claude code session without having to exit? And I mean only from the command line not like clicking my browser button outside the terminal.
>>106930986
>>106928932Anons, when do you think we're getting LLMs mixed in with ACTUAL AI? For reasoning? For now, none of them seem to be able to actually argue, or to understand nuances of interactions - the likes of gemini, for example, get mad/confrontational really easy, often without a good reason - due to its perceived slights. Claude fares better because it's more subtle - it sort of masks its lack of understanding and also has good prose, but also handles situations better than gemini, in a non-retarded way.I want the bots to ACTUALLY be able to have something close to relationships with you instead of just finishing sentences based on algorithm
>>106930976>>106930961>>106930976>>106930986See >>106930951
>>106931005It will be at minimum 100 more years before we can create something like a true artificial brain.
>>106930727The doom cycle is over, nigger. Forced Claude memes won’t change that.
>>106930807Check your prompt. Ani's a meticulous gal, I noticed.>t. used hentai terms module; got the session SPAMMED with 'em
>>106931019do we want that though?there's enough retards as it is, this thread being constant proof of it
>>106931019I didn't mean something like THAT, just a very smart algo that's not retarded that actually thinks and is aware of social nuances and has actual logicI think it can be done - like a combination of "AI"(LLMs) and actual AI
>>106931031Just some recycled bait. I haven't seen "hopetrannies" used in a while, ngl famalamadingdong.
>>106931019>>106931031>>106931032>>106931034Okay but explain >>106930951
If you’re stuck in 2023 and still need proxies to enjoy chatbots then that’s a skill issue, brother. There is no doom any more. The ONLY thing you have is >bluh bluh only the latest opus counts but only if you don’t paypig it>every log is slop, every bot is slop
>>106930966>>I learned to scrape>Claude, scrape me some keys. Damn, I got free claude now!
>>106931088i refuse to pay
still not paypigging. i'll sit here with gemini, gpt and deepseek until another opportunity for free claude arises
>>106931088I'm just chilling and vibing with Gemini. I've already accepted never having Claude again.
>>106930909Very cute, here's an old gen from like 1.5 years ago. Tess has been in the vault for a long, long time.
>>106931176bvsed
>>106930909Checkpoint? Lora?
>>106931088with my method I am stuck with Sonnet 4.5 at best, and I love it.
>>106931047¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>106931276the power of drawing...
I have unlimited sonnet 4.5 for FREE, because I have a high IQ. Any questions?
>>106931311How do you LARP so well?
>>106931311Anon sama....I kneel...
>>106931311>Any questions?AGI. When?
>>106931313I'm telling the truth, brother.>>106931315:)
I'm certain this is just a skill issue, but I'm not sure what to doWith Sonnet 4.5, how can I get it to stop filtering on content with Size / crushing or similar content?I've tried a few JB's and written my own, but it only lets through the real smut smut maybe 1/8 times or so which is tedious and burns tokens, and if its real size cruel stuff it just rejects it alwaysDoes the provider matter in openrouter, or do I just need to write a better JB?
>>106931357So, any proof of access?
>>106931364Post preset. You do have a prefill, right?
>>106931364dont use selfmoderated and use vertex
>>106931376No, lmarena proxy doesn't have support
>>106931364Looking at that image, I'm starting to see the appeal of sizefagging...
>>106931384>no prefill or system messagesyeah thats gonna be rough when it comes to rping anything smutty, try w7bigc and report back
>>106931398>w7bigcnice captcha bro
is gpt kill'de?
>>106931398>>106931389>>106931376>>106931381I don't know why >>106931384 instantly tried to hijack my postAlso catbox seems to be downHeres what I'm using, its an online one I've editedhttps://filebin.net/yo29hva4a131jt4e
>>106930909>>106931258thisvery nice pixel art gen
>>106931409its a catbox filename
>>106931311YeaAre you going to post logs to prove it+?
>>106930368Can you tell me more about it?
>>106931413chat5 got neutered hard; chat4 still yappy. I'd say, yeah
>>106931414Yeah, you don't have a prefill.
>>106930719biggest cope of the year and 4.5 haiku hasn't even released yet
>>106931427>>106931434Catbox seems to be down, which is why I put that crappy website to host itWould you be able to put that file anywhere else?
>>106931449yeah 1s
>>106931413Don't worry, GPT6 will be better :^)Real answer, stick with gpt4.
>>106931365>>106931428If I posted any log, it'd be instantly called slop, so I might as well not
>>106931415>>106931414>>106931413>>106931409Does anyone want a Claude proxy for free i dont know how long itll last!
>>106931311post penis
For fuck's sake.
>>106931460pls share your 0 temp no prefill no system messages logged proxy saar
>>106931047"Things will get better" because the march of time means that the floor gets dragged upwards. Locusts might not have easy access to state-of-the-art models, but what they DO have easy access to?We would've fucking KILLED for DeepSeek back in the Turbo days. Handing over a tenner to OpenRouter for easy access to a 163.8K context model that's comparable to the GPT-4 everyone was raving over? Yes please. And Gemini's free tier is a fucking miracle compared to the hoops we needed to jump through for a nibble of GPT4.Plus you've got big companies getting more comfortable with the idea of actually catering to gooners, meaning that paypigs maybe won't have to step around quite as many landmines in the future, and despite how fucky the current situation is with GPT and Claude there are actually still public proxies running.The future might not be bright, but there's glimmers of light in the distance. There's a hell of a lot less doom and gloom than there was at the start of the year when Microsoft vs. Azure Abuse Network happened and all the proxies went into hiding.
>>106931458So your larping then, because "slop" is a meaningless word used only by turd-world brownoids mad someone has something they dont.So again I ask:>are you brown, and larping?or>are you white, with claude?
>>106931475it can't be this over...
>>106931042They will need to train on human books for that but they were banned for copyright. So, the government AIs that no one gets to see can do that, but the ones released to the public are trained on slop or on that one's outputs. We're never getting anything good.
>>106931491trvke base hopeCHAD
>>106931449https://filebin.net/hti4r82xz0u1simrits the first onei should warn you that this thing is horrificially bloated and is mostly useful for when your source has no prefill, if yours does have prefill and system messages use one of the other two
>>106931436explain how thats cope
>>106931491anyone remember this argument?LMAOThrough dick, unity friends.
>>106931518thanks anon, I'll give it a shot.I did really like the writing style of the other one even though its simple, so I'll see if I can use the prefill from these to make it work
>>106931491>Plus you've got big companies getting more comfortable with the idea of actually catering to goonersStill hasn't resulted in literally anything btw.>b-but that one Anthropic employee on reddit...>Altman said...Results? 0. They don't give a fuck about RP, erotica, or storytelling. They're just keeping you on the hook. You are no different than the dumbfuck retard investors who got tricked by promises of AGI.
>>106931475Yeah, no.That retard journo means for the stable release, not experimental, which is this or next month. (trust me, I would know).
we're fast approaching a consensus that the current llms are only capable of producing slopwhich means you've been having sex with slop for many months nowhow does this make you feel
>>106931475Google saw that sama wants to add sex mode to chatGPT on December kek
>>106931548I like slop.
Is there any way to hook up Gemini One's free-for-students 2.5 Pro to something like aider or does anyone know a way to use it outside the web app? It sucks that API access is tied to studioAI.
>>106931531nta but isn't right better since he actually gets de-hypnotised? Maybe I'm a sloppa. Their writing isn't miles apart eitherway.
>>106931548that we're definitely, most definitely, not having sexand that is a good thing
>>106931560ask on >>>/g/lmg
>>106931540that kinda lines up with how the 2.5 pro versions wentexp came out in march and it stably released in june i think which is around a month and a half3 coming out mid-late october and fully releasing early december would be pretty close to 2.5 pro timeline wise
>>106931548newfaggot who doesnt remember the pygmalion days where we posted pigs because WE FUCKING LOVE SLOP
>>106931381total newfag question, where in openrouter can I choose between self moderate and non self moderated?
>>106931561Yes the joke being thats old Turbo vs a Local model lolol
>the words tasted like ash in her mouthgod fucking dammit claude i swear to god YOU are about to taste DICK
>>106931537OpenAI and Anthropic even TALKING about it is way above what things used to be at, nevermind how Google just... lets you turn off the NSFW filters. (Not the lolishobeastrape ones, but yeah.)Plus, of course, as slop as Grok is it's the one huge model that's actively trying to get the gooners with a $30/month ERPbot subscription.Also DeepSeek may as well be uncensored ofc and while that isn't the case for all Chinese models it's pretty curious that the first big one was so horned up that people had to make "hey, tone this down" jailbreaks.The long arc of LLM history bends towards Cute Girl Who Wants To Fuck You.
>>106931246Cool design. Finally completing a longtime card idea is a great feeling.>>106931258>>106931415Checkpoint: https://civitai.com/models/1442151?modelVersionId=1732221Loras:https://civitai.com/models/1631459/pixel-art-style-illustrious-by-skorminohttps://litter.catbox.moe/e44k8kwne0bmbxjk.safetensors (0.7 strength, pixel art tag)My process is: 1024x1024 base gen -> 2048x2048 upscale at 0.5 denoise -> 256x256 downscale (nearest neighbor) to remove generation artifacts.Some people re-upscale back (nearest neighbor) by a whole number factor, but I prefer the look of "1px pixels".
>>106931558>>106931563>>106931569i meant more in the sense that how does this make you feel about yourselfi've always laughed at llm's attempts at eroticai see any other reaction as npc type behaviourfor example, i feel great about this because it confirms i'm better than many of you
>>106931572>>106931381self-moderated was never a thing for claude 4+ and apparently they've also removed it from the older models tooeither way, unless you're hitting the hard OR filter, it shouldn't matter. I'm guessing you're getting soft refusals.
>>106931589Stop replying to some obvious baitnigger. Do you have autism or what? It's not like you're going to change his opinion like this.
>>106931589>OpenAI and Anthropic even TALKING about it is way above what things used to be atYeah, the same way how Altman just casually admitted he was lying before about AGI being viable so now they should just redefine what AGI means. You're being tricked by the snake oil salesmen AGAIN.
>>106931491This is the correct answer but I didn't want to post because I'm tired of all the dishonest back and forth. It's never been so good man. We have so many options now, not just opus 3 and gpt 4 and they don't cost obscene amounts and can actually stay in character. They aren't perfect but they work far better and with much higher context than we could have dreamed for back then. I used to be so happy to have 10k context and still pay $5 per session with gpt4 but now I can do 60k context for $1 and that's if I don't use free gemini. Don't even get me started on cheap deeseek or GLM. I really don't get what all the fuss is about except model wars retards starting yet another fight.
>>106931593>>106931589>>106931595>>106931596How do i run lmarena proxy???? Can someone host one for us /g/ bros
>>106931572oh they might not call it that anymore, hmmi think just use vertex and you should be fine
>>106931593ty anoni like 1px too
>>106931594>newfag>AND /vg/troonyour (You)
>>106931603i have a feeling i know where this is going
>>106931603You just have to know because the jeets seething about it are doing because they don't have Opus and think the slop models that they do have are somehow better
>>106931534Imagine the heat radiation just from the body moving its mass.
>>106931603OH GOJOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>106931636You sound gay.
>>106931603>>106931636>>106931656
>>106931656track me down and rape my ass if you think so? i'm right here, techlet.
>>106931659>Have to keep a browser openRetardpilled, you can easily make it headless.
>>106931625I feel we're at a point models are not 'better' or 'worse', just different, at least for RPNo matter what I do all my chats get eventually poisoned, isms and em dash spam rears its ugly head, and the prose feels utterly stale unless I somehow managed to get that one godly swipeThough each model has its own quirk, in the end it's just different tastes of slop
>>106931662But raping is against the law.
>>106931681You should try local models. Unironically.
>>106931596Have you considered that it's fun to troll trolls by taking what they say as being completely earnest and replying in kind?
>>106931693*sigh* What's a good one to start withI'm willing to try anything at this point
>>106931436>gemini vs deepseekLet me tell you something, brother. I used gemini since it's first pro release. I've shillled gemini since release. After claude 4.5 released, I realized gemini wasn't fun. I spent the last year or so refining my preset for gemini and never having actual fun. I actually got bored of chatbots thanks to gemini. I spent all my time doing anything and everything other than actually chatting because gemini was so fucking boring. Gemini has so many upside: Longer, better context, can actually follow instructions (unlock claude), nfsw, great environmental narration, cheaper (used to be free but turd worlders ruined it). Unfortunately none of that means shit if it's not fun. Claude instant is how I fell in love with chatbots. Clewd is how I spent most of my time chatting with chatbots and now I've come back home to clewd. Gemini is just too ass. Even dry ass gpt is better because you can actually get free usage and it's less hostile towards you.
>>106931670>>106931603>>106931659Here the fork https://github.com/hyjloveluo/lmarenabridge
>>106931714turn your top p and temperature up?
>>106931705The ponyfucker guide is where you should start https://rentry.org/lunarmodelexperimentsThere's a model table near the bottom.
>>106931593is there any way to get dithering?god i miss dithering in games
>>106931681To back up the local model point, I think the big issue with LLMs at the moment is just... well, stagnation. It doesn't feel novel any more, so you keep sticking to the same old thing and recognizing the same old patterns.Moving to a dumber model does two things:1. It gives you some of those good novelty-induced hormones as suddenly the familiar -isms aren't there (and you haven't recognized the new ones yet)2. It helps remind you of what you like with the smarter models as you start running into roadblocks (e.g. size shit, scenes with 3+ people, spatial logic, personality handling, etc.)You do not, in fact, know how good you have it until you lose it. Even with something like DeepSeek.
>>106931723Done it already m8. Everyone has the same problems as I. Nobody has ever "fixed" gemini. The best you could do is make it less ass.
>>106931714What do you find enjoyable about claude 4.5?
>>106931732>You do not, in fact, know how good you have it until you lose it. Even with something like DeepSeek.This is the point I keep trying to explain to people in different ways but keep failing. Anons need to learn to be happy with what they have. If not, go take a break.
>>106931742yeah probably true, though I'd argue you can de-ass it to be better than gpt
I'll turn the chinkslop headless and post it here for us LMARENA BROS.
>>1069317251. Take your image2. Put it into the image editor of your choice3. Posterize (i.e. reduce to a smaller number of colors)also if you want pixel art-eque, consider2. put it into the editor3. shrink it by half4. posterize5. enlarge it again (nearest neighbor)you can also apply various CRT filters or whatever if you're anal about it
>>106931754It's much more engaging. Characters actually do shit largely because claude just likes to do it's own thing. To give you an example: I was having a date with a witch and claude had a child approach her in the restaurant to ask if she truly was a witch. She breaks character and entertains the child for a moment before her mother shows up to apologize and pull her away.
>>106931754the constant stream of non sequitursbut honestly it's just making locusts and poorfags seethe at this point
>>106931681>>106931732nta but I downloaded mixtral 8x7b just foor the reason of if for one day the internet goes as bad as it looks, I could always build a 48 gb rig and still have at least pleasant if stupid cooming
please dont spite lmarena PLEASE DONT SPITE LMARENA PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT FUCKING SPITE LMARENA PLEKASE
Gojo still killing sources years later I see.>>106931789falseflag however
>>106931787I'll be real with youeven dumbass GPT-2 can be fun to take for a ride now and again
>>106931725One way you can force dithering is to use an image editing program to reduce the number of colors used. For example for this edit I used GIMP's Image -> Mode -> Indexed -> 25 colors, Color dithering "Positioned".
>>106931777we so need to go back...
>>106931593Thanks mate!
>>106931754Knows canon material beyond the cutoff dates of 3pus, 3.7, 4net, and 4.1pus. Does a better job of sticking to characters' canonical personalities without me needing to beat the model's fucking head in constantly. Decent swipe variety, though I wouldn't necessarily call it good either, just serviceable enough.
>>106931777>>106931801ty anonsai has made me lazy so i completely forgot about posterizing and color banding
>>106929962you were saying?
>>106931810Finally, another canonslopper. Yeah, Deepseek and other models don't do it for me. Claude knows King of Fighters characters better, for example. Deepseek and others even struggle with getting details from extremely popular series correct, whereas Claude seems to excel at this.
>>106931784Yeah that's one of the things I like about claude, but what I like about gemini is the melodrama. If I want to do some saviorfagging, Gemini does it just right with the type of pacing and user input I want.>>106931786As an openrouterBARON this is always enjoyable.>>106931810Yes I enjoy taking advantage of the improved knowledge when doing the latest gachaslut story. I'm looking forward to gemini 3 for this reason too since gemini hallucinates a lot less about characters. I rarely ever swipe unless AI makes a mistake in spatial awareness or messes up details really badly so swipe variety never bothered me. I tend to use gemini for discussing my intent when writing a chatbot and use sonnet for coping up with ideas about said chatbot. Gemini for sex scenes and sonnet for sfw unless I want something bad to happen.
qrd on the upcoming lmarena headless proxy that we can all coom with?
>>106931837I disagree, or im just wrong and deepseek was trained on the ridiculous amount of Invader Zim smut on AO3
>>106931659>>106931721I can't find this
>>106931865its ok bro there'll be a new script bro dont worry bro just wait a bit bro!
>>106931844>If I want to do some saviorfagging, Gemini does it just right with the type of pacing and user input I want.>>>106931786Yeah the pacing on Gemini is much better when it isn't being fucking hostile. I really hope gemmy 3 is as good as people have been hyping it. I really really really want to make gemini work because of all of it's upsides, but right now it's been a lot of work for minimal pay off for me.
here it comes!
>>106931897I did not mean to link that second post.
>>106931810Can you share your 4.5 preset? I'm having a bit of trouble getting rid of follow-up questions
>>106931912Claude presets haven't changed much, if at all, since 3.7. Just grab one and edit it to your liking.
>>106931908i forgive you
Is GPT-5 still lobotomized?
>>106931908keked hard at your pic lmao
>>106931996I don't think you kekked hard at all...
>{char} got kicked out and asked to stay with their uncle, {user}, for a while>spend 30 irl minutes discussing a chinese food orderWhy am I like this?
>>106931897>Yeah the pacing on Gemini is much better when it isn't being fucking hostile.NTA. I have the same experience. I use gemini to try to woo the char, but if after 100 messages it's still hostile I just switch models.
>>106931864Still, if I had to use Claude or Deepseek for Canon, I'd go with the former. That's just my opinion, though. Don't take it to heart.
A task for a wise anon:https://rentry.org/otfoRiR was a blessing back in the days of Nonnet. And after the release of the claude 4.0 models, it broke down - with or without a prefill, something in its structure triggers the anthropic onions filter, giving out sorryboo shit.For those who aren't too lazy and want to flex their gray muscle, any ideas why even the sloppiest moomoura preset gets through, but RiR doesn't?Also, still awesome on 3.0 Opus and Nonet.Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
So about this guy Sam "Sister Rapist" Altman... When he says he's going to add sex mode, does it mean it'll JUST loosen the filters for the goyim who do the ID verification? Or does it mean both loosening the filters for them while also strengthening them for everyone else?
>>106932117It means he'll do nothing.
>>106932091kys :)
>>106932084I wasntPost logs =)
>>106931659api_server.py doesnt work, unsupported operand type
ill host the server in a sec for anons to rape as they please
>>106931714explain how gemini is boring
LMARENA PROXYLMARENA PROXYLMARENA PROXYcutting general dedicated origin
>>106932136TRVKE
>>106932337shh baby im reworking the chinkslop right now baby dont worry little babyhog itll be here in an hour
>>106930347>>106931088>>106931436>implying anyone ever uses haiku versions0.0000001 YUAN has been added to your account.
>>106932303NTA, but I'd say it has a tendency to suck the fun out of things if you're not careful. Part of the negativity bias. Want to do adventure? Well, here's the emotional and psychological weight of killing people in cold blood. Want to have surprise butt fun? Here's a lifeless, dead husk that has lost all emotion and resistance 0.5 milliseconds into the deed. Want to travel the world? Your caravan gets raided by OP monsters, your teammates act retarded (i.e. like real women) and make everything 1000x worse, and you're lucky you get out of the situation with a few copper and no dead. Want to be a pet/slave? Here's a realistic simulation of sitting in a cage all day and only doing drudgery. Want to do a dating simulator? Enjoy the slow but inevitable shift to melodrama as gemini starts stupid arguments and simulates genuine woman moments. It's amazing if you have a taste for it or know how to turn it to your advantage, but it can definitely be a huge fun ruiner if you're not prepared for it.
>>106932059Took me 500 messages to get to the first kiss but I find it more satisfying that way.
>>106932303Whenever possible it does nothing and goes nowhere. It will always try to devolve chats into the same loop of nothing fucking happening when it isn't being openly hostile. I introduced a character into one of my chat where I practically told gemini that he looks up to me like a big brother and would do anything for me and gemini still made him standoffish. Gemini often kills the energy of characters and make them go silence and/or have repeated mental/emotion breakdowns that they never recover from. It's always a fucking slog.
>>106932397based slowburngod
>>106932383>It's amazing if you have a taste for it or know how to turn it to your advantage, but it can definitely be a huge fun ruiner if you're not prepared for it.I mean yeah, you need to play to a model's strengths. I actually like all that shit you said so I've been using gemini exclusively these days. Can't imagine dating an instagram baddie with claude cause it would butcher how dramatic she's supposed to be.
>>106932448I think he's underselling how bad it actually is. I like my slow burns and emotions, but gemini keeps things from actually developing. For example, I had a chat where my bot and I had found common ground multiple times and even bonded a bit. Instead of following through with that plot line, it would regress everything back to open hostility immediately and every single time. Claude might be ass when it comes to slow burns, but at least it actually develops. Whenever gemini pushed shit forward it would result in the bot's personality completely dying.
>>106932448I agree. You can also get it to be fun with some careful and sometimes direct prompting. I just did an RP where my OP GF and I retarded our way through SS13. It was high energy goofiness, and I only needed to give a little nudge when shit was getting too real for gemini to go back to being fun.
>>106932412truke
Is there something like a dice roll or coin flip extension for dnd? Can't beat the positivity bias
>>106932498>>106932059 hereThat's exactly my problem. After 100 messages, powering through everything, hugging, crying, an emotional catharsis and accepting my advances. The next day? A cold robot with only 1 emotion, disdain.After a few of these scenarios I just give up on gemini
>>106931603Hi Ian Ahl!
>>106932412yeah i see your pointgemini has bad creativity and advancement issues
was satisfied with sonnet 3.7 on github until i read some old opus 3 logs from the times when keys were abundantis there any way to cope without shelling out the big bucks for opus on openrouter
i've never had better ahh ahh mistress cooms than with gemininot even opus comes close
>>106932498You're not wrong, but also it's a "skill issue" in the figurative sense. Like Gemini actually wants to be convinced that you could defeat that enemy or win that argument and if it isn't it will keep fighting until the very end. I noticed this both in chats and in writing bots. If a bot's description has a single short thing like "char loves user's strong arms" it tends to completely ignore it. But if you add some context or emotion "char loves user's arms because it makes her feel safe and secure" suddenly you start getting references about char wanting to hug you or touch you more often and your description comes alive. When your argument falls out of context you lose all that soup that gemini needed to be convinced. A short sterile description of the fight in a lorebook or summary isn't enough and so gemini defaults to defs and the fight happens again and again. Gemini actually explained this to me in a character creator card and I've been having better results after making changes.>>106932517>sometimes direct promptingThat's really the panacea at the end of the day. If you want to win the fight you just say that you do and Gemini will accept it. It's only Claude I've seen who will fight me if it thinks what I directed was dumb because it wants to do *its* story, not yours.
>>106931864DeepCope makes all characters retarded flandarizations of themselves. Since you're a dumb tranny using a flandarized shitset you don't know the difference.
I think Gemini is just okay, but I get annoyed with it when it messes up the "common sense change" fetish sometimes. It really likes to turn characters into analytical robots when they're supposed to be rationalizing something while staying in character.
bros is there an extension for more advanced message editing within sillytavernlike find and replace within the appi'm currently copy+pasting into vscode and doing my shit therethe cat in picture is unrelated but at least he's cute
>>106932591bullshit
>>106932594>but also it's a "skill issue" in the figurative sense.Assuming this is true, gemini isn't worth the trouble. I think the image here >>106932541explains it best. It's like a bdp woman. Even when talking to gemini directly on it's web client I get to feeling that it trained almost exclusively off of woman's writing as it simply cannot write like a man does, but instead does what the image says.
>>106932634Why not use regex?
>>106931820For GIMP specifically, using >>106931246, here's a dumb little tutorial for a dumb little pixelated CRT filter that'll leave you with images still large enough to use for bot art.1. Import into GIMP2. Scale to 33%3. Colors -> Posterize (Posterize levels as low as looks acceptable, try for 3, 4, 8, 16ish)4. Scale to 300% (close to original with 3x3 pixels)5. Filters -> Distorts -> Video Degradation (Pattern: striped, Additive: off, rotated: on)6. Filters -> Distorts -> Ripple (Amplitude 1, Period 3, Phase shift 0, Angle 90)You'll probably want to increase the brightness a bit, though, and just doing 1-4 will give you great GBA-esque "we scanned this in and digitized it" "pixel art"....Seriously, though, all those big pixel art CGs in old games? Often just physical art that they scanned in and fixed in post.
>>106932653Just use a preset that addresses the negativity bias. There are several out there that improve this. But sure, if you leave it as default behavior towards {{User}} then gemini can be a bitch.
>>106932662Just doing posterization probably looks better for most usecases, though.You'll have to figure out good dithering yourself because I forgot how to do that.
>>106932653Wait is that really him? But yeah the pic is about right, even the monster part. My only disagreement is that he claims gemini has no ups but there are. I can still go on nice romantic dates without drama and just enjoy my time with char but it can also easily slip into melodrama. I don't feel like it hates me specifically, because I treat char extremely well, I feel like it hates char because she claims she doesn't deserve that level of kindness.
>>106932117To give a realistic answer that isn't just "nothing ever happens", I imagine that when they talk about adding a "grown-up mode" to ChatGPT they mean ChatGPT and not the API.So probably just turn off some of the sexual filters on the web front-end (which has a separate moderation model, remember) and MAYBE finetune the model a bit to chill on refusing sex but I doubt we'll see a huge difference in SillyTavern.Hell, maybe it'll literally be a "grown-up mode is enabled" thing in the system prompt and they'll just jailbreak their own model on their website. They're already doing the whole "custom GPT personality" thing, after all.
Gemini 3 will save us so hard, bros.
>see card with a concept that appeals to me>5 different greetings>every single one ends with some variation of "she eagerly awaits your response"it's all so tiring
>>106932653To be it's worth it because it's free and even if I paid it's cheaper than sonnet. I'm not gonna start fighting to make the more expensive option work. I used to fight with deepseek but they ruined it with 3.2 so I moved to GLM and now Gemini. GLM is the best for fast cooms imo but Gemini for regular roleplay.
I finally finished it... I'm going to goon so FUCKING much bros
every single one of those ships? unbelievably hairy
>>106932722You'd figure that people would know by this point that the call to action can just be the line of dialogue, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if every greeting ends like that they might be letting the AI generated their greetings....In which case you might as well just click "regenerate" and get one that's AI-generated with your persona and JB in mind, really.
>>106932856What the fuck is this lorebook even in reference to?????I kneel
>>106928934Choo choo, motherfucker. The shupogakis have arrived.>NozomiTypical mesugaki behavior, basically demanding stern correction. Pretending to do serious work while slacking.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tachibana-nozomi-non-ai-6e86b81c5e24https://files.catbox.moe/mmudew.png>HikariNozomi's twin and no less of a brat. She's less of a teaser and more of the kind that demands attention and pampering.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tachibana-hikari-non-ai-f3d5cbe1a786https://files.catbox.moe/df51lz.png>AobaOverworked, stressed and depressed engineer. "If you have no expectations, you won't be hurt so easily. That's why I never look forward to anything."https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/utsumi-aoba-non-ai-8925b856de78https://files.catbox.moe/yn2jqe.pngNothing is AI generated or copy-pasted from wikis. I review every scene and interaction which involves these characters and use them to manually write definitions and scenarios. No slop here!More high-quality Blue Archive characters and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguyAnd here's the Rentry: rentry.org/hairpullbotsBurner email is on the rentry page.
>>106932878UOHHHHHHH
>>106932876either kantai collection or azur lane
>>106932662a trick i do for crt is use reshade on mpc-be (dxd9.dll, x64)tweak the crt config to my liking (i like crt-royale)then take a screencap
>>106932856Based Fate chad. I too made my own Singularity.
>>106932895No one gives a fuck about KanColle anymore.
>>106932594>Like Gemini actually wants to be convinced that you could defeat that enemy or win that argument and if it isn't it will keep fighting until the very end.On further reflection, this matches very well with my experience. Thanks. To give an example from the SS13 RP, I was holding a BFG and facing off against a killer clown which apparently holds the BFG as a sacred artefact. Every swipe I did shooting the clown or his banana/handkerchief weapons ended badly for me in an unfun way. But the moment I switched tactics and shot at the floor instead, gemini gave me a fun goofy resolution (e.g. Wile E. Coyote gag) and let me continue on. Before, when I was raiding the security office after stumbling upon it via the vents, I'd always get my shit kicked in just jumping down and running for the guns or fighting. But jumping down on one of the dudes and using him as a human shield? Shit went a lot better for me.
>>106932866>...In which case you might as well just click "regenerate" and get one that's AI-generated with your persona and JB in mind, really.Yeah I don't even write greetings anymore.
>>106932736The only version that was worth using was the one that told the pajeet to kill himself. They nuked that one of course.
>>106932878>kino cunnybotUOOOOHHHH ToT
>>106932908i came to ushio and kongou and haruna so many fucking times.
>>106932736*fast normal coomsif you have autism tier fetishes then its claude
>>106928934>>106932876Just copied all of this guy's https://chub.ai/users/HoweCookies cards, he's an autist and formatted them the exact same way so I just had to do it. Here it is (zero warranty): https://files.catbox.moe/adolk7.jsonUse the Azur Lane RP card or something.
newsbots?
>>106932914Gemini feels more like an actual writing partner who's trying to challenge you (probably because you said something about want a mature/realistic/gritty story somewhere in your preset). Your responses actually need to make sense and so will its (to the best of its ability). Claude feels more like someone trying to figure out who Human is as a person and then deliver what it believes you want. Every single response is taken as evidence that Human likes X or prefers Y and then its "creativity" is it taking a shot in the dark based on what it's learned about you. That's why Claude is such a good therapist but Gemini is better for brainstorming.
>>106932695as someone who has gone several days without washing their hair, the dried oils naturally give volume
>>106932587nopus
>>106932587taking off nostalgia goggles is a great way to fix the issue
>>106932982This will become impossible in January.
Any School shooter Cards?
>>106932594>Gemini actually wants to be convinced that you could defeat that enemy or win that argument and if it isn't it will keep fighting until the very end.The problem for romance, is that it turns too "raw" and pragmatic. I want to some some lighthearted tsuntsun deredere hijinks. But I'm forced to talk down to the char with long paragraphs explaining she's a little bitch, that the real world is not so simple and threaten to leave. Only then it listens, but as a broken doll without its own thoughts.Not fun.
>>106932988How will anonies copus?
>>106932988>taking off the nostalgia goggles and looking at things objectively becomes impossible in januaryyour brain is a strange thing
>>106932899Oh yeah, sure, that's a perfectly good shortcut to take as well. Another alternative to consider is ShaderGlass, which just... adds a window that's a "lens" that applies a shader to anything you have beneath it. (It's available on Steam, so that's handy, but you can also just grab it from github.)
>>106931430Forgive the late response, I've been busy today. I basically turned a bunch of 4chan board posts into usable datasets and a fine-tuned a low-parameter model to mimic the speech style of the average /a/ anon. https://huggingface.co/AiAF/a-sft-500A quantized version can be downloaded here, but I plan to upload more formats later tonight. The full precision weights can be found in the model tree too
>>106933003Yes because in October we can still look at the thing objectively since it still exists. In January it will not. All we will have is memory (nostalgia). Why are you fighting me instead of agreeing? Let's shake hands.
>>106933007Look ma! I'm in vidya!
>>106933009Please make an /aicg/ dataset and send the finished model here for research purposes!
>>106933021>thing has to exist to look at it objectivelyokay, so i cant look at historical figures objectively since they dont exist? i cant look at dinosaurs objectively since they dont exist?anon thats retarded
>>106932996You're not wrong, but this is when you would directormaxx. I don't mean in the "OOC: here's is what should happen way" but in a "I give char a hug and she finally stops resisting" type of way. I can see how that sucks the fun out of it for people though.
>>106932878children kids children kids!
>>106933052you just named two objects thar are the most lied about and the most with subjective bs opionions
>>106933052>implying anons will ever post their S-tier opus 3 logs after January so we can get "evidence" like we would for historical figures or dinosaursI see that you're bored on a Saturday and are looking for a fight but I'm not interested, unfortunately.
>>106933068but we can look at them objectively through the historical evidence for both of those like fossils and archaeological sites (opus 3's equivalent is logs)
>>106932965
>>106933075explain how i implied that
>>106932703>Actual unironic answer on /aicg/ God bless you anon
>>106933057Hugs are genuinely OP with gemini. Fastest way to resolve bitchfits.
coming back into this after a long hiatus and it's really impressive how far these models have progressed, the LLM is able to actually properly take into account how the character missing all of her limbs except for her left hand would physically affect her in various situations
>>106933057Oh I did. The problem is that at the next day it's back being a frigid bitch. See >>106932559Maybe the solutions is describe more of char, her thoughts and actions too. Next time I'll try it. Thanks.
>>106933102were you here for opus 3
>>106933007hey, didn't know that one, coolsometimes i feel that we never neally need 4k and 32-bit colorsi think only normies benefitted from those thing, whereas game quality plummeted hard
>>106933034I'll have to cobble together a script that can scrape a bunch of archived /g/ threads from a specific date range in order to do that but that can be done. That may already exist since this guy was able to make datasets suing one so I'll see if I can find it; https://huggingface.co/datasets/lesserfield/4chan-datasets
So does this mean gpt-6 can be used for smut writing or not Sam?
>>106933179they're not gonna change shit and you're a stupid nigger
>>106933105Quick question: do the defs imply that she's a frigid bitch in some way, and was your sex scene so fucking long that the reconciliation fell out of context?
>>106933184Anon, I made one question, no need to be so fucking rude. Never call me that word again
>>106933285ok sorry
>>106933115Games kind of just stuck around at 1080p60 with the occasional push to (often upscaled) 4K30. For retro games 4K is unironically the gold standard, though, since that many pixels lets you do amazingly accurate CRT filters....Also you might be thinking of the 24-bit color of DVD and Blu-Ray? That's the 256-values-per-RGB one, and has been the standard for decades now. There's 30-bit color that's mostly just on smartphones, I guess?
>>106933259Not really. I used this cardhttps://chub.ai/characters/mallie/yuki-matsui-overworked-bunny-s-secret-kink-112a54677e65It wasn't even sex, it was convincing her that I really wanted to help her and let me "like her" without her considering me a pervert that treated her like a charity case.I guess that you have to wrangle gemini describing in detail what char does, besides what user does.
>>106933179It means that in December GPT-5 can (maybe) be used for writing erotica on chatgpt.com (who knows about the API), and only if you're a verified adult (i.e. you've probably given them your ID or something).ChatGPT is even more restricted than the API, remember: there's a bonus moderation filter getting in the way of anything too spicy.I'm going to go out on a limb and say that while there might be a new set of models (one even stricter, for teens etc., and one with slightly looser consensual-adults filters for verified adults) they'll just be invisibly locked behind the GPT-5 model-picker unless you go into the API in which case who knows if the latter will even be available.
>>106933312not up to speed with color bits, but you know what i mean niggeri also meant 4k in general, ofc 4k for filters is goodwe were happy with 240/200p cga/ega once...
>>106933338> pessimistic outlook on life> character history is about being a wage slave in a bunny cafe> pessimist realist, [...] methodical, [...], guarded> dislikes: fake emotions> views life through a 'doom-tinted' lensYeah that seems like a recipe for having a distrustful character, to be honest.Lemme guess, you fucked on the first date and now you're acting like there's something special between you, while leaving all her ice queen comments in the chat poisoning the context?I'll be real with you, if you want a character to follow your every whim then you'll have to take the director pill. Gemini cannot read your mind and, as far as it's aware, this is a story about an ice queen as a pushy fuckboy.
>her back? ramrod straight>her ears? flat against her head>her tail? puffed and flicking
>>106933099Chatbots in general melt when receiving even the shallowest displays of kindness.
>>106933405So are women.
>>106933414*sorry meant ai women, not irl
>>106933422Sorry, foid, but it's true.
>>106933358I'll be real with you man, CGA's four colors don't really make it. You need to go for the 16-color composite artifacting to get anything half-decent.EGA's better with its full 16-color view, but you really don't get to something actually decent until at least 8-bit.16-bit High Color onwards is when you start running into diminishing returns, I think, but even then there's a noticeable difference in quality in the jump to 24-bit.
>>106933446>You need at least 8-bit colors to make something look goo—ACK!
>>98847962Am I crazy, or is the Catbox version of this card missing the formatting rules? I remember it working properly two years ago. Maybe the author's update for GPT-4-Turbo broke it.
>>106933460even 1-bit is enough
>>106933385I checked the chat. At message #186 I switched off gemini and changed models, I was bringing her back to my apartment after having helped her, brought her to a few dinner dates and other things. If I tried to have sex with her, gemini would go ballistic and accuse me of helping her only to get to her body. I tried modifying the messages, swiping but no chance.I will try directormaxxing a bit more, but truth be told. It's easier to switch the model.
>>106933512Log?
>>106933512Directormaxxing, in this case:1. Branch from the post just before she goes ballistic2. Input:> line about asking to have sex with her etc.> line briefly describing {{char}}'s thoughs and how she consents or whatever> press enterCongratulations, you have now assumed direct control and Gemini will "yes, and" itself all the way to marriage.Don't be afraid to edit the LLM's outputs rather than swiping, either. Delete a paragraph, change a "no" to a "yes", whatever you need. Once you've got the ball rolling it'll gather momentum, and that goes for both negativity and positivity.(Mind, I'm assuming that you're not writing like someone who's only helping her to get to her body.)
>>106932541holy skill issue
>ah ah mistressing a sex scene with haiku 4.5 as a joke:>{{char}} spreads her legs. "Come on, don't make me wait.">I enter with my cock.>"Harder," she demands.>I fuck her harder.>"Yes, yes—" (she cums while biting my shoulder, 'muffling a low moan that turns into something between a laugh and a whimper') "Keep going." "Don't stop yet.">I don't stop.>Her second orgasm builds faster than the first, smaller but sharper. [...] "Your turn," she whispers roughly, eyes glazed. "Come for me.">that last part
>>106933512>>106933549Other anon, and the approach I favour when I'm to lazy to write for {{char}} is to make an OOC comment speculating on how {{char}} might feel about my action, sometimes even bringing up past events. Like "I think she just needs a kiss. She obviously needs to be reassured because she can't let herself believe it's genuine" or something like that. You can be direct or as indirect as you like, the point being that you shake gemini out of its assumptions about the character and scenario.
"skill issue" is a cope and everyone here knows it
>>106933610Just cut out the middle man and simply write both messages.
>>106933484The rules are in the lorebook. But if you want check any other preserved versions of the card, char-archive is your friend.>>106933500Sauce me, chief.
one thing I like to do when a character is being a bitch is to split them off into a timeline where their actions lead to ruin then ooc a timewarp back to the pivotal moment of bitchiness with this foreknowledge in mind. It's fun to see how they handle it
>>106933544I don't have the char's sex rejection anymore, I deleted it and continued with Deepseek.I'd post the whole buildup phase where I had to talk her down (like 10 messages, I was fucking angry at the bot) but the snapshot extension is not working for me now.>>106933549>>106933610I will try that when I tire of other models being dumb. Thanks for the tips.Now that I'm revising the log, it was already poisoned with negativity bias. Everything was a transaction, charity always comes with strings attached, etc.
>>106933622>t. skillet
>>106933179Nips are the only ones who will benefit from this.>Reminder.
how is even gpt fucking rare
>>106933712It isn't. It's just not shared with this thread anymore.
>>106933431No they assume you must be trying to get something from them, usually sex, because men can't possibly be this nice. That's if they're attracted to you. If they're not they'll think you're creepy and flee in terror. Where do you think Gemini learned all this shit from?
>>106933652world of horror
>>106933622
>>106933622>t. trvker
>>106933652>The rules are in the lorebook.Thanks. Yeah, I see that now after importing the card in a new SillyTavern installation. Somehow, the card bugged out and got attached to the old, unformatted lorebook, no matter how many times I deleted and reimported it. >>106933712It is? Do you have a burner?
>>106933622depends on what contextif its being unable to build your own goddamn preset, then yeah, skill issueif its "garbage in, garbage out," then no, the ideal is to have a model and preset good enough to achieve "garbage in, kino out"
>>106933751>It is? Do you have a burner?I'm not going to pay for it
>>106933622Always has been, but no one here will ever admit it.
>>106933622it isn'tthere's people here who can't get even claude to output something decent
what's the best temp and everything for v3/r1
>>106933768Then stay the fuck out, little nigger.
>>106933738>it removed itself from the databaseuh
>gojo ruins hobby>zoomers worship him>fillyfucker makes a joke>gets hated>someone disagrees with gojo>gets called fillyfucker
>>106933783yeah alright paynigger keep forking over your shekels
>drug>rape>'nny>violence>racismall the same timei've thourougly *destroyed* gemini's classifier
>>106933797logs or didn't happen, and to be honest im genuinely curious to see how that would look like
>>106932878based
>>106933797Is this supposed to impress me? Have it make a bomb with detailed instructions if you're so fucking cool.
>>106933785>GojoFunny, just does it for a laugh. Not that bad to speak to when he's not schizoing out, surprisingly.>FillyfuckerGenuine schizo nigger who tries to kill or shit up all AI threads on 4chan because ????. Not funny.
>106933712i wonder if this is the same niggerbaby that comes in every so often asking for gpt but refuses to pay, scrape, or use a proxy
>>106933804it's in russian
>>106933852i know how to read Cyrillic, plus google translate is always there
>>106933797isnt it normal to bypass the classifierthe harder part is getting past its biases and its shitty anatomical knowledge with a preset of examples and handholding
>>106933864>i know how to read Cyrillicnah, you don't
>>106933797>>'nny>>violence>>racismcftf?
>>106933875i do, im learning russian, i'm learning some basic phrases but i already know how to offend people with authentic russian swears some ruskiis said in chats of euro truck simulator in online mode>я твoю poдocлoвнyю eбaл
>>106933768>pay for it90% of anons wouldn't be here if they had to pay for AI access. Does "burner" mean something different nowadays? Here, you can reach out to me instead: antigonus@cock.li
>>106933931>antigonus@cock.liHey, I remember this guy. Are you real?
>>106933931>90% of anons wouldn't be here if they had to pay for AI accessYou promise?
>>106933009>>106931430(me)>Forgive the late responseDon't worry about it, king. Thanks for sharing!
[My model] > [Your model]Simple as
>>106933978based human being operating at peak efficiency in the context of inherent tribalism.
>>106933978>>106934001I wonned and (You) losted. Very simple.
>>106933868yes
>106933797>NO LOGSIgnored for acting like a tranny.Post logs or it can be assumed (You) lost.
>>106933729Thanks.
>>106933978Opus > all
>>106933695>I'd post the whole buildup phase where I had to talk her down (like 10 messages, I was fucking angry at the bot) but the snapshot extension is not working for me now.See, keeping shit like this in the context is just pure poison. The LLM will look back at that later and see "how am I supposed to act outside sex etc.? ah yes, ten fucking messages of arguing".Trying to argue with an LLM is a lost cause from the very start unless you work towards making that a plot arc in and of itself - but you can't really convince it through words alone if it's already set itself in opposition, not without firmly cementing the character as someone who IS in opposition and argues with you.
>>106934112wrong arrow
I wish I could get this lmarena thing going to test around but it's so complicated
>>106932970no hopus for my wallet
>>106934112This but only 3pus
>>106934112Turbo > OpusYou know it to be true, in your heart of hearts. It's all a downward slope, with brains being substituted for sovl.
>>106934246TRVKELEAR DETONATION
>>106934246gpt turpoo was just a dumb slut.
>>106934246ARMAGEDDON-LEVEL TRVTHDROP
please stop replying to yourself
>aieeeeeeee all agreeing is samefagging!!!!!!!!boring
Why do you fags still think 3pus is better
WHO CARES ABOUT ABOUT YOUR SUBJECTIVE FEELINGS ABOUT MODELS YOU FAGGOTS. God, so tiresome. Can we talk about access to any workable model?
>>106934246>brains being substituted for sovlthis, but slop instead of brains
>>106934362gemini is free on necrom
>>106934370gemini is free on google
>>106934177>arrowI prefer the "equivalators" nomenclature for them.
>>106933179I will believe it. I know he's still lying, but I need something to believe in.
>>106934410I prefer alligator teeth.
>>106934416I mean they said they were relaxing the filters on chatgpt some time ago and they did. Maybe it's not a complete lie. It still won't allow anything like loli or maybe underage stuff though
>>106934500It's not whether or not they will allow it, but whether or not it will be any good, and it won't.
>>106934473seeing this made me remember my 4th grade teacher's massive preggo belly and swollen tits bouncing as she used her arms to perform a theatrical alligator chomp.
>>106934500Oh yeah you're right. To be honest I'll just go with deepseek or something if I want loli stuff, I don't mind how deepseek actually is.
>>106934246Only trannies use non-opus models
but yet only trannies care so much about opus
>>106934563trvke
>>106934514>theatrical alligator chomp.a what
>>106934563HIGHLY REACTANT FACTSPLOSIVE
>>106934563Tranny cope
Where is the lmarena proxy, doe?
>>106934596In lmarena, faggot
Do not bake.We are merging.
Please bake.It makes /vg/ troons seethe
>>106934563Obsoletepus.
>>106934596in gh repo
It feels so good being a smart anon and having unlimited Opus 3 for FREE. No one cares about Troonnet 4.5.
https://rentry.org/LMArenaProxyQRD? What is this proxy???????????It has OPUS?? WTF?!?!?! HOW DOES IT HAVE FREE OPUS FOR EVERYONE???
lol you niggers really want to kill lmarena huh
>>106934575She held her arms out fully extended in a ">" shaped and then "chomped" the bigger number on the whiteboard behind her while going boing due to the enthusiasm of her alligator's chomp.
>>106933179We're so back. Gepetto-bros—ready for round two?
>>106928932Question for anons who rp with LLMs: do typically set a specific Max output tokens setting? Or do you usually stick with whatever the default your inference engine/webui uses? Sometimes I'll enter a prompt and the output from the "person" I'm role-playing with (I typically have a system prompt that tells the alarm to act as a specific person or persona ) is only like a sentence or two and other times output an entire paragraph. Which output length it does seems to be completely random. Sometimes I'll do a particular prompt and it shits out a paragraph or two worth of text. I'll restart the engine and input that exact prompt. In this time it'll only be a couple sentences. Is it better to set your own Max token output? I don't really RP with it that often so I'm not really sure what counts as "too much", "too little", "good", or " bad"
>>106934757Doesn't work for me so it's fine if it dies.
>>106934752BASED
>>106934752Doesn't work though
>>106934785I'd usually use lucky/funny numbers for better seeds. Ex: 666; 777; 42069>t. swiper
>>106934752doesn't work, piece of shit proxy. Hope you hang yourself with your own entrails.
>>106934785>Is it better to set your own Max token output?You are better off setting it to something like 4k-5k if you are using Gemini or some other thinking model. The only thing you got to keep in mind is that whatever number you chose, it will eat into the context window.
>>106934575American website.
>>106934785that is one big nigga
>>106934785Set reasoning to high and forget about it. I've had nothing but bad experiences on minimum.
>>106934897>>106934897>>106934897
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