>has become
Microsoft has always been by far the worst major tech company on technical and ideological grounds. Even AOL and Oracle.

>dont update
>no problem

>>106941717
7GODs can't stop winning.

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>>106941717
>>>>>has become

>>106941731
I remember back when I was still on 7, an update bricked my ability to even log into my local account. I had to enter recovery mode and run System Restore. This was probably 2015 or so. Ever since then, I knew MS was fucked with their quality control.

>>106941745
Microsoft used to be evil, now it's evil and incompetent

>>106941731
>>106941749
There was a time when you would have windows update lock up and use 100% CPU on a fresh install due to incompatibility with newer wu servers

>1000 sirs at 1000 typewriters for gorgeous looks

>>106941777
Check

Every day I hope that Microsoft puts out a patch that completely fucks windows and is unpatchable.

>>106941717
>chaatt jee-pee-tee, how to feex thees eeshyu?

>>106941717
What do you think is the primary culprit for windows 11 being so awful? The 30% ai written code or the 70% jeet written code?

>>106941717
If you're unlucky enough to have a certain laptop, you're stuck without mouse functions, unless on a fully updated system.
Even the installer may require you to plug in a USB mouse.

But wow...both mouse and keyboard? I did not think it would get this bad.

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>>106941717
>localhost is not working

>>106942399
It baffled me when I saw it on my parents’ system. I didn’t know how they could have possibly fucked their install up so bad as to corrupt usb drivers but I guess it was Microsoft. Funny enough, it was the broken preview pane that caused them to try a restore point in the first place, which only fucked things up even worse lmao. 11/10 fuckup Microsoft, I can’t believe you shit the bed this hard.

>>106941777
>now it's evil and incompetent
always were

>>106941777
Microsoft is a bank masquerading as a software company.

>>106941745
XP was infinitely better than any linux distro available in 2001

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>b-but, windows just werks
Mint chan is waiting for you anon, why haven't you taken her hand yet?

>>106942766
he doesn't know that because he wasn't alive until 2015.

>>106942403
It's baity. Something broke in the absolutely moronic misfeature known as HTTP.sys and IIS (only express edition?). If you don't do webdev targeting the in-kernel http server, it works fine. Personally, I don't know why winjeets don't use Kestrel on all platforms.

>>106942778
Depends. In a corporate shitjeet environment, Windows Enterprise and Server will likely work better than your poorly set up and supported Linux infra. Wouldn't use it if I could avoid it otherwise.

>>106942822
>in-kernel http server
what the fuck

>>106941749
>i updooted
Well there's your first mistake. There's no reason to ever update unless it's for compatibility.
>I WILL GET HAXORDXD
Use a firewall.

>>106941717
This is what you get when you let Indians use AI to generate code that they commit without reviewing.

>>106942362
That plus complete lack of QA. Most tech companies have little to no quality checks and just push shit code into releases. Everybody is so braindead from doomscrolling that they can't remember anything past a few minutes ago. So microshit and all the tech companies doesn't cater to the .1% of people with enough brain capacity to realize all these tech products are literal broken piles of shit.

Also possibly a psyop by the three letter agencies to keep it easy for them to find backdoors.

>>106942861
Ya...
On Windows

netsh http show servicestate

Shows you all your HTTP.sys registered servers.
The kernel parses the http shit for you and everything, it's really weird and I hate it, but comes with the advantage that https and shit usually just work out of the box and you can register most anything by a path prefix or hostname or whatever.

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>>106942878
is apple any better?

>>106941717
if Apple would quit fucking around and stop putting the ERASE DISK function right next tothe EJECT BUTTON. I would pick a side, but right now neither of them are good and I'm not smart enough or care for Linux.

>>106942899
is IIS an in-kernel web server?

>>106942936
IIS uses and configures the in-kernel web server.

Every time I hear of these types of issues, I wonder does Microsoft just push to production? Surely after this many years and versions, they realize that OS's might need test environments, and rigorous ones at that.

>>106943184
Microsoft has not had a QA team for Windows since 2014.

was it just me or did a windows update kill anyone's elses AMD gpu drivers

suddenly the game i was playing was running at 5fps then i noticed i was running off integrated gpu

>>106943184
The user IS the test environment, that's how pretty much every company these days works, release an uufinished buggy product and let the end user do all the bug testing and patching for free.

>>106941717
>indian becomes ceo
>microsoft becomes 50%+ indians
>windows stops fucking working
Noticing

this is why you should only update windows every other month or every other year

>>106943184
I remember all the WSL1 issues and the devs saying they're all fixed but don't know when they'd get added to Windows. Maybe some groups in Windows have more power than others.

>>106943332
manu cornet org chart comic.jpg

>>106941729
How is ms worse than fucking oracle

>>106943400
VirtualBox and Java are actually-functioning products that were originally explicitly designed to get around problems caused primarily by Microsoft. If you don't want to get ass fucked by Oracle you just have to not breach your contract. If you want to not get ass fucked by Microsoft, well, no amount of money will stop them. You are the QA.

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>>106943419
how can MSFT updates break existing software written by MSFT?

don't they test it in ALL types of hardware ?

>>106942927
Apple is a lot better, but still has some of the same issues. It's not as jeeted, but it's beginning to become jeeted. Sequoia is great. Tahoe (the new version of macOS, the one with liquid ass) has a lot of issues; personally, I'm staying on Sequoia for now. Remains to be seen whether they'll correct their course or not. Apple does have the advantage of being both a hardware and software company, and designing really good hardware, so that may carry them even if their software goes bad.

>>106943184
>>106943449
>Surely after this many years and versions, they realize that OS's might need test environments, and rigorous ones at that.
They used to have a huge room with a wide selection of machines in various hardware combinations; they don't anymore. Now they just use whatever slop the jeets shit out.

>>106943197
That’s just standard windows behavior and also AMD is to blame since the WHQL driver version is always a slightly newer revision number than the actual driver so windows just overwrites your shit since it thinks it’s outdated. You can disable automatic driver updates to prevent this.

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>>106941717
PERFECT FOR GORGEOUS LOOKS

>>106943449
I don't know what part of "Microsoft fired their QA team in 2014" is so hard for you to understand but no they don't test on any types of hardware.

>>106941729
Hey... SQL Server is still better than Oracle.

good thing i'm still on LTSC 2021

>>106943539
I can't speak much to macOS since I haven't used it since Sierra and only for a couple hundred hours but iOS 26 is orders of magnitude less buggy than iOS 18 and isn't really any uglier.

>>106942362
100% of jeet code is AI written, or copy pasted from Stack overflow

>>106943449
Lol, lmao even
Testing costs money, just let the users betatest

>>106941777
i ran xp service pack 3 for years. never had a problem.

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>>106941717
I see a lot of comments about "Debloating" windows 11... but how do you actually do that? Is there a guide somewhere, some tool everybody agrees on?

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>>106942766
>XP was infinitely better than any linux distro available in 2025

30% of comitted code is AI generated.
>captcha: DPGAY

>>106943539
>Apple is a lot better
Lmao. People's only currently valid complaint about Microsoft (spyware) is doubly true for Apple and ESPECAILLY iPhones.

bait used to be believable

>>106941717
AI for coding, everybody

>>106943939
This is true, but AI code is also trained on jeet code. It's a shit oroboros

>>106943419
Idiot, neither Virtualbox nor Java were Oracle products in the beginning. Oracle is disgusting.

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>>106941717
they can fix it with voice commands and more AI

>>106944241
>Oracle is disgusting.
Explain how, fraudster.

>>106941717
Didnt they also make it borderline impossible for repair services to do anything for your craptop too? Lel

>>106944263
Shut up, kike lover.

>>106941717
Please normalize Windows 10 IoT LTSC

>>106941731
Windows 7 installation would bluescreen on my old laptop if I had a MICROSOFT BRANDED wireless mouse dongle plugged into the USB port during the install.

>>106941717
I've lived to see a lot of businesses shutter, and product quality go to absolute shit, it wasn't software, but it made me realize that a successful corporation is likely to fail after three generations worth of employees are aged out. Business alright under boomers? X inherited and continued? Millenials don't want it? It's gonna die once the original owners stop advising whoever comes after. Microsoft only exists in name, it's a costume worn by executives trying to bundle AI/cloud garbage with the cheapest shittiest hardware since 2010 Chromebooks.

>>106942778
Mint chan a cute. A cute! CUUUUUUTE!
More importantly what advantages does it offer over Ubuntu, which Just Works (TM), and version 24 has improved battery life on laptops quite nicely.

>>106941717
Just jeet things.

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>>106941745

>>106941729
Well, yes, and no. Fact is a lot of the good parts of modern computing wouldn't exist if it weren't for MS, precisely because of what that shittiness gained was exponential advantage in development turnaround. We're dealing with the fallout now of generation upon generation of "just make it work"-isms that scaffolded the entire modern computing world. One could characterize linux has struggling tooth and nail to keep pace, yet had MS not existed and adopted its operating standards, there wouldn't be as many innovations to trickle down to the alternative platforms. It's a bit like the fallacious "we'd have flying cars now if it weren't for Christianity" argument. It is what it is.

>>106941717
Play indian games, win indian prizes

>>106941717
>break usb image writer
>break localhost
>break recovery
ai's doing real well, huh?

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>>106942927
It's a shame that using MacOS is such a punishment.

>>106946386
bingo

>>106944024
source: trust me bro

>>106946842
nah, it was confirmed when apple's telemetry server was down and you couldn't boot from cold start

>>106946901
source: my ass, just trust me bro

>>106946915
ok jeet

>>106946963
i accept your concession

>>106943539
>>106942927
apple is great if you can get used to the kindergarten UI and only use sort-of-pedestrian apps, and don't mind accidentally deleting half of your computer by accident. I only use one because it got given to me, the iPhone also has some nice synchronicity but it's not as game changing as you think

>>106942359
>chaatt jeet-pee-tits

>run gentoo linux on my PC (btrfs btw)
>install win 10 iot enterprise ltsc in virt-manager vm
>run 1 script to permanently activate
>install virtio drivers
Skill issue. I have zero problems and support continues until 2032.

>>106941717
That's just the power of Copilot (TM) assisted software development.
Expect a lot more of it in the near future.

>>106941717
wait, i saw someone say localhost was broken, and they were being serious? i though it was hyperbole

>>106942766
which distros did you try in 2001?

People using dogshit PCs have issues, news at 11.
And I am whiter than you.

>>106949615
my god this must've been traumatic

>>106941717
Next time some redditoid faggot tries to tell me that "YOU NEED TO BE UP TO DATE TO BE SECURE" I'm sending the pic in OP.

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>>106941717
>breaks recovery
>breaks usb imaging tool
>breaks localhost
>all within the first week of forcing everyone onto 11

>>106941717
thats what you get for vibe coding

>>106942766
But now Win11 might as well be treated as malware with how unoptimized, unsafe and buggy it is. The big Linux distros of today are way better to use on a daily basis with the exception of gaming, and even that one use case is become more viable in Linux as time passes.

India Superpower 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI_xuFA18m4

>>106946363
That doesn't really have anything to do with what I said though I didn't say we'd have been better off without them especially in the DOS days.

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>>106941717
>infinite jeets + AI slop + all QA fired + fucking react everywhere
>omg why OS not work???

>>106950872
you forgot
>rust

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>>106941717
30% of the code written by AI

>>106941717
>had an event at work where an update bricked the fucking boot partition of a computer, no amount of commands helped, had to reflash after backing up
God bless SSD speeds... otherwise this shit would've taken way too long

>>106941717
Lol. Didn't they just warn about updating you windows
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2025/10/19/microsoft-confirms-emergency-update-for-millions-of-windows-users/
>The warning comes courtesy of Windows Latest. Microsoft admits that Windows 11 KB5066835 breaks localhost connections, “which means locally hosted apps can no longer connect to your network.” But there are also multiple installation failures and bugs blocking peripherals and accessories from working properly.
Lol

>>106943400
Microsoft saved apple, what more do you need

>>106950884
Rust has nothing to do with the affected subsystems, thoughbeit.

>>106941717
Win11 over a year ago unironically broke updates on it's own for me.
For over a year windows update could not start itself no matter what, then like 6 months while i was jerking off to some porn the pop up please saar reboot to apply updates showed up, it literally fixed itself on it's own somehow.
I still have no idea what the fuck happened

>>106950805
AMD has zero performance loses
Proton can run 90% of the gaming PC library through steam, lutris/bottles, heroic
The remaining 10% being games with kernel anticheats

>>106941717
someone let aider modify the code

>>106942362
An AI is not sentient and even if you're dumb enough to think it is, LLMs exhibit all the tendencies of a low-functioning lobotomized retard. I.e. they can't be held legally accountable by any stretch of the imagination, thus the issue of blame shifts to the other party by default.

>>106942399
They basically killed USB HiD devices in the RE.
PS/2 devices apparently still work.

Humorous observation: of course most systems that actually still _have_ PS/2 ports, aren't exactly officially compatible with Windows 11 either. So if you literally went against system requirements and used bypasses via e.g. Rufus to get Win 11 onto an aging system, then you have an out. If you're a good little sheep that got a new system with Win 11 on it, then you're fucked.

Btw. apparently this is not all the preboot shenaniganry.
I read somewhere that they also fucked up the entry of manual Bitlocker keys.
E.g. if you don't store a key in the TPM but rely on a manual passphrase, apparently after the update the key entry only accepts numeric characters - which normally is a limitation only applying to the RECOVERY key, but not the normal key phrase.

>>106953107
what if you used a ps/2 to usb converter? or some kind of gamepad? or is it straight up the usb connections are disabled?

>>106943184
Microsoft fired their entire manual QA team in 2014~2015, replacing them by having devs test their own code.
Then a few years later after that storm had settled, they doubled down and got rid of the huge expense that was their renowned hardware testing setup, where they had rows and rows of huge unique realworld hardware configurations to test Windows on. All of that was tossed out and replaced by virtual machines. Which of course are worth jack shit for testing low-level problems. Hence the fuckery with the SSDs that came about of late. All the instabilities with video driver hardware accelaration. Etc. etc. The list goes on and on.
A few years after that they switched their development model into a 6-month 2-phase ping-pong: first 6 months of the year focused ONLY on feature development; next 6 focused ONLY on patching features already in the production code. Which prompted everyone that cared about meeting targets and not being fired for being unproductive, to ACTUALLY switch to a toss-it-all-up-against-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks project mentality. Come hell or high water, functioning or broken, everything - MUST -- S-H-I-P-!!

>>106953107
>PS/2 devices apparently still work.
hoarder bros... our time has come

>>106943449
>don't they test it in ALL types of hardware ?

They used to be renowned for having a fuck-huge facility filled with all manner of possible hardware configurations available, pounding away at testing every Windows build. No expenses too large to retain their image of maximum compatibility.

But then under Satya the bean counters figured out how much money 'no expenses too large' actually was; and they got rid of it. They didn't just stop at downsizing it. They GOT COMPLETELY RID OF ALL OF IT.

It's all virtual machines now.
Aka utterly 200% fucking worthless for detecting any actual low-level hardware problems.

>>106943859
The Oracle license comes with a complementary bitching cool pitchblack full-body cloak and hood with ceremonial dagger though.

>>106953107
>if you don't store a key in the TPM but rely on a manual passphrase, apparently after the update the key entry only accepts numeric characters
bruh there's no way
doesn't that essentially nuke the entire installation? you can't input password so you can't boot and if you can't boot you can't update to unfuck anything
I'm reinstalling linux next week, I guess I'll have to rethink full disk encryption as I haven't even considered it could just fucking nuke everything when somebody does something particularly dumb and I don't have a recent backup

>>106953353
well you could unfuck it with PS/2 keyboard, but if it's using both TPM and password and it's system with no native PS/2 input then you're pretty fucked lol

>>106946042
Mint is a customization over the top of Ubuntu, but on a slower cycle. Mostly adopting new things only once they've actually matured and become stable. If Ubuntu "Just Works (tm)" then Mint "Just Actually Works (tm)"

Also, its desktop comes preconfigured to be much more Windows-adjacent than Ubuntu's.
Right down to the common Windows-like keyboard shortcuts working as a former Windows user might expect.

It's like the perfect 'gateway drug' in that sense.

>>106941729
Worse than Oracle? LMAO, holy hyperbole Batman.

Oracle is the fucking devil, dude. Stop kidding yourself.

>>106941731
Everything went to complete shit when Nutella was made CEO. I may not have liked Ballmer (DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS *cocaine sniff*!) era MS, but at least they weren't breaking shit every goddamn week.

Remember when Windows 10 not once, but THREE TIMES pushed an update that would delete users data despite their "fast-ring" (or whatever they call it) beta testers WARNING them and reporting that every. goddamn. time. before they pushed it to public about it?

>>106953375
TPM is gay so I don't use it and I don't think I had ps/2 ports for about a decade
I guess glowies will be able to get my furry porn collection for free

>>106953353
Yes.

>>106953375
No. They keyboard still works for entering the Bitlocker key. It's just that for some stupid reason apparently the passphrase entry, like the recovery key entry, has an input mask attached to it that does not accept non-numeric characters anymore.
If your passphrase has non-numeric characters - which is the entire fucking point of a passphrase - you can physically no longer enter them. They will be rejected.

>>106950805
>But now Win11 might as well be treated as malware
Cryptolocker actually if the Bitlocker key prompt problems are true.

>>106953400
>If Ubuntu "Just Works (tm)" then Mint "Just Actually Works (tm)"
neither of those actually works if you have a semi-recent hardware
mint is a good choice for people whose hardware can't run win11, ie old clankers from 8 years ago. if you have any recent hardware (or even worse, anything high end like recently released 6k display with good colors that cost several grand) you'll have a fucking doozy getting things to work properly

Sounds fake and gay.

>>106949679
All of them? Linux has only become a serious contender when Valve put money into it with Proton and starting to support Arch.

Unironically, I wanted to love Linux but all the hobbyist tinkering doesn't make it good. Why do you think Linus is supportive of Valve throwing money at trying to improve the experience?

>>106953438
>the passphrase entry, like the recovery key entry, has an input mask attached to it that does not accept non-numeric characters anymore
Oh lawd have mercy
How does it even happen?

>>106943449
Nutella got rid of their QA department. It's why Windows 10 eventually went to shit (even more than it already was). They have the PUBLIC do their testing for them.

>>106943808
>MS era Github
Sasuga, Nutella-san.

>>106953353
Just don't encrypt your boot drive.
Encrypting your boot drive is only interesting if you expect a threat actor to actually gain physical access to your system and put malware on it.
Which they aren't going to be fucking doing that way in this day and age. They have ample other ways to get access. E.g. by turning your own USB-connected mouse, keyboard, headset, etc. into a badware instructing the download of a malware payload.

Just encrypt your data drives with a basic bitch password so that if the disk breaks down and you want to trash it, you can do so safely without risk of someone plucking it from the trash and recovering your data from it. Or if someone DOES break into your home with the intent of swiping your PC, at least they still can't access the data on the drives without the PW.

Encrypting your boot drive is FUCKING MENTAL for a regular consumer desktop PC.
(And btw. Microsoft are total assholes for forcing it on consumers with Windows 11 Home.)

>>106949615
>be a starving young jeet child
>friendly man drops free shitcurry in your lap
>shiva provides

>>106950805
>gaming, and even that one use case is become more viable in Linux as time passes.
I read this exact claim 10+ years ago.

>>106953516
are you actually retarded
>Just don't encrypt your boot drive.
Oh right of course you are.

> for a regular consumer desktop PC.
Okay you got me there, devices that are expected to stay indoors in a reasonably safe environment generally have no reason to be fully encrypted. However there's these things called laptops that are portable computers that can be taken out of someone's sight. If they compromise the boot partition, at best they get your passwords. At worst, they return the system and it's got a keylogger now, and sends your data off to them when you decrypt it.

>>106943184
They HAVE test environments (Test, First, Fast... though they renamed these to those a few years ago and I forget the original Win10 insider-program names for it): https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/managed-desktop/operate/updates

The problem is, they don't FUCKING LISTEN.

>>106953476
the thing that opened the floodgates for linux gaming was DXVK, not Proton. Proton is wine bundled with dxvk and integrated into steam. it makes using wine/dxvk easier, but it didn't create anything new.
it should stand out that anyone who brings this up always mentions proton, even though steam was ported to linux several years earlier, and the reason is because it's actually dxvk that made the breakthrough.

>>106941717
Jeetcoded. It's just a shame that there's not a viable desktop alternative for PCs. Sad really, and people have wanted one for decades.

>>106953494
Field validation fuck up, accidentally baking a build of your software with the same validation logic tied to the wrong instance of a particular input.
Valve had the same thing happen with 2FA recovery keys for Steam, which are a few digits longer than the regular 2FA TOTP key. There were some versions of Steam where they attached the same max length input validation to both, which broke the account recovery feature.

>>106953572
>It's just a shame that there's not a viable desktop alternative for PCs
linux Just Works (tm) for several years now

>>106941717
>has become
You must be at least 18 years old to post here.

>>106953639
back in the day, macs had shit hardware so OS was irrelevant and linux was borderline unusable
there was pretty much no real competition from win98 to win 7 period

>>106953628
>Linux
You're telling me this for the first time, I've never heard of that before.

>>106953554
If you're dealing with someone that has the actual intent of going after your laptop to swipe it and install a key logger to steal accounts, then you're dealing with a threat actor that could just as easily boot the laptop via alternative means, e.g. via USB, to flash an additional binary into the EFI's Windows Binary Partition Table to be installed quietly and unattendedly directly by the SYSTEM account with full system permissions on next boot, and root you that way.

Or they open up the laptop and mess with one of the USB ports to replace it with a badware device. Then on next boot, the device opens a terminal, downloads a payload and executes it and we're also off to the races. (Will you own a laptop with hardware intrusion detection capabilities as a consumer? Probably not.)

Either way, they return it to you, you start using it again, and you're fucked.

>>106953695
linux being viable on desktop for a non-autistic person is fairly new

>>106953712
Well I'll check it out. Just hope it runs all my software, including excel! Wish me luck.

>>106953703
>then you're dealing with a threat actor that could just as easily boot the laptop via alternative means, e.g. via USB, to flash an additional binary into the EFI's Windows Binary Partition Table to be installed quietly and unattendedly directly by the SYSTEM account with full system permissions on next boot, and root you that way.
shit I didn't know I was being hunted by some scifi agency

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Windows is a toy OS primarily used by normies to play video games

so who the fuck cares.

Is this the update from last week or some fix to the update from last week?

>>106953772
The world runs on Windows, you unemployed hopper.

>>106953879
Actually no, dumb dumb dumb fat american

>>106953542
Yeah and gaming has come a long way on Linux in 10 years. SteamOS is Linux.
>>106953879
No it doesn't fucking retard, Linux is the most popular OS for servers. Windows only wins for desktop PCs lmao. Gamers do not run the world dumbass

>>106953961
>Gamers do not run the world dumbass
gamers elected orange man

>>106953992
You mean boomers, the one demographic that actually consistently votes

>>106953961
You're so unemployed you think the only use for a desktop is games. I wonder if you have any idea how prevalent Microsoft is for local office servers? Also azure, which is managed by a windows server os, is very popular too. They even offer a linux instance, since it's popular with webshitters.

>>106954017
Nah, boomers as you said always vote
gaymers used meme magic and got right wing grifters to suck up to trump and shit on ayymala which was enough to secure the win since zoomers use those people as surrogate brains

>>106954017
Let me guess, you're an unemployed loser who cannot afford a "gaming pc", you blame your (boomer) parents for not paying for one, so you pretend to be happy with linux and just distro-hopping all day?

>>106941777
Lucky 7s speak the truth.

>>106954046
>>106954086
If you weren't an unemployed gamer larping as a techfag then you'd know how common Linux is in the IT field. In fact refusing to learn it makes you way less employable, imagine trying to work a career as a sysadmin when you don't know how to use SSH or Bash or do basic things with Linux. In real life you do these things every day

>>106954168
>imagine trying to work a career as a sysadmin
I'd rather not
In real life you use a mac or (less commonly) windows. Only some webshitters use linux, and I guess some weird rather-be-unemployed careers like sysadmin or I guess helpdesk or whatever

I use linux on my desktop btw

>>106941717
Just in the last week:
>A Windows 11 update broke localhost
>A Windows 10 update broke Windows 10 to 11 upgrade facility
>A Windows 11 update broke WinRe (this thread)
>>106941777
Agree. It all went downhill since they launched win 10 and fired their entire QA. And it only gets worse.

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According to this totally real human being on Reddit giving his impartial take on Microsoft, it's actually the chinks who are harvesting your Recall screenshots every 4 seconds.
Do ipconfig /displaydns and see if there's any microsoft.cn connections. I did notice one a few days ago.

>>106941717
I mean their engineering department is mostly indians

>>106954233
Either you have respect and knowledge for every field in the overarching IT ecosystem or you're fat garbage who's doomed to be laid off one day.
What are you?

>>106954320
Nobody on the planet respects sysadmins
Their skillset is useful but they are despicable people who do nothing but annoy everybody else with practically every action they do. BYOD is a blessing mostly because you get to tell them to fuck off.
I'm not even fat

>>106953420
>Remember when Windows 10 not once, but THREE TIMES pushed an update that would delete users data despite their "fast-ring" (or whatever they call it) beta testers WARNING them and reporting that every. goddamn. time. before they pushed it to public about it?
And my SSD got nuked by the recent Windows 11 update; same bullshit, different day. Can't complain too much, though, I got a newer, free SSD out of it.

>>106941717
Saaar, Its the brahmin special. Please redeem saar

>>106953569
>even though steam was ported to linux several years earlier
I used linux during that time, most game linux ports were basically an old ass wine version bundled with the windows executables, hell, all feral ports are wine with their own dxvk, you can most probably get better performance in any current and old game by using the windows version and proton.
Proton has been the biggest gift and disgrace linux has seen, it allowed to play thousands of games even day one, but now there's almost no native linux ports.

>>106946042
>More importantly what advantages does it offer over Ubuntu, which Just Works (TM),
I've been using ubungu in the work issued laptop and the last thing I'd say is that "it just werks", have had plenty of issues with it already, starting from the badly configured gnome desktop to today I restarded it and now half the DE is in light mode and half in dark mode when everything was dark mode before the restart.

>>106954760
>but now there's almost no native linux ports
native linux ports were never going to happen in large numbers

>>106942927
Macos has probably the worst desktop UX you can find out there, it got a bit better with 26, but it's still designed so you can't walk out of the designed path they set up for you.

>>106953047
The blame is always Microsoft but the question was whether the actual cause of why 11 is so awful was the llm code or the jeet code

Any complaint about windows just invites the lintards to proselytize their cult. It's yet another example of a proposed solution being worse than the original problem.
>Decline of Western Civ: Why not switch to Islam?
>Cost of living rising too high: Why not switch to Communism?
>Programmer costs rising too high: Why not switch to infinity Indians?
>C++ has lost the plot: Switch to Rust!!!
>Windows has an issue: Why not switch to Linux?

>>106955650
>proposed solution being worse than the original problem.
What makes linux worse than windows?
>inb4 generic non answers that have been solved for a decade or adobe

>>106941717
Already fixed do you cunts ever shut the fuck up

>>106941717
Fuck Microshit.

>>106941717
>has become
you need to be 18 to post here

>>106941717
I'm sure it has nothing to do with all the jeets they hired.

>every company gets worse and worse as they fire everyone competent and hire the cheapest workforce possible
>corporations literally not allowed to have competent QA because bean counters have figured out that the consumer buys anyway, and it's illegal to not focus on short term profit
>at the same time big corpos get more and more power over countries
Is there any hope for the future at all?

>>106956747
Other than software I require being unavailable, I hate the fragmented nature of the development. It's not built as a cohesive whole, but rather isolated teams all competing to be the preferred sub-component. I'd really only consider linux for a server or an embedded system.

>>106957086
It shouldn't happen.

>>106953572
Valve needs to stop being cunts and just release steam OS so I can make the switch.
Mac for eng work, steam OS for gaming, Windows for the shitting streets.

>>106957416
>Mac for eng work
Not really for electrical engineering. Most professional circuit software is Windows only.

>>106957416
what kind of engineering can you do on a mac? dildo design?

>>106941731
>old version of Windows that no longer receives updates is better than latest version that gets updates
>t.zoomer
Windows has always had retarded issues like this

>>106957533
He's probably a software "engineer" who does webshit.

>>106957585
potato potato

>>106957533
>>106957478
>>106957585
>>106957617
>>>/utwg/
Don't @ me

>>106941717
This is why you don’t update

>>106943952
https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat/

>>106942766
>bluescreens due to crashed printer driver

>>106942927
>is satans anus the company any better?
they make THE shittiest design choices that ive ever seen
and you still dont own your devices just like with microsoft and jewgle

>>106953879
solitare in the office what isnt a bubble of jweish kikery

>>106942778
archsisters... where's our mascot...

>>106941717
Pajeet my son
You're a devloper now
you must choose where to work!

>>106941717
Thats what happens when you replace your workforce with indian "vibe coders".

>>106942927
Ironically yes. They're not good, software quality will probably never be as good as it was with 10.9 again.
But Microsoft's quality has gone so far down the designated shitting street that Apple won by doing nothing.

>>106953879
I for one will miss Windows RE being the only place you can do >format c: and have it work. Reminds me of the good old MSDOS days

>>106941717
>has become
Dude. Don't you know the whole thing started when Bill Gates got an IBM contract through his mum, then bought QDOS and repackaged it?

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>>106941717
>number of update-related breakages on my Arch+KDE installation since initial installation of September 2023: 0
>number of update-related breakages on Windows 11 since September 2023: many many more
ROFLMAO

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>>106953107
>: of course most systems that actually still _have_ PS/2 ports, aren't exactly officially compatible with Windows 11 either.
And those that do use an adapter chip so it's still a USB HID.

The jeet CEO should have been the brightest and reddest red flag imaginable, You only have yourself to blame OP

>>106941717
Are there people that use windows recovery?
>C: is for dual boot, unix/windows
>D: and above is where you store important shit that you dont wabt gone when you reformat.

>>106942927
Microsoft makes shit software for potentially good hardware, the software can still be replaced. Apple makes shit software for abysmally dogshit hardware and is the number one innovator of enshittification of everything. Every single awful idea Apple gets is getting copied by most other manufacturers.

>>106955650
>proselytize
Oh god another thesaurusfag. Eleutherotard is that you?
>It's yet another example of a proposed solution being worse than the original problem.
No this is a case of Windows having the problems you accuse Linux distros of having. Of course I'm gonna point and laugh you insufferable faggot.

>>106953724
Keked at this smartass response

>>106942927
macOS is shit because old software quickly stops even launching, unnotarised software makes you have to jump through hoops, and overall it's gay, retarded and don't get me started about Metal 2.

>>106953772
>>106953953
Do you retards even have jobs? Like jobs where the company gives you a work laptop? Because I do, and Windows 10 is on it (they want me to schedule an appointment to upgrade to 11 but I'm not doing that).

>replace your white engineers with jeets because they are cheaper and somehow extremely more qualified with tons of diplomas even knowing that their country is a literal landfil
>give the jeets AI so they can vibe code which is the new and appropriate way of programming acording to all the tech "experts"
>company is screwing over and losing customers on all fronts and nobody in the company cares
>resorts to spying and stealing their customer's data for profit

its over for windows
jump ship while you can

>>106963416
This
>if you aren't on the latest point update of the version, half the inbuilt shit stops working and Apple won't let you install half of their own shit from the app store
And the macfags take this. They have for years. I remember it being like that on 10.13. It probably was like that since 10.6.7 or whenever they introduced the appstore.
Recently I had to deal with boot camp assistant trying to download the drivers for someone's macbook after reinstalling windows.
>try downloading the drivers through bootcamp, error
>remember the factlet about updates which is waiting through 5 bootscreens thinking "did it break? is it bootlooping?"
>fail to download drivers (30 minutes for a <2gb download over 700mbps broadband and wifi ac, NICE FUCKING SERVERS APPLE) with cryptic error (probably could not write to NTFS)
>realize there are 5 year old drivers in Downloads, fuck waiting 30 more minutes we installing this
>try to copy to NTFS... its mounted read only and I can find no options to mount as rw after I could barely find my way around the insult to UX that is Finder
>search how to write to NTFS on mac
>"Step 1. Open Terminal"
KEK. So what is the appeal of this over Linux? Maybe if you're into bottoming I can see the appeal but most people, myself included, aren't.
Anyway I mounted it as rw from the commandline and copied it without problems, installed them on windows and it installed Apple Software Update so I updated them to the latest without problems too.
Much fucking easier than dealing with fagOS for another second. Gave the guy his mACKbook and said "I never want to see a fucking Macintosh again in my life"

>>106963670
I don't use the app store. Seems like a you problem.

>>106963876
It's still bullshit. The fuck is the difference between say 10.13 and 10.13.1, that I need to update to install first party software?
I edit sources.list in Ubuntu 10.04 and FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS LATER I can install software with one click. The pedo-protecting bastards at Canonical can keep repos up for it, Apple can't keep the version for each update up of their own apps on their servers? Oh right, they're still running from 56k dialup from what I've seen with recent the bootcamp misadventure. 30 fucking minutes to download 1.5GB are you fucking kidding?

>>106953420
Ballmer is so underappreciated it's unreal. He took a company that was slated for breaking up at the hands of multiple governments, getting sued left and right, led by a complete asshole that everyone hated. And turned it into a business powerhouse. He probably knows nothing at all about tech, but he was a savant businessman. Nadella is going to have the exact opposite retrospective one day. He presided over Microsoft turning to shit in all markets, but managed to make MSFT the largest company on Earth by virtue of sucking down government money for cloud buildout.

If Nadella took over when Ballmer did, Microsoft would have been broken into pieces and would have given Windows to the government.

If Ballmer stayed on instead of Nadella, we would have a competitive Windows Phone and OneDrive would be a genuine competitor to iCloud.

>>106941745
What flavor is Windows xp?

>>106941729
>Even AOL
AOL is like three different companies depending on when you're talking. I know ex-AOL employees that worked on Mosaic/Netscape.

>>106942840
Even there it's pretty bad but the main problem is that maintaining your own workstation violates corporate policy, not some technical issue.

>>106944241
Oracle is essentially just a roleup of SUN/IBM adjacent companies.

>>106964997
Blue moon of course.

>>106954456
Got my SSD nuked on Windows 10 few years ago.

>>106957576
7 didnt THOUGH

>>106954456
>>106965151
How the fuck does this happen to you people and then you go "you know what, I should install Windows again?"

Windows update screwed up my grub install *once* in 2002 (it didn't even delete any data) and I never put it on another machine I owned.

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do you guys not have this? it's really good for when there's updates

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT4vDfA_4NI

>Fresh install of XP
>Wireshark is silent on first boot
>Fresh install of W10
>Wireshark lights up like a Christmas tree on first boot

>>106965594
What about 7?

>>106941730
Win-win

>>106964997
Watered down milk

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they could have kept me as a customer. I am lazy as fuck. I would have said "meh, I'll take a free Windows 11 upgrade". But they just HAVE to harrass you into making an account. And then they HAVE to remove all the workarounds to virtually force you into making an account. What part of

>I DON'T WANT A MICROSOFT ACCOUNT

do these sinister fucks do not understand???

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>>106966711
the "DON'T"