Two questions:>1)I want to use LTS but not until 26.04. Until then I want to use 'rolling', 25.10. The reason is I have a laptop and want to use smart charging (cap at 80%). LTS won't have this feature until 26.04, but it's already in 25.x.So, is it possible to use 25.10 until 26.04, and then when I get there to 'change lanes' and hop over to the LTS lane from the 6-monthly lane?>2)I see a lot of people advocating for clean installs every major version, no matter the distro. I don't want to do that, I want to install once and then smoothly upgrade from version to version. Which Ubuntu lane is the best for that? I.e. which lane has the safest most reliable in-place upgrades, the least likely to bork itself in the process; 6-monthly (26.04 -> 26.10 -> 27.04 -> 27.10 -> 28.04 etc)? Or LTS (26.04 -> 28.04 -> 30.04 etc)?
>>106956878It's been 20+ years since I borked a Linux install by doing a version upgrade, and that was probably Red Hat. I only use Ubuntu LTS so I can't answer your other questions.
>>106956878literally one google search, you can do this on seemingly any linux env with simple commands and you might even be able to enable this at bios-level. is this your first time?
>>106956878Yes.No. That's only needed for garbage like Fedora. Use the LTS lane, I have several machines that were upgraded over years and it just works.
i remember going from 21.10 to 22.04 lts on ubuntu mate. not sure how i did it but it is possible, i remember there being a guide on their forum. im sure it is still there. to be honest i do not see much benefit in using the lts version on a laptop, because late in its support cycle the packages are ancient.
>>106956878welcome to the greatest tech decision of your life
>>106956878big moment in your life anon.
>>106956878See you back on Windows tomorrow.
>>106957147>>106957246Yeah, a massive waste of time unless all you do happens inside a web browser.
>>106957561switching from windows to any other OS is not a waste of time
>>106956878Open a thread when you're fed up with linux and crawl back to windows, be honest
Yes, install 25.10 and then around april upgrade to 26.04, is easy to do it.Then, if you like your "it just werks" LTS setup, just upgrade every two years.Compared to Windows, updates are not painful nor tedious, specially with non-rolling distros.
>>106956878>I have a laptop and want to use smart charging (cap at 80%)Obviously no one else in this thread uses Linux, since this feature has existed for years with tlp. Ubuntu isn't bad, I've been using it since 2016 when I skipped over, but the newer releases are starting to become a pain in the ass. You should do the rolling release for now and use the first LTS version available and stick with it, once you get used to the command line and have extra packages installed you won't want to keep doing version upgrades as often.
>>106957959This. One other thing I would add - don't upgrade the LTS release until you need to, such as when you can't run new software on it anymore. Consider activating the Pro subscription if you end up using it past 5 years.>>106956981>That's only needed for garbage like Fedora.In place upgrades have worked on Fedora for years.
>>106956878You can limit max battery charge to 80% on any distro using the terminal or even the file manager, you just modify one text file in `sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_stop_threshold` and write the number 80 on it. Save the file and that's it.I successfully upgraded through major releases with no issues though
>>106957622The only people who use windows are those too poor for a Mac, too stupid for Linux and those unfortunate enough to be forced to by their place of work. You are an excellent specimen for scenario 2. You came to a thread discussing something you don't like only to complain about it, you are by all means stupid.
>>106960452There should be tbfh a 120 page manual for all things linux that one could go to for answers and pre-requisite before installing Linux OS. That's how I would compare Linux pre-req to Mac and Winblows. Only useful thing is if you are using high end graphics Nvidia cards with AI generative content on W11 that could be a boon to stick with W11. Otherwise yeah, LinuxOS operated with AMD power for AI might be lacking beyond basics. Decent enough if you are just looking to goon with AI or ask it for tech help.
>>106960452Gamers are kind if a big deal thoughEveryone else uses phones they also make computers cheaper
>>106960519They are already using Linux if they are using Android. Its just Google's OS type for Linux.
>>106960452>murrican take
>>106956878>decided on UbuntuI know it's a rather cliche to go "shit distro use xyz instead lol" but Ubuntu has genuinely gotten shit. FEDora is what I'd go for.>Which Ubuntu lane is the best for that? I.e. which lane has the safest most reliable in-place upgrades, the least likely to bork itself in the processProbably LTS.
>>106956878brother, LTS is only essential for servers. I will always use the last current version.
>>106956878Good choice Anon. Ubuntu is good. You can even disable snaps if you want and just run deb packages and flatpak.1. Yes2. Yes. Use 25.10 for now and just upgrade to 26.04 when it's time
>>106956878>>I want to use LTS but not until 26.04. Until then I want to use 'rolling', 25.10. The reason is I have a laptop and want to use smart charging (cap at 80%). LTS won't have this feature until 26.04, but it's already in 25.x.pretty sure you can do this on 24.04 LTS just not though the stock GUI. there's a CLI program you can use and a gnome extension that does the same thing.>So, is it possible to use 25.10 until 26.04, and then when I get there to 'change lanes' and hop over to the LTS lane from the 6-monthly lane?yes you can always change to the new normal/new LTS version. and it will usually work unless you fucked around with a lot of stuff >>106956878>I see a lot of people advocating for clean installs every major version, no matter the distro. I don't want to do that, I want to install once and then smoothly upgrade from version to version. Which Ubuntu lane is the best for that? I.e. which lane has the safest most reliable in-place upgrades, the least likely to bork itself in the process;just use the normal ubuntu versions released every half year they are very safe and reliable if you dont fuck around too much with the system files which could break things.if you truly want a 'set it and forget it' get an immutable/atomic system. like fedora silverblue or bluefin. you basically cant accidentally break it , your system files are read-only and updates are done only when you restart (last version of your system is always saved so you can always roll back).
>>>106956878Stop right there. Use Mint or Xubuntu instead of default Ubuntu1) Yes you can upgrade, but you should split partitions away anyway, specially /home, because if you fuck up the base install you can get a fresh install and just slap your old home on top of it and shit just works2) Make your life easier and stick to LTS
>>106956878My best advice, use Arch Linux.There is no GUI to install but it's easy.Has *the best* resources to learn.It just works.It's the OS that Steam is pouring resources into making things just work even more.Always up-to-date, just run a command every once in a while to get even more up-to-date stuff: no "version 2025.05, 2026.10, LTS, beta, edge, bullshit", no need to "upgrade to another version".
>>106961799>>106962316seething updooters who don't understand that not everyone wants to be an updooter
>>106962332ubuntu is 'UPDOOTER' tooif you want zero maintenance get bluefin
>>106962392Gay ass branding Use Vanilla OS instead
>>106962418honestly never tried it ill check it out
>>106962332>seething updooters who don't understand that not everyone wants to be an updooterSure, it's worse to run `yay` whenever you feel like it, than it is to have your OS breathing down your neck telling you "There is a newer version of your distribution available" and "55 critical security updates are required", later needing to REINSTALL because you're on 2024.05 and it's not supported anymore, or running `apt dist-upgrade` and risk ruining everything so much that reinstalling is recommended.I am seething.
>>106962945>"There is a newer version of your distribution available" and "55 critical security updates are required", later needing to REINSTALL because you're on 2024.05 and it's not supported anymore, or running `apt dist-upgrade` and risk ruining everything so muchOP here, this was my 2nd question. If I never want to reinstall, just keep upgrading, does 6-monthly upgrade versions more smoothly than LTS? It's only 6 months of changes each leap vs 2 years of changes. So are the 6 month jumps are less risky in terms of borking the whole OS?
>>106956878>using the pedophile os
>>106963049Look at this answer: https://askubuntu.com/a/1473045You could do ALL THAT, and at *their* pace and timing.Or; use Arch Linux or whatever other good rolling release distro is out there, and update whenever you feel like it, and you're good to go.Couldn't be an easier choice.
>>106960519I mainly use my desktop for gaming (i do everything else on a laptop or just my phone) and gaming has been surprisingly decent with linux too. The new Battlefield is pretty much the only thing that i kinda want to play but can’t run. I switched from win11 about 4 months ago.
>>106963049both the normal ubuntu versions and the LTS versions upgrade perfectly fine,stable and risk-free if you use ubuntu in the 'intended' ways (use software from ubuntu, dont modify system files in ways which might break things). the people who advocate clean installs are usually the type to fuck around with/modify their system files in ways most users dont need to so they sometimes break their entire system.assuming you have the disk space and are using windows right now literally go install ubuntu, you can try it out from the USB stick without installing and after that can install it alongside windows its a perfectly fine choice. in fact it has the biggest install base and almost everything made to work on linux is tested on ubuntu first or has an ubuntu version and there's a good reason for that.
>>106956878>is it possible to use 25.10 until 26.04, and then when I get there to 'change lanes' and hop over to the LTS lane from the 6-monthly lane?Yes. The do-release-upgrade tool does this automatically, IIRC.>Which Ubuntu lane is the best for that?LTS, obviously. Ubuntu is a stable distro and the LTS versions are their real product. The other releases are essentially beta versions of the next LTS.
>>106963159Wrong pic
>>106962945>your OS breathing down your neck telling you "There is a newer version of your distribution available"That's entirely your own mental illness that you're trying to project on me. Yes, there is a newer version of my operating system out there. No, I do not care, because my current version does everything I need it to do, receives security patches and because I'm not mentally ill.
>>106956938>with simple commandsthis is why everyone hate linux btw
>>106963049The dependencies and whatnot are gonna change over time regardless and you're gonna have to resolve them at some point. The question is would you rather only deal with it at set intervals once every 2-3 years or every 6 months or just whenever you happen to install any new software or system updates.AlmaLinux will give you 3 years in-between versions. Ubuntu LTS will give you 2 years. OpenSUSE Leap is something like 12-18 months. Fedora - 6 months. And of course there's rolling release distros like Gentoo, Arch and Tumbleweed, where there's just one supported version and it's the latest.
>>106956878Ubuntu's pretty good, don't forget to install flatpak and flathub.As for your questions:1) Yes, you can switch to only upgrading to LTS on the Software & Updates program (software-properties-gtk)2) I've only had breakages when installing .deb packages and repositories from third parties and even then, most won't cause any harm, if you wanna be extra safe just uninstall them before doing a distro upgrade.
>>106963261The new battlefield looks cool but there’s no fucking way I’m letting it modify my bios and install kernel level spyware just to run. That’s cattle behavior
>>106962945a dist upgrade has never caused me problems, but even so, I always take a full disk backup before attempting any big changes to my OS, so even if it does get fucked up, I can just roll it back and try a different solution
Back to Windows yet, anon?
>>106956878Ubuntu sucks, use Mint or poop os or literally anything else
>>106964764>ubuntu sucks so use ubuntu insteadwhat
I use Ubuntu on all my computers, zero issues. I found in benchmarking my performance on Ubuntu was better than on cachyOS or nobara, im sure that’s just me though. I personally prefer the workflow of Ubuntu compared to other DEs, and stock gnome is actual fucking garbage (seriously, no system tray). I don’t generally recommend the LTS release because it tends to be outdated, the point releases are perfectly stable other than the occasional oddity, like gamescope breaking on 25.04.
>>106964764Ubuntu rocks
>>106956878Ubuntu is really, really bad my dude. It's like they looked at smartphone OS's and were like "yeah, that's what people want".
my first linux distro was fedora in 2017i went from fedora to ubuntu and from ubuntu to linux mint
you know you have mastered linux when you can use it for months without breaking it
i beat simpsons hit and run on ubuntu
fedora being bloated(uses like 3GB of ram out of the box) is what made me switch to ubuntui switched from ubuntu to linux mint because ubuntu LTS was freezing i learned later that it was a ram issue and not ubuntu issuei just stayed with linux mint instead of going back to ubuntu
>>106966614I am kinda new to linux (4 years), and the only point when I outright broke it was when I tried arch linux as my first distro. After a week iwd shat itself and I couldn't fix it. After than that arch-based distros especially are smooth sailing, and issues present themselves very rarely. Sometimes kde gets kinda buggy but there is usually an upgrade that fixes it in the next few days
>>106956878Here is a secret/boot 2gb/boot/efi 500Mb/ 60-120gb luks2Non os partition for the rest also luks 2You can swap out the os at will and not worry about that shit. Total freedom.
>>106956938>is this your first time?>"Done with Windows, ready to switch to Linux"literally basic reading comprehension, anon.
>>106956878get ready to beta test tranny software
>>106962143>and a gnome extension that does the same thing.there's a gnome extension solely for limiting thinkpad batteries. there's an extension for limiting the CPU though.
>>106966614just dont touch system files and you're goldenalso i think on fedora/ubuntu installing another DE sometimes breaks one/both but you can just uninstall. also i have a wierd dependency issue on my fedora that a package i cant update but also cant remove because of some wierd conflict/others depending on itmint is great for this since the initial setup window has you configure timeshift so you can always roll back changes>>106966561i distrohopped for a month last year and landed on fedora kde on my desktop. now recently i tried fedora atomic on my laptop (including rebasing to cosmic/kinoite/sericea/silverblue) and i love it ill probably switch to fedora atomic on my desktop once fedora 43 officially launches>>106966791silverblue with nothing open takes 1.7GB ram on my laptop. you shouldnt be picking distros based on idle ram
>>106968498never managed to break Ubuntu by installing other DEs, but Fedora genuinely does not boot the Wayland GNOME session anymore after I installed an X11 DE. no wonder GDM went back to X11 kek
>>106968797in the atomic version im switching between fedora 43/42 and i3/gnome/kde/cosmic with no issuecan you actually have ubuntu/xubuntu side by side? on the same system? i remember i somehow fucked it up where one of the DEs wouldnt launch and would just display some terminal error instead
>>106956878just so you all know, jews monitor everything, especially how you plan to avoid their tricksso you should fully expect for everything you plan to use to be heavily tampered with in the futurejews will never stop meddling
People get the wrong idea about the non-LTS releases. It's not "beta" software, they are full releases with the same quality/QA as the LTS release. They just have a shorter life cycle. The LTS releases are there for people who don't want massive changes every 6 months. Anyone with modern hardware in a home environment should just use the latest release so they have the best support. You said so in the OP that charge limits aren't in the current LTS. As for upgrading, I've never had an issue upgrading through every version since 18.04. Just follow the standard rule of thumb with all software, wait a week or two after the update comes out before upgrading.
>>106968826>atomicI find that shit hellish for development so I stay far the fuck away from it>can you actually have ubuntu/xubuntu side by side?if you mean something like installing xfce after installing regular Ubuntu then yeah, absolutely, I've had 24.04 and 25.04 installs with several DEs that never gave me issues. Fedora 42 was legitimately the first time a distro ever broke from me doing that.
>>106962945dist-upgrade is an apt function and doesn't move you between Ubuntu versions. You're thinking of do-release-upgrade
>>106968844i wouldnt say it's hell its like 1 extra step to use a container with nonatmomic fedora or just layer all the packages you need on top of the base image. its a tiny hassle you pay in exchange for having a very simple and clean way to move between system images (fedora versions/different DEs/bazzite bluefin and all the ublue distros)fedora cured my distrohopping (atleast for the past year or so) and now fedora-atomic is curing my breaking-my-install-anxiety
>>106957561Everything I do happens inside a terminal, except posting shit on your face which happens in Tor Browser.
>>106966749I beat my meat on omarchy
>>1069568780. I reject Ubuntu for political reasons, but for a Windows refugee Ubuntu is perfect. Don't listen to misdirection to other distros, unless you want to try Mint. Both are based on Debian.1. AFAIK, you can't switch lanes. So prepare for an upgrate when 26.04 LTS comes out. Take it as a learning opportunity. Find out what you want, and then cleanly install it on 26.04.2. LTS. I've never had a problem with Ubuntu upgrades.If you have the time, study the terminal until you get comfortable with it. It's not that you can't do most of what you want in GUI, but you can do more in the terminal. Get a local LLM and ask it questions. Learn how to write bash scripts which will help customize your Linux experience. A couple years of casual learning will pay off, and you'll learn a lot about how your computer works (if you don't know already). Then you'll realize why the Linux/BSD experience is superior.Good luck!
>>106969074>You can't switch lanesThere are no "lanes". There's a series of releases and you can choose to either stay on LTS and only upgrade to another LTS version, or you can upgrade through every version.If OP installs 25.10 today, he can upgrade to 26.04 then in the settings change it so that he doesn't get recommended the 26.10 upgrade. There are some limitations though. People running 24.04 can't upgrade directly to 25.10.
>>106956878Linux doesn’t bork itself anymore on lts, don’t know about non ltsBiggest danger of bork is the first install, if that’s comfy u should be good
>>106957959>Yes, install 25.10the window tiling is pissing my offany way to address that? gnome extensions havent added support for 25.10 yet
>>106957518>jeet post
>>106964519Oh yeah, i’m with you there, was never ever going to install it anyway. Just wanted to use it as an example of a new game that doesn’t work.
>>106968844you're supposed to use containers for development on mutable distros too so you might just be completely retarded
>>106956878Switching to Linux is the best decision you have ever made anon. After you install you only need to do some minor steps such as compiling drivers (ensure you have the right version of the compiler first), get the sound to work (just go to github and find someone that posted drivers for it, and the compiler), get the ethernet card to work, and ensure you are not getting flooded by kernel or sys logs (careful with those as they can grow to fill Gbs in a matter of minutes). But after you get the right drivers for your mouse compiled you are golden. I advise you to get to enjoy doing troubleshoot of your OS every now and then since this is the biggest fun of using Linux.
>>106970979This isn't 2005 anymore. I installed Ubuntu last month and I've no issues with anything besides the in game mic not working in phasmophobia (because it uses Cortana). Would recommend over bloated winshit spyware any day.
I find it really creepy how many linux groomers crawl out to congratulate someone to "switching". I bet troons do that when they con a confused child into believing they can switch genders (pro tip: you cannot).
>>106956878this isn't reddit or stack overflow. go ask chatgpt your retarded questions, faggot.
>>106971055The difference is with linux, you can always change your mind when you arent feeling it. Sometimes too many times
@106971055Low effort shitpost. Awful bait.
>>106964251>muh I need a button plsgrow up retard and learn how computers work
Is Fedora with gnome more stable and reliable than with KDE? Installed F41 couple of months ago on a new pc and the bluetooth was fucked
>>106971553I dunno, sorry anon
ii want to have bazzite in my next full amd (7800x3d/9070xt) build bros , is it recommended (ive watched multiple videos on youtube about bazzite gaming , is it recomennded ?
>>106956878>Which Ubuntu lane is the best for that?LTS. I've been on my LTS installation since 2018 I think
>>106964251doing oddly specific software changes to your computer with a single string of text is why people hate linux? hmm.>>106967011I had used linux a bunch of times before deciding to fully leave windows. Someone entirely new to linux would ask OPs question, faggot.
>>106968944>>106970921if you need immutable guardrails shit to not break your system, you might be the retard>>106972055so you're projecting then, I see lmao
>>106972069you're unemployed and underage, have fun using arch or gentoo or whatever
>>106972055>doing oddly specific software changes to your computer with a single string of text is why people hate linux?Yes retard, because there's no way of knowing said magical command without googling. Do you need to Google to do basic shit on Windows? 99% of the time the answer is no. How is someone gonna know shit like: "chmod +x my_script.sh" without prior knowledge?
>>106971055>using an os is the same as cutting off your cockyou're unironically more mentally ill than people who cut off their own cocks.
>>106956878>I see a lot of people advocating for clean installs every major version, no matter the distro. I don't want to do that, I want to install once and then smoothly upgrade from version to version. Which Ubuntu lane is the best for that?On Ubuntu? None of them. In 99.99% of cases Ubuntu is installed from scratch rather than upgraded.
I regret every single moment of my life that I have spent configuring or learning a piece of software.the more I grow up the more I realize that Linux (or any software that requires configuration and effort to learn) is a total waste of time.if I could go back in time and convince my younger self to not look at computers as anything more than a game console I would.you will gain nothing from configuring your software, there is nothing at the end of that road other than regret and misery. you will be no more efficient than a boomer pointing and clicking a mouse on an old windows laptop.you will have nothing to show, nothing that others care about at least, including your future self. your future self will look at you with as much disgust as any normal person would today. he will never forgive you for wasting that precious time.if this was 10 years ago I might have told you to just invest that time learning how to actually code and make use of existing libraries and platforms. but today the only thing I can tell you is to turn off that laptop and go pickup a real hobby. go touch some grass, learn how to draw, or play an instrument, or whatever.if you use your computer too much that you have to think about saving milliseconds with your shortcuts then you should reevaluate your life. you should never have to sit in front of a computer for that long.
>>106972648>Touch grassMidwit meme. Disregard this anon. Disregard grass. Switch to Linux. When you go outside, close your eyes and bask in the light of the Sun.
>>106972743>When you go outside, close your eyes and bask in the light of the Sun.Fairwit meme. Disregard this point. Disregard the sun. If you go outside, close your eyes and bask in the glow of the moon.
>>106956878>decided on UbuntuDon't. It's funded by Microsoft.If you have to go for a big corpo distro, get Fedora.
>>106956878>Done with Windows, ready to switch to Linuxsee you in a week
>>106956878>So, is it possible to use 25.10 until 26.04, and then when I get there to 'change lanes' and hop over to the LTS lane from the 6-monthly lane?Yes, you can continuously upgrade ubuntu through every version available, although it's not recommended since it's not really well implemented, the best thing you can do is to use 25.10 until 26 releases and do a clean install, and then stay on the 26.04 version until 28.04.>I want to install once and then smoothly upgrade from version to versionI'd recommend debian or lmde without extra repos to achieve this, I installed lmde in my parents' laptop like 6 years ago and it continuously kept itself updated since then after enabling automatic updates.If you want an up to date OS that can be continuously upgraded through versions, I'd recommend fedora with gnome, it's probably the best distro for that purpose and a tad more stable than ubuntu, or at least less retarded error prone than it from my personal experience.
