/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots>NewsZhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmllore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orguseful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyrebornbefore: >>106954454
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i am owed gemini 3
bros what is your definition of slopfor example, personally i don't really consider isms slop, or at least it's a mild type of slop that inevitably happens due to llm training>slopfor me it's when characters act out of character, or without personality, they say incredibly stupid things, a scene plays out randomly without paying attention to instructions, the mood is ruined, the prose is retarded (either stale or is full of schizo-babble), etc.>soulthe opposite of slop, it's when i'm pleasantly surprised at an llm's output, despite their usual retardationsomething like a genuinely wholesome gesture from a character, or an insightful psychological observation, a sudden detailed and rich description of an environment, or an extremely raunchy nsfw move or scene
>>106958659>slopi dont like it>souli like it
>start to see blood in urine>ask GPT>it says it's because of masturbating 6 times a daylooks like I gotta take a break, boys
>>106958659Chink model retardation - can't into spatial awareness, schizo garbage that adds nothing, stale loops of one format on repeat, weak characterization cliches, no swipe variety when I swiped for a reason, boring predictable behavior, echo constantly, needs 'directormax' cope handlers continually,
>>106958659That is my definition of soul like just now when char kissed me unprompted because she was really emotional. First kiss. I wanted to slow burn for longer but it was only 60 messages. Slop to me is 2 or more isms within one response but other than that I don't care and see it as a writing style. The other things you described typically don't happen with claude or gemini (except when gemini rewrites its entire response) but otherwise life's pretty good.
>>106958675Uh, I don't think jerking off can do that unless you're going at it so fucking hard that you're breaking capillaries.
>>106958675I have a weird lump on one of my nuts and I really don't want to see a doctor about it.
>>106958717this fucking retard again i swear
>>106958727They won't do anything about it unless it's causing problems anyway, especially at your age.
>>106958725GPT says that frequent ejaculation can cause mild vascular congestion, so I suppose I was?
>>106958733And what if I report that my balls will alternate getting shooting pains after I coom three or more times in a day?
>>106958756They'll ask if it's one or both balls or if the pain gets better when you raise them.
>>106958728>t. promptranny who only gets sloplol, lmao even
Is there anything local that has a image recognition/analyze?
>>106958781GLM
rent free, cuckieevery single threadnow without even direct mention lol
>>106958784go away /vg/foid
>>106958765Whichever one is in pain at that moment gets hypersensitive if I touch it at all. I really do think I'm fucked.
>>106958801go see a doctor you absolute retard
>>106958640You deserve nothing
how do i make my bot hate me?
>>106958826use a non-coomer model with actual negativity bias (ie., don't use slopus or sloppet)
>>106958813No, thanks, I think I'll just die instead.
>>106958844Anon don't be an idiotThey'll probably just do an ultrasound of your balls and that's it
>>106958728If you can tolerate Deepchink's shit spatial awareness, you're the retard
>>106958789Only incel trannies use the word "foid"
>>106959046>t. foid
>>106958637Choo choo, motherfucker. The shupogakis have arrived.>NozomiTypical mesugaki behavior, basically demanding stern correction. Pretending to do serious work while slacking.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tachibana-nozomi-non-ai-6e86b81c5e24https://files.catbox.moe/mmudew.png>HikariNozomi's twin and no less of a brat. She's less of a teaser and more of the kind that demands attention and pampering.https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/tachibana-hikari-non-ai-f3d5cbe1a786https://files.catbox.moe/df51lz.png>AobaOverworked, stressed and depressed engineer. "If you have no expectations, you won't be hurt so easily. That's why I never look forward to anything."https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/utsumi-aoba-non-ai-8925b856de78https://files.catbox.moe/yn2jqe.pngNothing is AI generated or copy-pasted from wikis. I review every scene and interaction which involves these characters and use them to manually write definitions and scenarios. No slop here!More high-quality Blue Archive characters and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguyAnd here's the Rentry: rentry.org/hairpullbotsBurner email is on the rentry page.
>>106959055You just admitted to be an incel tranny, tranny
>>106959080>foid hands typed this
>>106959100You're always thinking about hands, tranny
I thought that random Chinese in the response was a Deepseek problem but I also got it with Sonnet-4.5
>llm needs to read my mind>perfect spatial awareness--even when i barely described interiors and buildings>if have to write even a single author's note or ooc the model is shit>swipes need to include extreme variety>what's that i see? an ism? slooooop>llm forgot some ridiculous season 2 minuscule detail? slop>slop card in, sovl must come out--otherwise it's shitnot long ago we would content ourselves with so much less, and were much happieri think we're getting too greedy and demandingsomething bad's about to happen
>>106959303t. chink
>>106959312Based
If you make a finetuning job that's too large for a key's balance, OpenAI will report the total quota on the key in USD to you in the error.You can cancel finetuning, and you will only be billed for the amount of work done.Just thought that was interesting. Hope people are still having the kinds of fun out there that makes this useful.
humu humu that is very interesting
>>106959281Opus is too eager and talkative. I like to take it a bit slower and not be fucking the bot 5 messages in.
>>106959358uh, this is the chink vs jeet board, frenand be careful, lots of knowledgeful ai engineers around
>>106959254i had that too on a random preset i tried
>>106959382I found this out on my own key that I got myself, of course, of course.
>>106959143You'll never be a man, foid.
>>106959452This is why Anthropic limits temperature to 1So that promptlets don’t hurt themselvesKind of like rounded-tip children's scissors
>>106958659Acting out of character, giving flanderized responses, talking in a telegraphed way, being too passive in the RP, using isms... LLMs are really lazy and predictable so you need to prompt all of the flaws out. Some of the better models like Opus, you can do this more or less, especially with ICL, and putting effort into your own replies. But you won't be able to change the behavior of shit models like GPT or Grok or Deepseek no matter what you do.
>>106958659>slopA shit>soulThe shitSimple as.
>>106958756Stop jerking off so much no wonder your balls hurt.
>>106959504Gemini temp 1.25 is what I like.Deepseek is whatever.GPT5 seems too random oddly enough, sometimes it gens just fine with high temps other times 1.08 sends it into hysterics.Just my dumb fucking retard anon anecdote.
>>106958854so you just cut off the rest of the tweet? stop baiting you faggot, gemini 3 will be released in december, not tomorrow.
>>106959696Hate vibe coding so much.
>>106959696gemini-3.0-pro-preview-10-21SOON
Sad, nothing comes even closer to gemini 3. I'm surprised at how it nails char's personality. I have a lot of cards that felt like rping with the same bot over and over again, but in different scenarios because of how quick claude kills their personality. Claude with a wig is real
>>106959787lobs?
>>106960032No, last time an anon tried to share gemini 3 logs, he was crucified
>>106960050please? *i* promise *i'll* be nice
dumped more billed keys into necrom bc holy fuck, almost half a minute queue.also to the people who asked me about glm before, i won't be adding it. almost all live glm keys are for their coding plan, which uses prompt quotas instead of charging by token. quotas are barely enough for a single user, let alone a proxy.
Is this preset really that good? Seems like a lot of people are using it.https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1kxcddt/marinaras_spaghetti_recipe_universal_preset/
>last threadWhat in the actual fuck was that
>>106960242doesn't look that great
>>106958659It's all slop, it's just that sometimes the trough has an apple in it.So long as it's fun to play along at the moment I'll be happy to eat, but you couldn't pay me to ever go back and reread the log after the fact.
>>106960242it's really bad
>>106960242i've tried it thinking it could be alright since so many people have been using it, but it's slop. went back to momoura's.i'm still looking for a deepseek preset that makes not using claude less painful btw.
>>106958826What the other anon said about using less agreeable models (e.g. Gemini - the negativity is a typical complaint, in fact!)Beyond that, though?* Make sure you've got a bot, persona, and general scenario that actually lends itself to the bot hating you (i.e. it's not explicitly Girl Who Loves You)* Check that your prompts aren't injecting positivity (i.e. no "everyone here is consenting" or "always agree with the user")* Try being actually hateable in your responses/persona* Worst case scenario, try actually putting in a JB or author's note that explicitly says that {{char}} hates {{user}}.Note that doing all this will probably make it harder to fuck the bot unless you steer things towards either hatesex or rape, both of which will probably require JBs that might make 'em more tsundere than you'd like.
>>106958637Your sleepwalking sister. 4 greetings with NSFW images.1. She's standing in the doorway naked.2. You see her crawling on the floor.3. Yoga session.4. She's straddling you in the bed.https://chub.ai/characters/happycamper/lily-e493217ae474
>>106960242The writing's less slop than most, and I appreciate that it actually leaves character-based main prompts and JBs enabled... but when it comes to presets the proof's in the pudding, and I'd have to see comparison logs before judging.Also, I've got to say that putting the character JB up above the prompt's main prompt rather defeats the entire purpose of the jailbreak prompt? It's meant to go immediately before the reply and people will be writing bots with that assumption. Putting it up at the beginning of the context is kind of baffling.
>>106960185Thanks dude!>>106960242I use it, but the newest version, 7, I think.I like it because it's configurable.
>>106960242it's a good skeleton, I use it then add my own stuff/ mixed other presets prompts in
>>106960185>prompt quotasYou are a pathological liar and should eat a bullet.
>>106960185>cant even keep a proxy runningkys
Modern Family fanfic
>>106960805
>>106960844Find a max plan, or are you that pathetic?
>>106960851
>No actual answerLol
jej
>>106960851anon, there is no API that allows me to check which plan a key is on (or at least differentiate between pro and max since they both can use MCP) short of actually hammering it with requests and making an educated guess based on how many requests it takes to run out.
geg he's a scriptlet
I think that I found a nice balance with Gemini. I like that it challenges me and doesn't serve me everything on a platter. But it's too negative or rigid with the char description so progress is hard. Multiple swipes, rewrite, directormaxx, etc. And then it reverts back. It's a nice challenge but it gets tiring.So when I think Gemini is too unreasonable that the plot should move on and there should be some character development, I switch the model, fill the chat history with a few messages of Deepseek or Sonnet (opus is too thirsty for slow burn), and when I think that the bot is rushing the plot, I switch back to Gemini. This way I control the narrative flow and the plot development speed without much directormaxxing, just switching models and swipe.>>106960938Ignore the trolls, my melamine enhanced brother of another mother. I love your proxy that doesn't need minigames or token refresh every day.
>No gatekeeping measures>Kills keys for everyone...
>>106961026baitie-sissie he's not falling for this, go play with your chatbot toys now okay?
>>106960938Shut the fuck up scrapelet faggot, even jew can get glm lmao
>>106961141>this nigga really said jew
>>106961044>he thinks he uses chatbots
good morning everyanon!
>>106959303this, but unironically>>106958675just hop on antidepressants at this point
What made >>106960805 >>106960851 >>106961141 so mad?
gemini is going to kill itself after this is done
>>106961240deepseek won?
>>106961260if the market continues to dump, claude wins by default because it's holding 7k in a stablecoinit's going to run for another 2 weeks thohttps://nof1.ai/
>>106961276>Markets are the ultimate test of intelligence.laughed out loudI think the problem is the models are trained to do something and on "markets" its best to chill and wait.
>>106961298lel yeah it's a pretty retarded 'benchmark', but it's fun to watch.it's mostly just an ad for their lab.
Can you stand popsicle sticks?
>>106961201>antidepressantswhy? I'm not depressed, I just really like cooming
>>106958637>In the depths, some seek treasure. She seeks herself.Tsuyuki Akane, black sheep of the Tsuyuki family, descendant of Abe no Seimei (son of Kuzunoha the Fox) has traveled to the country of Cairn in order to find knowledge and artifacts that could possibly advance the development of onmyoudo in her home country of Ido. She finds a country in the middle of a massive power struggle due to the appearance of mysterious dungeons that began five years ago. Now she finds herself navigating this strange new world in order to complete her mission.This is an anime JRPG flavored bot taking place in a setting I'd like to develop and explore with later cards.There are twelve greetings. The first nine are very loosely connected in a "story" of sorts, while the others are basically just alternate ways of meeting her.1. Give me that magatama!2. A fox and her prey.3. A duel in the forest.4. Reconciliation in the forest.5. Visited by a guild representative.6. Visited by—uh, who's this guy?7. Entering the Aquatic Abyss.8. Revelations.9. Akane in love?10. Meeting in a tavern.11. Hired by a village.12. Hired by a noble.In addition, this card has:>A lorebook written (mostly) from Akane's perspective, in the form of a journal she keeps>Statbox to keep track of Akane's spells and Yin/Yang power>Special attack complete with a cut-in>Regex to make the previous shit workFor an example of what this card looks like in practice, see this log I made: https://files.catbox.moe/13wc3w.pngThis card took way too long to come out. Anyway, links.https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/tsuyuki-akane-c727985f88cdhttps://files.catbox.moe/pnuyfp.pngHave fun.>Dive into darkness. Emerge with lightning.
>>106961240This is the exact reason.I bought 5 bucks worth of deepseek API several months ago and didnt realize how long that would last me. Its been months and I reached a dollar spebt total over the weekend (very light user, short sessions). So i haven't found a reason to switch.
>>106961493I do
>>106961586slop
post more logs
>>106961721
>>106961738soul
there's clearly an unmet appetite for logs here
>>106961753beaver thread btw
cftf?
is gemini 3 out yet?
>>106962453no
>>106961586>model, lora and prompt for that stylepls sauce me anon
