More telemetry, less user control, worse performance

>>106961951
Fpbp

>>106961951
>less user control
In what way?
>worse performance
Seems the same to me.

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>>106961942
>There's hardly any difference between it and 10.

>>106961942
the control panel settings and the new "settings" feature arent in sync with each other and some of them are missing.
its a clusterfuck of a minefield and isnt even finished

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>>106961942
It doesn't look GOOD... very ugly, designed by MILLENNIALS... can't access my NEWSGROUP without lag.... i will stick to this,,, thank you...
my son he is good with COMPUTERS installed it for me

>>106961942
its sacrificed ease of use for making it look prettier and like a phone OS.
what would take two clicks on Windows 10 now takes three because its hidden away. it was obviously made by girls

>>106961975
>>106962020
Like what?

>>106962030
if you dont know that tells me you are a casual user who doesnt actually do anything serious within Windows.

the audio settings, the network settings, the account settings, the power settings should be enough for you to look at for now. give it a try.

change a setting in control panel and see if it changes in Settings. or try it the other way round

>>106961968
If I can't switch my taskbar to a different side of the screen, have to have Microsoft's useless AI thrown in basically anywhere possible and have to "learn" shitty UX changes because it's prettier and more productive (no it isn't), I'm not using it.

That and it runs like ass on low-end hardware, if you can run it. I have to jump through hoops because Microsoft wants me to be logged in to their account 24/7 on an OS.

They made Windows into MacOS for even bigger retards than those who already use it.

Funny how the new jeet UX team wasn't able to jeetify so much of the legacy toolkit that's used in all the "real" settings apps. They are just pulling from the legacy and making a shitty web app that they always put in a consolidating "do you just want to use the actual legacy app bc we're retarded and give up?"

>>106961942
>Why do you dislike Windows 11?
Can't do any screen resolution less than 1366x768 on a 16:9 display. Really enjoyed using 1280x1024 on my 1080p laptop.

>>106961942
The start menu runs on react

>>106962102
It runs fine on my 8th gen intel thinkpad which is about the oldest hardware you can run it on. You can switch to a local account easily on Pro, don't know about Home. I don't really care about the context menu, actually kind of like it. If you really hate it so much there's a workaround.

imagine still complaining about windows 11 meanwhile i'm on windows 11 with windows 7 task bar lmfao

I mainly use linux but use windows at work and dual boot for fortnite, and whenever i do it encounter weird issues. At come certain windows open in wron workspaces. Sometimes audio stops working when i plug and unplug muy headphones. Idk tons of weird stuff. 10 wasnt good but it was better

>>106961968
Not even gonna address >More telemetry?

>>106962222
I don't really know or care about the issue so I don't comment on it. Rather if it's such an important issue maybe you should demonstrate in what way it has more telemetry and what additional information it collects compared to Windows 10.

>>106962140
>works on my machine
Good for you, 8th gen is what... 8 years old? it's not 2005 anymore, chips from 15 years ago are still usable and can be, but you have to work around it because "uhhhhhhh you just can't okay?!?!?!"
>b-but you can switch it to local later!
An OS is not an email account, it's supposed to be local and NOTHING ELSE. There is zero reason for it to require you to log in every time at startup.
>I like the context menu
It took what was good and made it fancier and newer and worse and no one I know tolerates it, fixing a problem that didn't exist.
>b-b-but there are workarounds
I hate it so much because there shouldn't be a workaround to begin with. The system should not be retarded by default.

>>106961942
AI slop eveywhere
Use Linux and/or Mac

>>106962260
Well yes I agree that older chips should be able to run it but they're not officially supported. And they have their security reasons for that, some feature that's only present in 8th gen intel and later and 2nd gen ryzen and later.

You're not required to login to your Microsoft account at every startup, only on the initial installation, after which you can switch entirely to a local account.

Ok if the context menu is such a deal breaker for you then whatever but it's weird to say that Windows 11 is the worst thing ever because of this small difference that can be changed.

>>106961942
the differences
like the right click adding more clicks
and the task bar removing features
and the random breaking changes they push through updates (2 times this week alone)

>>106961942
>There's hardly any difference between it and 10
>interactions with W95 just work
>interactions with W98 just work and it is a bit more capable
>interactions with XP just work and it is quite more capable
>interactions with W7 just work and it is much more capable
>interactions with W10 just work but they added some spy shit in the OS, can work around it
>interactions with W11 don't work anymore and your computer belongs to MS
>UI bugs and glitches
>major lags and slowdowns
>hidden & removed functionality with nothing to replace it
>a billion spy processes that can't be removed
>experience is terrible
W11 is the worst OS in the entire history of MS, surpassing ME and Vista in the cancerous aspect
And as MS is ruined there won't be a comeback. It's time for Linux or Apple.

Micro$hit devs are using AI to code W11, thats why when they update something, another thing breaks

>>106962360
what lags and slowdowns? my computer works great with windows 11.

>>106962276
>Linux
>Drops my 8h battery to 5h

>Mac
No

>>106962297
The "security reasons" are just Microsoft being lazy and having a convenient excuse in "oh the old systems don't have TPM 2.0 sorry guys". Even if you get a TPM chip (which you shouldn't), it still won't work because the CPU's too old (even though it's really not, all it needs is SSE4 iirc and even that's bad imo).

Okay, my bad, but it doesn't matter if I have to do it once or every time. I shouldn't have to do it, ever.

Windows 11 isn't the worst thing ever, but it's another thing Microsoft took and made worse for additional profit. Why do you think they push AI and telemetry so hard, because it's helpful? They push it to take your sweet, sweet personal data and sell it on. It's been an ever-expanding problem since Windows 8, and there's no wonder people think Windows 7's the best one.

Not to add how in the last year there's been at least 3 updates where stuff broke for no apparent reason, even now there's one in the news.

>>106962409
>beging an absolute poorfag

>>106961942
It reminds me of your mom. It can recall everything bad about me in instant seconds.

>>106962423
I'm not spending $1000 on what is a niche use device for me
I have a phone, tablet, laptop and desktop
My laptop only gets used if I travel or if I want to fuck with my server stack from the couch
In both instances it needs to have as much battery as possible but I refuse to spend money on it.
I'll use my "stolen from work" laptop like a normal IT peon

>>106961968
>I9 7960x
>Fresh install win11
>Cinebench r24 940 PTS
>Fresh install win10
>Cinebench r24 1020 PTS
Huh

>>106961942
I dont even like win 10. But atleast i never had a major issue where an update litterally kills my PC
30% ai vibe coding with 70% shit encrusted jeet code brings the term enshitification to reality with windows 11.
Its garbage found in the ganges river and made workable by the highest echelon of indian. The 95iq brahmin who knows how to use a toilet but not the paper or bidet.

>>106961968
>In what way?
Now i know yoyre arguing in bad faith.
Its not even bait at this point.

>>106962625
It's your prerogative to throw a tantrum and stomp off when asked to substantiate your claims, baby duck.

>>106962242
Kill yourself. Youre not even trying.
This isnt an us problem, its a you problem.
>N-no theres nothibn wrong with it saar please demonstrate the issue that is well known and blatant saar.
Pakistan should have fucking nuked india.

>>106962646
It's a you problem, baby duck. You don't even know why you're mad.

>>106962639
The claims are blatantly verifiable. All you have to do is open the start menu.

>>106962668
I aint mad. Im not going to use your windows jeet ware.
Theres nothing you can do about it either.
Youre thebone clearly bothered enough that you needed to make a thread about it to cope with your people poor skills in well, everything.

>>106961942
My work pc has been slow ever since the windows 11 update.

>>106961942
>Replaced search with ai
>React UI leading to extremely poor performance
>Ai training off of your desktop with screenshots every few seconds
>No more local accounts
>Bricks ssds
I am not sacrificing my hardware, and paying for the electricity and internet to train microshit's slop generator for them.

>>106962379
It's not your computer if that malware is on it, and it would perform a lot better on any other OS. Pick one where half your resources aren't dedicated to we apps for your UI and training AI slop

Just keep this into you tiny little brain
EVERYTHING COMING FROM MICROSOFT IS GARBAGE

>>106961942
Number one, I use some old shit for work that I'm surprised even works on 10. Not sure if it'll work on 11 and finding out doesn't feel like a very compelling use of my time.
Number two, just a few days ago they managed to push an update that broke fucking localhost of all things.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/16/windows_11_update_localhost/
Number three, I'm not entirely convinced that it won't try to force me to convert my local account to an MS one if I upgrade.

>>106961942
I don't mind Win11 visually or performance wise. It's just what M$ is pushing.
>increased telemetry
Even on 11 LTSC, it's a fucking joke.
>recall, copilot, forced M$ account
Yes, recall is just passively active on LTSC, but still.
>Targeted ADs
via Microsoft AD ID (recorded keystrokes, installed apps, search history)
>Cloud focus
Normies that buy a PC with Win11 25h2 will be forced to login with an account and by default your fucking Home Folders (Pictures, documents etc.) will be uploaded into the cloud.
>Last words
I don't mind windows, I still use it (10 LTSC) but they showed with Win11 in what direction they want to go and this time it's not only privacy schizos complaining, more and more people are annoyed and this is just 11, try to imagine how 12 will be. But honestly, it's predictable even M$ gayming branch (xbox) is so hardcore cloud focused, as well as their main source of income (subs and cloud) and ik for the average /g/ person debloating, uninstalling shit, using LTSC is easy, but remember you are the minority. And yes, I got redpilled on Linux, I can't use anything other but open source for something as private as an operating system, where you do basically everything.

>>106961942
>Why do you dislike Windows 11?
Because it's even worse than Windows 10.

>b-but it's only slightly worse
IDC by how much, as long as it's worse I'm not going to use it.

I know it's hard for an ADHD updooter to understand this, but you should try.
And if you just want to tinker with new OSs all day, you might as well go full tranny and install Linux distros. There are many groomers on this board that will assist you with that hobby.

Everyone in this thread uses windows 11 and only says they hate it because they think its gonna get them laid in case one of the other users is female and thinks windows 11 is dogshit as well. You can't prove me otherwise and I am saying this because I do not care to have sex. You're all retarded and need to shut the fuck up about "b-but it steals your information" no one actually fucking cares and if you did care you wouldn't be on the internet in the first place, nor would you use ANY service in the world that sells your information. Name 1 fucking company that doesn't sell your information to big tech these days. WHO the FUCK cares, oh no you're being advertised to buy new shit, welcome to capitalism. Enjoy your stay or stop using products alltogether.

>>106963513
>Everyone in this thread uses windows 11
Windows 10 still has ~40% market share, Windows 11 has the worst adoption rates ever.

>>106963513
>if you hate society then why are you participating in it? I'm so smart
Congratulations, you've proven yourself to be even more retarded than the Windows shills ITT.

>>106963695
yea i'm the retarded one for seeing that people participate in society and that microsoft is just doing it better. Riiight.

>>106961942
It's malicious spyware that randomly breaks because there is no quality control at Microshit.
Why does MS think they can charge $100 for software that spies on you and doesn't work when other people give away working software in the same category for free?

>>106962102
>Microsoft's useless AI thrown in basically anywhere possible
And how is it different from Windows 10 which did the same with an objectively even shittier version of AI?

>>106961942
I don't like the number 11

>>106961942
I really don't get how anyone ever thought Windows 10 was ever good. I can honestly understand the sentiment behind 7 because arguably, despite its issues, it's still an OS and not a shitty proxy spyware to shill Microsoft products. I booked it a decade ago, what with forcing Cortana everywhere, shitty minimalistic metro ui, ads on. start button, abstracting controls, etc...
>>106961951
How do you even know it's worse?

>>106964538
I'm sure in a few more years these same retards will be praising 11 once MS forces 12 on everyone.

>>106961942
kys

>>106961942
I dislike both, it's just 11's changes make me dislike it more.

>>106963513
There's a pretty big difference between a given website documenting your usage of that website and an OS with centralized documentation of literally everything you do. It's the difference between a court reporter and a telescreen inside your phone. Also, use a good browser with NoScript.

>>106964538
1. it actually worked
2. you could remove the spyware on LTSC
3. Steam ended support for 7, so gaymers didn't have a choice

>>106966122
Unless microsoft is gonna send goons after me for downloading nintendo games I don't think I have to worry lmfao

>>106961942
haha OP I love froggo XD

>>106966418
Nintendo will.

>>106961942
Correct. Only a literal 65iq feral shitskin would say they had it good with 10 while in reality 11 is the exact same garbage only that enjeetification has made all the spying and sluggishness somewhat more in your face. Both 10 and 11 simps please rope and stop breathing my air.

>>106961942
It's ugly

no, they're gonna shove an "update" down your throat one day, that makes it impossible to run .exe files without kernel-level DRM checks and you can only use the Microsoft Store. its gonna be 100 percent a smartphone. This is Microsoft's target clientele now

>>106961942
Who said I liked Windows 10? Windows 11 is more of the exact shit I didn't like about Windows 10. Now I don't want to use Windows anymore.

>>106961942
I was using deboated versions of Windows my entire life, then debloated LTSB/LTSC. Win 10 LTSC 2021 is the most usable, stable and clean version to date.
But I'll switch to Debian stable before the end of LTSC support because that Win 11 crap will not get installed on any of my PCs.

>>106961951
Agreed but this has been true from Windows XP onwards.
XP source code leak proved that it doesn't have telemetry, that shit was added in Vista or 7 (can't remember which one).

>>106961968
>react start menu
Enough said.

>>106961942
Can't set the taskbar on the side, it's unusable.

>>106961942
>>106961951
This removes the bloatware and makes Windows 11 usable.

https://atlasos.net/

>>106966537
nintendo aint doing shit unless im torrenting which I don't do.

>>106966721
>telemetry, that shit was added in Vista or 7
Vista, but it was less intrusive due to the infrastructure required to deploy it not being fully developed back then. This is "fixed" in Win7 and that's when they ax the blinking network traffick icon so people wouldn't freak out.

Because it's helping you conquer our country, nonce. Yes, feed usersata from the lower economic wrungs of America and elsewhere (windows users) to US-embedded Brahmin tech workers to mine for money—and ergo, ultimately, social status.

>>106961942
The right click menu angers me, as does the additional telemetry.

>>106961942
Why dont you have sex with monkeys? Your dna is 94% similar

I just hate the bloat and needing an account

>>106961942
Because I dislike 10 too. Fucking spyware infested slow piece of shit.

>>106962176
>I mainly use linux
No one asked, no one cares.

>>106962639
>sar he is doing the baby duark sar. he is refusing to updoot from the ancient and out of date unsupported (actually still supported) operating system sar. pls do not redeem the 10 year old opperating system and upgrade to the 5 year old opperating system. it is hindu secure made by java expert DOCTOR Bahumitvishinu

you worthless shitskins are insufferable

>>106961942
>Why do you dislike Windows 11?
Why do you like windows 11 or window 10 for that matter? Both are dogshit with windows 10 being slightly less dogshit.

>>106971557
If the users 'had' a choice to install an older Windows® OS on newer hardware and avoid Windows® 10, they absolutely would - as this has been shown and demonstrated previously with XP and later with Windows® 7. Instead, the corpofascist niggers at Redmond decided to intentionally force hardware manufacturers to stop releasing compatible drivers for "unsupported" Windows® operating systems. Fucking niggers took away the choice and are now forcing everyone to go along with their New Normal AI slop.

>>106971606
I am pretty sure nobody was forced to stop, they just stopped because it wasn't economically viable to do so.

>>106971786
I'm pretty sure the mobo manufacturers were forced to remove drivers for older operating systems they offered as a selling point. Microshaft niggers threatened them in confidential emails and they were forced to remove it

Microshaft even went as far as shutting down the forums which had communities working on backported drivers. Microshaft at Redmond are certified niggers.

And now Microshaft owns Github. Imagine hosting your shit on Github and still, in 2025, thinking it's "convenient".

>>106971786
>its not economically viable to release the thing you already made

you should kill yourself. stupid retarded faggots like you only exist to enable this kind of abusive behavior. you arent just a danger to yourself, but you collectively harm everyone around you with your miserable existence.

>im a multibillion dollar corporation, i cant AFFORD to let this program that ran on windows 7 to keep running on windows 7. ITS TOO COSTLY, I CANT HANDLE IT. ONCE THE EOS HAPPENED, EVERYONE COLLECTIVELY LOST THEIR ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE AND DATA AND NOW WE HAVE TO BUILD ALL THE WINDOW 7 COMPATIBLE BUILDS FROM SCRATCH. COMPUTERS ARE MAGIC AND WE NEED TO TRAIN NEW WIIZARDS. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND? ITS COMPLICATED.


These mother fuckers go out of their way to delete old builds, old drivers, old programs. they want older opperating systems GONE from your MIND, it has nothing to do with how much it costs them and all to do with how much they can control you. If you grow up in a windows 11 environment and never know anything else, then you wont complain when it takes2 seconds to right click and you wont care that you had to sign a 1000 page tos to agree to like microsoft ransomware all your files behind bitlocker or onedrive.

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I'm going back to 7

>>106961968
>Seems the same to me.
Simps like you are one of the main reasons for the enjeetification of computing

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>install windows 11
>won't let me proceed without connecting to the internet
>no driver, the driver I provide isn't trusted by windows
>finally find the driver it likes, using a different machine
>connect to internet
>won't let me skip creating a microsoft account
>a literal fucking ms office ad
>three questions about sending telemetry, one has answers that range from yes (all of it) to yes (some)
>a literal fucking onedrive ad
>finally boot, second monitor doesn't work
>have to manually update all drivers, even though i just spent 20 minutes on windows downloading updates
>monitor works, won't display all the resolutions unless i manually pick the correct refresh rate
>next day update
>GET ANOTHER FUCKING AD AFTER
1/2

>>106975882
>one day i get asked to change my fucking pin on login screen because "admin/my organization requires it"
>what the actual fuck
>try to install a program
>it won't let me due to le security rules
>wtf
>check if im admin
>yes
>confirm in powershell
>no option to run as admin in the context menu
>still doesn't let me install
>finally, log out of my university account
>works
fucking kek. then yesterday
>connect an lg smart tv
>detects it, lets me change resolution in the settings, but tv receives no signal
>think tv is busted as i haven't used it in a long time, connect my t480 running arch + hyprland which i barely set up
>instantly connects
>turns out i have to turn off le hdmi deep color on the tv for it to work with windows
what's the fucking point? if it wasn't for photoshop/vidyagayms i would switch to linux on the second device, there's literally NO FUCKING EXCUSE when shit on linux "just works" and windows doesn't. that's the whole point.