Fucking finally
>demand increases by 650%>from 0.000000000000032% to 0.000000000002%No they don't, lmao, only the eternal contrarian altright chud will do it.
>>106969283i will use candles and burn down my entire city before i pay (((them))) for (((leds)))
>>106969349Dude every normie over 45 has been looking for incandescent bulbs, but making do with CFLs. It's only late millennials and younger who tolerate LEDs
>>106969466Post pics of people using those filaments bulb for normal lightingThe only place where they're common is in cars, but tungsten-halogen bulbs
>>106969483Anecdotes and pictures are ok but numbers are better. Bottom line up front: >Incandescent Light Bulbs Market size is estimated to be USD 5.12 Billion in 2024 and is expected to reach USD 7.39 Billion by 2033 at a CAGR of 4.5% from 2026 to 2033.https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/incandescent-light-bulbs-market-trends-drivers-tlmkf
>>106969283Still illegal in my country.
>>106969466>Every normie over 45I'm not in my 40s and I fucking HATE LED lights. They ruined my town and I no longer can take walks at night due to the whole place being sterilized and polluted with the blinding cancerous bullshit.
>>106969514Yeah the death of sodium lamps has been depressing and ugly, and has also started displacing pollinating insects
>>106969507>slop pic, slop article
sodium lamps only had one color so people with no taste can't show itLEDs are fine, but the color temp and wattage choices that people made are cancerwho knew the people in charge are so soulless
>>106969532Prove it wrong, cunt, you can't because people still prefer black body radiation for everyday lighting and it took several governments threatening to imprison or kill anyone who sold residential incandescent bulbs to even make a dent in sales (which are rebounding)
What's with the LED hate?They're so much better than CFLs ever wereUnless you're unironically lighting your house with gamer LEDsAlso if you have lights over 3600k outside of your kitchen you're an actual psychopath
>>106969283Ok for real though what is the goddamn deal with LED bulbs? Why does it seem like they actually die quicker than incandescent ever did? What the fuck man they were supposed to last forever. I feel like we have been completely scammed.
>>106969766Chinks cheap out and don't put actual heatsinks in them. Components like the capacitors fail due to the excess heat.
>>106969766Have you watched the video on the dubai lamp?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klaJqofCsu4LEDs are purposely made to not last as long as they potentially could.
>>106969766it's usually their power supplies that die, because people keep buying cheap chinese garbage.they're also not as efficient as they should be, because they run fewer leds at higher power, where they're less efficient
Can't leds just mimic the light old lightbulbs put off?
>>106969759They are fucking gay and make the entire world look gay.
>>106969778They’re also overdriven, and susceptible to arcson the line (like a shitty switch can kill them).The leds themselves, when properly driven, have an indefinite lifespan. TI, in the 80s, figured that after 50 years they might be slightly dimmer.
>>106969466>It's only late millennials and younger who tolerate LEDsZillennial here, I don't tolerate LEDs, they're literally all the fucking stores sell.
>>106969766>Why does it seem like they actually die quicker than incandescent ever did?no refunds, goy
>>106969811of course they can, you can get high CRI led bulbs that are indistinguishable from incandescents, it's just that normal people have no clue what good lighting looks like so there's no incentive for the manufacturers to market them.
>>106969759>What's with the LED hate?look at the blue spike on the graph you posted
>>106969942What are some good high CRI bulbs?
>>106969766https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
My bedroom is lit with this botnet chinkshit. It connects to my wifi. I can control the color, temperature, brightness, etc from my phone. It wasn't very expensive and I've been using it for years. Those filament shits we had when I was a kid usually lasted 1 to one and a half years.
>>106969952It is not ideal but it is still better than CFLs ever wereYou really shouldn't be using high enough color temperature for it to be noticeable unless you're in a hospital or professional kitchen
>>106969999checkedI like LEDs because they can be far brighter than incandescent light bulbs were, but I hope they'll eventually fix the blue spike.
where do i get CRI95+ bulbs without paying fucking $30 it being some RGBT gamer shit like this >>106969992
>>106969959idk i'm too poor to buy them, i just know they exist
>>106969759qled lights should fix that you can figure the spectrum for the dots and remove the blue part.
>>106969283I hate "and this is why you should" articles so fucking much it's unreal
>>106969283yeah no thanks single bulb having draw of xeon server and making nicotine colored light. depressing as fuck, I love my 6500K leds.I would totally run sodium floodlight for the backyard tho.>>106969466>It's only late millennials and younger who tolerate LEDsI'm gen-x
>>106970027you can get a high CRI LED for best color rendition.
I swear all the hate on LED lighting is coming from people who pick up the cheapest fucking bulbs they can find at Walmart with sub-70 CRI at too high of a colour temperatureGet some 2700K - 3000K >90CRI bulbs
>>106970242I don't think they sell any in my shithole of a country, especially over 1000 lumen and with less or equal than 3000K color temperature.
>>106970285It's other way around where I live. All the cheap bulbs are 3000K and it's really hard and expensive to find daylight ones.
>modern light bulbs are supposed to last 100 years>I've replaced 4 in the past yearWhy aren't light bulbs a solved science by now?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=y51VUsotZe4
>>106970336They ARE solvedThe jews just don't want you to buy one and be done for life
>>106970336Should have bought LED bulbs.
>>106969999incandescent sissies, our response?
>>106970434this
>>106969507>inflate the price of incandescent bulbs because they're now "rare">market size increases
>>106969759Don't know where you live, but here CFL only belonged, like women, in the kitchen. Another exception was classrooms, offices and large areas where by sheer number you could sorta ignore the hellish flicker.
>>106969283That's a LED
I'm happy with the two 2500lm CRI90 RGBW bulbs in my living room/work space.Reaching the same luminosity with incandescent bulbs would require 350W which sounds like a potential fire hazard.
>>106970540Imagine dumping 350W of heat into your room purely from lightinglmao
>>106969797Trying to find LED lamps which can take G4/GU5.3 LED bulbs is also almost impossible. A handful of ceiling spots and that's it.You either use 220V bulbs, with all the stupidity of putting a 220V power supply in the bulb, or you can get lamps with no replaceable parts at all.Industry should long ago have made a LED specific lamp socket, designed ground up for 12V DC with PWM dimming. For the cheapest lamps you could then just use 3 LEDS and a resistor, still perfectly dimmable.
>>106969457>(((them)))Chinese sweatshop workers?
>>106969466>has been looking for incandescent bulbs, but making do with CFLsYou can make them yourself out of garbage.
>>106969811>>106969942No, incandescent bulbs emitted black body radiation from tungsten so it has a smooth normal distribution while LEDs you git a big spike from the diode bandgap that maybe gets smoothed out from phosphor (which is pretty much exactly how florescent lights work) or gets faked by combining three different lights with different bandgaps.
>>106969820gays are efficient, don't mock the court eunuchs unless you want to live in a shack like Ted Kaczinsky.
>>1069692832700K is the endgame.
>>106969999good demonstration of why people look ill/dead under LED
>>106970242>spend loads of money on a bulb that is strictly inferior to a $1 halogen
>>106970277Which is twice as funny since even fucking IKEA sells 2700k 90CRI bulbs, that cost like 4€ for a two-pack.
>>106970842link
>>106970852>linkFor... IKEA webstore? https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/solhetta-led-leuchtmittel-e27-470-lm-rund-opalweiss-50591482/
>>106970876meh
>>106970891As long as it's not green tinted morgue light.
>>106969283Are flashlights better with LED or incandescent light?
>>106969759they arent better the spikes in the blue light fuck with your circadian rhythm, the the lack of red light makes you mentally ill, ontop of that they have awful colour accuracy incadescent have a cri of like 99 and the majority of leds arent anywhere near that. leds also have a strobning fflicker that isnt noticable by eye but fucks with your head the reason theyve been banned in europe and america is to make us all depressed in a way people wont notice. every single led bulb has a sharp dropoff in the red light spectrum and those wavelengths are very good for you https://optimizeyourbiology.com/light-bulb-database
my lightbulb brings all the schizos to the yard
Incandescent bulbs are obsolete. Just have an IQ over 70 and you should be able to avoid accidentally buying cool temp, low CRI LEDs.
>>106970918yeah at least the peaks aren't at green like many warm white LEDs
>>106971358your R9, Rf and Rg?
Is electricity ultra cheap in America?If you were to replace your bulbs back to incadescent your powerbills will go up 3-4 times in price.
>>106971576obviously depends on region, but here in florida main power draw is air conditioning not lighting.
>>106971804incandescent bulbs will make the AC draw even more power since they create a ton of heat
Yeah it seems that these shizo zoomers forgot that the main reason to move away from indescents was >big power savings (you would care if you are an adult that actually pays the bills)>LEDs are not literal mini radiation heaters (relevant in hot countries/cities/climates)But hey, keep yapping how white color literally makes you depressed and vomit if that makes you feel better.
>>106971815i don't think the heat load compares enough to that of the sun outside in a small house like mine, it probably does matter when you get into large factories and stuff. I remember at work when we switched to LED electric bill went down a bunch.
>>106969283What is the weird chud hard-on for incandescent?Is it the conservative version of VHS/Cassette collectors despite those formats also being fucking ass?>>106969766I've replaced exactly one LED bulb in the last decade in my place and it's because that light fixture is kind of shitty already but it was cheaper and easier to buy a 2 dollar LED than go and buy a new fixture.
>>106969283Dumb. They cost fortune to turn electricity into heat. Even if you don't care about the climate, care about bills. LED bulbs are the best invention of the 20th century.
>>106969787>LEDs are purposely made to not last as long as they potentially could.You can replace LED with literally any mass produced thing and you would still be right, do zoomers on t know about planned obsolescence? Which, funny enough, started with old lightbulbs.
>>106969646>the color temp and wattage choices that people made are cancerA fucking men. I only buy warm LEDs and even then they fucking suck but are tolerable. I have no idea why anyone wastes money on bright white LEDs. If I want to feel like I'm in an office building I'll go to fucking work.
>mfs here hating on LED bulbs>but have no idea what kind of hell of glass shards the inventor of blue LED diode had to drag his balls through to make white color LED bulbs a realityI swear you guys are just hating on all this because you hate japs.
>>106969283We need to make LED that imitates the primordial light of a caveman's campfire.
There was once a type of incandescent bulb which never burned out - https://edisontechcenter.org/NernstLamps.html - the Nernst Lamp. You can make one yourself with a piece of Zirconium Oxide from a "ceramic knife" and a current-limiting device (incandescent lamp, magnetic flourescent ballast, electronic circuit etc...). You do have to preheat the Zirconium Oxide to make it conductive, that's the main drawnack. Since the light-emitting material is already an oxide, it can not "burn out".
>>106972077I just bought one. I read books to my kid before bedtime and would prefer not to lose my fucking eyesight before she moves out. have a good day sir.
>>106972117Poor kid, she isn't going to be able to sleep normally because your eyes are shit. Get glasses
>>106972048In regards to planned obsolescence, I wonder why more people don't take advantage and undercut competition. Seems like it would be an easy boon.
They use CFCs to make our planets atmosphere more hospitable for themselves. More like their home planet.
>>106972082While blue LEDs were hard to develop, you don't have to light your entire home in deep blue as a tribute. Also everyone saw that Veritasium video, you're not special.
>>106972077For use cases other than general lighting. I recently made myself a 5000K 98CRI lamp for painting.
>>106972152>everyone saw that Veritasium video, you're not special.meanie :(
>>106970891>that red spikeI hate these so much. They make everything look shit brown.
>>106972048>>106972138Rule of cheapness rules out buying something better.Consumer attitudes are also as such that even when they are willing to buy something more expensive, it's never about the quality.You can go to Walmart and buy some Phillips ultra efficient which will last almost forever but it's $7 a a bulb and it's only feature is they are dimmable when for $7 can get you wifi color changing RGB nonsense.Same shit with appliances
>>106969283I will never run an LED again as long as I live, absolute meme bullshit for the nigger cattle.
>>106969283I'm sure they'll comeback with a vengeance just like CRT monitors
>>106972109The main drawback is it needs a ballast to prevent thermal runaway. Which at the time the best they could do was an incandescent lightbulb. It's easy to make incandescent sources that never burn out if you don't care about efficiency.
>>106972324or lumen output
>>106972261That makes sense, on the consumer side.I'm wondering now how feasible it is and/or what the difference is in terms of like, production and sustainability in regards to demand.Surely demand will be lower, maybe even dramatically so, especially at first.But in theory the production costs and stock could be dramatically lower too.Niche filling I guess.For light bulbs specifically, the parts and assembly are pretty basic and prevalent.Seems like something an autist/hobbyist could potentially do.But I lack insight so maybe it's obviously infeasible.
>>106969283Heckin yeah. I love having little space heaters in my light sockets!! I'm almost a fucking boomer and I hate incandescent bulbs.
>>106972328same thing
>>106972261Kind of a retarded argument because Walmart is strict about maintaining profit per foot shelf space. If they stay in stock for a whole year a lot of people are buying them.Also they look like shit.
I've switched my house back to incandescent bulbs and it feels great. I even covered up the indicator leds on things like speakers and power plugs in the bedroom because the faint glow was annoying at night.Having lots of cool lamps and nice nightlights running incandescent makes the house feel so much cozier than LED brain rot trash. And because I'm not a fag, even my truck uses incandescent bulbs all around.
>>106971576Yes it is.
>>106969283Every time I walk into Merlin's lighting section I immediately get a migraine from how blindingly abrasive the LED lighting is, same with headlights on cars. Something about these things just doesn't feel right even if they are amazingly energy efficient. Same with those Christmas tree lights when they became LEDs. They pierce everyone's eyes. My family always complained.
>>106972488LED headlights are the absolute depth of normalfag convenience culture depravity. Not only are they a worse light source, they're heavier and less efficient.
led lights are so fucking shit that it's amazing to witness. the street lights are the worst. indoor use is headache inducing. electricity jews should not be telling me what the fuck i can and cant do for lighting.
>>106969466LEDs are smaller, brighter, and produce less heat. Cut yourself a length of copper wire and put into electrical socket if you miss it so badly.
>>106972542i couldn't give a fuck if it required its own nuclear generator fuelled by the tears of environmentalists. the light it emits is trash.
>>106969466Yeah? Those same people will then sit down and watch fox news and AI slop on youtube for 6 hours straight.
>>106972542If only good ones cost less than $28 a pop.>but i can't tell the differenceGood for you.
>>106972331Lightbulbs are about as democratized as they could possibly be as they aren't limited by those who know how to blow glass and create precision filaments.People make their own grow lights from modules and drivers. Kinda harder to DIY a bulb shape.It's not like quality couldn't be made.>>106972352They take up an extremely small part of the shelving compared to the slop.The point was that lasting shit is available but consumers will overwhelmingly pick something else.
>>106972082more like glass sharts amirite
>>106969999>microbes don't exist because you can't see themtier response>micronutrients don't matter in your food, eat the lab grown meat there's no differencetier response
>>106972488>even if they are amazingly energy efficienthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlzzPz3WH38I wanna go back to boomer offices ;_;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNY2K1eO-4Y
>>106969283ill stick to my LED thanks
>>106970443Good point, also>supply and inflationshould look at market share not market size
>>106969514It could be worse. Imagine those LEDs being RGB gayness as though the whole city lighting is a giant RGB PC.Now THAT would be fuct
>>106969787this is genuinely making me furious
>>106969787> planned obsolesceFrom one of the original members of the Phœbus Cartel, too. What did you expect?Current governments don’t see this as a problem… in fact they’re invested in it.
>>106972152Nobody’s watching veryretardium after that “electricity doesn’t flow in wires” video where he confuses a visual representatation of Poynting vectors with what actually happens (reality).
