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Is this true did the Japanese have fiber as early as in 2005?
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>>106976578
why not? My condo built in 2001 had fiber from the start with speeds going from 10 Mbps to 1000 Mbps. My current apartment built in 2017-2018 has both cat6 to all rooms and fiber ready in the electric box.
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>>106976578
Even Ukraine had some fiber network back in the 2000s (only the capital, but still).
The U.S. were, for quite some time, a backwater country in that regards.
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>>106976674
LOL, just checked, it's ~50% fiber for EU and only 21% for US.

I heard about the billions of dollars in subsidies the telcoes got in the US for laying fiber that they used to pay fat dividends instead. But that bad? BAKA
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>>106976578
AOL served dial up until 2025 in the US
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>>106976674
This is an established phenomenon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_handicap_of_a_head_start
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>>106976738
>that bad
the US is a huge place you retard and the cost of running fiber everywhere is huge
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>>106976780
500 BILLION dollars spent and nothing to show for it. Cope harder
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We need more adoption
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>>106976780
That's a BS excuse and you know it. ISPs are raping everyone sucking up cash and doing NOTHING
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I remember hearing that they even had a dedicated satellite network for some arcade or console game
and the "street culture" coming into early 10s waning everywhere else was only bolstered by having some arcade machines be able to connect to other machines at external arcades, so you'd always find some salaryman to spar with

the future seemed soo bright
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>>106976741
My local ISP offered two tiers of dial-up until 2022, alongside 1gbps/1gbps service. They've also been 100% fiber-to-the-home since 2015. So, dial-up over fiber.
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>>106976578
I'm sure the general idea of "Japan is a leader in broadband deployment" is true, but the US also had "early fiber" in 2005.
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2001/05/10/sbc-plans-fiber-optic-links/62147365007/
https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/verizons-fiber-race-is-on/

>>106977420
>fiber to the building
Does the definition they're using here require at least an Ethernet handoff, or can they count DSL and cable as "fiber" as long as the conversion happens inside the building?
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>>106976578
When I came to Japan in 2016 they already had fiber literally everywhere. Even little villages out in the country had fiber running to them because they put it up on poles.
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fuck my shitty rural life
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>>106976578
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Their entire diet is rice. Of course they have fiber.
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>>106976780
80% of the US population lives in cities, but only 50% have access to fiber and 17% have adopted it. It's not a density problem.
>>106980465
Starlink is an obvious choice for anyone rural.
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>>106976578
They had fucking HDTV broadcasts and HD Laserdiscs in the 1990s.
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>>106976578
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_communications_cable#Optical_telecommunications_cables
>The first transatlantic telephone cable to use optical fiber was TAT-8, which went into operation in 1988
And it still took Japan 17 years to adopt fiber after that. I wouldn't call it "early".
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