You don't really need "NAS"
I have 5 TVs, 16 security cameras and 23 desktops/laptops/phones in my home that constantly access media. How is a centralized nas not the perfect solution for my problem?
>>106982616>23 desktops/laptops/phones in my home that constantly access media??????!!?
what advantage does a prebuilt NAS give over just repurposing and old computer for the role?I thought these vendors all have a slightly antagonistic relationship with their users, with one even trying to make locked down harddrives
>>106982743usually decent amount of hot swappable bays and lower idle power consumption than repurposing an old power guzzler is my guess
>>106982743Convenience, size and power consumption. A prebuilt NAS being plug and play while not taking up too much power and space in the house is a big plus.
>>106982784they last longer tooit's not uncommon to see 15 year old Zyxels in the wild with their original drives still working perfectly like day one, my local library has a few
>>106982784The Elitedesk G4 I use pulls ~8-9W from the wall at idle. Even at Jewropean energy prices it'd be a long, long time before a dedicated NAS would pay for itself. Hard drive power consumption on top of that when spun up is the same between the two anyway. It's also nice to have the grunt of an i5-8500 available if needed, since I run a bunch of other stuff on there via Docker and VMs.
>>106982557"yes" i "do".i built my own
>>106982616It's a solution, but OP is correct - you don't need it. You don't need any of that stuff.
>>106982557You're right, you need a computer with easily serviceable and replaceable parts.
>>106982853Fair point, I think most people might think of repurposing an old computer as an old build they had which may have been a larger computer.
>>106982853calm down Rajeesh, it's about form too not just function. I got my nas hooked up to my mac mini all looking tidy and slick. no i wont use some poorfag shitbox that i have to take apart every time when swapping drives and listen to crackling fan noises and worry about motherboard sensors (google "elitedesk fan noise temp")i'll upgrade my nas around 2030, until then i often forget it's there. some people own a nice place and have the wallet for a nice easy on the eyes convenient solution, other people dumpster dive and try to convince others poverty is cool. that's life i guess, no need to get angry.
>>106982936Even then an old computer is pretty modern in terms of power savings.We are way past the point where PCs run at max speed all the time and take 150w doing nothing.A full ATX system made in the last decade will be 30w at most without a GPU
>>106982971>made in the last decadeyou're asking a lot of the average g anon
>>106982956>having that shit in the same roomPoorfag can't afford more rooms and lives in the pod
>>106982557>Bro just use Google storage broFaggot >>106982616>My problem You sound like you have a bigger problem
>>106982743Just werks. Pretty much the textbook definition of convenience tax. Plus power consumption, but unless you use like a 12900k or something like that in your custom built NAS it shouldn't be a huge difference.
>>106983104>Bro just use Google storage broThe only problem with a NAS is that it's not a backup solution. I'm still trying to figure that out. Right now I just buy a 20 TB HDD every once in a while to backup all my shit but that's going to start becoming a problem fast.
>>106983115Even a 12900k can idle at a handful of wattsLarge desktop idle inefficiency is purely down to PSU and motherboards which aren't optimized at all for idle efficiency
>>106982956Try googling "cool PC cases" or something. Prebuilt NAS does not have a monopoly on sleek metal/plastic boxes.
>>106982557I have more than 1 screen and a power bill. I like NAS.
>>106982743hotswap low powersizesoftwarejust werksquietcutecompared to
>>106982675It's a scam house
>>106982616>my problem> 5 TVs, 16 security cameras and 23 desktops/laptops/phonesbro is worried bout the wrong problem
>>106983325jeet house acting as an office cubicle, sar that area isnt zoned for business work. fbi is coming to visit
>>106982743Because most shitty old computers have like three SATA ports if you're lucky.
>>106982557>You don't really need "NAS"That's actually true, using old computer parts with unraid or a similar OS will make it do a fuckton more and you will actually learn how to manage systems and shit, plus, since it's not bound to the maker's OS, you get lifetime updates at no extra cost and you can upgrade it too.
>>106983568PCI SATA expansion cards are incredibly cheap
>>106983602>you get lifetime updates at no extra costother than a fuckton more in power bills
>>106982743I dont know why people bother building nas boxes. i have an always on machine with a 32TB RAID0 running off a $15 RAID card that has over 75,000 hours of uptime.I cant imagine retards spending over $300 for an overpriced computer case that can only hold 4 drives, and then waste half their storage on redundancy.
>>106983568If anything it's in the last few years SATA ports have started becoming more and more rare.And if you have them, they may share PCIE lanes with M.2 slots.
>>106982557You also don't need the internet, a computer or even electricity. What's your point?
>>106983568What bottom of the barrel $3 motherboards are you looking at? I don't think I've literally ever seen one with less than 4 and usually it's 6 or 8, plus you can buy pcie sata expanders or even better used hbas for peanuts to give you literally all the ports you would ever need
>>106983772What case is that.
>>106984443SilverStone FT02The best computer case ever to exist.
>>106983158Raid 1 mirror back up?
>>106983720>thin clientsNigger the cost about 5 buckeroos per year
>>106984682I'm trying to work out in my head how to do it I mean. I would need to setup ANOTHER server, dedicated to backup with raid 1 or potentially raid 10 for safety concerns.
>>106982956>self-hating turd worlder lashes out at "Rajeesh"I don't hear any part of my home server setup because it's in a spare room. An actual whole room that has no other use but to play host to my setup. In my house. I know, right? It's like I'm Elon Musk or something in relative terms. If I was living in a one-room tin shack in Bangalore then I guess I might be sensitive to noise, so I understand your plight.
>>106982675nta, but each person having at least 1 pc 1 laptop and 1 phone makes that not as wild as it sounds.i mean i have more than 1 phone and laptop already so i would take up a chunk of that number alone.
>>106982557You're right, I need some actual servers.
>>106984547Nice. I went with an R5. I could use more but 60TB is fine for mow
>>106984547Oh, does that support 8 3.5 inch hdds?
>>106982743In the case of Synology the software is incredibly good.It's still stupidly overpriced though.
>>106982557NAS coal
Why do people act as if you can't add hotswap to any old ass case or at the very least buy a hotswap case?
>>106985669>Oh, does that support 8 3.5 inch hdds?It can fit 10 3.5" HDDs or as much as 20 with pic related.
>>106983158Online backup is a good option if you don't have too much (critical) data.I use "Hyper Backup" with my Synology which encrypts the data locally before uploading it to a storage service of your choice (I use both Google Drive and Synology's own "C2" storage, but there are many options)That's just for personal documents and photos and such though, a few hundred GB in total.Movies and series I've torrented (several TB) I only backed up locally to some old disks.But I can live with losing those if, say, my house burned down.And I only make backups once a year or so since I'll probably still be able to re-torrent them anyways.
>>106983772>32TB RAID0Leroy Jenkins!
>>106982557Considering the fickle nature of online media in this day and age, maybe you do.
>>106985766This case might be in my future.>>106985772I don't necessarily like online backups or use them. I just am aware of the challenges one might face with doing it all yourself, possible hurdles, etc. That encryption of data before uploading is nice, means that those assholes don't have to know what content you're uploading. Though paying for backup with them is still a pain in the ass vs the "free" from your own servers.
>>106983158>>106985772Another option I forgot to mention is to get two NAS'es.I think many people who have upgraded they NAS once keep their old NAS for backups.Or if you have a friend or family member with a NAS you could become backup buddies.
>>106983325>>106983356Huh? I have a family. a spouse and four kids. Why is this such an alien concept on /g/...
>>106985822>paying for backup with them is still a pain in the ass vs the "free" from your own servers.True but online storage has become pretty cheap.My Google Drive I already needed for something else so it was essentially free for me.
>>106982887I need a server that stores video recordings and my family likes watching movies and TV shows. I get a huge insurance discount for having the cameras. Would you prefer me pay for a half dozen streaming services per month?
>>106985890One or two security cameras is normal.16 means you're a drug dealer.
>>106985970I'm sitting on two acres of land with a house, guest house, workshop, garage and tool shed and no perimeter fence. Two cameras won't even cover my driveway
>>106983306clean your nas
NAS is all fun and games until the hard drives start dying and that $120 replacement drive doesn’t look as friendly
