>This week, Figure has passed 5 months running on the BMW X3 body shop production line>We have been running 10 hours per day, every single day of production!>It is believed that Figure and BMW are the first in the world to do this with humanoid robotsRobots are now being used in factories. Are you ready for the future, /g/?
>>106983632that seems kind of cool
>>106983632im jealous as fuck
What's the point here?You could do this with just a big robot arm.
>>106983676ease of integration into existing workflowsbut also "wow" factora quadruped form is strictly superior to a bipedal one
>>106983676>>106983694 clarif:the usecase for being bipedal is to be able to peek over the tall grass of the savannahand theres not much grass on the assembly floor of a factory, kek
>>106983707Bipedal forms are taller, take up less space, have significantly higher ease of movement, and can turn on a dime.
>>106983676But is a robot arm AI-powered™? Didn't think so.
>>106983737for the low price of having to do your balancing on two stiltswhich makes everything more complicated, and overall less capablequadruped is the best form for an industrial setting unless extreme space constraintsfor storage you can stack quadrupeds like you would plastic chairs, but horizontally
>>106983737>>106983787also you can give a quadruped wheels to give it speedquadrupeds are the way forward methinks
>>106983787why would you have legs at all for a flat factory floor
>>106983811for the cases where you dont.or when dealing with stairsyou want your base chassis to be as versatile as practical
>>106983632The person who did this job before the robot made like 80k a year to do their monkey-tier labor, and continued to demand more through a worker's union, lmfao
>>106983632>10 hours per dayso more than humans on average. lmao
>>106983787it's training for other future robots. they'll use their data for other applicationseventually they'll specialize as fuck for each job, but atm they need to intersect them with human related jobs, to get info out of it, so they can use it in other areas.
>>106983676>>106983707> Human physical laborforce annual marketcap in the $10s of trillions USD> Not building the most interoperable humanoid possible to capture as much laborforce for existing human workflowsAre people actually this low iq or is this psyop? I genuinely can't tell.
>>106984333It simply is not the most optimal way to automate this task.We all know BMW is doing this mainly because they cannot fire so many of their employees due to labour protection laws, so they still have to make some concessions for a human workforce when it comes to the layout of their factories. In 50-ish years, humanoids would mostly be relegated to being assistants, and would barely be found on factory floors.
>>106984333>how to tell someone you know fuck all about the laws of physics without actually saying ithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass>>106984229that?nah, if someone would want to do things that way theyd use a simulation like nvidia pioneered a while agocant find the original thing, theres tons of advancements since thenthey train in simulation, with synthetic datawith this, though...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ-007HfGXEgathering training data was the first thought i had upon seeing the thingim not sure theyre already doing it, but i would
>>106983632Who will buy all the bullshit they're making when nobody has a job to afford anything?
>>106985429They'll give you money and make you buy their shit, just for the power trip.
>>106985631>Using money to buy their shitJust out of principle I would never.
>>106985646You won't be given a choice, you will be given government stipends and a list of mandatory options to purchase your shit from.
>>106984405you dont know shit retard, these things take time, this is the only way to do this
>>106984820Genuinely what point are you trying to make? That humanoid’s interopability is not the primary driver behind their development (it is) as compared to ABB arm-style/others?Center of balance can be achieved with various robotic forms. More low iq spam sliding.
>>106983676then you would need some belts anon. I still don't get why we don't have drone swarm assemblies.
>>106983632I must say I fully expected this figure stuff to be a huge nothingburger.Finally, some actual progress.robowaifus soon!
>>106985864Then they should just give me the product. Why would I spend on that dumb shit?
>>106983632Are they using LLMs/VLMs to control it, or is the model still custom made for each individual task?
>>106986393>Center of balance can be achieved with various robotic formsIt can be achieved with any form you pseud. The thing is you don't need a mobile robot in the first place, and even if you did, a weighed down skid steer with a robot arm is enough, exponentially cheaper and can work all the time and not pathetic 10h daily.
>>106986678We have those already you fucking moron. >abb.comThe point of humanoids is to replace HUMAN task performance. That’s the fucking target kek. Why do we have human factory workers at automated car plants? Because when something goes wrong, an arm needs maintenance, a piece gets stuck on the belt, etc; the interoperability of a human being is irreplaceable and more importantly, our infrastructure is designed for access by Bipeds. Also the majority of human physical labor is not factory work you fucking idiot. There are $10Ts USD worth of non-factory physical labor (construction work, janitorial, retail, delivery, service industry, etc) that can potentially be replaced by humanoids. Oh you run a major department store? Your “cashiers” no longer go home at 9pm, overnight they become your janitors, technicians/engineers, security, etc. Obviously the places where stationary/non-biped robots are optimal will continue to use them. The whole point is to unlock automation for the remainder of use cases. >”pseud”KEK
Eventually it'll be robots producing robots for robots, I'm not complaining but it seems like there's a point of redundancy in there
>>106984071>Shit I made up to be mad aboutWhy are you like this?
Very impressive, these things are advancing at a great rate.However:>10 hours a dayWhy isn't it running 24/7? Just keep that fucker going day and night.Besides they need to test it harder so we get to robowives faster.
>>106986900Much of tooling is machines producing parts for other machines, maybe in retrospect we'll see it was a new industrial lifeform dragging itself out of the habitat we've created
>>106983676The point is to grift the sort of people that don't comprehend that the only reason why robot arms don't do everything is that pleb labor is (and always will) be essentially worthless to a hundred billion dollar mcap entity.Value is in brains. Arms are cheap. There's millions of niggers that can do what pic rel shows and they reproduce exponentially with just rice and beans. I'm still buying this shit when it goes public but solely for the memes.
>>106988567>The point is to grift the sort of people that don't comprehend that the only reason why robot arms don't do everything is that pleb labor is (and always will) be essentially worthless to a hundred billion dollar mcap entity.>Value is in brains. Arms are cheap. There's millions of niggers that can do what pic rel shows and they reproduce exponentially with just rice and beans.Untrue, the global supply of labor is decreasing. At least according to rand peak labor was 2010
>>106983632wait I thought china was ahead on this. this is very unsettling
>>106983676retrofitting
>>106986554ye money are used if you add value to the system. without any value we don't need money, we need rations. as in limits on what we can consoom.
>>106988850they are, xiaomi has a fully automated car factory, but they are not using meme humanoidsit is also making them lose a ton of money desu
>>106986854>We have those already you fucking moron.No shit. That's why humanoids are a joke.>our infrastructure is designed for access by Bipeds.No way you're less than a 5. A robot like picrel can do anything physical a human can do. Maybe it'd need a holder at most, modular platform with quadruped simple stocky legs if it absolutely needs to go upstairs. Any tools it'd use would need to be customized, but that still would be miles cheaper than humanoids.>Also the majority of human physical labor is not factory work you fucking idiotNo shit, that's why putting a humanoid robot in the factory is such a fucking joke.>construction workBoston Dynamics' Spot>janitorialHuge roombas>retailSelf-checkout, Amazon fulfillment center robots>deliveryAutomatic cars, drones>service industryAnything else that's not a humanoid.>The whole point is to unlock automation for the remainder of use cases.Again, no shit. But it was always software that was lagging behind and still is, and a bunch of good wishes held together by a shoesrring and prayer that is modern AI perfectly fits this form factor - impractical, not working piece of shit made to appeal to boomers and millenials who watched too much sci-fi and reinventing the wheel of past 40 years.