>he doesn't use an airplane to cool down his laptophttps://spectrum.ieee.org/ai-data-centers
>>106984048they did something similar with U-boat diesels after the end of WW2 for power generation, it's not all that crazyi do wonder what kind of engines they'll be using for these though. maybe the MD-11s still in service will have their engines being used for stuff like this, especially ones equipped with the more powerful ones for hot & high airports
>bro we need all this money and power for............NVIDIA GRAPHICS CARDSlol
>>106984103GIBB MOAR $TRILLIONS GOYIM!111
AI investment is crazy. Boomers aren't getting any of that IRA back
>>106984048The fans in my laptop spin so loudly that it certainly sounds like an airplane is in there.
>When greed drives innovation Why are humans like this?
>>106984444Checked.>humansAnon, I...
>>106984444this is all to get laid. more money resources and ego boosting equals more sex with hot bitches. it just spiraled into the fourth industrial revolution
>>106984121i think we're getting into "too big to fail" territory. a lot of the recent economic growth is tied to AI, and heavily invested in it.
>>106984444If you can any why everyone wants a better life, then you can answer why companies want more. You want that new shoe? Good food? Housing? Electricity? Water? Clothes? TV? Computers? Washing machine? Dish washer? vacuum? car? internet? etc
>>106984444Because charity drives stagnation
>>106984739>i think we're getting into "too big to fail" territory.A lot of money is tied into it but the real economy and the real infrastructures don't depend on "AI" at all.It won't even be profitable because it's WAYYYYYY overevluated. It has a lot interesting applications but it's nowhere near close actual artificial intelligence. This has been a lie since this fad started and this lie is the main reason why there is so much investment in it.
>It won't even be profitable*It won't ever be profitable
>>106984103>Nvidia graphics cards training on reddit and wikipedia will produce superintelligenceAny minute now
Ah yes, the airliner industry will LOVE the idea of competing for PGM elements, spares and fuel with a blubble industry.
I wonder if those pass emission standards
>>106984822>looks at all the AI you can use freelyyeah
>>106985013no they don'thttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/04/pfas-pollution-data-centers-aihttps://gizmodo.com/environmentalists-warn-ai-data-centers-forever-chemicals-this-issue-has-been-dangerously-understudied-2000668367
>>106985013AGI will solve all pollution issues world wide so actually it's okay for AI datacenters to skip such requirements. Just a few trillion dollars more and we'll get there.
>>106985049PFAS aren't a problem because fires are incredible rare in data centers, normal operation will not volatilize plastics of fluoridated foams (fire extinguishers, if they use those) or relase HVAC fluids (that aren't be released because they harm the Ozone layer). A normal airport will cause more PFAS pollution than those meme datacenters.>NOx is another matter
>>106985026And it's gotten them nowhere near AGI
>>106984739If by "too big to fail" you mean they'll get bailed out when the bubble inevitably pops, you are correct. If you mean it in the gullible, literal sense, you are going to lose everything, there is going to be a top, there is going to be a crash, and that is when you should buy - right before the bailout hits.
>>106985088How do you know PFAS aren't emitted because of chips and motherboards heating up? If it turns out to be the case, the amounts emitted would be huge because there are so many data centers everywhere,
>>106984739>a lot of the recent economic growth is tied to AI,All the relevant US growth has been tied to techbros for the last 10 years (40% of the total)
>>106985156I was trying to think of a witty putdown but the black hole idiocy of your post rendered it void
>>106985172Ok, lobbyist.
>>106985156Are you being an obnoxious faggot on purpose?
>>106985156No, they don't gas off (it's used for high vacuum systems for that reason), fluoridated polymers are popular because they're stable up to 200 - 300ºC (350 - 500ºF) and have excellent electrical-chemical properties."PFAS" is a popular term for some negligence related to the goverment/airports with ongoing lawsuits, if the concern really were pollution from data centers then the articles should be talking about Brominated Flame Retardants.
>>106984048>China>Build their data centres in the Himalaya, in caves under hills with natural air flows, or even underwater>Burgers>"airplane engines lol"
>>106985275They don't need to turn into gas. The thermal stress could mechanically damage the substrate and lead to the emission of nano/microparticles. They would splinter off from the motherboards and chips.
>>106984048>Nvidia actually made it real somehowI'm... proud. They actually listened to us.
>>106985277this is about power not cooling
>>106985348> They would splinter off from the motherboards and chips.You don't mount a $10k chip on a unstable substrate and then thermally cycle the f out that.If you can't provide a substantial example of that then Fuck Off
>>106985542an*
>>106984048yet again techbros click through wikipedia once and fancy themselves experts and implement what would have been a reasonable solution in the dumbest way possible. diesel turbine engines are already a thing but you don't use aircraft ones to generate power, you don't even use them for motive power on land. that is a "turbofan" and is specifically designed to move air through it to create thrust, not to create torque at the shaft. land-based turbines are entirely different and it would be much more appropriate to take one out of a junked ship or tank where the entire point is to create a fuckton of torque (which would be more appropriate for driving an alternator/generator)>>106985013Almost definitely not, and probably violate noise regulations too. My local coal plant can be heard for miles, imagine a data center that is literally making the same noise as a DC-10 taking off literally constantly.
>>106985004I sure hope no modern planes use that engine>After developing the TF39 for the C-5 Galaxy in the late 1960s, GE offered a higher thrust variant for civilian use, the CF6. It was also selected for versions of the Boeing 747, and then for the Airbus A300, A310 and A330, Boeing 767, Lockheed C-5M Galaxy, and McDonnell Douglas MD-11.:|
>jet engines have to be plugged in to be started and get to like 1000 degrees at the INLET before they start working properly, then stop working if the plane stops going faster than 200mph>yeah let's use them as generators on land
>>106985649Literally just needs a turbo.
>>106985623Why is she looking away from me all shy but still aiming at me? What a tsundere girl!
>>106985649> then stop working if the plane stops going faster than 200mphWhat if they put it on a really long metal beam so that it can go around in circles? They can even use this to drive another generator to make more power!
>>106984048this is what happens when you use AI for everything
>>106985671aircraft turbofans are basically troll physics as they are, don't do this or the simulacrum will collapseit's literally some retard hooked up a turbo to his supercharger and then a supercharger to that turbo but forgot to ever put an engine in, instead replacing it with a turbo installed at the front, backwards, and to make it work better sometimes you just ignite fuel behind it like a rocket>>106985687my bet is some techbro retard with daddy's money found a lot of junked aircraft engines, did five minutes of research, and decided to form a start-up. because of The Current Economy, VC vultures and the US government handed him a gorillion dollars for his marketing budget and the business will make two or three high profile sales and then become a glorified holding company.
>>106985277Lmao as chinks continue to build more coal power plants for all their power needs including the large data centers and no they aren’t building in mountains and or caves.
>>106985542Electronic waste is a known source of heavy metal pollution. You think that electronic devices magically start emitting heavy metal particles once they land in a open sky decharge in Africa or Bengladesh at ambient temperature, but not when they are heating up to 70-80+ degrees while they are powered up and running?
How did they achieve this kind of speed and processing and speed of processing without AI?
>>106984048imagine the noise
>>106985774https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku4fxg0Sdxc
>>106985748>You think that electronic devices magically start emitting heavy metal particles once they land in a open sky decharge in Africa or Bengladesh at ambient temperatureYeah when they get wet and start corroding.Also they burn that shit in these 3rd world "recycling" centers.Part of the reason RoHS exists is because retards won't recycle it properly
>>106984848Honestly I hope it pops because it's making computer prices go up again. They are using massive amount of storage and memory now so prices in those are spiking hard.
>>106984813i wonder if some people ever have enough. honestly for me my life is great and the only "more" i need is sustainment (i would like to have dinner tonight) but in terms of capital the only thing im missing is a car. and not even a good car. i want a kei trucc
>>106985748>Electronic waste is a known source of heavy metal pollution. Modern boards don't use lead/cadium/arsenic or similar, and nobody considers tin or copper as a problematic metal (copper far more toxic for aquatic life, one of the reasons to use it in fish farming). But yeah, recycling under bad conditions or simply dumping the old machines and leave them exposed to weather to leach is bad. Not a problem for data centers tho, the pollution per user is insignificant and the end-of-life is controlled by law, unlike the problematic consumer electronics.If you have that complain in particular then starting with consoles, PC and smartphones would be order of magnitude more effective.
>>106985748>, but not when they are heating up to 70-80+ degrees while they are powered up and running?No.Burning plastic at 800 ºC is incomparable to running a PCB at 100 ºC, chemistry 101 (Arrhenius).
>>106985815Those who have retiredThose who have resignedThose who live out in the outskirts of societyThose who are spiritual/monksEven they are still desiring for basic and better things, but they are doing so at a fraction of the rate than those in the city where materialism is the "answer" provided to cure fear of the void in their heart (mind). Emptiness of the spiritual void in the modern world. Lack of deeply seated foundational truth (god/spiritual/etc).But wise men know even those foundational pillars that hold their world up, be it spiritual or eternal in nature of falsehoods, but its enough to last through most of the life for most people that do not have the mettle to keep digging.
>>106984048I thought gas turbines were already used for both stand by emergency generators and rapid response online generators to quickly regulate energy surges and grid load balancing?Using a turbofan based one seems a bit odd though, even if it seems extensively modified for turboshaft use.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_LM6000
>>106985718>it's literally some retard hooked up a turbo to his supercharger and then a supercharger to that turbo but forgot to ever put an engine in, instead replacing it with a turbo installed at the front, backwards, and to make it work better sometimes you just ignite fuel behind it like a rocketI've thought about doing this, "oops all turbos."
>>106985860>in the city where materialism is the "answer" having lived in The City for all my life (except when deployed) i dont think this is really true. other than people being generally poor and genuinely missing something they "need" (to be rid of debt, better transportation in light of their job requirements, tools for whatever job they have, etc) most people I meet in a day seem to be at least not greedy. not everyone is satisfied with their lot, but few people are gunning to be gajillionaires. that said i forgot another frivolous Wont of mine, i want a gun(real). im not beefing i just think theyre neat>>106985967yeah turbines are but not turbofans. >>106985973play stormworks. supercharging is basically mandatory in that game now and half of builds are "sophisticated" boost systems when people don't outright cheat (no genuine turbos unfortunately because mechanical pumps are coded incorrectly)
>>106985967That's the problem, they're using the same parts produced by an industry that isn't compatible with bubbles, even less than semiconductor foundries or ASML.Small gas turbines are nearly identical except for a new low pressure compressor and maybe a different combustion chamber. The rest are just differences in the auxiliary components (pumps) and casing. All the parts that wear fast (bearings, turbine blades made with superalloys) are similar or identical.
>>106984103Crashing the power infrastructure of a super-power to.... generate slop.
>>106986169you dont understand bro the artists who wanted to charge me for commissions are getting btfo so hard!!!
>>106986169>crashing power infrastructureThats why good companies are building their own power infrastructure.Power plants to generate electricityBattery banks to smooth out with precice load balancing
>>106984861I'd give it just about 2 weeks, anon.
I definitely need an entire power plant to do some xlookups in excel
>It's the year 2029, the newest Nvidia AI-TPU comes with a heatsink and Gas turbine APU integrated, it's a plug, fill and play neural processor.
