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Why did it fail the way it did? It had great UX, was fast even in low-end devices, and was made when Windows had 90% market share in desktops. I still struggle to understand how Microshaft dropped the ball so had. The fact that it never had proper Windows integration or that they couldn't strongarm Google into releasing Youtube for WP is downright mindboggling.
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>>106986382
bro really asking why did this fail lol lmao even
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>>106986382
I programmed for it professionally.
It didn't have great UX it had terrible UX. Exactly what Microsoft used worked and everything else was broken beyond repair. The live-tiles API was unfathomable garbage. Every version from 7 to 8 to 10 they nuked their backward compatibility. The Store was so fucking bad. You couldn't make money from ads or sales and the most important thing: Their Metro Design language was stupid as fuck and there was no way to make it fit your corporate aesthetics. So everyone made terrible custom uis instead of the native design language.

These threads are stupid nostalgia bate i've worked with every version of windows phone and basically had every windows phone device. They were all shit. The OS was shit. It was "fast" because it didn't support anything and it had good battery life because it never let anything run in the backround to update.

Whoever wrote the live-tile api deserves the rope. Thank you google for starving it from being able to use youtube maps or anything google.
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>>106986382
I had one. It failed because it had its own app store and the apps were limited.
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>>106986382
It was missmanaged, end of story.
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>>106986382
It had no apps. That was the reason. Microsoft was very slow to court developers, and even major apps were skipping the platform. It just didn't make sense to have a whole separate build for ~5% marketshare. The hardware was nice, but not nice enough to make people trade away their iPhone. Microsoft got dollar signs and thought they could just jump in headfirst and rake in all the profits without actually competing on value for devs or users, and the rest is history.
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>>106986382
Windows CE had a big library of applications, but were not really the most touch friendly, so there was a hard break with Windows Mobile 7 which was WinNT based as well (CE was it's own thing with /kinda/ win32 support) of which just as it started to gain momentum Microsoft had the bright idea to do a hard break again with Windows Mobile 8, so if you bought a 7 phone or were a dev for a 7 app you were just simply fucked. This is really the thing that killed all momentum Window Mobile had, and it never regained it over the remainder of it's lifetime.
Imagine if Android during the 2.x era decided to hard break away and do a full app reset from all prior developed apps, it would have been disastrous for Google and a huge boon to Apple. This is basically what MS did.
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>>106986382
As someone who actually remembered people using this instead of being zoomer/genalpha tard high on YouTube nostalgia poop, the primary reason I could remember normies rejecting it was
>no apps
Like I remember some of my frens making a group chat or something in an old chat app whose name I forgot and the one guy with Windows Phone was never able to get in. Or not be able to play clash of clans and join our class clan.
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>>106986414
Soon™
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>>106986428
Maybe that's all true, but the UX (User Xperience) was still good. Just because development for it was hard doesn't make it bad.
Not my problem as a user.
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It came out in that specific period when Windows didn't know whether it wanted to be mobile or desktop and acted like a magpie stealing shiny stuff, taking things from here and there without any real goal.
It was a total mess compared to the competition.
And their design language was ass compared to anyone else. Their system didn't look even remotely interesting.
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>>106986382
Nokia's own new system MeeGo was almost ready, carriers put on money and effort getting ready for it. Suddenly Nokia says "nevermind that, we're moving to Windows." Carriers were fucking pissed, realized that Nokia was flakey, and put their weight behind Android instead.
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>>106986414
Fucking zoomer
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>>106986382
It failed because it didnt have normie shit like snapchat. I had one while I was in High School lol, specifically the Lumia 520 Cyan.
I used to joke around by throwing it at the ground to remove the battery, as it was faster than turning it off.
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>>106986577
They assumed developers would fight to get the privilege of developing for WP. They adopted many of Apple's policies, including the $99 annual fee to be allowed to create software for it. By the time they realized how retarded they were being, everyone had calcified around Android and iOS. Even after reversing the money flow and offering cash for pretty much any app published to the store, they couldn't get much more than Koran apps and shovelware.
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>>106986414
>AI assistant 10 years before it was cool
>native browser
>native messaging and calling app
And?
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>>106987924
>Suddenly Nokia says "nevermind that, we're moving to Windows."
Except that it was the CEO planted by microsoft that did that while Android already had a good headstart
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>>106986382
They changed SDKs 3 times in 4 years, with each new one being incompatible with the last. This is the real reason it never had any apps. The Google shit and retarded pricing were just the cherry on top. That being said, it's a shame it went away. WP had some interesting ideas and a market with 3 players would probably be better than today's hellscape.

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>>106988124
Nokia was already up for sale by that time, it's a shame becauce MeeGo really had the potential to be the 'default' mobile OS.
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>>106986382
nobody knew how to write software for it, the app shop was filled with Pajeetsoft



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