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2-pin Edition

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Books & Papers etc.):
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>106973036
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Airpods won.
Chifi lost.
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>>106990311
pfff airpods pro 3 are fucking dogshit they didn't win anything
I give apple 3 more years then china will start shitting out cheap TWS with all the same (or better) systems
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eqtards won another thread
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the only thing you won is digital clipping or less bits of dynamic range.
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>>106990474
all you won is an ass clapping
LOL
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we're laughing at you. you are suffering from reduced dynamic range, poor resolution, fucked up frequency response, high distortion, and high noise floor. and are so deaf you don't recognize any of it as a problem
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>>106990276
I don't get it. Many IEMs have a peak around 8k? Well the Explorer doesn't, even inside an ear. That's why you can blast your music loud with them. No EQ needed.
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8k is completely smooth. And this is inside the ear using a 711 Coupler.
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>>106990463
not the eq users that use r2r, 1-bit dacs. that shit isn't any more useful than an apple dongle besides power, so, L, entirely.
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>>106990486
>high noise floor
oh look another argument you lost 8 arguments ago
>implying pr2 will ever have noise floor
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>>106990499
>711 Coupler.
>8k
well in the region of unreliability for 711 couplers, so, stop relying on it.
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>>106990488
>shows how hugely FR at the eardrum varies between ears
>i don't get it
there fuck is there to get? no matter how "smooth" treble looks on a graph or even feels in your ear it doesn't mean it will be the same for any other ear.
>Many IEMs have a peak around 8k
no
>Explorer doesn't, even inside an ear
wrong and irrelevant
>That's why you can blast your music loud with them
I can do it in general on all my POS
>No EQ needed
EQ is always needed
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>>106990503
ok i respect you're opinion. still listening to vinyl rips on my ru7 and pr2. sounds good man
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nope, you lost. lol
hope you can still return that shit unless you bought it used on ebay too ahahaha
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>>106990514
it's PR2 and you're giving it juice, of course it sounds good
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>>106990536
did I justify $175 to your poor ass yet
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>>106990513
All graphs you see on squig are measured in-ear (on a fake ear). So thats why you will see most iems having a peak in the 7-9k region. Theyre not tuned to be that way, but they sound like it when theyre inserted in the ear. But the Explorer doesn't, because they worked to reduce that peak.

Or am I wrong?
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>>106990561
you can read the eq guide or watch various beginner videos which quickly explain what is happening, rather than forcing an anon to re-iterate and type out what is already well-disseminated common knowledge.
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if you have curiosity and a desire to learn, then do so. you don't need to ask the questions here, for 1 of the 4 anons who know and give a shit to have to manually type out the answer for the nth time. the answers exist, a good chunk of it compiled in the op guides. or catering to an even more casual audience, explained by decent audiophile youtube channels like The Headphone Show or Super Review.
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>>106990561
>All graphs you see on squig are measured in-ear (on a fake ear).
that's false
>So thats why you will see most iems having a peak in the 7-9k region
that's false
>Theyre not tuned to be that way, but they sound like it when theyre inserted in the ear.
that's false
>But the Explorer doesn't, because they worked to reduce that peak.
that's false
>Or am I wrong?
yes
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>>106990554
for power alone, sure. other than that, it really is an overpriced apple dongle (when EQ is used).
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>>106990645
why wouldn't I use EQ? you're just coping over being broke
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>>106990645
actually, I take it back..what was I thinking? $175 is way too much for a dongle dac
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>>106990670
b r o k e. anyway, enjoying my zero noise floor
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>>106990667
being broke has nothing to do with it. see >>106990670
don't project. I'm not the one who's coping. I know how to gain stage and choose and pay for gear with premiums I can't even use.
tell me more about cope
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>>106990678
and I don't choose*
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>>106990678
what does this story have to do with affording a ru7 for zero noose floor
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>>106990610
Ok so it the measuring rig doesn't cause the 7-9k peak, then that means almost all iems have a peak there. You can't have it both ways. Either the iems have a peak or the peak is caused by the resonance in the ear.
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>>106990673
now you're coping :) just take the L and keep using eq on your non-functioning r2r meme dongle
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>>106990708
>now it doesnt work
nigga im listening to it rn. I bought a zero noise floor dongle cuz I need it for my vinyl rips
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Give me an IEM with good treble, but no earrape and either a fully resin shell or a metal shell. I don't want a resin + metal nozzle combo. Yes, I am autistic.
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>nearly 9uv of noise floor
kek
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>>106990805
treble needs to be eq'd anyways,
celest wyvern not the remaster version (that has metal nozzle). no ear rape, because it's dark and rolls off.
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>>106990805
Artti T10 Pro
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>>106990704
>Ok so it the measuring rig doesn't cause the 7-9k peak
no
>then that means almost all iems have a peak there.
no
>You can't have it both ways. Either the iems have a peak or the peak is caused by the resonance in the ear.
It's easy to have it "both ways" when you are wrong and don't know what you are talking about.
saying that "rig causes the resonance" is wrong. Resonance happens because of simple physics and wave behavior.
It's around 8k on most graphs because it's where most reviewers decided to align it. Its behavior is not consistent and depends on IEM and a coupler itself.. Some can't even be aligned at 8k. You can find explorer graphs with bumps around 8k. But none of it is really representative of its behavior inside an actual ear. Actual ear will have different unique acoustic impedance which will change the base FR of IEM. Then anatomical differences and insertion depth will change it even further in unpredictable ways. As provided image demonstrates. IEM not having peaks on graphs does not guarantee that in real ear it will behave the same way (it will not).
Also I'm pretty sure most people with clone 711 couplers don't actually use fake ears. But it's not really relevant.
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just so you know, actual best in class gear can have noise floor <1.5uv. your dongle is 6x worse. lol
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>>106990805
>IEM
>no earrape
literally does not exist
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>>106990852
Ok, but on the picture you attached it looks like all ears have a 7-9k peak (including the two iems). I'm saying, the Aful Explorer does not have such a peak.
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>>106990884
>literally does not exist
Aful Explorer exists
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>>106991004
>>106991011
if you are not eqing your $100 pos, you're deaf. but we already knew that
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>>106991022
No need to EQ because there are no peaks to be removed. It's all smooth already. Aful already EQ the peaks away using dampening material.
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>>106991025
still needs eq. also hardware eq is inferior
eqtards win this
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>>106991004
omg how dense can you be?
>but on the picture you attached it looks like all ears have a 7-9k peak (including the two iems)
first of all it doesn't matter
2nd of all you still do not understand what you are looking at.
It's 1 IEM (I forgot which one some shitty JBL TWS or whatever) measured on 2 rigs (711 and 5128) and several ears. Where peaks are doesn't matter. What matter is that difference is like 10 dB at any point of the graph. Meaning there's literally no saying how pos will sound for you. like at all
> I'm saying, the Aful Explorer does not have such a peak
you literally can not know that.
also explorer is trashy warm dark pos which most people won't like. stop coping
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>>106991025
>Aful already EQ the peaks away using dampening material.
they can't EQ shit because they don't know where your peaks are dumbass...
also here's you aful 8k peaks
checkmate
now what
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>>106991093
>he can't EQ by ear
feels good to not be a deaf motherfucker with $100 pos
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>>106991025
They added a dip where they assumed a peak is going to be so it evens out flat. But if the peak is not there due to your ear canal length/insertion depth it will appear back in full strength.
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>>106991125
cringe
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>>106990311
Pre-obsoleted by fox TWS.
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Stock sound sucks, but man, -5db of bass and they actually sound good
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Just returned my Airpods 3 pro because the ANC had a horrible hiss.
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>>106992250
I order the OnePlus Buds 4 after, crazy that Apple QC is so bad.
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>>106989470
That's tame as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjKyzwqIT7s
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Years go by, FH3 still the best.
>built like a tank, comfortable, thin nozzle
>beryllium DD for bass - very textured and technical, hits with authority and doesn't bleed in the mids
>Knowles ED BA for mids - smooth, natural, with pinpoint instrument separation
>Knowles RAD BA for highs - airy, breathing, surgically precise with tons of detail
>huge, spacious soundstage that lets the exceptional imaging really shine
>non-fatiguing, very musical while still being very technical
I don't get it, why FiiO didn't make it a kilobuck, because it's worth it. For its price it's an absolute steal. MRS was right with the 5-star rating on this one.
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>>106992414
Mental illness.
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what are some of the best comfy IEM with a semi neutral yet warmish sound under 100bucks?
I want something i can just wear for 8hrs at a time or more without discomfort so not anything with fuckhueg nozzles
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>>106992623
EDC Pro
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>>106991498
deaf poorfag cope is more cringe desu
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>>106990274
I want to try IEMs as my Sennheiser HD 280 has too much pressure so I want some variety to not fuck up my jaw muscles.
I’d prefer a more flat sound as I listen to tons of podcasts and audiobooks, and maybe something nice for working out, but I don’t really care much about that, my priority is for they to be as comfortable as possible specially for long sessions and what I assume are average sized adult male ears.
I can go up to 200 bucks, but any cheap options for comfy IEMs would be appreciated, even if the sound quality is not great.
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>>106992414
the driver quality alone is amazing regardless of the price
tuning, not so much, though it's not outright shit
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>>106992773
About the same, yeah
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>>106992964
Based. Too bad they did not keep the original aesthetics and added a magnifying lens
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>>106992978
It is the original aesthetic, all of the successors are a downgrade, really
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>>106992990
Forgot a pic
https://by.seiko-design.com/en/stories-en/alpinist-en/
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>>106993022
Lens on watches are terrible design mistake
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>>106992773
do you listen to Tool on this tool?
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>>106993308
I think it's been 10 years since I last listened to Tool
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Epz NEW G10, the upgrade to the G10 featuring a 10mm LCP+PU dual magnetic DD tuned with help from Valorant DRG ( Epz sponsored team ).
Came with the option of 3.5 cable or Usb C which enable PEQ support through the walkplay app, the EPZ NEW G10 is available for 219 cny/30$ for Type C or 199 cny/28$ for 3.5mm
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>>106992964
based
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>>106993666
>LCP+PU
Turdear Pure already has LCP+silicone, time to move on EPZ
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Of course the dented head can't read.
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>>106992867
Truthear hexa
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>>106992728
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>>106990274
First time buyer here. Is there any noticeable different in sound between the budget options listed in the paste? Was considering the EPZ Q1 Pro or Tanchjim Bunny DSP. Anyone have a recommendation? Also, is the Apple USB-C dongle DAC good? My dad has one, so I'd just use his instead of buying another one. Thanks.
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>>106993931
get a chu2 for sub $20 after coupons and leave this general forever, save yourself
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>>106992728
unironically this
just be aware of abysmal QC, but if you get a fully working set, you're in for a treat
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>abysmal QC
>200 EDCs Pro on squiglink with good matching
for something free, it's amazing
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>>106993935
>chu2 for sub $20 after coupons
Noted.
>leave this general forever, save yourself
Will do.
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>>106994117
QC does not equal quality in general
it means you can get working set or a dud, which considering very low price, makes getting multiple sets a viable option, just in case
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>>106992773
Yes.
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>>106994161
don't get Chu 2. that shit will oxidize and ooze green shit all over the nozzles. skip it entirely. what's your budget???
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>>106992414
Agreed fellow FH3 enjoyer. Agreed.
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>>106994216
im trans btw if that matters
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How's the Tanchjim FOLA supposed to be different from the Origin? All I can gather is:
>Interchangeable plug terminations
>Weird PU something-something against the DD
>Shorter nozzles
It's weird that they'd add stuff to the package while making it like 20% cheaper.
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>>106994251
>Fola has DSP modular cable
>Origin just 1 cable
it's just better, but you gotta pay the flagship tax for the bragging rights
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>>106994306
Yeah, but better how (beyond the cable)? Some reviews seem to be dropping in a day or two, but comparing to the Nora instead of the Origin, which I find kind of weird.
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>>106992414
obsoleted by Aful Explorer with its Magic BAs, same as in MagicOne
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Bunny DSPs arrived
They sound pretty nice, thanks for the rec
I'm not sure how I feel about the cable though
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>>106994216
My budget is probably around $100, but if I can get something good enough for $20-$40, I'd prefer that. I doubt I could really tell the difference between them anyway.
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>>106992939
1 measurement.
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>>106994341
idk reviewers suck. But it seems Fola is a Nora beefed up in construction and accessories. Since it has less air, reviewers might find less "techy" or something.
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ching chong bing bong
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sure, why not
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>>106994911
CCP is watching you now
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>>106994919
hope they like my [spoiler]f95 goon virtual machine[/spoiler]
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>>106994911
nvm I can't passthrough the USB to the VM for some reason, program won't work. guess I'll install it in an old offline phone or something
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>>106994911
usecase for proprietary chinese hardware/software?
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>>106994458
I suggest you buy both the pos you mentioned. two different flavors is a nice first start. go for it
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>>106995044
use case for more than 1 dd? what makes you think the number of drivers is a metric?
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Thoughts on the retro nano?
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>>106995180
use case for ears?
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>>106994488
Thanks for the graph and perspective. It seems kind of weird to slot a mid-tier option between the NORA and Origin when all three use the same DMT5 afaik. The upper treble air seems pretty noticeable by comparison. I'd guess Origin is smoother overall based on the graph. Cool stuff anyway.
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>>106995502
>smoother overall based on the graph.
basing treble impressions off 711 graphs isn't the way to go.
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$5 shitbuds > kilopos > $100 pos

mfw you can just eq by ear and btfo all the buyer's remorse and chartniggas
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>>106995502
I think they are phasing out the origin, the lineup will be $100 nora $200 fola $500 origin LM. Or maybe they have a $300 origin refresh in the works.
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>>106994442
>I'm not sure how I feel about the cable though
well it is $20 pos... can't expect cable too good for that price... (tho its cable is fine)
>>106993931
Just buy bunny dsp... chu 2 is not bad but it's a gamble with moondrop's QC.
Q1 pro is comfy but you'd most likely need to EQ it cause base tuning is both too thin and too bright
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>>106995055
Thanks, I might just do that. Now just to wait for a sale.
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>>106995730
yeah as it goes in chifi. kara pro refresh, these redundant 1dds. as recently as origin came out it's already going to be old versus new lineup. at least they should repackage origin with new cables
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>paid too much for quality
after $5 shitbud territory it's over
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>>106995529
They are under the same conditions, so it won't be like night and day on the 5128, which btw is telling the same thing, less overall energy.
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>>106996293
Thank you for the recommendation. Will definitely get the Bunny. I wouldn't mind fiddling with the EQ of the Q1's; I'm considering both. Are the cables that important?
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>>106996308
thats pretty much what fola is
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>>106996368
>Are the cables that important
not for sound quality. better cables will have less microphonics, won't easily tangle or get stiff after a while and things like that. You can get pretty decent cable for like $10-15. But overall it's like whatever. I never really had problems with cables from cheap pos
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>>106990274
I got an oppo enco 3. I don't want to switch it out for never or anything like that. But how should i search for similar styled earphones? I don't like plastic thingy OP pic has, after 2-3 hours or sooner depending on weather my ears starts to hurt.
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2025 $5 shitbud shopping guide
$3 EDC Pro 1DD
$4 Celest Rue 1DD
$4 CVJ Luki 1DD+1vibrator
$7 Castor 2DD
$7 Krila 1DD+1BA
$7 Polaris 1DD
$8 Sgor Venus 1DD
$10 PR2 1planar
$10 QKZ x HBB 1DD
$12 Rosefinch 1DD
$12 GATe 1DD
$13 Chu II 1DD
$20 Lafitear LF3 Pro 1DD+1EST+1BA
$20 TRN ST7 2DD+5BA
$30 VX Pro+ 1DD+8BA
$23 TRN Lucky Bag (5 IEMs)
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>>106996680
current recommendation for $0?
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/iemg/ Physiognomy Check

Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your weekly sanity dose:

>Airpods/Cheapshit TWS/Stock buds
Too common to really make a good prediction, ranges from the average beta normalfag to alpha chads with chiseled jawlines.
>KZ, cheap Moondrop, years old FOTM pos, Cringicle collabs, Crinear
Balding and likely a redditor, moderately ugly, recessed chin. Unibrow, acne. Probably feminist and a simp for onlyfans whores. Least threatening "male". Often Indian.
>Truthear, Tanchjim, Softears, other less popular chinkshit and etymotic + smaller influencer collabs
Seriously ugly freaks, might have one standout feature like bug eyes or asymmetrical nose, negative canthal tilt is a given. High pitched or feminine voice, repulsive to almost all women.
>Customs/Expensive Western brands
Frail faggot hipster, somehow has rapey vibes yet is overpowered by the average woman. Male feminist. Think DMS archetype.
>Moondrop/Tanchjim/EPZ/CVJ with art on the side
These are the ugliest incels imaginable, the truest of trucels. Strange vocal tics, unnatural gait, and unbelievably ugly. They look deformed and monstrous to any normal person and have fucked up fetishes normies couldn't even imagine. Either freakishly thin or morbidly obese.
>BlueKAKA, Artti R6, SGOR, extremely cheap shitty offbrand chink pos
Small and short, built like goblins with a face to match. Very often fat, brown and the definition of untermensch. Horrific stench emanates up to 5 meters.
>Expensive SEAnigger pos
Fat ricecels with tiny beady eyes and poor vision. They often look inbred and their accents make women flee. One can assume they eat a lot and Asian eating habits are disgusting already, but their pig like countenance amplifies the effect.
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>>106996715
unoriginal. not your template to piss on.
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>>106996859
why u mad doe?
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>>106996715
I'm all of these btw
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>>106996878
oh I'm calm. you're showing your immaturity level.
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>>106996999
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>plug new IEMs into my tanchjim space
>hear popping noises
is it dead? i tried other iems with it and it still makes the noise but when i plug them into my pc it stops
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>>106996549
>I don't like plastic thingy OP pic has, after 2-3 hours or sooner depending on weather my ears starts to hurt.
what choice do you have lol? metal shell that is much heavier and will hurt your ears even faster?
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I'd probably fail blind A/B testing all of my IEMs against each other with like 12% accuracy and that's only because some of them are large BAs that start to hurt after a bit
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Needed a pair for the gyms I would not cry if damaged, what am I in for? First chinkbuds ever
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>>106997392
>gym
>wired with no IPX
sweat and moisture are a silent killer, so don't find it weird if one side suddenly starts acting up. Yo should've bought a shitbud tws like the space travel 2, QoL of lifting without wired is much better.
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>>106997392
meh not among my top picks for good fit but maybe it works fine for you
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>>106997449
Don't want your wireless exploding shit around by brain, Goldberg
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>>106996293
>tho its cable is fine
Yeah, been using it for a few hours now and I don't really mind it anymore
I should've gone with the 3.5mm version though, finna boutta cop a BT DAC so I gotta get another cable anyways
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>>106997392
love the seiko alpinist, such a great watch. cocktail time looks nice too
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>>106997508
oh you're arab? yeah, avoid it
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Oh Lord they sound fucking terrible compared to my Ety's, why did I get memed into buying chinkbuds?
If only etymotics made perfect buds for the gym or rooning. Fucking Christ do you virgins really buy chinkshit and try to tune it until it sounds good for one kind of music? Fucking lame desu, never fucking again. These disgusting bass are hurting my brain.
>>106997556
Thanks bro, I love the alpinist so much!
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>>106997508
>Don't want your wireless exploding shit around by brain
that's literally not s thing...
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What IEMs sound the closest to Sennheiser HD650s?
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>>106997631
They buy budget shit with still-noticeable harmonic distortion and shitty tunings, then EQ them to match more closely the lines of shit they wish they had the money to buy.
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>>106997887
turdear pure
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>>106997887
>>106997887
none, iems don't adapt to your HRTF like headpos, so it's all fluke, and most will have much deeper bass than the 650, but people usually say truthear pure is similar-ish
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>>106997631
Class 3 listener moment.
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>>106997631
lmao what a pathetic melty
>These disgusting bass are hurting my brain.
since when is bass bad
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>>106997925
>budget shit with still-noticeable harmonic distortion
pff such as?
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>>106997925
The most retarded post of the thread award.
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>>106996691
I called them $0 back when ali gave out the $10 vouchers, I stopped calling them that. but you can get $0.50 vouchers daily for 20 days
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>>106998022
>the more money you pay, the more distortion you get
naruhodo
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>>106995013
If it's for EQ some squigs can connect to the dongle
https://graph.hangout.audio/iem/711
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why is there no modern clip plus replacement? Mine died and I've been going crazy trying to find a replacement. Even new old stock models on ebay are dummy expensive. I just want a $20 player with an sd card slot to use for walks :(
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>>106990274
remember, it's not true lossless if you're not using Exclusive Mode.
if you don't even know what that is or your player doesn't even have that option, ngmi
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>>106998060
Shit that doesn't matter vs PEQ. Decisions decisions...
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>spends 300 bucks on a high-level neutral iem
>your lossless music sir
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>>106998060
I've yet to see ONE faggot who can prove that he can hear the difference between lossless and 320... heck none can even prove they can hear the difference between lossless and fucking spotify.
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>>106998074
Rookie numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ANEQu5Lto
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>>106998060
Bit-perfect is literally placebo thoughbeit
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>>106998102
i mean the proof is in the soundwaves. but most people won't care enough to notice the difference in details and punchiness. mp3 variates a lot in punchiness, the kick drum is in your face, it all sounds more wobbly.

While FLAC/losless feels flat, hard to explain it but if you've ever been in a studio during mixing, that's how lossless feels extremely TIGHT no matter the volume

once you notice it once it's impossible not to notice it. you can spot the difference immediately, especially if you boost up the volume.

again, most people don't care about video/audio quality at all so it's a pointless argument, audiophilia is a niche and a hobby.
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>>106998163
The proof is in the ABX test.
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>>106997887
they dont make iems that sound that bad
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>>106998074
>he doesnt listen to the guitar hero rip of death magnetic
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>>106998163
>but most people won't care enough to notice the difference in details and punchiness
more like all people won't notice the difference because it's inaudible
>once you notice it once it's impossible not to notice it.
IS IT? IS IT IMPOSSIBLE? prove it then.
here
https://abx.digitalfeed.net/lame.320.html
do it faggot prove you can hear the "wobbliness and variance in punchiness"
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10 IEMs later
still no IEM has such wide soundstage as the original Blessing 2s.
I don't know what's up with that but it's true, those things sound like headphones.
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>>106996999
im mature for my age *holds up spork*
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>>106998226
Headphones have no soundstage tho.
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>>106997631
>he has a folding knife for "self-defense" and to show it off!
You silly boy!
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>>106997631
When will basslets learn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBskzS0dgRU
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>>106998102
there's like 3 songs that will trip up lame.exe and you'll still have to max the volume to hear it
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>>106998225
>using a web browser as a player
it's not bit-perfect, retard. it defeats the whole point.

that "lossless" file ceases to be lossless when played through a browser. no browser has Exclusive Mode, those tests are useless

also, spotify/apple music/itunes/youtube music all play at 256kbps as their highest quality, so put that "lossless" against 320kbps files is dishonest (and you WOULD be able to tell the difference on a bit-perfect stream, tho yes it is way too subtle to justify an obsession with lossless, i agree)
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best pos for this song?
https://youtu.be/AmKRGEpOQr0?t=200
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>>106998316
>that "lossless" file ceases to be lossless when played through a browser. no browser has Exclusive Mode, those tests are useless
you don't need exclusive mode for it to be bit perfect tho?
>also, spotify/apple music/itunes/youtube music all play at 256kbps as their highest quality, so put that "lossless" against 320kbps files is dishonest
No it's not? Claim was that you can hear the difference between mp3 specifically
>mp3 variates a lot in punchiness, the kick drum is in your face, it all sounds more wobbly
>and you WOULD be able to tell the difference on a bit-perfect stream, tho yes it is way too subtle to justify an obsession with lossless, i agree
wrong. it is inaudible
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>>106998163
>i mean the proof is in the soundwaves
can you actually show it with soundwaves?
even 16 bit is enough to reconstruct a wave perfectly
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Pos with 0.1% THD has 60dB SINAD -> 9.67 bits. You ain't hearing shit my niggas. Of course noise is more audible than distortion but DAC/amps at realistic volumes(NOT the volume SNR is measured at) struggle to have even 90dB SNR.
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I want to buy a chill KZ, that doesnt have too much energy in the upper mids and lower treble. Any suggestions?

I already own the AM16, PRX, Vader Pro and Castor Bass. I find all of them a bit thin sounding, like too V shaped. Something with better mids and less energy in the high frequencies.

What do you recommend?

Decet, Zenith, EDC Pro? Something else?
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>>106998578
>I want to buy a chill KZ
Why
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>>106998587
Because they're cheap
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>>106994488
Fola's must have just went up on amazon and I bought em, should get here in 2 weeks.
>>106995241
>>106992964
>>106992773
either of these work with android auto? kinda want to use something other than my phone if I can help it
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do earbuds belong in iem general or headphone general?
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>>106998912
Nobody knows.
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>>106998578
>owns KZ
>doesn't EQ
what



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