>bought a new $150 motorola>had to spend an hour setting it up and disabling all of the shitware/useless features i dont use>when i finished the initial setup wizard it started downloading like 15 apps in the background (copilot, candy crush, farmville, basically malware)>live caption is enabled in the volume control by default for whatever reason, apparently it thinks im deaf>upon opening the app drawer i'm greeted by boomer slop news articles, oops i forgot to turn that feature off>eventually just give up and unlock the bootloader, put an AOSP GSI on it>works fine now, and i get 16 hours of SoT>now understand why it got 3.2 stars on amazon by normalfagswhy do companies go out of their way to take what could be a nice product and then make it absolutely shit out of the box? i'm pretty sure the poor mediatek chip was throttling at one point because of how much utter shitware was running in the background. motorola's supposed to be one of the better companies when it comes to this stuff too.
>>107000937not an issue with apple. Zero carrier bloat on the phone>but sars, android is a very good valueI don't care, fuck your bloat
>>107000937That's sadly how Android phones are kept cheap otherwise they would be selling them at a loss. iPhones are still incredibly overpriced but an Android phone with 0 bloat wouldn't be too far behind in price.It sucks but I still wouldn't recommend people get iPhones given how they upload every single thing to iCloud without your permission. Which has been hacked and had shit leaked all over the internet 100s of times by now. If your favorite female celebrity has used an iPhone (probably) then there's photos out there of her gaping roast beef out there.
>>107000937My wife Yuki
>>107000937All that crap being preinstalled is what allows for the phone to be so cheap through subsidisiation.This also happens with TVs, eg. An LG C-series OLED is incredible value for what it represents in terms of the quality of the product vs. the price; yes it's annoying there's dedicated buttons on the remote for Netflix and Amazon Prime, etc. which can't be rebound to do something useful if you don't care about those services, that the TV will show you ads on the home screen and it's probably phoning home constantly to LG who is absolutely selling that data, but you know what? LG does also sell commercial TVs to the hospitality industry, which are basically the same as the consumer models just without the ads/streaming service tie-ins, and if you go look up how much those things cost you'll find for all the inconvenience that consumers are getting a pretty substantial discount. Plus if you disconnect your TV from the internet all that shit no longer matters, so for the people like OP who bother to invest a little bit of time debloating your device you can think of it as getting a lot of extra "value" for your money.
>>107000937I thought motorola was good with bloat
>>107001260The TVs sold to hospitals are being marked up, retard. The prices are astronomical because purchasing contracts are done via competition by salesmen, not competition on merit.
>>107000937motorola is by far the last bloated phone manufactury i know of. got mine in '22 and the debloat process is easy and painless.
