I'm 23 and autistic. I'm trying to get a CS degree. What jobs can I get that pay well and will let me never have to communicate to anyone?
none, there are 0 jobs
>>107009675you could become a prostitute and pretend to be mute
>>107009675Kernal developer
>>107009675you're always going to have to communicate with someone.
>>107009675>never have to communicate to anyonethose are actually the ONLY jobs that are going to be valuable, since everyone turns into a lazy POS. trying to put a robot in between them having to do anything.that means, people that will actually do stuff related to, or train themselves for this aspect of labor (socializing, confronting someone, facing rejection, arguing) will be the least commonautists used to be cool and novel, now everyone wants to be an autist.you'll have to salesman max, fortunately it can be pretty fun even for an autist. just get over the rejection aspect and treat it like a game.
>>107009746>be me>not a code monkey, not a "neurodivergent uwu" softboy>salesman maxer>understand that AI can write code, but it can't talk to people>CS grads crying because ChatGPT took their internship>meanwhile I'm selling AI solutions to the companies that replaced them>don't need to be best coder>just need to know enough tech lingo to sound fluent while I close the deal>autists optimizing for correctness>I'm optimizing for influence>they beg for remote work so they never have to talk to anyone>I'm shaking hands and walking away with the contract>they get anxiety attacks from Slack messages>I get dopamine from rejection>each "no" = XP>learned to weaponize charisma and persistence>while they're grinding LeetCode>I'm grinding people>end result: they make $80k maintaining my product>I make $300k selling it>tfw I realized social courage is the new rare stat>tfw the future belongs to the man who can code a little, and sell a lot>tfw salesman maxer will inherit the earth
>>107009794How can I become a salesman in this industry? What jobs should I research?
>>107009746>>107009831why would you tell someone who wants to talk to noone to become a salesman? obviously his social skill is low and his tech skill is high. salesman is a bad fit
>>107009855I'm not the OP
>>107009794>>I'm grinding peopleSounds like a one way trip to HR
>>107009855well because he's still young, i'm just trying to change his perspective. you can actually be a salesman without ever having to talk to someone, it just helps with authority immensely if they know youre real. probably only so they can punch you/have you arrested it you fuck them over. but sales takes creativity, ingenuity, discipline, to be able to sell. the best salesman is also an engineer because he knows those 'QoL' things people like and appreciate, and he can implement it. he can turn it into a business after he makes it. they are complimentary skills, for anyone wanting to create stuff, and that's what programming is. >>107009875haha funny thing is, sales people are all assholes but they're not likely to get fired, all depending on their performance. they bring the fucking money in and pay that cunt.>>107009831every business in the world is in the business of sales. if you can bring them more money, you're hired. a lot of places will just let you work off of a commission to so you grind and get paid when you sell something, theres no overhead for you in that case, and once the sales done your job is done, so thats comfortable, you move on again and do it again.you just need a good grasp on psychology, consumer psychology, emotional manipulation, color psychology, neurolingistuic programming i mean it gets deep. copywriting, how to make a good sales landing page. then theres even more autistic sales stuff like analytic tracking, A/B testing. all stemming from the same atmosphere, the optimization of sales and making money.
>>107009891i suppose, but there might also be a level of autism you can't even begin to comprehend what it's like to be inside
>>107009675>What jobs can I get that pay well and will let me never have to communicate to anyone?lol
>>107009930that could be true, i hope it's not in their case because it's not natural to not want to be around people. i completely understand not caring about being popular or having a bunch of meaningless friends, but that's normal to not care about that fake shit.
>>107009950well, is it natural to post an OP like the OP on 4chan? perhaps we're dealing with someone outside the norm ^.^
>>107009965retarded pea
>>107009965technically, in the case of OP, he is still trying to get advice from his peers (Us) so its demonstrably false that he doesnt care about other people, or socializing
And im 36 and autistic and im not going to get a degree to get a job
>>107009675haha OP I love froggo XD
>>107009675based froggoposter
>>107009675>I'm 23 and autistic.
>>107009794>>107009831>>107009855B2B sales is soul-sucking if you can't flip the switch to enjoy conversation, but it really can be as simple as persistence and following a basic script and schedule like an NPC. Relational sales is pretty straightforward and easy to learn. You don't even have to enjoy or be skilled at regular peer social interaction to learn to play this game well.Find their pain, position yourself or your product as the solution to their pain, and orbit their awareness enough for them to remember you exist when it's time for them to solve their problem. That's it.It doesn't have to be a cutthroat thing at all, people just prefer buying stuff from people they like and remember. Being autistically genuine and unaware of social norms can actually be an advantage in sales if you know how to use it, you can give off a "won't fuck me over" vibe to normies that wins their trust.Businesses generally lose nothing on sales people, you're a revenue generator instead of a necessary line item expense. Getting your foot in the door is easy, it's a career with a low barrier to entry and businesses are always hiring.If you don't fuck it up, that cash-generating position also buys you a lot of leeway to be an absolutely freakish employee, be hated by your coworkers, or even treat colleagues with open contempt. You keep the lights on for everyone, what are they going to do?
The world is other people, you are not an island. You have to work together with people to build anything of note, this isn’t a bug it’s a feature of being human
>>107010118yeah but there's 20% people / 80% programming (systems) and 80% people / 20% (other?) sales or whatever tf you guys do
>>107010145Every interview and promotional process you'll ever go through in your career is a sales exercise where you're the product.
>>107009675None. Become a security guard with a flex schedule and get on good terms with the supervisor so he puts you at an unsupervised full time nightshift in an empty warehouse. Then bring a laptop and contribute to open source between patrols.
>>107010151>>107010110why are used car salesmen on /g/? did you guys figure out how to install ubuntu?
>>107010118The nuclear bomb, the apollo missions, the blackbird plane, DARPA, the jet engine, the power grid, the transistor, gene editing, whatever world revolutionary technology you can find it was made by a GROUPIndividuals don’t make shit happen, groups do
>>107010199SaaS sales is an irl infinite money glitch.
>>107010210>penicillinmade by a messy guy away on vacation
>>107010286Sounds great if you're indian.
>>107010210TempleOS. Made by a group called Terry A. Davis and the og God from the Holy Bible who drove him nuts with its development.
>>107009746>autists used to be cool and novel, now everyone wants to be an autist.Ive been diagnosed since birth. I was told to write a goal down and it was to get a job where I can get paid well, not have to do much, and have next to no interaction with people.
>>107009930I just don't want to play the game anymore. I would like to do my own thing and having security for it. Is it really that bad to want that? I hate having to talk to anyone because it turns into petty shit if it doesn't already start since everyone is an unhinged psychopath waiting to strike.
>>107010427>I would like to do my own thingyou can, but you need to be able to sell your 'genius' as well. your issue seems to stem from self confidence. when you are confident in what you are selling>something thats actually going to help themthen theres no feelings of insincerity if they say no, or dont like you, you just pity THEM because theyre losing out on your helpcheck out this internet marketing forum, this subforum specifically. it has the lowest thread count in the forum, why, because of the things i've been saying in the thread. people want to take the path of least resistance, this wont change it will get worse. https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/offline-marketing.132/
>>107009794>but it can't talk to peopleI have some bad news for you. A voice agent with Grok as the LLM is basically capable of replacing every low level tech support and sales person with the right config.I'm building my own employees, and it will eventually be doing full-cycle sales calls/emails/sms/scheduling/etc. for me.I have this setup to do basic customer service stuff like reporting an issue, but it's an agent framework with integrations (tools). The in-person (physical) jobs will be around a bit longer, but not that much longer.We're all screwed if we don't own things.
>>107010486>The in-person (physical) jobs will be around a bit longer, but not that much longer.youre talking crazy. its all years and years away from being implemented.what you have posted is a gold mine to sell to OTHER businesses, not to use yourself to sell whatever other thing you had.but that will involve you being a salesman again, back to square one. B2B king.
>>107010486and yes there will probably a point in time where it's just AI systems talking to each other trying to make deals
>>107010427>everyone is an unhinged psychopath waiting to strikeNo. Almost everyone isn't that. Most people just want to understand people around them and get on a do their stuff.For almost any job you need to communicate. Doesn't mean you need to do it frequently, or to always do it face to face.
>>107010358Truly the modern day Noah>>107010210The Linux kernel by LinusBitcoin by anonMendelian genetics by MendelEuler, Laplace, Newton, probably a lot of mathematicians AC motor by TeslaHydraulics and syringe by Pascal (and more math)C++ by Bjarne StroustrupCarnot Engine (theoretical model) by CarnotPrinting press by GutenbergDifference engine by BabbageThe first computer network by George StibitzWorld Wide Web by Tim Berners-Lee
>>107009675You're not going to find a job that has zero communication but the deeper you get down the software stack and the closer to the hardware you get, the more your autistic tendencies will be valuable and tolerated. Stay far FAR away from anything web related. Some potential areas for you:Kernel developerDevice Driver developerData conversion specialistFirmware developer
>>107009675If youre a turbo autist, you can consider getting into theoretical stuff like algorithm design. Its really hard computer science not the webshit you see everywhere that a jeet with chatgpt can churn out. The problems involves make leetcode hard look easy.If academia is not your thing since you still need to teach, banks will use your work in trading algos to make bank, defense may have use for the research. This field is likely used to working with autists so that might help >>107010613Quicksort by HoareMergesort by von NeumannDijkstra's algorithm by DijkstraBittorrent protocol by CohenShor's algorithm by ShorSimplex algorithm by Dantzig
>>107009675If you want the money of someone you need to communicate with them. Are thieves the real autists?
>>107009675>getting into IT for the money good luck, youre gonna need it
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Why would you waste your time on a degree? You WILL be replaced because your oligarch masters literally do not understand or respect labor. Go for a trade like eletrician, carpentry, welding, even truck driving. You can learn computers on your own, colleges don't have some special secret knowledge that only they can unlock for you.
Transmission rebuilder. That's the last job out there with a tard filter. No amount of nepotism or screeching about representation will rebuild that transmission.
A decade ago, I never thought I would beAt 23on the verge of spontaneous combustion, woe is me!But I guess that it comes with the territoryAn ominous landscape of never-ending calamityI need you to hear, I need you to seeThat I have had all I can takeAnd exploding seems like a definite possibility to meSo pardon me while I burst into flamesI've had enough of the world and its people's mindless gamesSo pardon me while I burn and rise above the flamePardon me, pardon me, I'll never be the same
>>107009675become an electrician or plumber or something you'll probably make more money and people will mostly just offer you a drink and then leave the room until you're done. programming jobs are 99% trying to sneak in programming between bullshit conversations with insufferable people which could've been an email
>>107010566>No. Almost everyone isn't that.Yes, they literally are.
>>107011025She doesn't look autistic
