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I thought Linux couldn't be fixed...
How did they do it?
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>>107011677
gentoo clears
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>>107011677
Linux is shit, GNU has always been amazing.
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>>107011892
>source-based, yet no reproducible builds
>overlays are just a convenient excuse for the shitty official repos that many users fall for
>users and developers alike in complete denial over the amount of time it takes to compile software
>"customizable" distribution, yet it's getting less and less choice and devs discourage anything but orthodox configs all the time
>circlejerking maintainers who coc competent ones into obvlivion
>use flags and all that other shit ultimately makes no perceivable difference on a desktop
>most bloated distribution of all: needs build-time dependencies by default and keeps all the sources (removing build dependencies is not practical since they are needed for updates anyway)
>hundreds of unsolved bugs that are ignored at best and brushed off as unimportant at worst
>untested, shit breaks even on the stable branch and isn't fixed for months. its "stability" is a complete myth
>openrc sucks. it being the default is basically just a marketing point since it works better with systemd anyway, a lot less people would give a shit about gentoo if it weren't for this
>boasts about supporting many architectures, yet only x86 and amd64 have a non-shit selection of packages
>"unstable" branch is slow as shit, far from being "bleeding edge". even debian sid is better in this regard
>literally won't merge valid prs to fix bugs and deficiencies in the repos even after having been properly audited and approved
>original author doesn't even use it on desktops, he's a macfag
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>>107011892
nixos and guix made gentoo obsolete.
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>>107011908
>openrc sucks.
i use alpine linux and i have no problem with it
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>How did they do it?
It's made by people who actually write code
no women
no pride grifters
no ecelebs
etc...
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>>107011958
what's something guix does that gentoo doesn't, aside from being reproducible, which I don't care about?
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Last time I tried the Guix distro it didn't have the required drivers for my system.
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>>107012126
>having multiple versions of the same package is normal and well supported
>transactional upgrades and rollbacks
>don't need root to install packages
>define your entire system (including home by default, unlike troonixos) in a single file
>cross compile like it's nothing
>ran by straight and white GNU chads
>notarized
>used by actual companies that create things
>doesn't use outdated and broken tech with hacks on top of it to keep working
>recompile your entire system with 0 issues using a single short command
>thoroughly vetted and tested by professionals
>makes corponiggers seethe

That's just from the top of my head
Your hobby project distro ran by trannies who can't get a job is a failed experiment kek

>>107012137
https://gitlab.com/nonguix/nonguix
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this is what happens when straight thinking white men get together to create something
trannies could never LOL
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>>107012309
>used by actual companies that create things
name 3
>makes corponiggers seethe
make up your mind already
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>>107012309
>>107012534
>Before he attended high school, McCarthy became interested in science by reading a translation of 100,000 Whys, a Russian popular science book for children.[8] He was fluent in the Russian language and made friends with Russian scientists during multiple trips to the Soviet Union, but distanced himself after making visits to the Soviet Bloc, which led to him becoming a conservative Republican.[9]
Big yikes
AI, anti-communism, and conservative republican MAGA chuddery?
This LISP language looks very problematic and fash
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>>107012309
>having multiple versions of the same package is normal and well supported
Gentoo does this for some packages, like gcc and python.
>recompile your entire system with 0 issues using a single short command
In Gentoo, that's
> emerge -ae @world
The a is optional, it makes portage ask you to confirm before starting.
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>>107011677
Is this distro even active? It says their last stable release was almost 3 years ago.
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>>107012550
Something bluesky doesn't tell you about is that gays don't like trannies just like normal people don't
autogynephilia followed by self mutilation is not a sexuality it's a serious mental illness and everyone but picrel recognizes that, again, including faggots and dykes
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>>107012683
all the packages are up to date
>>107012669
>some packages
LMAO
>emerge -ae @world
not guaranteed to succeed and could break your system unlike guix where if it would fail it won't run and thanks to transactional upgrades it cannot possibly break anything
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>>107012683
Latest development image seems to be from early May.
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>>107012126
Consistency.
The package manager (Guix), init system (Shepherd), and even the CI (Cuirass) are all written in GNU Guile (Scheme/Lisp) and fully hackable.
Also, being a GNU Project, there's good integration with other GNU projects like Emacs.
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>>107012756
Even that is quite a while ago.
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>>107012126
see >>107012778
And not just consistency - it's harmony, even

Gentoo is made by tens or hundreds of NEETs with no clear goals let alone ones that align

In Guix every single part of the system just falls in place perfectly and agrees with each other

It's the final solution to the Linux desktop question
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it rapes niggercattle so it's not going anywhere
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>>107012872
it sounds like a bsd rather than a linux distro
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Why would you use Arch when Guix exists and it's updates don't break anything?
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Windows 7 blows it out of the water.
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>>107011677
do you even use guix?
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why lisp?
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>>107011677
why does the logo look like ovaries???
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>>107011677
ok but is it better than NixOS?

That's the real question here.
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>>107013995
You see any trannies behind guix?
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>>107013995
https://lab.abilian.com/Tech/Linux/Packaging/Guix%20vs.%20Nix/
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>>107012620
>Big yikes
>AI, anti-communism, and conservative republican MAGA chuddery?
>This LISP language looks very problematic and fash
not to mention McCarthy being in scientific racism discussion groups with Steve Sailer, Minksy being a known Epstein client, and the whole LISP/MIT milieu being heavily funded and encouraged by the US military-industrial complex.
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>>107014182
yikes
time to #cancel all these LISP and Emacs chuds before this fash MAGA cult grows
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>>107014129
there's barely anyone behind guix.
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>>107013517
it's pure s-ex
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After seeing all the deleted and the not deleted posts, I literally cannot figure out what is and is not against the rules. What the fuck is with this board?
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>>107014404
go fuck yourself you kike tranny.
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>>107012778
>>107012872
this
nothing feels better than knowing my system is not a hotpodge shitfest that's hanging by a thread (of a tranny's neovag hair)

>>107014312
a software project doesn't need 20 community managers funded by donations
kys troon

>>107014404
could you please point out the rule breaking posts?
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>>107012595
>name 3
Google
Microsoft
Amazon
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>>107013995
depends
what are your preferred pronouns?
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>>107014404
It's basically "don't be an insufferable faggot", which is a high bar to clear nowadays.
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>>107012309
>>don't need root to install packages
lies troon, how do you update the /boot symlinks to your kernel/initrramfs without root or /run/current-system when you update the init and there's probably a lot more of packages that require root but I don't care enough about your garbage troonware to look it up.
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>>107014673
>troonware
Not a single tranny has ever been involved in Guix
On the other hand, your hobby distro has so many death cult members on their team the whole thing could collapse overnight LOL
>B-But my maintainers said nigger or something!
Same coin
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Guix has the best documentation I have ever seen.

I literally wrapped my head around it in like 15 minutes

Freetards managed to do it yet 24/7 online trannies can't write a single doc page for nixos and you have to learn from code snippets scattered all over the internet
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>>107014737
>your hobby distro
joke's on you I run my own distro so zero troon involvement, while your troonware is inspired by troonOS and the whole concept is trannypilled.
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>>107014673
>how do you update the /boot
Pretty much all distros need root privileges to do this, retard.
Still, with Guix you can install/manage/remove packages rootless with the guix package or guix home command. Meanwhile, with other package managers (like Gentoo's Emerge) you need root privileges even to accomplish this simple task.
Anyway, fortunately there's a lot of WIP to further improve this on Guix:
https://hpc.guix.info/blog/2025/03/build-daemon-drops-its-privileges/
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>>107014804
so don't claim your package manager doesn't require root retard, and you the only reason it doesn't require root is because it installed packages in your troonstore that breaks everything and forces you to use only troonware approved scripts or packages. I could install all my packages in a directory owned by my user and add them to the path and not require root as well but what's the point, literally none retard.
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>>107014787
>I run my own distro
chopped?
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>>107014846
>I could install all my packages in a directory owned by my user and add them to the path and not require root as well but what's the point
Sure, if you love dealing with dependency hell and package breakage. Guixchads keep winning, anyway.
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>>107014891
> if you love dealing with dependency hell and package breakage.
it just works but like I said absolutely pointless
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>>107014949
nice
now install firefox-esr in the same directory
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nix already won. guix is for people who don't like hardware and sperg out when they see texts files not lit erred with ()())()()()((((())(()()()(()() spam.
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>>107014962
>firefox-esr
why would I need firefox-esr when I use firefox, I don't have it packaged and don't have the need for it but it would just work since I could just define my build script to install firefox-esr as firefox-esr if it installs itself as firefox but I have no idea if that's the case and couldn't care less. your whole os is useless troonware
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>>107014989
>why
I accept your concession.
Also, you're the one coping & seething in this random guix thread. Typical troon behavior.
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>>107011908
rent free lmao
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>>107015042
you're the troon boasting useless features, oh look I can have 10 versions of firefox installed, isn't that great right, oh and by the way I need to use some nonguix repo because I'm so cucked my distro won't let use non-free stuff lmao. now you go ahead and install duckstation on your distro (no flatpak or appimage)
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>>107014965
>nix already won
Not really
There are many competing nix forks now (Lix, Snix, Eka, etc.), all while the NixOS foundation is in the middle of a "civil war" between SJW troons and Anduril chuds.
No flakes, no proper documentation, good Nix devs being banned, endless drama... Not really a win.
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>>107015125
>won't let use non-free
Oh, this glownigger is a proprietary nonfree spyware shill. Nevermind.
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>>107015152
didn't realize I was talking to a pedo troon
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>>107015093
>no argument
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>>107015130
all of this and i'd still rather use nixos than guix.
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The only distro where everything *actually* just works
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>>107015130
>but the troons man. the troons!!! i can't stop thinking about troons!!! *troons out*
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>>107015309
Your distribution could collapse overnight because of them.
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>>107015186
Reproducible builds are a specific use case and should be covered by user-space utilities, not the system itself.
There's no point in using a source based distro if you just want to have official repo packages and don't need to integrate your own programs into the system. Overlays let you have your own ebuild repositories with ease.
Oh, the horror, gentoo compiles a lot! Anyway...
That's not a system's problem, that's a tranny infestation X1.
That's not a system's problem, that's a tranny infestation X2.
For desktop use flags control which primary gui widget you're going to use, this affects the general look of your graphical system. They control support for X11/Wayland. They tell you which files your mpv and ffmpeg is going to support. Etc etc.
-Os, and if you really don't want to have build dependencies there's always an option to use a build server.
That's not a system's problem, that's a tranny infestation X3.
That's not a system's problem, that's a tranny infestation X4.
Openrc sucks so much Alpine, the container distro, uses it. Cope.
That's not a system's problem, that's a tranny infestation X5.
The "stable" branch is running latests releases of programs, why do you need "unstable"? If you need bleeding-edge, 9999 ebuilds just work.
That's not a system's problem, that's a tranny infestation X6.
Original authors are gay. See debian, void.

Regardless, if you're satisfied with guix, then it's good for you. I'm fine with my choice, you're fine with yours. To each their own.
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>>107015477
>The "stable" branch is running latests releases of programs, why do you need "unstable"? If you need bleeding-edge, 9999 ebuilds just work.
outdated, no 9999 build, joke distro
Gentoo 18k 15k 11k 76.7% 3.1k 22.7%, according to repology 22.7% of packages are out of date lmao



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