I don't want Linux. I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat. That's what like 97% of people who actually care about their OS want.
>>107011842Microsoft isn't willing to give you that
>>107011842>I don't want a bicycle I just want a car with two wheels and no engine
>>107011842Sucks to be you.
>>107011842all you want is to play vidya gayms
W7 to W10 already made evident that MS will strongarm software and hardware into adoption no matter whatthe best solution to any of their future shenanigans is a sandboxed hardware VM for all your non-critical shit
>>107011842
>>107011842You can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>107011842I want an OS that is designed to be as bad for a UX as possible. God I fucking love linux
It's called ReactOS, you've had 25 years to contribute to it.
>>107011963>Russian Cool cool. Does WannaCry run on it?
>>107011963Can't wait for the public beta release in 500 years.
>i dont want to stop getting infected downloading random exes off search hits that magicly fix my one googlr hit
>>107011842That is almost everyone except the muh open sauce commies. The thing is Loonix is the only option to have a shit without telemetry. We better embrace it and make it werk. Hopefully we will finally gas all the jews and their pajeets and go to the stars.
>>107011902>all you want is to play vidya gaymsYes.
>>107011842Just revert to Windows 7. Unless you fell for the meme of modern hardware, you will be fine. Plenty of legacy-oriented browsers like r3dfox or supermium work fine. Many nuprograms can be run just fine with VxKex and all the old software from its era work out of the box, and usually still mogs latest, up to date troonix alternatives. And no, you will not get hacked, this is tranny propaganda used to groom people into transitioning to troonix. Security updates do not matter at all if you are not retarded. Every single linux tranny who makes those videos like "OOOOH I CONNECTED OLD WINDOWS TO THE INTERNET AND GOT HACKED IN 20 PICO SECONDS" either downloads the malware on their own or exposes it directly to the internet, with no firewall ,NAT etc. which is normally not the case. If you really want to use nuhardware, your best best is IoT LTSC, which is proably the least kiked version of modern windows.
>>107011842>I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat
>>107012004Centralized package repos are less secure than downloading installers, all it takes to brick an entire distro's userbase is one bad actor.
>>107012004Yeah getting supply chain attacked because there is a giant red flashing single point of failure is a genius move.>b-b-b-b-but it g-g-got c-c-caught!Yeah congrats nigger I'm sure they won't try again or get better at it, after all (You) never did get better at anything.
>>107011842Windows, but without the explorer shell and just a minimal game launcher.
>>107012348This. What distro allows you to uninstall the package manager?
>>107012348Microsoft itself disagrees with you wintard
>>107011842The closest thing to that is ReactOS but that OS was way too far from being even remotely usable and is only being used for testing and development of ReactOS itself
>>107012403They also think a tool that screenshots your desktop constantly is secure so I don't really trust post-jeeting MS
>>107011842Microsoft wants to spy on you, sell your data, show you ads on start menu and notepad.exe, screenshot your screen without consent, and force you to use the AI slop machine.So why don't you do that instead?
>>107012456Windows Recall used to keep user data in an unencrypted MySQL database, did they ever fix that?Because honestly it was kind of pathetic how little effort they put into securing their stolen data
>>107012348And all it takes is one random exe distribution site to get fucked to take you down as well. Even meme languages like Golang cache centrally all the shitty go module urls you could possibly use for a reason.
>>107011842>>107011842>I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat.That's too much to ask for
>>107012473Yeah, you, because you're a fucking retard and ran porn.mkv.exe from some random website. Meanwhile if a package maintainer decides he wants to start bitcoin mining everyone is getting that the next time you update with no warning.
>>107011842Unironically, you might have to identify use cases and split your computing into three devices.Gaming - consoles.Web browsing, media, email - TabletsWork Programs - MB air, Mac MiniYes, that's three devices with flow split in between them and cost of three devices - that is the cost of not being able to use Linux.
>>107012466Why would fix it if idiots will keep paying for the privilege of being data mined?
>>107012498your same retarded scenario applies if something like 7-zip.org gets hacked. Low IQ retarded faggot. Maybe spend all of 2 minutes thinking before posting.
Okay so how to do this>ethernet cable connected to computer>another ethernet cable connected to router>device inbetween>only allows a specific program and port to communicate via it and relays to the router
>>107012539Anyone using 7zip just downloads it once and moves on, they aren't updating it constantly.
>>107011842>I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat.well that's just too bad then that Microsoft doesn't want that. You really though Windows served your interests and not its real master?by the way I can 100% bet that linux devs and users will very quickly learn to resent the inane bullshit of unwanted entitled windows refugees.
>>107012576Wanting functional software is 'entitlement' according to you
>>107012575So they're even more retarded? You realize there are compressor based cves out for various versions of 7zip right? Fucking retarded faggot. Why are Windows users objectively the dumbest posters on /g/? Is it because it's the normie default or something?
>>107011842?https://amelabs.net/
>>107012510>Gaming - consolesExcept Microsoft just released the ROG Xbox Ally X and that adds a new UI that was made just for gaming. They are trying to compete with SteamOS.I think that eventually this mode will be available on every Windows PC.https://youtu.be/_XhDRAq4YO8&t=183
>>107012588We're discussing the distribution model not vulnerabilities within the software, if 7zip's site is hacked the effects are isolated to people unlucky enough to download malware from them during that time. Anyone not doing that, or downloading from a mirror site is fine. A malicious package update compromises everyone with that package installed, it has to be actually spotted before any harm can be done, as everyone is pulling their packages from a central source. You're relying on some volunteer to protect you.
>>107012588sirs are microsoft certified SYSTEMS ENGINEERS with the most advanced install wizard following skills
>>107012675You realize most shitty software have "update managers" right retard-kun? Wincucks need to be roped.
Whoa! Hey every one, this guy talked to>like 97% of people who actually care about their OS wantDamn, guess I'll install windows now.
>>107012686If they bothered to read or learn anything then they wouldn't be here complaining about whatever isn't windows. And then what would we do all day? Fastfetch threads?
>>107012681The irony is even Enterprise environments usually have some central software repository that push out updates and configurations. It's so obviously required in 2025 that even Windows Server 2025 is getting Windows Store features and winget.
>>107012581"Why isn't the filesystem like Windows?" is not wanting functional software
>>107012826windows file system is more functional and intuitive
>>107012744It makes sense to standardize in a corporate environment, but some troon dictating what software is available to me does not.
>>107012686Again missing the point entirely, it's all isolated to that one piece of software, and to users that haven't disabled updates to it. You're also ignoring all the software that doesn't ship with an update manager.
not even Linux users want Linux, that's why there's a quadrillion distros
>>107011842Take it up with GPU vendors. They're the ones who write almost all of the drivers and they often only write them for windows.
>>107012461Skill issue. You don't have to do any of those things.
>>107012510This is what people who are not <insert_whatever> fan boys do. There is no 1-size-fits-all solution, certainly not Linux with gazillion distros (and they all fail as a desktop OS).
>>107012835You can remove the source if you don’t trust it anymore, retard. Hell, you can add usb, cd, dvd, or local repositories and only get updates from that, if you haven’t taken your MEDS today.
>>107012846On Windows an installer can get replaced with a malicious version when a website gets hacked by a third party, and nobody will be able to detect it because nobody on Windows does signature verification to tell if their binaries come from a legit source or not.The only case where this happens on Linux is when a trusted package maintainer deliberately decides to go rogue and exploit their own users. Which, while it does sometimes happen, usually these package maintainers have long-standing reputations in the software development industry that they don't want to throw away by deliberately signing and distributing malware. Most of these people have their real names and identities associated with these projects, and they could easily face legal repercussions for distributing malware in their packages. For instance, if the owner of the 7zip started putting malware in his packages do you think he would get away with that? People literally know who he is and would kick his ass in real life if that happened
The only reason why you want windows in the first place is because Microsoft has spend billions making sure you're addicted to it. It's time to break out of the corporate brainwashing, anon.
>>107011842linux is the default why you want a worse system with added bloat and telemetry?
>>107011842¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>107012313Why are all the connoisseur level anime pics distressed women or women with their makeup running? Or like armpits and crap. I feel like this is a new thing
>>107011842Linux isn't hard. you can just download a Desktop Environment like KDE.
>>107011842>I don't want LinuxGAYAYOU ARE A GAY FAGGOT AND WORSE
>>107011842>I don't want Linux. I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat.The closest thing that exists to that now and going forward is normie-friendly Linux like Mint. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. You could be one of those people who tries to stay on Windows 7 for eternity. But honestly, Linux isn't bad once you get used to it. It's come a long way in recent years. It's pretty much plug-and-play now, most games run out of the box with Proton, and for the few things which absolutely refuse to run outside of Windows (for some reason everyone in these threads is a music producer who uses FL Studio) you can just launch a VM to run all that crap. The writing is on the wall: Windows has a case of enshittification and it's terminal. The sooner you adapt to something else, the better. Continuing with Windows is non-viable.
>>107011842Microsoft is giving the middle finger to all of it's users. A person who pays for an operating system, whether it is included with a new computer or purchased as a standalone license, should not be subjected to integrated advertisements. This practice represents a broken social contract between the software provider and the user, and it is a strong principle-based reason to abandon a product.A compromise could be offering Win 11 in tiers.Base tier includes bloat and ads.Premium tier removes those.
Why worry? Just use 10 LTSC IoT until 2032, figure out something by then.
>>107011902I look like this.
>>107012896>they only support windowshttps://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/freebsd-x64-archive/
>>107011842Windows Enterprise is exactly what you want. You can completely disable telemetry using group policies.
>>107012025There are other things I like about Linux other than privacy. There are also some drawbacks of course.
>>107014549resets on update(have to do all the things over again after it sends all that cached data while it said please dont turn off your computer its being updated!)
o&o shutup 10wpd.appsimple as
>>107012072Lmao in the anno domoni 2025 Linux is less tinkering than what Windows users are subject to. Truly a wild time to be alive.>>107014654Same applies here. If you consider repairing some registry changes after an update and running weird scripts, Gentoo is less tinkering than Windows 10/11 in the long run. But even that's harmless to what the 7 copers are supposed to make their computer run. In the near future Windows 10 will have the same fate as Windows 7 and the same copes that people use to justify their usage of 7 will be applied to 10 too. Lunacy, if you ask me.
>>107011842> I don't want <OS without corporation taking your rights away>>I just want <OS> without <corporation taking my rights away>
>>107011842just install win 10 ltsc iotthats already better than all stinking linuxes ever made.
>telemetryA nothingburger>bloatWhat do you mean? I ran 11 on a 4670k and was fast as fuck, even witn just a sata SSD, now with nve drives all around this last decade you will never feel your os lagging, at all
>>10701184299% of people who settled with linux want that, anon. Use windows 10 iot enterprise ltsc for now. You can also consider getting on the windows 7 resurgence bandwagon. Also demand that a real ground up windows clone be made. ReactOS could do it if they weren't cucks and looked at the leaked windows xp source code.
>>107011842It's over for tech normies who can't get the old shit working again.
>>107011842how does it feel to want something you will never be offered?>sent from my Mac Mini M4 (base)
>>107014859>less tinkering>must tinker to install proprietary codecs on most distros>must tinker with installing software when your packages are out of date on most distros>must tinker when something break during an updoot on bleeding edge distros>must tinker when dealing with hardware thats even remotely niche>must tinker when trying to re-create your setup without connecting to the internetyeah, tinker-free experience, troonix sister.
>>107015355keyed CobXP pose.
>>107015298I can't believe the amount of people that don't even seem to know it exists. Either that or they are ignoring us. I've been yelling it out loud for weeks, telling people to go to massgrave and everything. I mean come on. We have have windows 11 iot enterprise ltsc if we absolutely had to fall back on it. The versions already released aren't pozzed with all the recall and ai shit and various other bloat.We still have windows for now but we need capable people to make a true windows clone, the iron is hot right now, someone needs to strike it.
>>107011842Here's the thing anon. You will like Linux. 99.9% of the anti-Linux shilling here is lies. As long as you stay away from the tinker distros (Arch, etc) and stick with a big mainline one (Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc) it is super stable and even the desktop environment will feel familiar. Every game works, with the notable exception of the kernel level anti-cheat ones. You will never need to touch the terminal (although I 100% guarantee you will find yourself willingly doing it more and more as you become familiar with things).95% of the negative Linux sentiment is just memes about issues from like 15+ years ago.
>>107015473Gaslighting. I'm sure you tell people "It's their fault" when they inevitably run into problems and say "skill issue" then ironically say they "have a low iq". All of which proves the point of linux critics. Many such cases, sad.
>>107015355Windows cucks worship rot and decay because that's all they have left after the humiliation ritual that was Windows 10 and 11
>>107015515You can lie all you want. Although in your case I'm sure the issue is you tried Arch or Gentoo and you fucked it up, and now you're traumatized. The analogy is really simple. If you go for one of the meme distros, it's like building a car yourself. Yes, you get ultimate customization, but you're going to run into plenty of problems. Choosing a mainline distro is buying a Toyota. Just buy the Toyota.
>>107015545I grew up on dos, I am computer competent, not clueless at all. I had ubuntu break on me in various ways of no fault of my own a couple years ago. I see other people go through similar experiences, and they all get treated just as I was. When I rebutted all of the BS gaslighting by the linux community, they simply called me a shill and a liar. You can't win. You're either "Low iq unskilled and it's your fault" or you're a "shill and a liar".
>>107015473>although I 100% guarantee you will find yourself willingly doing it more and more as you become familiar with thingsYou mean, as you discover the point where the devs stopped caring?
>>107011842have you tried ghost spectre
>>107015564Sure, things break. Windows installs get fucked up all the time. But if you're expecting people here, on 4chan, to be anything other than assholes about it, you're the idiot. 4chan is not going to be a useful source of tech support. Do you not see where things are going? As a windows user, you're on the cusp of having an OS where you cannot turn off screen scraping of everything you do. It's maybe 2-3 years away. Microsoft will ban Minecraft accounts, or xbox players for bad language. You think they won't hesitate to obliterate your windows account if some AI running on Azure detects you said faggot on the internet? I will never understand people putting up with utter, nonstop surveillance by fucking foreigners because their desktop experience is 5% smoother.
>>107011842>That's what like 97% of people who actually care about their OS wantif half of those people had been donating $5 per year to ReactOS, they would have it now.
>>107015473>99.9% of the anti-Linux shilling here is lies.said the terminally online linux tranny who pretends that someone will get magic internet aids 10 nano seconds after connecting machine with old windows to the internet, or that piracy doesn't provide better deal than troonix alternatives, or that old versions of proprietary software don't mog modern linux trannyware.
>>107015662I still have an old Windows 7 machine. I'm not afraid at all of muh security issues. But unlike you, I do not let Indians watch and classify everything I do on my computer. I have considerably more respect for myself.
>>107015679I literally use Windows 7, because it still provides better value than troonix. Hell, even XP does. Older versions don't do that because of hardware limitations and enforcement of HTTPS, so linux nowadays is maybe on par with something like Windows 95.
>>107015528Rot and decay that mogs troonix commie slop.
>>107015607I hate microsoft. Windows is the best OS and I think deep down most linux users know it. Windows can be unofficially forked and copied to get away from microsoft. For fucks sake the entire windows xp source code was leaked. And does microsoft even have rights to windows 7 or any OS that is considered abandonware anyway?
>>107015707Well at least you recognize that Windows 11 is to be avoided at all costs. But Windows 7 isn't going to work forever. You already can't run steam. Over time it's going to become less useful for anything but purely local stuff. Hardware could fail. The smart move would actually be to build a new machine and try Linux on it before your current one dies. That what I did (Win 7 -> Mint). It was so good I almost instantly stopped using the Win 7 machine. No exaggeration.
>>107015731>Windows is the best OS and I think deep down most linux users know it.This might (might) have been true when Windows 10 first launched. It absolutely is not the case now, when talking about a modern, desktop oriented distro like Mint.
>>107015623ReactOS top devs won't hire any ex-microsoft employees or anyone who has even peaked at the leaked xp source code. They are treating their OS like it's a little game, a hobby project. This ain't a fucking game, they need to understand that.
>>107014651No, I've been using Enterprise for years and I've never had an update override group policy. The entire point of GPO is that you cannot modify settings changed by it.
>>107015769Yep. I'm on iot enterprise ltsc 2021 version right now and it's literally trapped in the year 2021 AND de-bloated.
After I've learned photoshop doesn't work on Mint, I have literally 0 reasons to move to troonix, why the fuck would I if I can't even do my job
>>107015727No it doesn't. Cope with the fact that you will never be able to use newer hardware and software. Keep telling yourself that your deadshit OS is "better than troonix commie slop" as you are stuck with old shitty hardware that will deteriorate and break soon and software that is stuck and frozen in time without any quality of life improvements. This is what you choose. Dumb nigger
>>107015791As a Linux user, it is always so weird to watch Windows people insist on how awesome their OS is, because they've had to basically trap the thing, lobotomize it and use a dozen separate techniques to attempt to keep it from reverting to it's normal hostile self. How can that be considered good?
>>107015821It weird to you because you don't understand. Windows is not whatever microsoft says it currently is. Windows is an idea, a "file structure" and explorer that is intuitive and has great software compatibility. It's not much different from linux distros, it's just that they all came from microsoft at some point. At it's core, all windows OS's are windows nt/95, it's fundamentally remained the same OS for 30 years now in all of the ways that actually count the most. If someone had the ability to modernize windows 95 so it would run modern software and have modern security windows users would LOVE it. Windows 95 was also able to run on a 16mhz 386sx and 4mb of ram, it is not inherently bloated. Microsoft is just ruining it.
>>107015754>This ain't a fucking game, they need to understand that.They do, that's why they don't want even a ghost of proprietary code in it, else Microsoft brings out the rape lawyers on them.
>>107012641and the games run way better if you just put linux on that thing lol
>>107015853>It weird to you because you don't understand.Oh I understand perfectly. You are using something that is actively dangerous, and wearing a bomb defusing suit in case it surprises you.Now, I get it. You have the right attitude in understanding that modern Windows is terrible in all the known ways. And I even understand resisting and sticking with what you know. But you really need to understand, Linux is legitimately great. If you pick something like Mint it will feel immediately recognizable. The switchover is basically painless. And then you're not stuck just running out the clock trying to stick with old tools.
>>107015818>No it doesn't.Yes it does. Troonix pozzware is hacked together by commie pedos in their spare time. XP era software and older was developed by intelligent white professionals who needed to sell it.>Cope with the fact that you will never be able to use newer hardware and software.New hardware is of literal zero use to me. New software continues to be developed for XP in 2025, particularly for edge cases like browsers where old ones won't do.>Keep telling yourself that your deadshit OS is "better than troonix commie slop" as you are stuck with old shitty hardware that will deteriorate and break soon2 more weeks. Enjoy your superior meltdown/spectre/IME compatibility.>and software that is stuck and frozen in time without any quality of life improvements. What's already been perfected doesn't need improvements.>This is what you choose. Dumb niggerSocialists are less than shitskins. kys
>>107015911Hahahahahahahahaha! What a massive cope. You're an even bigger NEET than a Linux user, and much more delusional too. Faggot
>>107015891Honestly my biggest concern right now settling with linux in the current climate is a massive security risk that is inbound that I want to sit out. If linux gets a big enough influx of new users, it's going to be a target for malware. It has vulnerabilities, there's always vulnerabilities. And unlike windows which has been constantly patching them, linux hasn't had to deal with much of a threat because it had a small userbase of on average more tech literate types. I feel like if linux gains real traction it'll go through events similar to what windows did 30-20 years ago. Those times were rough. I remember getting a fucking rootkit once. I also remember my families home pc getting blaster worm almost instantly, then again after a fresh reformat, so it needed reformatted yet again and patched up completely offline before going online. Malware these days tends to be more insidious than it was back then, thanks in very large part to the fucking jeets which need to be firewalled off of the entire world wide web.
>>107015891>p-please use troonix it's g-good I promise p-plus you can pimp out your desktop and make it girlypop like I did
>>107015930
>>107015942>And unlike windows which has been constantly patching them, linux hasn't had to deal with much of a threat because it had a small userbase of on average more tech literate types.Why in the world would you think this? Linux runs like 90% of all the servers in the world. And they all share the same core libraries, etc as the desktop versions. It gets an enormous amount of security patching and scrutiny. Way more than Windows ever does - we're talking hundreds of thousands of engineers world wide. Check out the Ubuntu security notices page. There's always a steady stream of security updates.
>>107015974Linux for servers is something else entirely compared to Linux as consumer level OS
>>107015974Malware intended for home users is totally different. I'm sitting it out, I see a shitstorm coming.
>>107015945Linux board nigger. Go back to the sharty you Hunky Twink Sex Machine
>>107016031It's not a linux exclusive board. If you want that then demand one.
>>107016013It absolutely is not. What a weird statement. It's the same kernel and libraries almost across the board. The only real differences between a server-oriented distro and a desktop oriented distro is the desktop environment and default installed software. But it's all the same shit otherwise.
>>107016039Says the retarded braindead nigger who thinks that this is a Windows-exclusive board and that everyone else is a tranny just because they don't want to run a dead shit OS on a dusty beige shitbox in a turd world country while larping as aryan
>>107016050There's a little bit of a difference if you're getting your updates from a company like RedHat or some random tranny hosting them on his computer, don't you think?I get that it's a cult and all but it is deeply out of touch to think taking loads from a random tranny is the epitome of safetyt. other
>>107016067Why is linux so popular among trannies though? And why do so many of them troon out if they haven't yet? It is concerning. Troons are by default fucking NUTS. You unironically should be concerned if you have that many troons writing code for your OS.
>>107016072If you're running Ubuntu or Mint, you're getting them from Canonical. If you're running Fedora, you're getting them from servers sponsored by Red Hat (ie, IBM). Nothing random about them.
>>107016099That's my point. A lot of people have way too much confidence in the random people running those unprofessional distros, both in their character and their ability to keep bad actors at bay.
>>107015853yeah things have been bloated for a while ,nothing can justify the same task manager eats 100x ressources on windows 10 than the whole memory of the window95 ,shit sucks.
>>107016178The entire professional world runs on these distros. Millions of servers and desktops all running the same stuff. Do you not have any visibility into how the actual software industry works?
>>107016090If that's your rationale then you are absolutely retarded to prioritize identity politics over everything else. Unfortunately, a lot of nerds are trooning out, and Linux attracts nerds. Old operating systems also attracts nerds so I won't be surprised that trannies will start going into this old OS shit and try developing software for it. Once that happens, you will have absolutely no reason to use deadshit OS, including your retarded politics reason. Stop using shit only for the sake of your ego like a retard
I will use Windows 10 Education Edition until I'm dead
>grug life hard no want change
>>107016215Do you actually have autism? I am not talking about corporate distros at all.
>>107016178Do you know anything about Canonical? It's a $250 million company with over 1000 employees. On the other hand, I see people talking about running "debloating" scripts and .exe files on their Windows installations which actually ARE made by random individuals with no affiliation to Microsoft or any official organization whatsoever. Every Windows tard runs hundreds of sketchy, unverified .exe files over the course of their lifetime. Targeting Linux users through official channels is way harder for some random pajeet to do. Windows users will download some random dev's debloating executable from github, a video game from Itch.io, some mods from Sourceforge, and will run it with full privileges on their computer, and they'll do it all without a second thought. Why would people target Linux users when Windows already makes it so easy?
>>107011853Every administration, army and big corpo around the globe managed to make their own debloated image of Windows, using WDS and MDT. Why could (You) not?I know the bloke who set up the image in question. They are no genius. I can tell you that much.- sent from my government-provided computer
>>107012004decentralized software distribution and updoot culture not being normalized are both much better compared to what's going on in linux
>>107011842Become CEO of Microsoft and do it.
>>107011842The best way to get that is to stop using Windows until they make those changes. In the meantime use Linux.
>>107016281What do you think Ubuntu is? Or Mint? Or CentOS? Or RockyLinux? Or Fedora? All of these are "corporate" Linux in the sense that they get used by corporations. But it's the same shit. There's no magic secret branch of Linux that only corporations have access to. You can even use RedHat if you want (straight from IBM). Fucking Microsoft has their own distro, completely free.
>>107014089>The only case where this happens on Linux is when a trusted package maintainer deliberately decides to go rogue and exploit their own users. Which, while it does sometimes happenHas this hypothetical ever happened even once? xz's developer wasn't a package maintainer so that doesn't count.
>>107015727TSMT. Troonix can't compete.
>>107011842We've now reached a point where tinkering with Linux to get it to do what you want takes less time than tinkering with Windows to get it to stop doing what you don't want it to do.
>>107016618
>>107011842Fucking why? Windows fucking sucks dude. And Linux is way better.Growing up means realizing that windows is a bloated jeeted OS for retards.
Linux will never achieve Windows' peaks, therefore Windows is superior. It's just being held back on purpose.
>>107011842OP, it gets easier. It's weird at first, and it's foreign, but you get used to it over time, It becomes more familiar to you than the former, and eventually you wonder why you were ever so disdainful of Linux to begin with.
Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC + Chris Win Util = Reasonably about 100 processes on startup. Enjoy debloated Windows.
The problem with Linux is that it's infested by troons now. And I honestly think I'd rather have jeets than troons.
>>107015545this, just go for opensuse tumbleweed. you dont need anything else. if you think you do then you have dunning-kruger
>>107011842I understand you. A good old school windows without the Telemetry Cloud Trash, a Return to Tradition, an normal operating system. Microsoft thinks otherwise. They want everything cloud because they believe it is the only way to enforce dependency and forcing people paying for their shit. In my particular case I will stick with Window 10 because the whole network dependency is the first step to make us lost control over our machines. Microsoft choose this shit. I hate them so much.
>>107011842>I don't want Linux. I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat.Then you literally want Linux Mint.
>>107016937Nigger, photoshop doesn't work on linux mint, photoshop
>>107016970You don't need Photoshop, Michelangelo. You're just a guy. GIMP is completely fine. And Adobe stuff is one of the only major missing things.
>>107011842It already exists.https://amelabs.net/
Ive been trying out debian for a few months as an alternative to windows.Its a lot of faffing around to do anything that works automatically on windows. Not sure if its worth the perceived privacy gains
>>107017131Debian is a very barebones distro. It comes recommended on 4chan a lot because of "debloat" autists. While stable, it is quite minimalist. Give Mint a try (it's downstream from Debian. Debian -> Ubuntu -> Mint). It significantly punches up the convenience factor.
Lmao so many deluded lintroons itt
Linux tourists thinking /g/ has always been a linux board will never stop being amusing
>>107016723Fuckin' A.
>>107017419SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>107011842I'm quite surprised to see so many Windows apologists and fans on here.
>>107017614Because you're a dumb zoomer nigger who wasn't born when Windows was good
>this thread10/10 baiting, well done!
>>107017661> There was a time when Windows was good. So even though it is now controlled by subcontinental feces-worshippers we should present our anuses to them to train AI models.
>>107017661I've been using it since 95 and Windows sucked ass until NT was under the hood. XP and 7 were absolute dreams and well everything else about it has been shit.
>>107017720>>107017721No one is actually simping for win11 unironically, what's up with all the shadowboxing
>>107017740>what's up with all the shadowboxingShadowboxing? All I did was come here and make an observation.
>>107016882I want neither, that's why I bought a Mac (the white man's computer).
>>107017826Enjoy having your ass dripping with pozzed cum I guess since you chose the gay distro.
>>107017131Debian is mostly made for autistic people and system administrators. It's my favourite distribution for my wants and autistic needs, but as others have suggested, Linux Mint may be much better suited for people wanting to avoid manually configuring things.>>107016970You might not like the answer, but you should use GIMP regardless of whether or not Adobe products run on GNU+Linux. If you really do have a need to run Photoshop that's not "I'm too scared to learn how to use a new tool", it seems that https://www.winboat.app/ is the easiest solution as of now.>>107017102This is a hopeless endeavour. If you want a free computing experience, you need a free (as in freedom) operating system. GNU+Linux has its foundation built upon user freedom. Windows is built off controlling its users and spitting in their mouths. There are multiple reasons why GNU+Linux powers the vast majority of websites, if not another open source, POSIX operating system.>>107015942Linux absolutely is battle tested, particularly with servers which must be public-facing and open to traffic from anywhere on the internet. The security of Linux is achieved through a very reliable system of software/user permissions. Windows' security against malware "works" by trying to detect when previously-known malware is executed, which is why new malware is so effective against Windows. By default, Bitlocker decrypts the Windows drive without entering any password, so anybody can just use one of the many tools available (https://github.com/search?q=bitlocker&type=repositories) to easily get complete control over your computer (having to click "yes" for administrative permissions isn't real security).>>107012348Debian uses cryptographic signing for packages. It's set up using a web of trust so even if the repository server you're using gets pwned, Debian will reject any malicious packages the server gives you.https://wiki.debian.org/Keysigninghttps://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning/Coordination
>>107012546>anon accidentally discovers iptables and firewalls
>>107015392All of those problems can be solved by just using Linux Mint or something.
>>107017661I remember when Windows was good. Being in middle/high school sure was fun! But then the world changed and moved on and I grew up. That's why I run Linux now.
>>107018247You mean that's why you transitioned, Lilith
>>107011842why do you want windows?no one can help you until you answer that
>>107017826>The white man's computerIn a year you faggots will be celebrating dewalt or whatever the holiday is called.
>>107011842>I want Windows without WindowsImpossible. Also, no dev dream team will be ever able to unfuck Windows, for what we know Windows codebase is extremely fucked and no one working at Microsoft knows it at its enterity. And the push for Copilot is an actual mandate, is Microsoft ever wants to unfuck Windows for whatever reason their best option is buying Canonical and rebrand Ubuntu or at least make brother OS to Ubuntu with even more propietary shit and a way to make Office exclusive
>>1070182530.1 rupees have been deposited into your Microsoft account. Happy shilling saar!
why hasn't someone made a DE that just directly apes every single thing off windows 7/10when people cry about linux it's always the DE, you could give them a windows 7/10 looking theme and they'd do fine
>>107018044>By default, Bitlocker decrypts the Windows drive without entering any passwordHow is this even possible, if the drive is actually encrypted? God I'm glad I switched to Linux 6+ years ago, when Microsoft first forced us to switch away from Windows 7 to something much, much worse (Windows 10).Every installation of Linux gives you the option to use LUKS full disk encryption to protect your data.It adds one more step to logging in to your computer, but in return, you get encryption that actually works. None of this fake, gay "bitlocker" shit which was always a complete backdoored fed honeypot from the beginning.
>>107018310CinnamonXFCE with just one panelLXQT Mate with just one panelKDE with some minor config changesHell, a heavily customized GnomeOnly vanilla Gnome and WMs don't look like Windows ootb or with some minor configuration changes
>>107012004>shilling walled gardensWhy are linux users such NPCs?
as it stands literally the only relevant flaw of linux is missing some proprietary shit and that's not even close to the effort valve underwent with proton, they're just doing it because they're lazy kikesall the windows tinkershit is on linux already so that's power users taken care offor the tech illterate normalfags linux is genuinely safer because bazaar is more reliable than downloading random shit off the internetthe only area where one would be dissatisfied with the linux experience is on that mid tier where they're not completely scared of tinkering but still appreciate the safety of guissomeone should just go through windows, scrape every single gui option windows has and add it to linuxslap that on an immutable distro, adjust defaults and permissions to be less restrictive and you've basically recreated the bipolar selfishly protective but otherwise willing to let you fuck up your user experience nature of windows
>>107011842Windows 11 IoT LTSCI don’t know why /g/ doesn’t shill this more. Actually I know why, they don’t do any real work with their computers.
>>107018453because being slow boiled by microshit isn't a long term solution
>>107018485Neither is spending hours tinkertrooning just to end up with a worse experience on troonix.Music players still don’t have EQ options and there is not competitor to Paint.NET. I’ve TRANSitioned to using mpv though.
>>107018429>as it stands literally the only relevant flaw of linux is missing some proprietary shitThat's a massive understatement desu. If someone needs AutoCAD/Solidworks/Adobe/[insert software here] for their job, they're never going to switch to linux. Businesses would much rather stick with what works than waste precious manhours retraining their staff.
>>107018514>troonix
>>107011842Ha ha! Retard!
>>107018528the point is that porting that would be way less complex than what linux has already achieved in those past few yearsthe software you mentioned is getting increasingly more bruteforceable through wineultimately native support will come through the chain reaction from valve releasing normie boxes with linux and those big corpos no longer being able to ignore it
>>107018528>for their jobYeah so you'd just have this crap on just strictly your work computer and nothing else. Hardly matters.
>>107018603just quarantine w11 to its own lonely sata ssd where it can't do any damage and boot into it when you actually need it
>>107018533>no rebuttal
>>107018584>wineIt's an absolute non-starter. If something happens and the company needs to call support, the first thing they're going to get asked is why the fuck were they running the software non-natively.>ultimately native support will come through the chain reaction from valve releasing normie boxes with Linux and those big corpos no longer being able to ignore itOther way around. Windows didn't become dominant because of normie boxes, it became dominant because every single business demanded you work with MS Office. If normie devices mattered, every company in the world would've been running Android by now.
>Linux Mint is a very good Windows 7 replacement>mfw
>>107011842Linux Mint. It's basically the "Windows refugee" OS. If you absolutely need Windows, do a dual boot on separate drives.
>>107018741Realistically why would I use Linux if I have Windows installed on another drive anyway
>>107018759Do the shit you need for your job in Windows, literally everything else in your Linux distro. Basically keep your Windows usage at minimum
>>107018862Exactly, a quarantined box for what's absolutely necessary. And for most people, they won't need Windows, it's only for stuff that is stubbornly on Windows, like Adobe products, Kernel Anticheat, or some sort of proprietary work program.
>>107018994Basically, have a Windows computer for corporative/job stuff exactly like Microsoft wants, and a personal computer with Linux (or even a fucking Mac) for everything else.
>>107018759When I initially installed Linux, I kept a spare drive with Windows installed because I thought I'd need it. In practice, I've never once booted that drive, and never even felt the urge. I'm way, way happier with Linux than I was with Windows since probably the Win7 days, maybe even XP (which I had some good times on).
Windows 10 was already horrible.
>>107011842talon
>>107018236>No, they can't. Stop lying, tranny.
>>107011842Wow didn't ask about your inability to adapt buckaroo.
>>107011842https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef9QnZVpVd8
>>107019747Associating freedom and userfriendlyness with the faggots who destroyed free speech has to be one of the gayest gayops of our era, fuck off back to eglin you hobgoblin
>>107018310i'll die on the hill that gnome with dash-to-panel and desktop icons extensions installed is pretty much windows 10i don't even fuck with any of the dash-to-panel settings, it looks like the win10 taskbar
>>107011842>I just want Windows without telemetry and bloat.And you're never going to get that.
