>dude Tailscale is like, what the internet was supposed to be>connect to your self-hosted spotify clone and shake out the last bit of dependence from big tech, just sign up for a Tailscale account for SSO, that's all you have to do. No you can't use e-mail, you have to use a third-party account like a Google or Microsoft account.Is self-hosting Headscale feasible?
>>107012736you need like a 1$€ VPS with a public ip. It's just a stun/tun server for wireguard.
>>107012736Is this true? Everyone who's bragging about having a home server and tailscale is actually dependent on google and microsoft?
I don't care about this because I am not a pedophile
>>107012855Yes. Tailscale is the ultimate grift for homelab boomers.They re-sell wireguard to people and require you to authenticate with big tech to do it.
>>107012736Yes but at that point you can just use wireguard directly >>107012855Yes if you wanna access your stuff remote
>>107012736just use headscale and leech off of tailscale's public DERP network. no accounts necessary.>>107012936the real benefit is that it eases NAT issues and such.
>>107012936Where "re-sell" means "give away for free"
>>107012736Headscale works fine. You can even set it up with your own self-hosted SSO provider if you want, but I don't bother since I only use tailscale for myself with a few devices.
>>107012855I mean cuckflare has a pretty decent zero-trust and it's free if ur afraid of microsoft and google
>>107013847I don't see cloudflare and I'm not sure what zero trust means in this context
>>107013888cloudflare has an entirely separate software that does similar things to tailscale.
>>107012736>live happily using openvpn on edge routers and ssh on boxes i need it on>open /g/homelab>immediately close it againwhy do they make everything so complicated
>>107013932That seems like even more of a botnet. You should be afraid of cloudflare.
>>107013932Is it a thing you can self-host completely or are you still dependent on them?
>>107014059>>107014120entirely dependent on them, and that's why i don't use it. i use headscale.
>>107012755i have the money, i just don't have the means for transferring it, literally been cc and debit free for the past 5 years, how do i proceed anon?for now tailscale(or cuckflare tunnel) is my only viable solution.
>>107015488How do you pay for your internet?
>>107012855for auth, yes, you can even argue that it's meaningless because the server us closed source and we don't know what tailscale server exposed to those service>>107012897how about you kill yourself faggot?>>107012936what choice do i have? i'm this anon >>107015503>>107015488cash, my internet is ran by electricity company, so i can just go to their office and say "i would like to pat for my internet bills", they also sends me an email with details on how i can pay it using virtual account on some random shops.
>>107012736I have the same complaint, but in practice you just use email to sign up for github then auth with github. I know it's not ideal.>>107015548>because the server us closed source and we don't know what tailscale server exposed to those serviceThis doesn't matter when you use Tailscale lock. The clients won't connect to other clients that don't have the cryptographic proof.
>>107015548is this what it's like to be poor?
>>107012736>TailscalePropriety glowware.
>>107015739client is open source, headscale server is available as a drop-in for the server, uses wireguard. where's the glow?
>>107015658that's nowhere relevant to my point, login is only available through some globohomo jeet kike invested megacorp oauth, the server is closed sourced, what prevents them to forward our non-encrypted data and mandatory access log generated when their server literally act as a bridge for our devices to those company for monetary gains?
>>107015837>to forward our non-encrypted data and mandatory access logThere is no non-encrypted data, it's all in the wireguard tunnel. The metadata they would be able to collect wouldn't be worth very much.
>>107015837/pol/ brainrot
Tailscale just works, so I'll keep using it. Simple as.
>>107016038This lmao. I want less shit in my homelab to manage, a docker image is always going to be something the fucks up and breaks after every couple updates.
>>107012855You gonna be dependent on something if don't have a static ip yourself.
>>107015488weak excuse anon, my VPS allows 6month pagments via paypal (and paypal supports my bank account)
>>107012855>bragging about being to retarded to port forward and resorting to tailscalelollmao even
