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Why did AI lose?
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>You know how the entire economy is a bunch of B2B teetering on the tiny chunk of companies still making stuff for consumers? Well we're going to add more garbage to the B2B part.
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>>107017232
Investors are too desperate for more hypergrowth markets.
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>>107017232
My current job contract ends 1 jan, so please pop the bubble next year
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>>107017487
what we really need is a large and sustained contraction in the money supply
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After AI can we kill all the data and analytics bullshit?
>Hey our product sucks dick
>We should make a product that doesn't suck dick inste—
>Nah fuck that, let's create an entire economy and industry around only fucking the exact point where our product sucks dick the most, then barely adjust that in order to offset the cost of everyone we just hired in analytics. They are really cheap and they want to do the hiring too.
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>>107017232
Will they sell the hardware used?
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>>107017637
Unfortunately I think that shit is here to stay. There are entire degree programs and fields of research for this shit now.
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>>107017232
AI is only good in certain situations, not to the extremes and diversities of that the companies are going to to get people to adopt this stuff.

Also, I think some anons pointed out that the AI development industry is one massive circlejerk between all the competitors and GPU makers. I would not know how bad of a sign that is, if true.
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>>107017696
It means most of the money these companies claim to be making and receiving in investments is fake. Eventually investors will realize that, and correct their valuations of these companies, which will send stock prices tumbling and likely lead to investors becoming less interested in AI.
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>>107017696
Basically over half of it's spending/revenue at this point is some large valued company (usually Nvidia), giving money to AI companies so they can then turn around and buy shit from the company giving them money.
In the end nothing was produced outside of a toy for thirdies, and yet GDP and share prices go up.
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>global economies
Thanksfully the retard is forcing a decoupling with cope tariffs and sanctions.
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>>107017232
>two more weeks and ai will disappear!
>t. artranny/codetroon
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>>107017232
keep coping, meatbag
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> ^ talmudic posting like that
Not going so well I guess
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>>107017232
AI bubble is Chinese propaganda to destabilise the US AI economy while theirs has full government backing
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>>107017637
Financialization of the economy is why I don't judge cultures like Easter Island too harshly for getting into weird manias that were detrimental to their overall health.
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>>107017232
Because it's going to quickly saturate as every B2B scrambles to implement some sort of "AI" into their products. The only purpose of this in most cases is to chase the AI trend and entice investors. Investors are some of the dumbest fucking people to ever exist btw, apart from a few outliers that do their due diligence (maybe 5% of them).
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>>107017232
Being able to generate pictures, videos and written smut without commisioning a meatbag is a unprecedented use case
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>>107017665
As a shareholder I feel entitled to an RTX PRO 6000 when they become worthless.
But knowing Nvidia they will probably have them all shredded to avoid spoiling the gaming card market.
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>>107017232
When most of the GDP growth this year is just circlejerking between AI and AI-adjacent companies, you just know it's not going to end well.
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>>107017622
very antisemitic post
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>>107017232
These investor trends always shift and only last 3 or 4 years.

2010-2014: Smartphone apps
2014-2017: SaaS, FinTech, APIs
2016-2019: VR, the Metaverse
2017-2021: CleanTech, carbon offsets, "sustainability"
2018-2022: Web 3.0., Crypto, Blockchain, NFTs
2022-2025: AI (more like LLMs)

Pretty much any company only now attempting to implement AI in their SaaS company is running way behind the real money, which clearly got given to OpenAI, Anthropic, xAI and Google.

Tech investors are complete sheep, and so are the founders. It's an incredibly normie-fied industry, even though entrepreneurs are supposed to be disagreeable free thinkers that can't work in a corporate job, but they're actually just normal people with rich parents.

We're basically ready for the next trend cycle, which will either be AGI or something left-field.
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>>107017232
It was all the big players shuffling the same billions of dollars around to one another.
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>>107018122
>Tech investors are complete sheep
Probably the truest statement posted on /g/ all year.
>AGI
I really hope not.
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>>107017857
those guys had the population crash because conquistadors sent them to silver mines, the moai heads wheren't a problem for them. Weird self destructive manias are more of a late chinese dynasty thing.
>>107017696
Those bigfoot ai videos are really the best thing we got from this tech, a cheepining to animation and the death of needless busy work papers/positions are the only legacy this line of tech will produce.
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>>107017232
>US and global
Just say global.
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>>107017637
>lets make dashboards! for management!
>what data points should we show?
>crickets
Meanwhile, people can't run basic bitch BI reporting to do their jobs (like take inventory) because of all the NoSQL shit and siloling the warehouse data from the inventory data from the product catalog.
The 2010s fucked everything so badly it's insane.
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>>107018057
Jensen needs to be put down
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>>107017232
the dot com bubble popped and the internet didn't "lose", investors did
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>>107018122
agreed except green energy is a real megatrend that will only grow in importance
maybe not in America but who cares
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>>107017232
Money doesn't just vanish into thin air, it has to go somewhere.
The powers will not let AI crash until there's a next big thing to dump all that money into. Although the precious metals market is indicating that people are cashing out somewhat.
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>>107017232
>Why did AI lose?
*will. It's nowhere near losing yet.
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>>107019089
>Money doesn't just vanish into thin air, it has to go somewhere
it's not vanishing, it's JUST wandering aimlessly around in circles, making all these producers of hot air and bullshit look actually valuable.
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The tech bubble itself hasn't even collapsed. The tech bubble will not collapse until Snapchat collapses. They are the shining example of the bubble. They still don't make any money, they haven't had a profitable year, they just exist because of speculation. Google was unprofitable from 1998-2003 so investors think fundamentals never matter for anything ever and 15 years is a normal time to continue waiting for profitability.
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>>107019089
Money vanishes when they realize there's no more suckers paying trilions for shares that have been handed off and passed around like a freshman slut
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>>107017843
This is correct
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>>107017696
Just realize that NVDA was so afraid of the crypto bubble bursting that they invented a completely new bubble, just to make it so gamers can't afford GPUs.
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>>107019145
watch the antisemitism bud
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>>107017843
AI economy
Ahh yes the cow dung eating economy.
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>Bitcoin was a nothing burger
>Web3.0 was a nothing burger
>Metaverse was a nothing burger
Why does Silicon Valley keep burning billions each year with scams and pump and dump schemes? Who does this benefit?
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>>107017696
>NVidia gives open AI a billion dollars
>OpenAI turns around and buys a billion dollars worth of GPUs from NVidia
>NVidia provided a billion dollars worth of goods for free, effectively
How aren't they losing money? And if you pay attention to the headlines NVidia is giving those companies more money than they're then expending into GPUs
I feel like they're pumping the bubble to keep GPU prices from crashing after crypto failed to deliver
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>>107021168
To be fair they sell GPUs at such a mark-up that if you told me a billion dollars worth of GPUs costed less than ten million to produce I would believe you
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>>107018122
these were all the same companies too so their stocks kept getting more inflated and none of the previous bubbles popped, we just forgot and moved on
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>>107021152
>Who does this benefit?
You know (((who)))
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>>107021152
the US likes to print and borrow a lot (from themselves) which has caused runaway asset inflation, which is even more insidious than regular inflation in many ways. one of the effects is that now asset owners have to compete to beat S&P500 to stay rich, instead of just the "regular" nominal 2% inflation which is a fairy tale number at this point.

anyway, when the S&P500 randomly grows 30% in a year despite all the growing companies just paying each other with IOUs and doing stock buybacks and shit, and the economy having become irrefutably fake and gay, you have to make increasingly crazy bets to try to beat that or you become poorer. even the regular consuming is made retarded by these antics. whenever you buy something like a car or a vacuum cleaner or whatever, and you don't instead put that money into some asset that just naturally appreciates for no real reason like gold, then you are losing a fuckton of money whenever you actually buy anything. all anyone is incentivized to do is be born early enough to put money into assets and sit their fat asses on them, which isnt a good foundation for an economy
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>>107018057
The ones that have been actually sold to third parties will probably be resold though
There's a chance AliExpress will be flooded with frankenstein gaming cards built with AI GPUs in the not so distant future
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>>107017232
AI is winning. Has been winning since its inception in the 50'. And will continue to win regardless of the economy state, or of the success of ML & LLMs.
LLM are good enough at what they were supposed to do.
The attempts made at using it as an universal answer to all AI-related problem are laughable, though.

Hence, your question is retarded, and you should kill yourself, OP.
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>>107017718
if you're ahead of investors you should be rich then
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>>107017637
big data is just the new consultants, weaponized mediocrity
AI is just a minimum common denominator generator, so if you are below the average it's god
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>>107019174
snapchat has been profitable in past quarters, its cash flow neutral now pretty much
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>>107017232
AI won. The world government has their AI surveillance datacenters and infrastructure now.
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>>107017622
up first: social services



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