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>>107018252Get FUCKED rainy75 haters Rainy75 will be the queen of recommendation boards until nuphy beats them mid 2026
>>107018287based R75 enjoyerit's leaps above Monsgeek and the like and is easily available everywhere
Next Geon is a 65% trannyboard with endless case weights
Beneath the brass cover weight, it looks like he's gonna add more copper weights. Fucking lol
what if I don't want to press my keys so far down
>>107018770Get 100g linears
>>107018770foam bloat + PP plate + extra lubed POM low weight linears
nth for lots of sublegends
>>107018287i thought nuphy was nothing but a set of keycaps + big ass ad spend
>>107019657Nuphys keyboards go through alot of revisions that actually improve the board. It's not something you see very often at a scale like that. The air v4 might be the best recommended low profile keyboard of 2026, finally something that's good enough to replace my low-profile workhorse logitech g915 tlk LIGHTSPEED
>>107018287Rainy75 sucks, fuck you
>>107019786Give your budget keyboard recommendation then smart guy, let me get a good ROFL at what you think is better than a rainy75
>>107019797Most plastic boards at that price point
>>107019657No smoke without fire, yo.
>>107019831that guy said it doesn't resonate like his other boards did?
>>107019847no shit, it's full of foam
>>107019797Actually there might be a non-shit variant of the Rainy75: MechanicalKeyboards.com has a version (which they claim is exclusive to them) with a non-flex-cut PCB:https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/products/mk-x-wobkey-rainy-75-pro-aluminum-75-hotswap-wireless-a-rgb-non-flex-cut-keyboardI'd like to hear a sound test of that one specifically, but it's safe to assume that would go some way to fixing some of the Rainy75's problems.
>>107019831Heh. Sorry that just outs you as delusional as there are 1000s of plastic boards in that price point that no one in their right mind would consider better than a rainy.
>>107020075Mode Envoy says hi.
>>107020075It's hard to imagine a more grating obnoxious keyboard sound than a Rainy75's but I welcome you to show me an example of a plastic board that sounds worse
>>107020081No i asked you to show me a board first, I'm not playing this game
>>107020090If you spend just a little more you can get stuff like a Cannonkeys Photon or a Bauer Lite or a Classic-TKL. The options get so much better when you spend just a little more that I don't know why anyone wouldn't.For the same price, if one really can't spend a penny more, you could get a Filco or a Leopold or a Keychron. All of those will sound better.
This game is always won by (You)
>>107020110
>>107020223This is a male image board. We don't try to win arguments with reaction gifs.
Hows the EVO75? Anything better in that pricerange?Looking to upgrade from my ducky.
Where to get good interconnect right angle usb C to usb C cables for split keyboards? 20pny
>>107018252So I want a cheap hotswappable 100% barebones. I'm looking at Redragon K580 for $55 then just replacing all the switches. Are there any cheap 100% barebones, I don't mind buying switches and key caps.
>>107018611>>107018622sure, laugh it up, you'll be slurping it up as soon as it drops and all your reddit buddies get onefucking consoomer hypocrite scum
>>107021081Have a look at the Hexgears GK705, the keycaps are shit but it comes with kailh box switches.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32952663095.html
I just bought the Keychron Q5 HE 96% keyboard.How bad did I do?
>>107021549you bought the boring, mid tier chinkshit gateway brand to custom boards but with added meme switches
>>107021549Why not k10 he?It's much cheaper and it doesn't look like shit
I'm looking to buy a linear switch, are gateron smoothies a good choice?
>>107020245The anon was signifying they had no response and were nervous, you autistic fuck.
>>107020395It's honestly pretty godlike. I've only ever used a handful of boards that sound and feel better to type on. Easily the best non-custom board.
>>107018611>Not doing another run of the W1-ATfuck geon
>>107022950>545
u guys are very mean and not helpful at all
>>107022988If you are the linear switch guy, it's because all linears feel basically the same, it comes to which sound profile or quality to you looking for. Like yeah gateron smoothies are fine switches that might last 4 years, yeah get them
>>107023083thank you. It's my first time trying out a linear switch and the research is a nightmare. Shootmycock balltorture switches, balltorture (and also cock) pro switches, balltorture pro v2 milky switches. I feel like you just have to buy one and go from there.
>>107020395S tier, baby.
>>107023132Yeah that's what I did. I got a bunch of linears, I put them on a spare plate with keycaps and I went boop-boop-boop with my forefinger across them. In a few minutes I had a good idea of the physical qualities of each switch like the downstroke sensation and upstroke, or how it sounds. After that, it was easy as piss to decide upon my favourites. With websites like Milktooth, you can't go wrong buying small packs of switches for cheap for trying this out.
>>107022811Sea salt smoothies are even better, at least to my fingers. I also love the BSUN Raw, SWK Ghost Dragons, Kailh BCP, HMX Kanglan V3 and Xinhai Heavy along with FJ400. Honestly though, there's no need to experiment with endless switches if you don't want to dig deep. Smoothies or Sea Salt alone will make you real happy if you like light linears.
>>107021146You couldn't be more wrong. I am going my own way and I am sure I will make a fool of myself here when I post my pics, but I am modding the fuck out of my Transition Lite so it can larp as these metal-weighed badass keyboards. The stock flex-cut PCB was so bad, I need to do something serious about this because the PC top and bottom of the physical keyboard are really sexy. It has potential without descending to foamshit flexshit.
>>107023132for me it's the dickraper v666 with articulated tescitle torsion. But yeah, you basically need to test out a bunch of switches to find the ones you like, no shortcuts! especially with switches as ambiguous as linears.
>>107023245i ordered the smoothies for now. They seem a little wobbly from a video i watched but fuck it, don't feel like doing any more research. Will keep the ones you listed in mind for the future.
>>107022811>>107023506The only non-silent switches I still use are HMX RBO switches like the Snow Crash. Don't know how consistent they've remained throughout different batches, mine are from early ones, but they're basically perfect.
I like my Silakka but I wish it had a bit more pinky stagger and the thumb keys were a bit more out, just 0.5u or so.I wonder if I should get a Corne. My goal was to build my own keyboard but now I'm busy with other stuff.
>>107022837"Erm, I'm speechless" is Not An Argument.
>>107019592I wish more splits had larger keys on the outer column.
>>107023132>It's my first time trying out a linear switch and the research is a nightmareI'd go for Gateron X, which is basically the 'premium' ultra-smooth version of a basic milk-top Gateron.
>>107023132>It's my first time trying out a linear switch and the research is a nightmareDid you read my switch guide in the OP? It was supposed to help newcomers clarify their thinking about switches. Whether it actually does, I don't know.
>>107023966those are shit though
>>107024057They are absolutely not shit
>>107024151standard gateron with some marketing gimmick that brings them to the level of smoothness of the average meme switch, but also makes them more expensive and doesn't fix any of the other issues gaterons have
>>107023918No shit, the tranny was conceding the point.
>>107024340That's not how I read it. I could have sworn he was "wow, I can't even"-ing.
>>107023994oh i'm retarded, i thought it was cherry branded switches only. good guide.
Is it possible to buy or build a Model M lookalike with a similar chassis, similar keycaps, but with modern features such as VIA programmability and volume/media controls for $100 or less?
>>107024340You seem to know an awful lot about this "tranny" anon.
>>107024619>i thought it was cherry branded switches onlyNow I need to think about how I can remedy this. Hm. I don't want this to be a stumbling-block to others lol
Is there a 100% version of a keyboard like the Cherry G84-1000 Compact?
>>107025175Cherry 1800 ?
>>107025220>ISO layout>that much wasted space separating the function row>misaligned arrow keys generational fumble
>>107025126I think if it said something like "Cherry MX TYPE switches" in the OP i would have understood what was meant.
I like my Kailh box whites.
>>107025234Yea I prefer IBM 8835 but have yet to find similar mechanical board
>>107025238I agree, I also thought it just meant Cherry the brand but "style" would be clear to me.Personally I just call non Cherries just mx or mx style, but cherry mx style is fine.
Why did a whole bunch of the aliexpress listings for switches and keycaps I was looking at just shoot up in price after the weekend anywhere from 5x to 10%Did I fuck up by hesitating all these weeks to buy something
>>107024699$100 or less? No. Double that and you get the Unicomp New Model M.
>>10702533211.11 soon, have to raise price to lower price
>>107025343I don't need buckling springs, I just want a visual and surface level resemblance but otherwise uses bog standard switches and guts..
>>107025262>>107025238Ok I will do something similar to this.
>>107025388What happens on 11.11... besides independence day?
>>107025704chinese "black friday"
Why is it so stupidly hard to obtain normal off-white keycaps with proper legible lettering and a proper font these days when these used to be everywhere? I check on aliexpress or wherever and it's all stupid gamer crap. I just want a normal full set that can be used on MX switches, regardless if it's double shot ABS or PBT with a nice and grainy texture (would appreciate with finding inexpensive options for both).
>>107025722When you say off-white, do you mean more of an L9 or a WS1?
>>107025722I might have found one that fits your exact needs. Do you consider Comic Sans a proper font?
>>107025863
>>107025895Its.... beautiful...
>>107025722I like the "mac-style" lettering some chinese manufacturers do.
>>107026009They also have it in L9 and in classic beige:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005009217096649.htmlXMI's dye sub caps are a bit more expensive than your typical Aliexpress pbt dye sub but they do a very good job so imo it's worth the premium. picrel is my XMI set>>107026035XMI does a couple of Apple-based styles ("Apple" and biip's "2048") in both L9 and WS1. Picrel is L9 Apple
>>107026079(I have since removed the upper-left novelty and replaced it with tilde/backtick... I always get tired of accents and novelties within the first couple weeks of use)
>>107025863>>107025895YOU MUST DIE
>>107025829Anything that is either white, beige, silver, grey, or a mix of them, with a respectable typeface on it like Arial or whatever. I see them indirectly a few times on the strangest listings but they're never the main feature.>>107026079And then there's these things which use italics for some fucking reason.
>>107026134Something like this?https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006923687564.html?Don't know if the dye sub bleed is as bad as in the pics, none of the Shenpo sets I've bought have been that bad. If it is that's unfortunate.
>>107026174That and this looks to be almost perfect.aliexpress.com/item/1005009723145515.htmlThe only funny part is that it costs 50% more than an off the shelf full-size keyboard that already has double shot PBT keycaps over here, albeit shine through and in black. So that's funny.
I ordered a moonlander
>>107025332For some fucking reason if I open the listing in incognito mode using a chrome browser, it gives me a bigger discount. Coincidence? I think not.
I have a dream
>>107026195Shenpo uses nicely uniform thick caps that aren't warped (in my experience), their kitting is reasonably full with all the options you'd need for other board layouts like 65%, alice, HHKB, etc. So they ask for a little more money. Similar to XMI, JC Studio, etc.Picrel is a shenpo set I used to own (gave it to someone)Swagkeys beige will be a little closer to the GMK sort of sound, being thinner and made from abs/pbt mix that shines. This is arguably a nicer sound, depending on the board. Thicker past a certain point has downsides. Subjectively, ofc. I've seen their beige cheaper from other vendors, but maybe not in Europe.Both I think are good keycap sets.
>>107026272Realized you can't really tell from this photo but the legends are not blurry at all, it's just a blurry photo. I compared these to my Hammerworks CRP, a considerably more expensive beige set, and the Shenpo legends were noticeably sharper. The CRP were overall the better set I think but Shenpo won on legend sharpness.
Is rainy just a keyboard for gay people?
>>107026430Not gays, just Asians
got $50 off any keyboard on drop through their halloween wheel shit. is anything on their site worth it or nah. might just let it go.
>>107026272>picMinus the backslash and tilda key not being grey, it looks perfect.
>>107026134That KeeBox store on AliExpress that the other anon linked has several listings for instock XMI keycaps, all with different color selections and variants in them. Just go to their store page and check those out.
is this hotswappable or memeswappable?
>>107026609Well, nothing good, ended up with this cheap shit as a backup for $5.
This cost me $333:- Lemokey L3- 100ct Keychron Silent Switches- Cyber Developer Keycap setI don't know how you retards do this. I just wanted a new keyboard that had a volume knob, had no plastic garbage, had standard key spacings, and was tenkeyless.
>>107026245I don't think this works without the chassis old beige keyboards used to have.
>>107026272>Swagkeys beige will be a little closer to the GMK sort of soundForget the sound, I just want something that's going to be as durable as possible. Whether that's the legends fading or the keycaps shining.
>>107027001Dye-sub pbt's the way to go, then.
I hate flat keyboards with a passion
>>107027310I have just the board for you then.
>>107026609The deeply discounted MT3 abs sets are good
>>107026245Keep in mind Corsair has a kind of insane bottom row with a very non-standard spacebar making it nearly impossible to find keycaps for it
>>107027667Not just that, but also a 1u windows key I thinkI have found 2 listings on ali supposedly, one of them a 6.5u blank beige bar
>>107027730Beige is not as standardized as you might think, so be aware it might not match some particular set you buy it for.
>>107027343What keycap profile is this? Looks similar to TEX ADA but flatter?
>>107027310Me too but they are the best keyboard type for your lap and cellphone, can't wait for something to finally replace this piece of shit.If your finger isn't perfectly on the center of each key the key goes completely vertical
>>1070277301u win keys are pretty standard, every decent key set includes them
>>107027880Looks like DSA
>>107027880Yea like the other anon said it's just DSA.
>>107027992>>107027923Thanks, I'm a newfag to mechanical keyboards despite using one for years, replaced stock TEX ADA caps with XDA recently but don't like larger surface area and sharper edges.Might try DSA next.
Decisions decisions as to what to apply my newcomer $5 (22 PLN) discount on Ali for...
Topre bros.... we went too far
>>107028067Don't get those Outemus. Those are generally bad switches, the silents especially. These should be good: aliexpress.com/item/1005009948856370.html
>>107026272>Shenpo uses nicely uniform thick capsThese look really affordable in particular. I might consider this listing if it wasn't for the absent Windows key (at least if it's for a 1u windows key). For $38 this still looks like stupidly good value if it's indeed 143 keys for that price nonetheless.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004124258598.html
>>107028127There's also this set by another seller charging slightly more for a more white and grey look. Both of these are indeed dye-sub. aliexpress.com/item/1005004337557412.html
>>107028106>Those are generally bad switchesIs that so? I've been thinking about replacing the decade old Cherry MX Red's on this keyboard (if I don't just lube them in the end and call it a day) with some silent switches since in tests I saw on YT they seemed to be the quietest and cheapest switches you could buy.
>>107027738>so be aware it might not match some particular set you buy it forWell, worst case scenario I'll just have to spend $5 on a single 6.5U spacebar. Or $10 for two. Christ, this shit adds up fast when you're buying parts yourself.
>>107028127Oh shit, I didn't know Keebox didn't have them anymore. That is a different set with different legends. Maybe similar in some ways, but clearly not meant to be the same set (icon legends vs text legends on the mods).This was the listing I bought from, way back when. Looks like they're gone.https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004418134224.htmlThey do have XMI's regular icon sets in this listing, which at least have winkey:https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007329257033.htmlAnd this listing for Shenpo Red Russian has an ANSI (non-Russian) option in the listing which seems to maybe be the regular classic beige (?)https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003565067145.html
>>107028127same shit by XMI, with better kitting (the "classic icon" option, or "icon WS1" for a white set):aliexpress.com/item/1005007329257033.html>>107028193could just be lighting differences
>>107028228They're quiet and cheap, but feel pretty terrible to type on. Those Lucys aren't that expensive either, and if WEKT is anything like old Lichicx, they'll be way better and just as quiet. Trust me, I've tried both.
>>107028281The best switch I have are some Gateron G Pro Red 3.0's, I'm about in the lower to mid-100's as far as typing speed goes with either those or the old scratchy Cherry Reds. Surely they can't be that bad even compared to linear Cherry's and their clones as far as typing goes?
>>107028250>could just be lighting differencesI am fairly certain those ones are a more bluer, greyer tone than those more beige grey and beige white keycaps. Whether they would clash with my predominantly white room (admittedly I do have a beige and yellowing out front on a CRT monitor on my shelf gathering dust) is another question, especially if I decide to repaint my existing gear. The set also appears to have different keys included if the pictures are accurate.
>>107028250>could just be lighting differencesI found a similar looking set with Russian legends and it may have pretty white keycaps though rather dark gray beige keycaps by contrast.aliexpress.com/item/1005003565067145.html
>>107028294Not him but I've bought Outemu Silents and I hated them. Felt mushy. You don't think you'll miss the feeling of striking the bottom, but then you do miss it.There are silent switches that aren't so mushy at the bottom, they're just a little bit less silent. Lichix, I think some Gaterons (Zero Degree seem like they're probably ok), also heard the Dangkeebs red velvet aren't too bad. I'm sure there are others just don't know them off the top of my head.I've tried a handful of silents and 90% of them were mushy. The only two I tried that weren't were Gateron Ink Black V2 silents and Lichix Raw Silents. The Gaterons were overpriced iirc, and the Lichix were a bit better anyway.
>>107028318Shenpo are on the grayer side (compared to, e.g., CRP.) I'm going to take one of my XMI keycaps and a shenpo cap and put them side by side to see how their different interpretations of "L9" compare. I'll include a CRP as well
>>107028350Despite the noise I do admit, I love the feeling of my keys bottoming out. Though I heard this is just an inevitability of having noise dampening on your switches, whether inside or using O-rings. I hear even the Silent Red feels mushy compared to Red.
>>107028318>>107028345Pretty sure all of those are just L9/U9 in different lighting conditions. The blanks that different dye subbers used can have slightly different tints of beige and grey, but generally they're fairly close and look mostly white/grey in white light, but more yellowish in warmer light. Afaik the only one that has a separate, different shade of beige/grey on offer is XMI, they have nicotine yellow blanks they call retro beige instead of L9/U9.>>107028294If you wanna buy them, just buy them. But they're terrible switches and for not much more money, you can get a lot better. They also more prone to failing.
>>107028399>If you wanna buy them, just buy them. BNah, I've got time to sleep first and think it over with a clear head in the day. I'm in no rush if I plan to use stuff for a decade.
>>107028356The difference between >>107028127>>107028193 price wise is technically not insignificant (around $10 I think) but of greater concern to me is more whether the contrast is sufficient between the black legends and the secondary grey color, which appears really dark in the Russian variant photos.So it's not that beige wouldn't fit in the room, on the contrary I do have curtains, a sofa chair, a roll up blind, oil heater, and a shelf/tube over in the corner and a vinyl floor even amidst rennovation. It's just about getting the contrast right. Picture is taken from my phone with a 1500 lumen 2700K LED lamp behind.
I wanna get a solid cheap keyboard. Are there good value chinese 75% plastic prebuilts that don't suck shit? I already know I'm going to replace the switches to Outemu silent yellow jades.I've been thinkin of getting a Leobog Hi75C and something like KBdiy keycaps to get more value out of buying my own switches and getting something a bit nicer, but idk if this is also a bad idea... any opinions?
Ok here's a pic comparing Shenpo, XMI, Hammerworks, and PBS MV Classic, in that order. Since these are all the beige sets I have on-hand. (I still have the extra keys from the Shenpo that weren't needed with the board)As you can see the Shenpo and XMI are VERY similar, maybe the same blanks. Hammeworks is quite different, thinner and a bit brighter and yellower. Not sure if this was the best lighting to communicate the yellowness difference, but it's night here so I didn't have natural light available
>>107028492damn I never knew CRP legends were that bad
>>107028543Yeah, it's not their strongest feature. They are good in other ways. They have a softer, rounded profile than Shenpo's hard edges, which looks a little nicer to me, and the surface of Shenpo/etc when you look at it in a certain light has almost 'banding' of the surface curvature, which produces an inconsistent light gradient, whereas the CRP is more conspicuously perfect in this regard. All that plus CRP sounds more like GMK.A lot of that is very nitpicky. I think Shenpo are great keycaps.
>>107028462>>107028492https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY1rizl8Cckhere you can also see XMI and Shenpo next to each other, they really are almost identical
>>107028578I've heard it said that they both buy the same blanks, iirc from Gateron, but that's hearsay so take it with a grain of salt.
>>107028492Damn, that Shepno U9 looks kinda nasty for some reason in these photos. I'm still tempted to buy that set nonetheless as a go-to beige and grey everything to use forever.
>>107028471Just buy a rainy75 dude, what are you even doing
>>107028584XMI supposedly switched to a newer generation of blanks a couple of years ago, but it's not like their colors changed or anything so who knows
>>107028587Here's the very same Shenpo set on the keyboard, in natural light. I looked through my old photos and found it.
>>107028640And yes it's dusty, I can't remember when or why I took that photo but it wasn't when the board was brand new lol. I think I'd cleaned the keycaps etc but maybe I didn't so thoroughly clean the case. Window light and black accessories... most unforgiving...
>>107018252Are there any regular keyboards that are zero noise, like picrel (which is for shorthand)
>>107028731Asperger's?
>>107028782No, just for typing passwords (sonic attack mitigation)
>>107028876Silent switches exist, but not fully 0db.
>>107028876This is a lot harder than you think because your cables and wires act like an antenna, anyone within range to hear you can also use a magnetometer to record your keystrokes. You need to TEMPEST harden your cable, case, and MCU.
>>107029155sonic attacks just require "allow application to use microphone", not a guy in a suit in a van.
>>107029481Kek bro your mic can detect emi radiation just as easy as sound but whatever i guess you are just worried about low level hackers. not trying to get glowie proof
>Budget~300US>Location (continent at least)NA>Preferred switch typeTactile or linear. I've heard enough clicking to last a lifetime>LayoutAny layout is fine but I'm used to ANSI>Form factor100%>BacklightNo>Previous/current keyboardsFilco Majestouch Ninja w/ MX bluesI'm looking for a kit that includes everything but keys & caps, or something close to that. If I have to buy a couple things separately that's alright too, but I've barely dipped my toes into keyboard autism and an all-in-one solution seems like less of a headache. QK100 looked pretty decent but I wasn't able to find any in stock w/o bright colors (I don't want anything vibrant,) a black or muted/darkly toned topcase is ideal.
>>107030129Forgot to mention, I'm also open to 80%
>>107030129Zoom98 but the cool colors are probably all sold out too :(
>>107030129Neo80 with the brass and copper bottoms just started recently, it's like 200ish:https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/neo80-cu-custom-mechanical-keyboard
>>107028074Is topre worth the money?
>>107025722They are everywhere dude. Everyone makes black-on-white keycaps. ePBT, GMK, KKB, take your pick.
>>107026035Fucking sexy.
>>107030765topre feels like a blend between a tactile and a linear with a super smooth bump. if that sounds appealing to you and you can get an HHKB used for $150 or less then I'd say yeahotherwise, no, anything not standard mx is just a meme
>>107026035looks similar to that iconic russian jet hud font...
>>107026245>>107026981Are there any cases compatible with the OG K95 Vengeance PCB or would I need to build my own?
how is it that a keyboard is cheaper thana keycap setpaying 30-50 bucks for a buch of plastic pieces is weird when a full keyboard with double shot pbt keycapa and quality linear switches can be hand for that much
>>107031732Economies of scale. Also those 'double shot PBT' caps might be a mix of ABS & PBT rather than pure PBT.
>>107028074Its a good mouse. What I use.
I fuggin hate double shot
Alright, I'm awake. Right now I'm thinking about deciding between the allegedly 150 cap Shepno from the Keebox store listing (aliexpress.com/item/1005003565067145.html), and 143 set (aliexpress.com/item/1005004124258598.html). The difference is about $43 versus $32, I might pay the extra 10 however because it looks like that set *might* have a 6.5u spacebar, but I can't really tell just by looking at it. It would come out the same if I were to buy it separately anyway, I think. Can anyone tell if this set has a 6.5u spacebar in it just by looking at this picture? They seem to have an option between regular ANSI (presumably no Russian legends) and Red Russian legends, so I'm assuming this picture is representative of the whole set. Oh yeah, and I just noticed all of these are Cherry profile as opposed to OEM. So that's going to be new for me.
>>107032193Z
>>107032193what the fuck uses 6.5u? usually spacebar kits are like 7u, 6.25u, 6u, then more rare is like 2.25/2.75 for alice and sometimes 3u or 2u for split
>>107032248>what the fuck uses 6.5u?Cosair, Logitech, Razer, and the other big name consoomer brands use them on their PCB's I think. If you have a 6.25u board though it will still serve.
>>107032248I don't think any of these sets have 6.25u spacebars either based on their descriptions >>107028193>>107028127
a big spacebar, 4u
Best keyboard to let the whole world see that I'm a crossdressing HRT femboy?
>>107032345anything smaller than 96%
Anyone have recommendations for some kind of carrying case?I have a TKL that I want to take around in my bag, some type of EVA hard case or similar
>>107032345Full boards are becoming the new tranny boards
>>107033325Everyone knows 1800 boards have never been called and will never be called tranny boards.
Could I stick wallpaper onto my keyboard chassis as a non-destructive way to change the color if I don't want to permanently repaint it?
>>107033445Nah, it stems from years of trying to program with 60% and figuring out it sucks. They are in rebellion. Also it doesn't help full keyboard trannies are just as vocal as arch Linux trannies. From the sock pics ive seen lately, retro keyboards and Linux is the current transmeta
>>107032193Neither of them will have a 6.5u, I promise. 6.5u is a completely cursed and marginal invention of the geniuses at Corsair and nobody makes them, ever.
>>107032193The spacebars pictured that you're hoping might be 6.5u are 6u, 6.25u, and 7u. These are standard sizes.
>>107032193>no 1u winkey, you get "code" insteadWhat a strange omission. Is it because the windows icon they used was too wide to dye sub on the 1u keys?
>>107031732>when a full keyboard with double shot pbt keycapa and quality linear switches can be hand for that muchBullshit, no it can't. Name one.
>>107030824None of those are gonna be "inexpensive"
>>107034259Mad Dog GK850, GK910
>>107034242Then anon has a choice to make between these two sets, because 7 or 8 of those 150 keys in the Keebox set are spacebars, while the cheaper set does have a 1u windows key included at the very least.
>>107032193that's definitely 7u, 6.25u, 6u and then smaller ones>>107032291these sets >>107028127 >>107028193 have 6.25u and 7u spacebars
I own an original K95, a keyboard with a 6.5u spacebar, am I actually measuring it right or am I being misled to think it is 7u here?Every source tells me it is 6.5u given that the graphic on maxkeyboard.com shows a bottom row identical to mine.
>>107034736If it's 123mm (measured from the bottom) then it is 6.5, easy way to tell.
>>107031064>jet hudYou mean russian national standart (GOST) font for blueprints, engineering, machinery etc?
>>107034984so jet hud
I have taken a better pic of >>107028492 now that the lighting is better
I bought a cheap Ali clone of GMK Metropolis just for the heck of it, and I feel exceptionally grateful for being a GMK (and KKB) glazer. These clones are god-awful.
>>107035735for me, it's XMI dye subs
>>107035735How cheap? I quite like my doubleshot 8008 clones, but to be fair i never have bought high end/"premium" keycaps
>>107035317I love how they feel almost peachy in this lighting. Like sand on a sunny beach.
>>107035868$28 cheap. It looks like crap and it sounds and feels like crap. I couldn't bring myself to try the modifiers on, the alphas were enough to sour me hard. These will make for an excellent gift paired with a basic TKL to a normie in future, so there's that.
>>107035317By the way, you can see visibly in this one the surface unevenness of the Shenpo and XMI caps. It is really not something you notice on the keyboard unless you're really hawk-eyed for this sort of thing, and it's not something you feel—it's very subtle—but look at the CRP: it doesn't have this defect. This is one of the things that really jumps out as 'more high-end' about CRP, and one of the reasons I don't think legends are the only important thing.
>>107036336eh I'd take that over visibly blurry legends and about double the price any day
TIL they use aluminum copper alloy and pass it off as a pure copper keyboard weight.
>>107036988Who does?
>>107036988I'm guessing it's just because it's cheaper than pure copper? Nevermind that using copper for nothing but a paperweight is such a fucking waste of material to be honest.
do people seriously willingly pay for gmk prices? an mtnu set is more expensive than most average keyboards before you start getting into customs. $150 for some pieces of plastic that cost cents to produce is insane
>>107037095Gotta pay for german labor when you buy german products.
>>107037004yeah I wish they'd stop it with the copper/brass bottom pieces, it's kinda dumb
>>107037095>for some pieces of plastic that cost cents to produce is insaneDo you know how much it costs to produce a keycap mould?
>>107037287I like having 5 pounds of copper plates near me, it makes the air smell good
>>107037101German labour is a bit of a gyp, but German design/R+D/QC is worth it
>>107037668the heavier the keyboard, the better it isit's a fact, blacksimon told me so
>>107037404Yeah, I could understand these complaints about price for already existing profiles like Cherry or OEM or even SA, but for MTNU and MT3 the cost is what it is because they're new. Those machines and tooling don't get paid for out of thin air.Especially ABS Cherry profile caps, if you pay any amount over $50-60 you're just helmet wearing levels of retarded, end of story.
>>107037791i have skins in cs2 that cost 20 times gmk keycaps
>>107037841>skins in cs2 when was the last time you checked their prices?
>>107037874they will 100% 3x their value on the 30th
>>107037404that's a one time cost that enables you to produce thousands of setsat the prices they're charging, they'd only need to sell a few dozen sets to make their money back. that's ridiculous
>>107034700I think it might just be better to buy any colored PBT spacebar that's 6.5u, and spray paint that sucker with some primer or enamel, it will be blank anyway
>>107037895Why?
>>107038130I trade futures for a living, so I have a sense for this sort of thing. Besides a general understanding of how markets work....I can feel the absolute rabid thirst coming from the masses for a knife + glove setup. This dip peaked their hunger. Sure cheap knives will probably hit 15. But all the good ones will be bought up by whales and sky rocketed to even new heights. We're going to see 2 billion dollars rush into the steam cap in a single day. Normies will be absolutely washed. (I wish bloomberg terminals weren't litterally the worse keyboards in existance, and break in under 3 months)
>>107037950>that's a one time cost that enables you to produce thousands of setsWhich still take time to produce and require QC, among other things, and it's not that easy to just sell thousands of sets of any particular color.Anyone is free to start their own keycap company and make this shit cheaper. Go ahead. I'd love to pay less money for this stuff. Do it.
>>107037950They have to be made over and over after testing to make sure a consistent product is produced. Each row needs a mold, then each stabilized key needs its own, as do the bigger non-stabilized keys like CTRL, ALT, etc. They also aren't selling hundreds of thousands to millions of each individual keycap set, either. Why do you think pretty much all of the MTNU sets so far have been group buys?
>>107037095Good plastic is worth the GMK tax.
>>107037287I'll take curvy and copper/brass bottom cases over giant slabs of aluminium with more echo inside than the Grand Canyon.
>>107038258whats wrong with bloomberg terminals?
GMK only. It's like Elvira. There's copycats, and then there's the one and only.
>>107038537You can't change a "it costs cents to make"-er's mind. You can't. They will post "it costs cents to make" until they're blue in the face. They never have a good example to hand of what someone could buy for $20 instead of GMK, because there isn't one (unless you count garbage aliexpress knockoffs—lol), but that won't stop them from obsessively griping about how GMK is a ripoff. They believe "starting a manufacturing business" is a special privilege granted, like a state monopoly, only to certain kinds of evil Jews who get to pick all our pockets>>107038585"GMK Only" is too far.
>>107038553their abs keycaps are litterally half a milimeter thick. They shatter if you look at them funny. the butterfly switches they use are more fragile than snowflakes. They are notorious for breaking if a tiny bit of dirt or haiir gets into the butterfly action. all in all the board feels like typing on a flat hunk of abs. There is NO key give. Its like they wanted to copy a mac keyboard but said wouldnt it be AWSOME if we took everything that Magic Keyboard bearable, and took it out?
>>107038639It's a play on plebbitors who spam GEON ONLY even if you post something simple like a plate fork with Geon branding on it. KKB is top tier tier for me as well, their Jindos look exactly like my Verdant Retro (L9/U9 I mean). GMK has the little touches like BRG color lettering and the beautiful Win 3.1 logo. They've earned their spot at the top. Same for ePBT, SW and some randoms. I don't regret buying random Chinese non-clones at all. I got the most excellent shade of brown alphas from the PhotoG set.
>>107038545My Neo65 and 80 sound absolutely fine with none of that, and a lot better than boards with brass internals I've typed on. Some acoustic chamfering would probably be good, but copper and brass bottoms are pretty unnecessary.
SILENT TACTILE CHADS RISE UP
>>107038585How're you liking the S100? I got one of those to give away, but haven't built it yet.
>>107038892that logo is also available on some xmi and shenpo sets btw
>>107032193JC Studio is another alternative to the dye sub sets available on AliExpress, but they're overpriced on there. Here's a US vendor that has some:https://divinikey.com/collections/jc-studio-keycapsand this is a global one that ships out of China. If you but MJ into the discount code field during checkout, you get 10% off:https://unikeyboards.com/en-de/products/jc-studio-pbt-dye-sublimation-keycaps?variant=47662395392318
BTW here's the third S100 I ordered a little while back. This one's ready for BRG and Strawberry Cheesecake R2s. Almost makes up for missing out on the Petrichor and Constance.
>find a board I like more than any other I’ve seen>it was a GB or something from over a year agoI will simply never be able to get this thing, huh? this hobby sucks
>>107039175Which board is it? You can keep an eye on the second hand market, it's mostly done through discord.
>>107038990It is very good. Built like a tank, but they're all built like tanks these days, except this is a full size keyboard so it feels way nicer to hold. It's very versatile, a lot of switches work really well with it, both sound and feel-wise. It has a great selection of plates, and the typing experience is much better when you use it on a thick padded surface (two mousepads stacked together works perfectly well for this). If you want a full size keyboard to tinker with, this is probably the only option right now assuming you can get some extra plates. The build quality and QC are all immaculate, I've had no issues or missing parts across three S100s. Bonus: I am now able to enjoy heavier linears with the stacked mousepads, and I don't get this feeling with TKLs or tranny boards on the same surface, so definitely try this on double stacked deskmats or mousepads to get a better experience.
>>107039183flip 6preally unique and elegant and it wasn’t even that expensive
>>107039175Oh cheer up. Prepare your wallet for the next GB. You will be made whole one day. Which board was it?
>>107039231Oh that's pretty unique. If you're mental, you can get a 60% plate and a 100% plate, cut the numpad section from the latter and put it together in a custom case. Use a 60% pcb and a detachable numpad pcb in tandem inside it, something like that. Never give up on your dreams!
>>107039257nah, at that point i would just make the pcb from scratch and cnc a case
>>107039223It's reassuring that you didn't have any issues with it, cause a number of people did, and I got worried I was going to gift my dad a broken keyboard.
Does anyone make low profile key caps with a little homing nipple
>>107039854You can add ball bearings to most keycaps
>>107038968Foamless builds?
>>107039340Lucky dad! Keep in mind you may need a cable with a longer type-C connector, because the port is a bit recessed in the S100. My first time with picrel cable, the RGB light strip came on but no keys registered. I used the longer adapter and it has been flawless.Similarly, when you presumably build it for your dad, if the keys work but the RGB strip doesn't activate, it is likely due to poor contact with the pogo connector. Just reseat the PCB/foam/plate sandwich back and that should fix it immediately.It's easy to get a false impression of getting a broken kit if these things happen, and that won't be a problem now that you know.
>he doesn't have a keyboard with a singing pad
>>107038585>blackwhy
Can I pay someone to 3d print a case for my PCB?
>>107041569Sure, there are lots of 3D printing services, or even local people offering to print you can use. There was a site that kept track of local printing services but I forget the name of it. Hell I could do it assuming you have a case design ready for printing.
>>107041548Only one in stock
>>107032193drop the 6.5u requirement, no keyboard except the one you have uses that. get a good universal set like shenpo or xmi and get a real (cheap) keyboard, or get some meme caps with your 6.5u spacebar included and keep using the board you have. you wont find any decent set with a 6.5u spacebar.
>>107021658>meme switchessour grapes. they're objectively superior by any metric. seethe harder
Stab recommendations ?
>>107028731there's really quiet switches. that type of attack needs some minimum snr so it can pick up the individual keys, if I'd had to guess. phone mics aren't that stellar.also don't keep your phone right next to your keyboard, maybe
I think I'm pulling the trigger on the 143 key Shepno set from YMDK, hopefully it arrives before my anesthesia. Fingers crossed it's good and that it works with the 100% layout. There was also this 161 key set that was somehow cheaper, by 10$, but it comes with these weird dried vegetable colored caps. Guessing they might be thinner somehow.
>>107042737>we've detected unusual activity from your browser, slide to verify>oh noes no internet connection please reload the application and try againWell fuck you too, I guess it will only accept me paying from a stock botnet google chrome browser on an android phone.
>ordered a keyboard 4 months ago>...>never came>emailed the company a month ago, said they'd missed the order and they'd ship it out in a week>...>still nothing after a month>emailed them a few days ago>no replygod damnit dudeI just wanted my keyboardnow I gotta do a fucking chargeback and figure out how to make my own keyboard
>>107042523They're all the same these days.
>>107043118It's not that difficult to get a consoomer grade keyboard. Wtf did you order?
I'm working on a design for cardboard prototyping in KLE.I want to see how more pinky stagger and more thumb splay feel. I just copied the design of the Silakka I'm currently using and will make the changes tomorrow.
I guess I am late to the party but anon may want to reconsider his order and possibly look at these too. It has the spacebar and 1u windows keys he would need for just a few dollars more. And they're supposedly GMK. aliexpress.com/item/1005008603166051.html
>>107041311gASSket
is pairing an oem or xda spacebar with cherry profile keycaps a bad idea
>>107022975sassy niggas
>>107044071A real man doesn't ask.
Buying Cerakeys was the biggest mistake of my life
>>107038689Guro belongs on >>>/b/
>>107042523There was that anon going on about how knight V4s were the best stabs he ever tried, worth looking into.
Gateron failed to make a tactile switch and ended up with the Melodics, which are more clicky than functionally tactile. BSUN's Strawberry Cheesecake R2s make you feel the whole keycap when you press down, it's such a solid feeling under your fingers.
>>107040471yes>>107043885they're not gmk lol, just random wob pbt dye sub
>>107044071If it's the only way to get the spacebar size you need, no. Spacebar's a visually pretty distinct key so you can get away with mixing and matching more than you could with some other keys, I think.
>>107043885>and they're supposedly GMK>$23.99
>>107043885>PBT Dyesyb, aliexpress>GMKPick one, dumbass.
Some anons are a bit new here and don't yet know that GMK has a different meaning in the Chinese culture. To us, GMK means GMK electronic design GmbH, a German company founded in 1992 by Manfred Güntner and Wolfgang Kredler which makes $140 keycap sets, known for their dedication to producing some of the best keycaps for Cherry MX switches. In China, GMK means no-name brand keycaps very good only $24 you buy
>>107045669>In China, GMK means no-name brand keycaps very good only $24 you buy
>when I die and they lay me to rest>I'm gonna go to the place that's the best (Daimlerstraße 8, 92533 Wernberg-Köblitz, Germany)
>>107046523>Prepare yourself you know it's a must>Gotta have a friend in Güntner
>>107042475They employ a gimmick you will never actually use. They are a meme, same as if you told me you bought kailh low profile reds or something. I like EC switches personally but that doesn’t stop them from being a meme either. Anything not standard MX is a meme.
