>many members of Generation Z have difficulty with small talk and fundamental social courtesies. This is often described as a blank stare that they give to some questions that are askedHow can technology cure the gen z stare
>>107021713Not sure if they just picked a bad image, but that facial expression looks personable and trustworthy to me. He's just a dude chillingt. gen z
did someone (probably from this site) really spend time writing that wikipedia page as a joke
>>107021723gen z stare is mainstream normie stuff. it has been on UK current affair shows and in the newspapers. it is a noticeable behavioural shift which boomers notice and feel the need to discuss.
>>107021794It's because boomers are performative. Consider also that they're the target audience for things like TV commercials, veneer is baked into their DNA since they're terrified to glimpse through the veil and see the world as it is.
>gen z are less willing to perform like a clown for their slave keepersSounds based to me
if you're not my boss or offering me your butthole why should I talk to you?
>>107021719>personable and trustworthyif by personable and trustworthy you mean trying to figure out how to kill you and steal your wallet without anyone noticing
What is wrong with thinking again?
>>107021864CopeIt's literally just a neutral, relaxed face
>>107021870>CopeThe fuck is that supposed to mean? With what? For what purpose? I'm not the one making the axe murderer face.
>>107021713When someone can't open up, it's also a sign of a lack of emotional intelligence on the part of the person they're talking to.
>>107021879>seething this hard over the fact that he's falling behind and no longer understands the social status quoHahahahaha
>>107021904How is asking a question "seething"? Do you often think people are angry with you when you say nonsensical things and they act confused as a result?
>>107021903I get more girls not "opening up," and I make fun of faggots who get too comfortable and start giving me ammo to use against them.
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>>107021713>difficulty with small talk and fundamental social courtesies.This is some bitter old hag posting is it not?You are a post wall roastie. Leave the pleasantries for the young women.Also small talk and social niceties are pure cringe and have always been useless. It is not surprising that more advanced generations see this as retarded.
>>107021926Do you think you will stay young forever?
Technology created it
>>107021931Yes. I plan to kill myself at 40
>>107021713What's the usecase for small talk? Im glad generation Zuckless is getting rid of it
>>107021931yes, i lift weights and eat clean. my dick will work when im 90 and i'll still stick it in teen girls
>>107021713i think most gen z are just unfamiliar with social situations that that they totally blank out in certain situations, but i do think it also partially comes from "discourse fatigue", like knowing its not worth your time trying to talk to someone who refuses or is unable to really understand or cooperate with you in anyway. if i was working in retail and a boomer came to me with some banal issue, i would probably hit them with the stare too
>>107021713imagine young people being so average that one of their defining features is being socially retarded
Millennials and boomers are under the false pretense that the "gen Z stare" is some kind of unconscious habit or behaviorIn reality, it's an expression of barely-concealed rage and spite. They are looking at you like that because they hate you.
>>107021959Sounds like autism.t. Suffering form autism
>>107021973trvthnvke
>>107021959small talk is useless. it is for awkward and faggot people who cannot stand in peacefull silence with another human being. i am glad zoomers understand this and are getting rid of it.
>>107021973TSMTBasedllennials and boomers don't get this because they can't fathom people not liking them. In their mind they're the greatest people in history.
>>107021955Unbelievably based
>>107021713Obsessed and jealous at a young generation and stuck in his mommy's basement in their 30s award
>>107021979i think i have a lot of problems but autism is not one of them. rather i quickly read and categorize people based on the way they emote and their overall presentation. bit of an exaggerated example but i've never talked to someone who follows a conversation slack jawed and come out of that thinking "wow that guy was really smart">>107021973also this yeah lmfao. i am millenial enough to find it weird but also young enough to understand where it comes from. old people have always been annoying but nowadays they somewhat undeservedly own this planet, so it leads to a lot of smouldering negative emotions when dealing with them
>>107022082>smouldering negative emotions when dealing with themmore like just dealing with them. you talk and there's no one there. after a while you instinctivrly don't talk because you know it's pointless
>>107021713I worked with californian startup full remote when I was first starting out. I am from some shit eastern european country. The amount of fake niceties people in US do borders on anxious compulsive behavior. Constant head nodding, smilling, clapping, political correctness and corrective speech. It isn't even for sake of being nice, it's just to make them soothe their anxieties. They feared getting fired or worse yet "excommunicated from the herd" that they would peg themselves as always helpful and "being there". Worthless sacks of shit.
>>107022104>after a while you instinctivrly don't talk because you know it's pointlessoh yeah this is it summed up. i think for retail zoomers there is an added element that they have never known job security, wealth or even stability, and they're not allowed to tell boomers what they're really feeling, which is like >"i cant believe morons like you get to be millionaires while im wage slaving in a starbucks" because then they would get what little they have taken away from them. so instead they hit them with a contemptuous stare and they pray that god hears what they're thinkingthat said ive never a retail job so i havent had that much boomer exposure in my life, but thats what im thinking is going on inside their heads
>>107022125>fake nicenessI think people are nice and they go enough distance for you, if you reciprocate the feeling, even for strangers. No one's born nice, they have to try at it. If you act (fake) friendly to strangers, even if you dont know if you can trust them or not, and the stranger returns the gesture in kind, at the very least, you know they can reciprocate your feelings, even if its just a act/fake. No one has trust on 100% at the start, but if you act that way from the start, and receive trusting gesture in return, you build up a bridge of trust to rise together. So, show a smile, thank the people you're interacting with, show courtesy. These acts are simple gestures that do not cost you anything and have only positive outcome in return from most people. There's no natural trust for people, people around you are trying their best. You just failed to understand other's gestures because you're not mature enough.>political correctness/corrective speechThere are boundaries to nice acts, these cross the border and tresspass them. People that do these aren't nice people, they are authoritarians who want to lord over your freedom. Reject and dismiss.
>>107022177afaik many eastern europeans and especially russians are incredibly cynical and sour about everything. i wouldn't be surprised if they find the typical west coast american optimism and friendliness ingenuine. these people are conditioned to assume that any kind of conversation is a manipulation or a lie, and anything good that might happen is fake and gay, because they don't like to feel anymore disappointed with life than they already are. you may have noticed that there is a type of poster on 4channel that replies to any possibly good development with "this is actually gay transsexual globohomo shit in secret and it will fail". those are russian 4channelers
>>107021979This. "The gen Z stare" sounds like textbook autism. Must be all the vaccines or something
>>107022213Nah, it's the replacement for cretin smile of previous generations under same circumstances. Pretty based.
>>107022209>those are russian 4channlersThe country elected a leadership that rejects the tranny globohomo propaganda. 50% of the country rejects it. Hell, I'd bet 70-80% of people in the US rejects the tranny propaganda completely but they wont outright say it because of captive political correctness culture and the fear of being ostracized. No one wants to see the flourishing of an ideology where they demand children be castrated. Thats just plain evil. But most of the people are cowards/herds so they dare not shake the boat. "The Silent Majority" of those in the center rejects the transgender ideology. They are simply "live and let live", a simple herd mentality and not "lets make all children transgeder".
>>107021864that's an asian not a black though ever. The odds of an asian killing me are less likely than you not being a faggot
>>107022252yeah exactly, you nailed the mildly deranged and meandering way of writing rusanons use. you even managed to weave in some of the strange sounding figures of speech and adages they use to emphasize their points. the only way you could have made it sound more russian is if one of the sentences was phrased like an interrogation, as a sort of a way to pressure the reader into accepting your reasoning
>>107022177>"I am a chronic people pleaser that is so anxious of any sort of confrontation"There is difference between being nice and performative niceness. Being nice is remembering small details about person because you want to buy them a specific gift for birthday. Performative niceness is having a tab on everyone around you on a fucking rolodex just to efficiently and effectively make that social bond faster so they trust you faster.That's the real difference between a real smile and a fake smile. Now my mind goes to the worst case scenario. What is that person isn't a fucking spineless people pleaser but a manipulator that puts on a fake smile just to make others let their guard down.>These acts are simple gestures that do not cost you anythingThey cost me my energy, my time, my authenticity. Whenever I force a smile out when I am not happy I am disgusted with myself because I feel like a doll. I can't figure out how you freaks can do that without hating yourself to the core.>There's no natural trust for peopleThat's your mind on hyperindividualised fractured society.>You just failed to understand other's gestures because you're not mature enough.I understand that you're anxious if you don't get your little social cues re-affirmed every few seconds. I understand that you guys one up each other in performative niceness all the time. I understand that you, and every other fake nice person out there isn't some cookie cutter nice person but actually has a wide spectrum of emotions that they bottle up and explodes by kill puppies in some alleyway on the way home. You just can't be 100% nice to all the people. You MUST hate someone. You MUST not like someone. You MUST not be nice to someone. That is just how it is. You forcing yourself to be fake nice to those people makes you either a spineless twerp that I don't want around me or a manipulator that I don't want around me.
>>107022209If you faggots actually showed other emotions (anger, sadness, grumpiness) from time to time then I would trust your "niceness". But when you're 90% times nice, even to those people you actually DON'T LIKE, then yea you are being fake because you don't want confrontation and don't want trouble or don't want to cause a scene and don't want to lose your job. That is called manipulation.
>>107022174honestly you keep going at the jealousy angle. we feel bad for them. they're mentally gone. I work at a pizzeria and I got paid enough to buy everything I wanted, which isn't much. the work is hard but it's effortless for me. no hurt feelings there. most adults become autistic with age from all the flu shots and mercury fillings they're getting, they don't bang lots of women or use their money in any way I feel jealous of. again, it's pity
>>107022177This is truer but it doesn't account for us anti socials. I don't actually want people to be approaching me and opening up to me and conversing with me. It may be my personality type, or perhaps my face/eyes but if I'm nice, people open up about all their bullshit and cross essentially all of my personal barriers. The worst example I've ever had of this, that makes me just not bother with 'being nice' anymore was being held hostage in a bank while trying to open a bank account because the lady trying to create my account got side tracked telling me about how her daughter was raped and assaulted while traveling and she had been struggling with it for a while. Like, I'm sorry that happened, but I've known you for 15 minutes and I don't need this. Guess what, if you're a cunt no one ever does this.
>>107021713>gen z starei call it the npc look. i figured public school did that. shut them down
>>107022314I think it’s just merciless autism in your case, anon. I don’t even think about that shit.
>>107022361>I don't think I know
>>107022343>telling me about how her daughter was raped and assaultedhot>>107022361>I don’t even thinkyeah we know
>>107022314>I understand that you're anxious >they cost me my energy, my time, my authenticity>thats your mind on hyperindividualised fractured societyIf your only concern is your individual distress, arent you being hyper individualistic? I get what you mean by costing energy to smile/act nice/etc cause I'm the same, but I can understand the kindness gesture for even strangers like me who havent shown any gratitude towards them.. I should be expecting neutral face or frown when I meet strangers, because thats my own natural state. So I'm just saying, if your focus is your interest above others, thats a you problem isnt it? Showing courtesy isnt a selfish behavior, its a selfless behavior, or rather it becomes selfish only in the 2nd order effects of game theory where it might be beneficial but the main display of courtesy is simple maintenance of trust based society.
>>107021973>>In reality, it's an expression of barely-concealed rage and spite. They are looking at you like that because they hate you.lol
>>107022340i think if i was an american zoomer i would definitely feel a sort of envy towards boomers. they basically own the country yet they do not work towards it in anyway. they just "own". the current younger generations have been the most productive in american history, yet they have almost nothing to show for it. all their productivity is used to subsidize the boomer ownership class' luxurious lifestyles and the various way they squander their wealth. i guess if i was face to face with actual lead addled boomers and their general inabilities then i would feel more pity towards them but idki personally live in a more egalitarian country so the boomers haven't looted us so much that it has warped the entire country around it, but it's still enough to annoy me into not wanting to work very hard, because a large portion of my income is forcibly taken and given to boomers anyway
>>107021713Gen Z stare is media propaganda just like "quiet quitting" to make the wealthy and old people believe the youth are going to ruin the nation, and not the handful of lizard people in control of everything. It's literally just boomer propaganda because boomers believe everything the TV tells them.
>>107022405>BoomersThey believe everything the TV tells them>MillenialsThey believe everything facebooks/reddit tells them>ZoomersThey believe anything instagram/tiktok tells themWhat they dont realize is they're all brainwashed
>>107022177>If you act (fake) friendly to strangers, even if you dont know if you can trust them or not, and the stranger returns the gesture in kind, at the very least, you know they can reciprocate your feelings, even if its just a act/fake. No one has trust on 100% at the start, but if you act that way from the start, and receive trusting gesture in return, you build up a bridge of trust to rise together.Funny enough, this is kinda how I was when I met my gf. Now that I'm more comfortable with her and have more or less stopped pretending to like or care about people, she's feeling like I sold her a lie. I guess my point is that pretending you're someone you're not might only get you so far before biting you in the ass.
>>107021794its because boomer are all narcistic goys. they never learned how to think for themself, never learned how to be human
>>107021713I just know when I see that look they are either thinking of killing you or killing themselves kek
>>107022386No, I associate myself with people I find fond and that I relate to. I don't force myself to be nice to those I despise, don't like or generally don't care about. I know what I like in others. That is normal human being. Social, but to a fucking point.Hyper individualism of west is caused by consumerism and lack of identity. Americans can't feel identity of ethnicity, culture or even subcultural movements so they become hyper individualistic where they try to mend the social break by appeasing one another to the point of collective circlejerk.>but I can understand the kindness gesture for even strangers like me who havent shown any gratitude towards themOh if it's first time meeting you, and I am genuinely interested in meeting you then I will smile and want to learn more about you, even if I had a bad day.>simple maintenance of trust based societyI show more trust by bringing a napkin to others when I went out to get a napkin for myself during the pizza party. I show more trust by giving harsh truths to people about their loved ones, the harsh truths they need to hear. If you would rather trust someone who smiles and nods at you then see pic related. This is the reason why people can't discern others emotions and their own. I would expect some compassionate sadness here. Or ambivalence (as most are), but no you are bombarded with a smile a nod.
>>107021903holy projecting niggerI'm not (((opening up))) to some vaccinated GOY sub 120 IQ fuckfaceemotional intelligence can only be embraced in an enviroment without kikes and niggers
>>107022177You are the exact type of performative American he is talking about. I am also American, and have been around people from all over the world, and it's a unique "us" problem.Other cultures have customs, but ours just amounts to corporate performance. Anything to smooth over the ire of an employer throwing his little tantrum for the day.
>>107021848What are these small talk shits and who tf enjoys them?
>>107022209west coast "optimism" IS ingenuine, we're not talking about people who actually invite you to their home after offering we're talking about vapid people-pleasers with nothing to back it up
>>107022396it doesn't bother me. money is pointless. it's a form of life support for people we never want to become
>>107022314>my authenticity. Whenever I force a smile out when I am not happy I am disgusted with myself because I feel like a doll. I can't figure out how you freaks can do that without hating yourself to the core.this is why I like you East Yuranons, call out the bullshit pls
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>>107022339im not american. its more like i'm a bit of a racist in the hobbyist meaning, and i like to study how people from different countries tend to act. i just find it interesting and i think i'm good at it because i can empathize with a lot of different viewpointstake britbongs for example: i think the most common perception is that they act snooty and cunty, but i've come to think that it's more to do with how they maintain social dynamics. they WANT to uphold a very high standard for how they treat people, but they also echo back any energy you give to them. so if you are very courteous and speak very respectfully to them, then they will echo that respect back to you. but if you accidentally omit certain niceties or etiquette, then they perceive that as you disrespecting them, and they immediately revert to 1800s britisher in india mode and will treat you with the same regard they give to a bag of dogshit at their door. there are exceptions obviously, especially among young people and scots/english/welsh etc., but imo it is quite different from dealing with a random germoid that has basically no social tact aside from adding XD or ^^ to convey friendliness
>>107022213you're a domesticated cattleyou're not humanwhen israel says "clap", you do clap
>>107022430> I guess my point is that pretending you're someone you're not might only get you so far before biting you in the ass.Pretending to be someone you're not can work when that relationship is more business-like than an actual personal relationship, but generally entering into personal relationships with a facade is a terrible idea. It's always best to be honest but with some sort of filter to get the worst, most anti-social tendencies out.
>>107022455Other cultures want to come to America because we're the land of opportunity for those that can communicate and interact with others. "Corporate performance" is jargon for getting along with people you work with for 10 hours a day for years to come. Having them as absolute strangers/enemies makes no difference. The "ciorporate performance" isn't American uniqueness, its everywhere in the world where there are large successful companies where you have to interact with many people to work with. Having some cagey people in the employment, someone ready to bite another's head off, someone who frowns all the time, someone who has no facial expression at all, those are no fun to work with for anyone. I understand someone who does not want to be put on the spotlight to be part of the meaningless/faceless culture. America tried that during the Cubicle era. People absolutely hated it. So they switched to the dog/pony show with infantalization of office work. People hates that as well
>>107022501I remember one joke I heard from those cynical US comedians that hits this topic on the headIt goes like this >you remember when you are on cemetery during the burial of your close friends and family and then someone comes along and says "If there's anything you need, I'm here for you".? You call that fucker out, you tell him that you need your lawn mowed, your dishes cleaned, your dry cleanings picked up.....
>>107021915>>How is asking a question "seething"?When all their human interaction is online every conversation is an argument to win
>>107022387Literally me
>>107022511I personally just see britbongs as passive aggressive sissies. They can't even curse at each other without it sounding off. Yea, they're "upholding their high standards of treating each other" but it gets to a point, same as fake niceness. Sometimes you need to get in a fight, or tell a guy to "sod off" (whatever that means). It's a sign of a dying society in my eyes. Performative social rules for laws long gone.
Literally any generation is better than boomers. Gen x is 1000x better. Even soilenials are better. Even lgbtqia++ gen alphas are better. The only issue with later gens is there are less White people.
>>107022516I don't completely buy the notion that I did all this intentionally to attain a relationship through deception. She knew I was an introvert with autistic tendencies from the beginning. And I thought it was completely natural, for everyone, to put more effort into a relationship at the start, but then relax back into your comfort zone once you've secured it. Besides, time has passed and with age I've grown less and less tolerant of people's bullshit. Point is, if I neglected to message her back or leave the house to do things with her in the early days, she would have said "fuck this guy" and nothing would have happened between us in the first place, I would have been just another blackpilled foreveralone r9k poster.
>>107022597>I would have been just another blackpilled foreveralone r9k poster.now you're a blackpilled failed normalfag
>>107022430Gesture is there to lead you to the door, you have to cross the door yourself. Male peacocks put on a show. Male humans show their worth in money/strength/prestige-influence/power. Some do so by showering with money, others do so my dressing up, others by having lots of influences, others by domineering figure, etc. Whatever you choose, the goal is to mate and pass on the genes This should only take few tries at worse case scenario. After the child is born, your body/mind naturally reverts to taking care of the children/family.
>>107021713Is it bad that that I see this as someone intensely listening and observing to what is in front of them?Everytime I talk to Gen z I get the impression they're intensely listening and processing what I am saying. And this makes boomers and faggot gen xers nervous and uncomfortable?
>>107022597Does she at least have similar tastes and/or values to you? Also, the point of relationship is to always put effort into it. Don't enter into one unless you plan on changing your bad habits for the rest of your life or for at least the duration of the relationship.Personally, I couldn't care less about a woman unless she at least somewhat aligns with my natural disposition. Maybe not 100%, but enough so that the similarities are there and present. Pussy is something you can buy (and that's always been the case with probably most women throughout history) but you can't buy a true connection/love.
>>107022597Sounds like you're making excuses for yourself. If you exaggerated an aspect of yourself to get something you wanted, yeah, that's dishonest, isn't it? Under a certain lens, you could even call that manipulative.
The stare doesn't hurt anyone otherwise they end up like that kid that smashed a monitor over his head dealing with some boomer
>>107022632And a follow up on this, they actually execute what it is I am asking them to do so it isn't really a big deal.
>>107022635I wouldn't say manipulative because he's not trying to force her to see him a certain way, but yeah it's dishonest and the fact that people feel they need to be dishonest in order to be sexually appealing to the other sex is why the dating pool is so fucked. Not to say it's new, but the normalization of it certainly is. People hate this fucking advice so much but it's fucking true: Just be yourself and if who you are is shitty, be a better person (start with Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Aristotle and Seneca if you don't know how to do that practically).
>>107022673>Just be yourself and if who you are is shitty, be a better personi dont recommend this lol, youll just end up deluding yourself even more
>>107022690That just sounds like cope. Outside of work/formal environments, what do you gain by putting on an act 24/7? People that like the facade you created for yourself rather than you, brown-nosers and other subhumans that want to use you? People that say shit like that have deep self-hatred problems and are the type of people that probably would benefit from not living in a false reality of their own making.
>>107022673Counter argument: If who you are naturally pits others against you, you should grow comfortable being alone, and learn to extract happiness from other things, like sabotaging the joy of others.
>>107022631And as a follow up, they always do what I am asking. It isn't with a smile but I'm certainly not picking up disdain and hate. When I dealt with fast food and retail workers in the UK and Europe I would get that hate and disdain sense though. I think this is just widespread autism.
>>107022741I don't even think it's autism per se since most of them do what they're supposed to do without going against common social mores due to lack of understanding or just contrarianism. It's just them doing their jobs without being performative, which is fine. I'm not here to talk, I'm here to do work. You can't treat work like a social space when I barely even know you and knowing you intimately isn't in the job description nor is it something I truly intend to do with my own problems.Boomers need to learn about compartmentalizing work and other aspects of their life and not letting them bleed into one another. We don't live in a world where that's the case anymore and haven't for awhile now.
>>107022616More like some kind of failed normie / failed autist hybrid, who has the ability to be social and "achieve things" but not the willingness.>>107022620>the goal is to mate and pass on the genesI'm aware, that's why I don't want to lock myself out of that eventuality.>After the child is born, your body/mind naturally reverts to taking care of the children/family.I hope so. Otherwise the entire family is fucked.>>107022632>Does she at least have similar tastes and/or values to you?Values, sure. Interests, not really.>Don't enter into one unless you plan on changing your bad habits for the rest of your life or for at least the duration of the relationship.I feel like my autistic tendencies is what gets perceived as bad habits. Not something that can easily be changed.>>107022635Any social situation by default requires me to step out of my comfort zone, so, under a certain other lens, one could also say that you're a bit of a piece of shit for calling my already piss poor efforts to maintain some form of social connections as "manipulative".
>>107021794yeah they are probably just bored with your normie boomer bullshit and want to go back to play roblox or whatever
>>107021713It's just the face of a person who's looking at a screen and is deep in thought.
>>107022405Took too long for someone to point this out.
>>107022796>Values, sure. Interests, not really.Fair play I guess. That's more than a lot of couples have so that's definitely good. I might have been a bit harsh earlier, but I've just seen so many fucking retards cry over some bitch leaving them as if their wife of 30 years died suddenly or something. And they always had nothing in common and literally a week after the breakup, she's fucking another guy.A lot of dudes are just pathetic enough to make pussy their life. >I feel like my autistic tendencies is what gets perceived as bad habits. Not something that can easily be changed.Also fair enough. As long as they aren't actually destructive (to yourself or to others), it's just an eccentricity at worse, which everyone has whether we like to admit it or not.The best thing you can do is hanging around people that like you despite your quirks. It just makes life easier not to have to guess whether someone likes you or not despite shit that you can't control all that much.
wait is all of this just simple autism
>>107022405yeah fuck the new world order and babylon
>>107022858Not everything is autism. Modern schooling system stops children from playing with each other, so that stops the child development cycle. The ability to learn, interact, negotiate, trade, etc at playground is lost. This has adverse effect for adulthood. Think of the covid era children who lost 2-3 years of their schooling. They're fucked.
>interrupts my trains of thought and tulpa forcing for your "have you heard news from the other provinces" oblivion npc bullshitBoomers deserve nursing homes staff by La'qeishas for this. Divine sparkless, appleless behavior.
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