Has anyone been paying attention to the video encoder drama? It's pretty funny how it's escalating. > Tech influencer gets frustrated with VLCs shitty codec implementation > claims it's archaic and can barely do things that mpv and mpc-hc have figured out a decade ago > banding, backwards frame by frame, frame updates when seeking.> "V4 has been needed for 5 years now, it’s becoming vaporware."> for some reason the FFmpeg twitter dunks on him asking "can't wait to see your implementation> gets support from cheerleaders and unemployed devs in replies e.g. "YAAS FFMPEG own that loser tech bro"> influencer gets kind of annoyed and confused since he believes he has a legit grievance. > influencer decides to big dick and donos $5000 to try and make amends because he had no issue with ffmpeg for some reason> turns out the @ffmpeg account is run by a VLC dev and he's been dunking of people using the account to get free internet points ("wheres the patch bro? Can't wait for you to submit your own fix."> has a history of shutting down peoples issues with vlc. (BACKWARDS FRAME BY FRAME REQUIRES ENDLESS GOP REEE) From the vlc forums. > influencer then offers $20000 if the ffmpeg if they kick off the guy from the twitter handle. > influencers site is currently shut down in multiple countries due to mass spam reportsSupposedly the vlc dev on ffmpegs twitter has gone rogue and isn't giving up the password and is no longer waiting for approvals for tweets. All this because VLC is still shit...
>only (((one))) jurno covering itBUYANADLUNJEW
>>107027495fag triggers fag and fag triggers even more the other fag and who cares?ffmpeg twitter account is just some marketing strategy with "based" response to jerks like Theo. The developers on the hand are based af
>>107027495>turns out the @ffmpeg account is run by a VLC dev and he's been dunking of people using the account to get free internet pointwhat the fuck are you talking about
>>107027543But he has a point though. vlc IS shit, basic features that every other video player has sorted out years ago are nowhere near being fixed. Any thread complaining about it gets closed.
Yes, there’s been notable online chatter about this incident, though it appears to be more of a social media flare-up than a serious technical controversy. The core of the drama stems from a tech influencer (widely believed to be Theo, of t3.gg) criticizing VLC -- not FFmpeg --for what he described as outdated video playback behavior: issues like visible banding, poor frame-by-frame navigation, and inefficient seeking. He argued that VLC’s implementation lags far behind players like mpv or MPC-HC, and lamented that “VLC 4 has been needed for 5 years now” However, the official @FFmpeg Twitter account, which many assumed represented the FFmpeg developer team, responded mockingly, saying things like “Can’t wait to see your implementation” and “Where’s the patch?” This escalated tensions, as the influencer clarified he never blamed FFmpeg, which actually powers much of VLC’s decoding backend It later emerged that the person running the @FFmpeg Twitter handle is reportedly a VLC developer, not an active FFmpeg maintainer, and may be using the account independently, possibly without current project oversight. According to sources, “the guy running the Twitter isn’t really involved with FFmpeg at all, but none of them have the password” This has led to accusations that the account is being used for personal clapbacks under the guise of FFmpeg’s reputation. In an unusual move, the influencer donated $5,000 to FFmpeg in good faith, then later offered $20,000 if the project would reclaim control of the Twitter account—suggesting the tweets were damaging FFmpeg’s image Meanwhile, observers note that FFmpeg itself remains foundational to nearly all modern media software, including YouTube, Netflix, Discord, and yes, VLC, making the public spat especially ironic Some community members defend the FFmpeg devs as “based af,” arguing the Twitter account is just a meme persona, while others find the tone alienating.
>>107027572The guy who posts on the ffmpeg account on twitter is a vlc maintainer uses it to make meme posts.
>>107027638I hate that YouTube grifter faggot so much I want to stop seeing him popup in my recommendations, so I side with ffmpeg
>>107027495backwards frame-by-frame is also a mess on mpv lolhttps://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/9524
>>107027740correct linkhttps://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/2796
>>107027750this is actually the main issuehttps://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/4019
>>107027740>>107027772Is it that that specific use case where you want to go back too far? and the subtitles? Because if so I'd argue that's a pretty reasonable compromise just to be able to do it. If you're doing frame by frame stuff you only really need that one specific frame no?Like I'm trying to understand is it a reasonable enough issue to prevent it from being on vlc. Because on the current video players people are happy with it. Even with the glitch.
>>107027788No, it's slow every time. It's slow when you just want to step back one frame.Devs say keeping a cache of previous frames is impossibru
>>107027802>Devs say keeping a cache of previous frames is impossibrurip in peace intel inside toasters
>>107027638is this your proof that the account is ran by a VLC maintainer lol?
>>107027543>fag triggers fag and fag triggers even more the other fag and who cares?>ffmpeg twitter account is just some marketing strategy with "based" response to jerks like Theo. The developers on the hand are based afEven worse, Theo is the only one who benefits from this. No matter how low the techbros and mpv jeets go, at the end of the day, this isn't allocating more resources to the ffmpeg libraries we all depend on. It's just edrama grifters getting their shekels worth from the low attention span zoomoids.
>>107027802I can do backwards frame by frame almost at real time speedNon issue
>>107027802y-you don't know what a cache is, do you? "why, yes, i cache historic framebuffers to save time in the expected case of decoding future frames" besides, there's no fucking way they said "we haven't and cannot implemented seek back", you disingenuous retard
>>107027594The naive implementation of this is easy as shit though. Just seek back, render, and display. Buffer some frames too. No accurate seeking needed. What a retard.
>>107028015okay just play videos with only i-frames
>>107027495It's only the chuds on 4chan/g that constantly cry about vlc, irl millions of people use vlc, and there is really no beef between ffpeg and vlc. He made a huge mistake going public with his vlc rant (he might even be right regarding vlc but the masses don't care about that)>for some reason the FFmpeg twitter dunks on him asking "can't wait to see your implementationlol
> It's only the chuds on 4chan/g that constantly cry about vlcTrue, but that doesn't mean you can't improve it. Like if you take the non-autistic approach to VLC you can point out legit issues and if the maintainers weren't up their own ass they could do something about it. Like the backwards frame by frame thing. Literally every video player has solved for this. Okay non-austistic people don't use it and they don't care. Does that mean it should never be worked on? At least let me shit on it online without the dev ratio'ing me.
>>107028078You are right of course but the thread is about some dumb tech influencer not knowing how public sentiment works
>>107028119Or its about some obnoxious maintainer whose too lazy to actually work on basic feature patches. But happy to shitpost on twitter for likes.
>social media scum trying to subvert and kill a OS projectA tale as old as the talmud.
>>107028178To be fair his donation was to get the twitter account off one maintainer. Not to kill the project.
hello Theo, your thread is gay
>>107027638i don't see anything wrong with that tweet
>>107028493yeah when you ignore all context and turn your brain off sure
>>107028493He deleted the initial tweet but his initial issue was about VLC. FFmpeg chimed in because I think he complained about their implementation on VLC. >Constant lock ups, freezes, playback issues, color problems.
>>107027711Objectively correct. ffmpeg is a sexual tyrannosaurus.
>>107027606Kill yourself ai nigger
>>107027495Yes, VLC is mediocre, both mpv and mpc-hc are better, imo mpc-hc through k lite codec pack is best overall.
>>107027495He's right about vlc tho. It really is getting dated. And the ffmpeg account is cringe, it would be less cringe if they actually accepted patches but they don't really do that. The ffmpeg maintainers are being autistic in bad way.For example, ffmpeg couldn't handle animated webp for the longest time and one of the devs expressed "surprise" that people even used webp. But people didn't choose to use webp, it was forced onto them by google and when people tried to convert files away from webp ffmpeg couldn't tho that.Normies have glazed ffmpeg devs for too long they need to be taken down a peg.
>>107028514the original tweet didn't reference ffmpeg at all
>>107027638Simple und Based
>>107027495A zig-zag? Why open source projects can't have cute logos?
>>107028944H264 motion estimation pattern I think.
>>107028944What do you mean?Infill curve logos always looks good, somewhat East Asian even.
>>107028976JPEG uses that pattern too.>>107028991Logos should be evocative for the general public.
>>107029049FFMPEG isn't intended for the general public.
>>107027495>turns out the @ffmpeg account is run by a VLC dev and he's been dunking of people using the account to get free internet pointsLol based.
>>107027495ok i read>all>that>shitnow tell me what the point is? i checked and i have 7.1.1 ffmpeg and i used it 5 min ago and it works
>>107027495He's right about VLC but I don't see why I've would get so upset about it. It's like how gimp will never ever be good.He's acting like a cunt though. It looks like everything he does he does it for internet points, which turns into money in his case. People who think they can randomly start to throw money around and bark orders at others are insufferable.
i'm not connected to ffmpeg, and yet, i do know who operates @ffmpeg, and he is not connected to vlc. lol.i won't be telling you followers of "tech influencers" and zog e-celeb tards who he is.but the funniest part is, he would happily play along to make that retard cough up $XXk. so if that doesn't end up happening, it would be because the other developers didn't want it, or as is often the case in that project, because they will bicker at each other forever without ever reaching an agreement about what to do.
>>107029386sure thing bud
>>107029180it made me smile because of the shenanigans have a good day /g/
front-facing account "managers" are the same kind of retards as "tech influencers"
>>107029632some guy said something an another guy said another thingit didnt make me smilepeople say shit all the time
>>107029666just assume its all true why not
>>107027495>mpc-hc I used it for 15 years or so until it stopped playing subtitles. I tried reinstalling, still doesn't play them, VLC does so I use that
>>107029746i just use it because of vlsub
>>107027495at least vlc works lmfao
>>107027495theo is a niggerfaggot, regardless of this recent dumbassary.But VLC is ass and I will never recommend it as a media player to anyone. MPV will be my goto recommendation and if some dumbass windows user can't stand MPV then I will tell them to install MPC-HC and all that shitty codec it needs to run correctly.
>>107029864Man, trannies sure are passionate about video players. And it's always mpv too. Crazy
>>107029864>tell them to install MPC-HCshit barely functions nowadays tf you babbling about
>>107028944Their original logo was great, but then a fork called libav happened, one of the faggots in charge of libav trademarked the ffmpeg logo, sent legal threats, and forced them to change it to 3D.libav is dead, no one remembers it, and all the developers in charge of it hopefully did neck hangs until failure.
>>107029881works on my system
>>107027543no need to post that artistic impression of yourself here
>>107028944it's an MPEG/JPEG reference
