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is this a recent meme?
or is this where "freetard" comes from?

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>>107035526
You are a meme

>>107035526
>>107035599
99% of our problems would be resolved if people just fucking chilled out and learned that if are talking to someone rigid about an OS or some tech opinion that you ignore them.

>>107035765
>that if are talking
that if they are*

>>107035500
We need to go back
>>107035526
>>107035765
I thought "fretard" was used to refer to someone who prefered free software. Anyway, I do filter retards and bait, but it's difficult to ignore shitposting, ragebait, shills and bots when 80% of the posts in this board at any given time are just that, there's rarely any real discusison about technology anymore.

>>107031485
arch linux
>>107027412
do you know anything about the

truetype:interpreter-version=40

option for FREETYPE_PROPERTIES?
would this make any difference?

>PipeWire SEGFAULTS if my headphones are unplugged and I try to change the output to them via pactl
That's a new one! At least I found out they'd come unplugged though.
Be careful where you let your kittens roam. My cats have discovered that my computer is made of warm.

>>107031955
>>107032485
It's not a bug, it's a feature. When you lift your finger from the right mouse click it'll do a left click wherever your cursor is. The problem is that I move my mouse too quickly and my finger doesn't leave the right mouse button before I move the cursor above the context menu so I get an unwanted left click
>>107033240
>You keep saying "left click" but there is none triggered
I meant as in what it effectively does, not a literal left click. But yes I understand how it works and why it works like that.
>The problem is that there is no minimum wait and minimum travel between button press and button release
Yes, there should be a grace period for this period but this person >>107030329 and people some qt devs disagree with that.

Grace period, an option for the context menu on mouseup rather than mousedown or making mouseup not do a "left click" would all be acceptable solutions for me.
>>107033455
>I right click I don't need to hold it and the menu stays
I don't either, that's not the issue. The problem is that within the few milliseconds before my finger comes off the right mouse button I've already moved my cursor above the context menu which causes an unwanted click.

For me, Debian stable just works. I like a stable and secure system, not a constant bugfest.

>>107035784
>I thought "fretard" was used to refer to someone who prefered free software.
It is, the meme is basically slander upon slander.
>I do filter retards and bait
If it isn't a "general" I don't interact with it.

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>>107035916
I always have between 80 and 100 threads hidden at all times, we all know mods don't give a shit but at least they could pretend. Even for generals most of them feel like circlejerks or off-topic garbage that stay here merely because they're somewhat related to technology. Nowadays I just use /fglt/ and /sqt/, and the ocassional random thread.

Does glade or camablanche work on cinnamon?

>>107034745
If you don't have a cock.li account and are still getting that popup your system is infected.

 grep -rlF 'cock.li' $HOME

And see what files match.

>>107035950
fair point, usually if I'm here I'm doing a project and asking for opinions or help and if I see something I can help with or a convo that is interesting to me I jump in. I can get the whole OS/console war vibe but I'm old and tired enough now to just kinda let people do their thing. Linux is just way too big to enforce a dogma, why bother trying?

Does KDE connect not work between linux and windows? I have it installed on all my Windows PCs without an issue but when I tried installing it on my laptop with Mint it couldn't detect anything.

>>107036222
A firewall or VPN blocking it maybe? Try manually opening it on both machines and refreshing the device list. If not, try manually adding the device by IP.

First for Guix

When booting an iso from ventoy what do I need to do to fix the grub on the machine? Is it like windows where I click install, then repari?

>>107036267
no difference with firewall on or off, I rebooted the laptop and it fixed itself somehow

I have two SSDs and will soon get another one and install Linux on it. I've heard stuff along the lines of btrfs being better than NTFS and whatnot, and I suppose that I would be better off wiping my two drives and creating btrfs partitions instead. I'd like to know if there's any way I could do this while retaining my data, outside of just copying the data from my two drives to yet another one, creating btrfs partitions, then copying the data back.

is mate a good de, does anyone use that? i want to migrate from kde, tried xfce and i like some aspects of it but hate others, never tried mate or cinnamon, what am i in for? gonna try on live.
>>107035515
so, why theres no distro that comes with this? looks cooler than any de out of the box. we only have a pre-config for window maker based on debian.

>>107034819
yeah, apt lists a bunch of Akonadi packages
only things on autostart system settings shows are KAlarm, Latte and Telegram
I can't expand the message window, but if I Alt+Tab, I can see the full name is "Confirm Website Access - Tine 2.0"
>>107035989
I do have one, I started getting this after using it on either KMail or Thunderbird (Don't remember which) to migrate some accounts (Just like 3 or 4 online vidya) when they discontinued the web client

>>107036507
Plenty of people use MATE. Why do you want to leave KDE? As always boot a live ISO or run a VM to see for yourself.

>>107036507
https://www.youtube.com/@AndreaBorman/videos
Andrea Borman uses MATE exclusively.

Is there such a thing as a website that lets you try out themes? Or do I need to just make a VM and test shit on there?

>>107036776
Use the default theme and be happy

Anyone using NixOS? I'm trying to kill off the network manager slopshow and use networkd. I keep getting a config error having to do with some conflict over resolve.conf. Any idea what is trying to lock it it before resolved gets there? mkForce does nothing for enabling resolved.

 error: The option `environment.etc."resolv.conf".source' has conflicting definition values:
       - In `/nix/store/sqilaxdxljyalv530z1qrd1q3nd4lyxq-source/nixos/modules/system/etc/etc.nix': <derivation etc-resolv.conf>
       - In `/nix/store/sqilaxdxljyalv530z1qrd1q3nd4lyxq-source/nixos/modules/system/boot/resolved.nix': "/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf"
       Use `lib.mkForce value` or `lib.mkDefault value` to change the priority on any of these definitions.

>>107036865
This shit is exactly why I will never use Nix. Give me Ansible over that any day of the week.

>download windows 10 iso
>plug in usb stick
>sudo dd if=./win10.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=10M status=progress
>boot into installer
>win10 installer is broken
Thanks windows, why can't you fucking give me a usb-compatible ISO?

>>107036906
meh, everything else works great. first real problem i've had with system configuration since i started using it.

>>107036924
i had to use ventoy to get it to boot into the installer

hi, complete beginner here, just installed Arch + KDE on an old SSD to experiment, how do I make konsole open and run fastfetch on startup?

>>107036992
>Konsole on startup
go to System Settings > Startup & Shutdown > Autostart, click "Add Program," find and select Konsole from the list, and then click OK to add it to your startup applications
>Assuming you want fast fetch every time a konsole opens.
sudo nano ~/.bashrc and add fastfetch.

recently switched from windows 10 to debian 13 and i want to use macros on my petsim games whats the easiest way to map my numpad to a few key combos

>>107036865
nm, got it, I was defining my nameserver incorrectly for use with resolved. it was correctly done under networking.nameservers

#  environment.etc = {
#    "resolv.conf".text = "nameserver 192.168.0.101";

>>107036865
is that even linux? lol

>>107037268
not really, it's an abstraction layer on top of a linux system.

>set up a PC for someone
>they don't want to pay for Windows and it's also somewhat business-related so they don't want it pirated either
>they're just going to be doing basic web browsing and word processing anyway, so install Xubuntu and skin it up to look mostly like Windows visually so they'd be comfortable using it
>one root user and one guest/unprivileged user
>client is present during the setup process, chooses the root password and everything

>about a year later, need to make some changes to it
>they don't remember the password they set up
>turns out they've just been using the guest user account all this time
Is there ANY way to gain root access without just throwing out the whole OS and reinstalling? I've got physical access to the machine.
My assumption is "no, dipshit, should've remembered your password" but I figured I'd ask.

>>107037288
why is nix trying to be so different? can't they have used more familiar nomenclature?

>>107037325
Chroot into it, change passwords.

>>107037325
chroot into the machine from a live usb and change root password.

write the root password on the computer case.

>>107036776
there is a website that lets you try out whole distros

distrosea.com

>>107037414
>doesn't have BOSS
what's the point?

>>107037414
genius

>>107037414
now thanks to you, the queue just jumped up and no one can use it without waiting.
i wonder if they have a timer so they kick people out

>>107037325
If there is no disk encryption then you can literally just edit the Grub boot arguments and add init=/bin/bash and this will boot your Linux directly into a root shell.

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>>107035500
I installed endeavour on my main rig and have been loving it so far. Still have windows on another drive for some non steam games but am very excited to ween myself off windows.

>>107037359
no, linux specifics are all fairly familiar. below is an example of a systemd unit file declared in nix. it's everything else that trips people up. making devshells/runtime environments is foreign.

{
  systemd.services.my-custom-service = {
    description = "some basic unit file";
    wantedBy = [ "multi-user.target" ];
    serviceConfig = {
      ExecStart = "${pkgs.bash}/bin/bash -c '${pkgs.whatever}/bin/whatever >/dev/null '";
      User = "myuser";
      Group = "users";
      Type = "oneshot";
      Restart = "always";
      RestartSec = 5;
    };
    enable = true;
    path = with pkgs; [ bash coreutils  ];
  };
}

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>>107037577
love to see it, as long as it doesn't have kernel level anticheat you can still run it through steam by adding it as a non steam game

>>107037615
>systemd unit file declared in nix

on my computer we call them init scripts

>>107037637
that's cool. i run alpine on my dell r630 house warmer/tinnitus cure. never gonna bother with musl though.

>>107037022
thanks

>>107037649
is alpine all its cracked up to be?

>>107037679
works fine as a server. all my dockers spin up fine and i don't fight it. dunno about any other use.

>>107037459
Lmao but how, this is literally in OP description

Guys I am trying to run a 32 bit source game on heroic games launcher but it isn't working.

This is the error I get.

 info:  Game: hl2.exe

info:  DXVK: v2.7.1-195-g2f9309786e2565a

info:  Build: x86 gcc 14.2.0

info:  Vulkan: Found vkGetInstanceProcAddr in winevulkan.dll @ 0x77fd35f0

info:  Extension providers:

info:    Platform WSI

info:    OpenVR

info:    OpenXR

info:  Enabled instance extensions:

info:    VK_KHR_win32_surface

018c:err:vulkan:wine_vkCreateInstance Failed to create instance, res=-9

err:   DxvkInstance::createInstance: Failed to create Vulkan instance

0150:err:service:device_notify_proc failed to get event, error 1726

I have 32 bit vulkan installed and the game run fines using steam.

I also get this when I try to run this

 pc@desktop:~$ flatpak run --command=vulkaninfo32 com.heroicgameslauncher.hgl 
F: Not sharing "/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d" with sandbox: Path "/usr" is reserved by Flatpak
bwrap: execvp vulkaninfo32: No such file or directory

Is there any way I can allow 32 bit vulkan. I need to use flatpak

>>107037577
Congrats on joining the penguin club! Endeavour is how I learned the basics of Arch before jumping fully in :)

>>107037813
This isn't really helpful, but.. I've been having this problem with bottles, lutris, and gamingonlinux. So I just ended up using winetricks and wine by itself

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>>107037913
I just tested flatpak lutris and it runs portal fine but heroic games launcher I guess doesnt bundle 32 bit vulkan libraries so it wont run them and as you know flatpaks dont have access to /usr where the libraries are.

I need to use flatpak for its sandboxing and automatic setup on a different PC.

What a shame since heroic is a lot better than lutris with artwork but whatever

Best distro/desktop environment for battery life?

The situation:
- brother needs a laptop to watch videos with other people
- has only ever used Windows before, but for using just VLC, who cares?

The computer I just bought for him:
- 4GB RAM
- Windows 7, originally
So it's pretty old.

The seller thinks that the battery will last two hours. Many movies are two hours long. I figure that I should be able to wring out a few more minutes by replacing Windows. The Internet search results are a bit overwhelming, though. I currently use Ubuntu without problems. I'm thinking of getting him Debian with Xfce, nice and proven. Could I do much better for battery life?

>>107037962
try faugus

anyone know a good screenshot program? shutter's startup time is insane

>>107038000
Checked.
Also, I use LXDE (not LXQt) for even more battery life while keeping the mouse cursor + window environment that isn't keyboard shortcuts like dwn, bspwm, i3, etc.
Might be able to go even lighter with just purely openbox/icebox.

>>107038026
spectacle

>>107038000
get a 32-bit distro since you will save like 40% in memory doing that.

devuan or something streamlined to set up.
get a window manager like icewm which is minimal but still has features.

trust me, if you install a 32 bit distro, it will be a much lighter experience by default.

>>107037813
Is "vulkaninfo32" something you're even supposed to have? I play 32 bit games just fine and I only have "vulkaninfo"

32 bit should be mandatory for computer with less than 4 gb. a 32-bit PAE kernel can use more than 3 gb of ram. maybe even default on many on 32 bit distros

>>107038058
Its to do with flatpaks sandboxing from what I understand flatpaks need runtime extensions because they are so sandboxed and dont have access to barely anything and it has to be bundled with the flatpak.

where as things like steam or heroic appimage are unrestricted so they can use your system files and have pretty much access to a lot of things as well as your bulkan drivers in /usr

But it also makes them unsafe because you cant manage permissions, cut off internet or restrict access. This is important when running pirated games, as a safety measure because there is malware for linux

>>107038016
>no gamepad support
ouch. and lutris doesnt have it easier.

I really don't want to use steam with boilr but its the most streamlined option but steam is proprietary and I dont want to use their platform

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New daily reminder!
use qemu directly. virtmanager and virsh fucking suck.
that is all.

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>>107038129
>and lutris doesnt have it easier
Not sure if 32 bit source games in particular have specific gamepad issues but lutris flatpak is plug and play in my experience.

>>107037030
friend finally woke up and told me to use mouseless+xdotool and i did so

>Kwrite sees highlights underscores as misspellings
Any way to change this behaviour? It should treat underscores as spaces

>>107035500
Is there a way to shut off fans on linux mint? I have 1 fan making a loud buzzing noise and I'd like to turn them off to see which one it is.

>>107038635
between typing and posting the noise went down by half, maybe if I just keep running my computer it'll stop? I'm not actually going to do that but it's a thought.

>>107038651
That's because the bottom intake fan is apparently no longer spinning.

>>107038651
>>107038664
nevermind, a couple of resets and it just fixed itself, bizzare...
So how do I fix the grub booter with ventoy? I can boot up and get into ventoy but no one really talks about how to use it as a rescue disc to rebuild your grub booter on youtube. Should I just boot into the usb or is there a selection in the install screen I should select? I have my data backed up.

>>107035500
I fucking hate ubuntu.
does anyone know how to run multiple chromium profiles with this snap bullshit? after using chrome from other repos for many years, I updated my server... and apt replaced chromium and firefox with the snap versions.
using the --user-data-dir flag gives me
>Failed to create a ProcessSingleton for your profile directory. This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes rather than opening a new window in the existing process. Aborting now to avoid profile corruption.
alternatively, what's a sane and safe way to install firefox and chromium debs to replace this snap piece if shit?

inb4
>brave

>>107038705
I'm running chromium with multiple profiles, let me check to see if I'm on snap real quick.

>>107038705
>>107038722
I'm running on a system package, why are you on a flatpak? What's your neofetch and if you are patient enough I'll get back with you. I'm trying to solve a missing grub file problem and I can easily slap w/e your running in ventoy real quick and test it out for you.

Does anyone have experience migrating from an intel processor to arm? I'm trying to seemlessly migrate a website because I don't want to be up at night.
running deb 12.x to ubuntu 24.10

>>107038728
>migrating from intel processor to arm?
The program or the processor because you can't do the processor.

>>107038747
I have a VM refusing to migrate properly
We installed new hardware but it seems like there's an issue
It's just a pain in the neck making it all again

>>107038765
what's the migrating error?

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>using firefox

My machine recognizes my phone, but doens't mount it so I can share files, what is wrong here?

>>107038774
Fatal doublefault

>>107038799
check to make sure your phone isn't defaulting to charging, fi it's an android you need to select "data storage' when its plugged in and it will allow your computer to access the files, if that doesn't work you'll need to download an translation program that can communicate between the two.
If you trust bluetooth you can also try to use KDE Connect.
As for apple I've never used one so I don't know.

>>107038367
No I'm talking about the UI gamepad support shouldve clarified that, heroic has gamepad support navigation for the UI

>>107038806
Yeah so guess what you get to do? You get to remake the whole VM in ARM64 and then migrate the data over, YAY!!!

>>107038831
set and forget, I'm sure you can make it work once. after the first time you have it.
I've only had problems with lutris when it was a me problem

>>107038837
FUCK
I was worried about that
It's fine to do, but downtime is a bitch

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gosh darnit

>>107035500
Is it possible to get the Epic games launcher running on Linux? If so, which distros would be best?

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>>107038859
I need lutris to have controls like this. I dont want to use steamOS

>>107038705
>>107038722
I actually made a mistake in my post. yeah, I can run multiple profiles, but previously I was loading profiles directly from some dirs with --user-data-dir, and that shit doesn't work now for some reason. also, I can't find the path for new profiles. they are supposed to be in ~/snap/chromium/, but there is nowinth new, even after creating a couple of new ones.

>>107038727
>I'm running on a system package
it's a snap package. ubuntu 22.04 LTS

>flatpak
??

>>107038799
your system or your DE probably lack the correct packages for mounting PTP/MTP devices.

>>107038943
>hey are supposed to be in ~/snap/chromium/, but there is nowinth new, even after creating a couple of new ones.
if your creating them in terminal you need to pay attention to where you are when you create them, they might be dumped in your home folder or they might be whatever folder you were in when you made them.
>>107038943
>it's a snap package. ubuntu 22.04 LTS
...Where did you download that from...? Check the chromium website or your software manager for a system package.

>>107038943
>>flatpak
>??
Oh, and a flatpak is basically a snappak, I'm sure their are different in some way, but they are both sandboxing packages.

Whelp, I tried to run the boot repair on mint, didn't work, time to archive 1 more thing and move other to a different OS now. I was hoping to learn how to repair a grub just incase it happened again but a lot of the youtube material around it is kinda trash. I guess I'll never know why Mint 160 didn't boot but Mint 159 did.

>>107038937
lutris does what you're asking for as near as I can tell

>>107038975
>if your creating them in terminal you need to pay attention to where you are when you create them
I created the new profiles from cjhromium itself. the ones I want to recover were created "by hand", i.e., by passing the path for a new profile to chromium in the command line.
my current problem is that I don't know where this piece of shit stores the new profiles, or how to "import" the previous profiles to the snap version. I want to load them from a script, but snap is such shit... chromium won't run my profile if I pass its path in the CLI.

>>107038975
>...Where did you download that from...?
anon... have you been living under a rock? ubuntu moved chromium and firefox from deb to snap years ago:
https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition

it's the reason why only now I moved to the (previous) LTS release. 22.04 means "released on april 2022"

>>107039015
what's the scenario, how did you update grub?
grub is just a bootloader and it works. I've broken mine by modifying fstab in the past.
it's reasonable to get your old mint insall back.

>>107035500
What are some good testing batteries I can do on live images to find the most efficient OS?

>>107039067
get a load tester on ali.

>>107038728
>migrating from an intel processor to arm
Why? What are you doing? Why is ARM better than x86 for it?

>>107039116
mods cut the fun parts
It's a requirement
I'm ok with no solution

>>107038728
i run ngnx on an rpi. works fine for my local website serving security cam footage and redirects to my server dockers. I don't use TLS though.

>>107039138
I'm thinking of moving to nginx, I run some things off of it already

I'm planning a really cool FX-8350 build. I'm worried about sound, the PC will have Via VT2021 onboard sound and a Sound Blaster SB0670 PCI card

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>>107037962
>>107037813
FINALLY. OP here of this heroic games launcher problem. I fixed it.

SO AS IT TURNS OUT, heroic games launcher flatpak for whatever reason needs the 23.08 version for all the runtimes for the latest release on flatpak, including the old 23.08 for 32 bit. Otherwise it won't run 32 bit source games.

New runtimes like 25.08 only work for 64bit, not sure if you need all the old 23.08 runtimes to run 32 bit games but I just installed all version just to make sure.

sudo flatpak install org.freedesktop.Platform//23.08
sudo flatpak install flathub org.freedesktop.Platform.GL32.default//23.08
sudo flatpak install org.freedesktop.Platform.GL.default//23.08

>>107039311
So virtually no one is running 32 bit games on Heroic flatpak, which is the official release? Seems like a huge issue to me.

>>107039348
From my test yea, I just downloaded the heroic flatpak, copied portal game folder to a directory heroic had access to and tried to play it and it gave me

 018c:err:vulkan:wine_vkCreateInstance Failed to create instance, res=-9 

endlessly

Then when I checked I had all the versions of these flatpak runtimes installed but they were 25.08, seems for 32bit only the 23.08 GL32 runtimes work for running vulkan 32bit on heroic for some reason maybe the latest release of heroic doesnt work with the new runtimes for 32bit.

Lutris flatpak worked fine so did faugus flatpak running 32 bit with nothing done to them.

>>107039311
This is so confusing. I still haven't been able to run gamescope with steam...and I tried all 5 of those flatpak versions.
Whatever.

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>moved from Fedora+KDE to Debian+Xfce because I wanted something more lightweight
>saw a lot of things saying that it wouldn't make much of a difference
>hurr durr unused RAM is wasted ram
>hurr durr swap is your friend
>your computer is using more resources to make itself faster :)))))
>Xfce boot is lightning fast compared to KDE
>Xfce uses as much ram with a youtube video open in browser as KDE did at idle and rarely uses any swap while KDE hogged it
>no perceptible difference in the speed of opening programs and no performance difference in games
>temps are actually a little cooler even
Is Fedora's packaged KDE just bloated to shit giving me a very biased experience or is my 5+ year old laptop just not new enough to properly take advantage of what KDE offers?

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Soon I will be switching 2 linoox but first I need more pengzilla wallpapers, post your pengzilla beast pictures. Also if you know a good free upscaler that reinterprets the picture that would be good.

>>107039392
KDE is just way too resource intensive for what it is. Hyprland is about the same in terms of performance and that has all sorts of eye candy.

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>>107039396
y not gondola?
gondola is frend

>>107039389
Like flatpak steam? I think you need flatpak gamescope. which would be

sudo flatpak install org.freedesktop.Platform.VulkanLayer.gamescope

All flatpak apps need to use flatpak packages. Same with mangohud, gamemode etc you need the flatpak versions for flatpak apps to use them.

For native apps, anything through the package manager you have to download the .deb package if you're on mint.
So it would be probably you would have to build it from their github https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope since debian or ubuntu doesnt package gamescope I dont think

>>107039423
I said I tried 5 flatpak versions of goyscope and it didn't work. Need to do more testing then.

>>107039205
nice
>VT2021
>SB0670
both should work ootb

>>107039064
I literally just updated the OS and then it stopped working.

is the nyarch maintainer a tranny?

>>107039466
I dunno but I'm thinking your on the edge of becoming one. Tranny

>>107039511
cant be im download mint instead

>>107035500
how the fuck do I open isos on ChachyOS?
In linux mint it would just mount them, but chachyos has no idea what to do with them.

>>107039861
Mount them in the terminal?

Any recommendations for autoclicker / macro recording software? There's barely any available for Wayland.

>>107039883
Use case?

>>107039861
cdemu

>>107036924
if you're going to install it on a pc that don't use legacy boot, you can format the usb to fat32, mount the iso and copy the contents onto it. windows 11 and some non-ltsc versions of 10 you'll need to use wimsplit to make that file under 4gb.

>>107039861
Lmao. Arch users are so cute.

>>107039877
how?
>>107039889
>cdemu
installed it, no idea how to use it
>>107039915
yeah, I don't get why it's not predone in chachyos but hey, expecting user friendliness on linux is foolish I guess.

>>107039996
like I try to use this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/CDemu
I installed the packages through the repos.
cdemu-client and cdemu demon.
This still gives me zero options to interact with it.
commandline shit isn't working or im too dumb to use it.
Advice on how to use cdemu?
I see there is a kde-cdemu-manager which I have no idea how to install either.

>>107039861
>>107039996

sudo mount /path/to/iso /mnt

Is there a reason you need CachyOS? There is absolutely nothing wrong with Mint for gaming or anything else.

Any Debian desktop users? Approaching a new version do you get tired of being so outdated? Do you see wish you had new features?
I installed it on a separate drive and it's good but I can't know how I'll feel in 2 years.

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Goiz Federpa 43 is out, is it any good?

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>>107040129
I don't know what file manager you're using but on pcmanfm I can right click an iso > open with > cdemu client or do picrel

>>107040269
The upgrade is currently broken if you have wine-core.i686 installed. Wait until it's fixed.

>>107040301
Classic Fedora

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>>107036924
>using `dd` to extract files

>>107040319
>extract
el retardo grande

>>107038705
>>107038943
Move your custom profiles to ~/snap/chromium/ (probably /current inside there, check where the working profile is).

>>107038705
Use Debian

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>>107040331
That's what he did, smartypants.

>>107040403
dumping a filesystem onto a storage device is not extracting an archive, retardo muy grande

>>107036952
Same

>>107040158
>>107040158
>Any Debian desktop users?
Yes
>Approaching a new version do you get tired of being so outdated?
No. I value stability and security. 2 years isn't a long time frame. It's the same cadence I use my cellphone. So every two years: New Debian version, and new phone.
>Do you see wish you had new features?
I get kernel and mesa updates from back ports, and other stuff from flatpaks. I'm not lacking anything, else I wouldn't use Debian.
>I installed it on a separate drive and it's good but I can't know how I'll feel in 2 years.
I feel good. Updated last month. I always update when the .1 release is out. Everything works.

>>107040434
It had the same outcome in this case, dumberino.

>>107040131
>Is there a reason you need CachyOS? There is absolutely nothing wrong with Mint for gaming or anything else.
mint shit itself for me, completely corrupted the filesystem.
so I had to reinstall the entire os, and though I might use something else than the thing that failed me.
so chachyos because it's supposedly well optimized for gaming.

>>107040286
default Chacyos shit? and no I didn't get any "open with" options with cdemu.

>>107039886
I want to automate moving the mouse along with mouse clicks. xdotool doesn't allow mouse movement on Wayland.

>>107040756
ydotool maybe?

>>107040733
Classic PEBKAC

>>107040306
It's because they somehow forgot to fix the upgrade logic for the wine package before releasing the update. Since in F43 you don't need the i686 wine anymore to run 32-bit Windows programs.

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>>107035900
Absolutely based, Debian is great

Fuck all these gamers with their Arch Linux and whatever. They'll say they need the latest packages to play the latest games, but games aren't a priority for me, because I'm not a child.

>>107041367
>fox and the grapes.jpg

>>107035900
Stable in Linux terms means it doesn't get updates, it doesn't mean it doesn't crash or have bugs.
Stable means it crashes the same way every time.

>>107041367
Debian is good for gaming though. It's running the same thing that makes 99% of games just work (GE Proton).

>>107041371
I don't know what this means
>>107041378
Fair enough, I have myself played games on Debian but I usually play older games. But I see people in this thread say that Debian's packages are too old for the latest games, so they prefer distros like Arch or Bazzite with more recent kernels and drivers.

>>107035900
>Debian marketing team redefining the word "stable"
Hilarious.

>>107041492
Debian/Ubuntu user here, my Debian PC and my Ubuntu PC both just work. Stable all the time.

>>107040780
Ydotool seems good, but absolute mouse movement is broken on kde and relative movement still requires some guess work.

>>107040702
no... it doesn't

>>107041378
Proton relies on your distro's vulkan implementation which in turn relies on both the kernel and the mesa gfx library (or your nVidia drivers if you're on nVidia). There have been several times where Debian (and Ubuntu/Mint) couldn't run hundreds of games or had performance issues for over a year until the latest OS version got released (and no, backports often don't fix anything).
Unless your game library works with whatever Proton version was released 2+ years ago, you would benefit from not using an OS that's using an update release schedule designed for servers instead of end user devices.
That said, this is less of an issue now. Currently, Debian has caught up with Proton 10 which supports pretty much every game that doesn't use kernel-level anti-cheat. But, if KLAC gets solved within some version of Proton, Debian users still risk being unable to play those games for up to 2 years. And while you can argue that "you shouldn't play garbage games", some people just enjoy garbage.

>>107041367
Debian is good unless a piece of software you rely on has a bug. You'll have to live with that bug for 2 years

>>107041594
Stuff that works now (everything) won't suddenly stop working. It's a non issue for me.
>and no, backports often don't fix anything
How?

>>107041594
You're full of shit, jesus christ.

>>107041643
>How?
Backports are there for critical bug fixes, security fixes and sometimes hardware compatibility. They almost never include new features. If they did then a "backport" would just be the equivalent of shipping the current package and just falsely tagging it as an older version, which would make no sense.

>>107041659
Everything is 100% correct, stay mad.

Hi. Im on opensuse tumbleweed. I can ping 8.8.8.8 fine but internet itself aint working. Cant load websites. However everything works fine on windows. What do?

>>107041722
Sounds like a DNS issue. Can you ping google.com?

>>107041367
>you have different priorities and wants than me?
>you're wrong fuck you

>>107041722
what's in /etc/resolv.conf

>>107041734
What do you expect? Linux is used by thousands of loud and obnoxious distro cultists. Just try saying "Debian sucks because of (insert legitimate reason)" and you'll see at least one person sperging out.

>>107041768
>Linux is used by thousands of loud and obnoxious distro cultists.
sure, and hundreds of thousands of regular people and technology enjoyers
>Just try saying "Debian sucks because of (insert legitimate reason)" and you'll see at least one person sperging out.
on the internet, you can say, i'm sure, quite literally anything at all and get some people mad about it

>>107041729
Nope!
>>107041735
Nameserver with my IP. (Or an ip, i dunno much about networking)

>>107041820
try changing that ip to 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8

>>107040301

Ah crap. I removed wine, upgraded then re-installed, am i going to be ok? Newbie here. Next time I'll wait a few days.

>>107041874
Only thing you should be updating asap is security, everything else you should sit on for a while before upgrading. The most productive people in computing whether it be photoshop, programming, making music, ect. They all use old workflows and programs for literal decades before upgrading because they are so used to the program that they can get what they needed to do done quickly, rather than floundering around and reading about the upgrade that needlessly moved everything around to justify an update or reselling the software to you again.

>>107041874
If the update was successfully applied then you're fine. If you don't want to worry about updates breaking something you can just use Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite.

>>107041637
If you need newer versions of programs you can install them with Flatpak/Snap/Homebrew/etc
>>107041734
I will give mutual respect to people who respect what I'm doing but people in this thread seem to hate on Debian as if it's useless when it definitely isn't.

>>107040756
>xdotool doesn't allow mouse movement on Wayland.
Then why do you insist on using it?

>>107041578
You know what... you're right. It actually wiped his existing files in addition to extracting the new ones.

>>107041594
Anon, Ubuntu has recent kernels and recent Mesa, even 22.04 which was released three and a half years ago is up to date.
>hundreds of games didn't work
Native games target Ubuntu and Steam uses the Ubuntu runtime for all games, so this is literally impossible.

>>107041917
>people in this thread seem to hate on Debian as if it's useless
Every distro has a group of people that hates it. Also, I haven't seen any hate against debian here. At least not in the current thread. Seems like 80% of posts discussing it are just praising it or saying "works fine on my machine" and 20% is fair criticism rather than name-calling or rage baiting. I don't see anyone calling it useless here.

>>107041917
>If you need newer versions of programs you can install them with Flatpak/Snap/Homebrew/etc
Unless it's a system component like a display manager. The only solution is to use backports and at that point the system will become so fragile that Arch is the saner option

>>107041594
>vulkan
I haven't heard about vulkan in a while, everyone is talking about mesa right now. Also, compared to 10 or 15 years ago, running things on linux has never been easier, I run a lot of windows games on my mint system, not once have I used Proton unless it's been directly packaged with the game. I run almost all my games through WINE CLI or Bottles.

>>107041973
"extraction", in the context of computing, refers generally to copying data from within a file, to another file
writing an disc image, as-is, to a disc, is not extraction, nothing was pulled out of the image, nothing changed, you didn't pull any of the files out of it
i can understand your confusion, however, by writing the image to the disc, now when you put the disc in you can see the files that were in the image, as it's being interpreted as a filesystem that can be mounted, so maybe you're seeing the files that were in the image and thinking you've extracted the image into those files, but you haven't. you're still just looking at the exact same image, just mounted

>>107042008
>Native games
that's only a third of all games, anon. and native games don't use proton

>>107042022
this. debian is ass for me since I want to use whatever the latest kde or gnome are

>>107042022
Anon WHY does a GOSH DARN display manager need to be bleeding edge?

>>107042029
>haven't heard about vulkan in a while, everyone is talking about mesa right now
Where do you think Vulkan and OpenGL implementation is? Hint: it start's with "me" and ends with "sa".

>>107041682
>>How?
>Backports are there for critical bug fixes, security fixes and sometimes hardware compatibility. They almost never include new features. If they did then a "backport" would just be the equivalent of shipping the current package and just falsely tagging it as an older version, which would make no sense.
So uhh.. you're saying the backported kernels in Debian stable are just Kernel 6.12 LTS but they change the version numbers?! And the mesa backports in Debian stable are the same version and contain the same features as the originally shipped mesa version?!
Would you like to buy a bridge from me?

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>>107042045
>Hint: it start's with "me" and ends with "sa".

>>107041973
>>107042031
-- or to think about it another way, if you attach that image to a loop device, and mount it, would you call that extraction? because that's closer to what's going on. you've made a copy of the image and mounted it

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>>107042031
>let me put my degree in hairsplitology to good use

>>107042042
Because apparently sddm still couldn't get its shit together after decades of development and was buggy as hell in debian 12

>>107042053
i'm never going to think of mesa the same way again

>>107042057
>Ever using a display manager that runs arbitrary code in /use
Good thing Debian maintainers disabled this shit so you can't get pwned by installing a custom global theme any more.

>>107042070
/usr I mean
Stupid autocorrect

>>107042050
>Backporting is the process of porting a software update that was developed for a relatively current version of a software entity, to an older version of the software. It is a maintenance activity of the software development process. Although a backported update can modify any aspect of the software, the technique is typically used for relatively small scope changes – such as fixing a software bug or security vulnerability.
>typically used for relatively small scope changes – such as fixing a software bug or security vulnerability.
>typically used for ... fixing a software bug or security vulnerability.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backporting

Are you genuinely confused on what a backport is or are you just jumping into a conversation out of context and have no idea what the discussion is even about?

>>107042056
i just really don't like oversimplifying things, it leads to confusion and restricts learning what's really going on.
i get it, i do, that when you do this is /looks/ like you've extracted the image, but if you let people believe that, they'll start wondering why their drive is now in iso9660 format and they can't write new files to it, or something. modern windows images are probably udf which does supporting writing, but then maybe they delete all the files and put something else on it and some other device doesn't like udf... but the drive worked before? i only "extracted" some stuff to it!.
no, i don't like to accept simplified answers, it only causes problems later.

https://packages.debian.org/trixie-backports/
>Linux 6.16
>mesa-vulkan-drivers (25.2.4-1

>>107042102
nta, but nobody in the real world cares. I will always continue saying WINE and Proton is emulation no matter how incorrect it is. Most people don't want to learn or care about semantics. People want clear, direct and short answers and discussions that are easy to follow.

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>>107042120
>more up to date than mint

>>107042089
A backport is a system component that has been retrofitted to the system. Are backported kernels not backports, huh?

>>107042161
I don't really care about who is ahead and who is behind because like all things Linux, you can have a perfectly working machine, update, then something breaks and you have to spend time fixing it. As long as everything runs as intended and I don't get lag or bugs, I'm fine.

>>107042134
It's actually important to point out that WINE isn't emulation because when you say it is, people start hunting for .shs or .exes. They think its an actual program and not a file system with .dlls to be referenced.

>>107042179
It doesn't matter neither does being on the latest kernel. How many times have you looked at the kernel updates and saw something that is a game changer for you?
No one needs the latest kernel. Everyone should just use Debian.

>>107042045
I haven't heard about OpenGL in a while either, only reason I remember it existed is due to some reference links that couldn't be ported over to the external.

>>107042189
I'm going to be honest, I don't even know what kernel updates do.

>>107042189
Kernel update backports in Debian undergo the trickle down process from Sid, so they're quite stable. Plus you always retain the LTS kernel anyway, so you can just switch back if it makes any problems.

>>107042219
nta, but how similar is Debian to Ubuntu or Mint? I'm aware that Ubuntu shares a Debian base and I think Mint has more Debian in it than Ubuntu does.

>>107042198
well for one they update all your drivers. if want to see news about new or enhanced kernel features, you'll need to actually go read about them, like check phoronix from time to time. you won't know unless you go look for it

Why did gaming suggestions for Linux go from Ubuntu to Fedora? Should I try SteamOS or is it literally a gimped system? I want my OS to still be a general use computer which is why I avoided OSs like Pop, Bazzite, and Nobara.

>>107041903
>>107041904

Appreciate the responses, thank you. I'll chalk this one down as a learning experience.

>>107042336
use whatever the fuck you want. I'd assume SteamOS is the best system for gayming, since (I assume) it's maintained by Valve itself.

>>107042432
Well I'm kinda floundering about with what to jump too. SteamOS is currently not out for general consumption apparently, just on the Steam Deck.

>>107042336
snaps, anything atomic is a gimped system

>>107042503
>SteamOS is currently not out for general consumption apparently
from google: https://old.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1kmiyh8/
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download?ver=steamdeck

>>107042512
Isn't BazziteOS atomic?
>>107042557
>https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/download?ver=steamdeck
>ver=steamdeck

>>107042336
>Why did gaming suggestions for Linux go from Ubuntu to Fedora?
Because Ubuntu directs people into using the LTS version which is less sufficient for gaming due to how outdated it becomes after a year. Usually it's not that big of an issue, but the 6-month release cycle of Fedora was much more convenient when it came to keeping up with all the gaming-related improvements after the announcement and release of the Steam Deck.
>I want my OS to still be a general use computer which is why I avoided OSs like Pop, Bazzite, and Nobara.
These are all general use distributions. Between these, Bazzite is just a better Nobara while PopOS is just a very outdated Ubuntu distro. The only thing that's technically not for "general use" is the "deck" version of Bazzite (which is not the default option).
>SteamOS
This is primarily a handheld gaming distribution and not a general use distro. It doesn't even support most hardware. It will never be a general use OS because Valve doesn't want to make it one. They want it to be a handheld and HTPC OS. If you're looking for a streamlined distribution that's similar to it then Bazzite is your best choice.

>>107042582
>Isn't BazziteOS atomic?
It is, and that's a good thing. Some people just have no idea what atomic means and they're just parroting misinformation either to gatekeep people out of Linux or to shill their favorite distro.

>>107042015
Fair but I think I've seen hate in the past
>>107042022
>>107042057
I used SDDM on Debian 12 for a long time and it worked fine for me

>>107042591
I'm currently on Mint, I've used Xubuntu in the past and I'm thinking about returning to it but I'm on the fence due to how the DE looks and maybe it's time to move on and try Debian. I'm hesitant to jump to Fedora, especially since I haven't tried Debian yet. I also have Lubuntu on the docket to try out again but it lost to Xubuntu last time. What's your opinon?

>>107042662
I also can't help but notice that Bazzite isn't on the Linux Distribution chart under Fedora for some reason.

>>107040787
dude, the fuck is your problem?
Why should the user jump through hoops to get basic shit working?
Why is this a norm on linux and why do people like you take pride in that shit.

>>107042735
They picked a distro that's entirely misaligned with their ethos and only chose it because they heard it was good for gaming.

Arch (and its derivatives) are not optimised for doing everything for you out of the box.

>>107042662
>I'm on the fence due to how the DE looks
Then spend 2 minutes changing it to another one and 10 minutes configuring it.

>>107042582
>>ver=steamdeck
anon... steamdeck is just amd64. why do you give a shit if it's made for the steamdeck or not?

>>107042285
Pretty much the same these days, minus snaps.

im currently on sway, but dwm is becoming really interesting. what real advantages would i get from it except for playing around with c and it being smaller? sure its x and not wayland, and theres also dwl but doesnt have as many patches. so in terms of functionality or performance (older laptop) any real benefits

>>107042735
Uhm... Maybe don't use Arch or any other DIY system then??

>>107042735
It's a steep learning curve, and frustrating when you are new. I had the same problem and I agree with you, but even if that is the case if you stick with it you'll learn a lot more about Linux and computing in general. There are easier to use Linux distros but they will almost all universally need to be tweaked via terminal at some point, whether its an update or you want to change a behavior of a program, you'll eventually have to use the terminal.
You could try Mint, Puppy, or the Ubuntu flavors if you want stuff that "just werks" but the kind of polish that Apple and Windows puts out on their OSes will be missing here because they don't have millions of dollars to pay testers for thousands to hundred of thousands of hours to test their OS to make sure its as perfect as possible.

>>107042662
If you're happy with Mint then I see very little reason to move away from it. Mint, Xubuntu and Lubuntu are pretty much the same distros. The only difference is the preinstalled DE and the fact that Mint themes both their Xfce and MATE edition to look very similar to their Cinnamon edition. Also the fact that Ubuntu flavors ship with Snaps while Mint removes and disables them.
I'd say if you want to be on Xfce then there's nothing wrong with sticking with Mint Xfce. That is, unless you want more updated packages which you'd get with Xubuntu 25.10.

>>107042723
what chart and why is the chart important?

>>107042933
Maybe I'll try Debian then
>>107040733
There is an Arch Wiki and an auto-installer if you want to use Arch, I think there is even a "Baby's First Arch"/"Beginner's Arch" distro out there.

>>107043031
Min 21.3 kinda murdered itself in an update and the GRUB no longer works unless I hold shift and boot up version 159. And a year or two of using Mint is almost gone by and I feel like it's time for a change.
>what chart and why is the chart important?
It soothes my autism and I like looking at it, I just found it weird that it isn't on there but other more obscure and dead distros and flavors are
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg

>>107043035
>Maybe I'll try Debian then
https://github.com/r0b0/debian-installer
I can recommend this installer here if you do. Sets up your system with systemd-boot, backports enabled, MOK UKI enrollment for secure boot with TPM support, novideo drivers and Flathub.

>>107043088
I'm going to try the Live OS first and test drive it for a couple hours or a day and see how I like it.

>>107043063
Because Fedora changed something foundational that Bazzite was using and it fucked everything up, I haven't been following it so maybe it was fixed or it never happened but I do remember seeing this article about it.
https://news.itsfoss.com/fedora-could-kill-bazzite/

>>107043157
They removed was going to remove 32-bit Fedora but was petitioned by a large part of the community who was in uproar about it so they didn't do it.

>>107043063
> just found it weird that it isn't on there but other more obscure and dead distros and flavors are
>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
That's mainly because Bazzite is based on Fedora Atomic just like Silverblue, Kinoite, etc. They're not technically considered separate distributions. They're all the same distro (Fedora), just with additional layers of modification on top of an already existing Fedora system. Even in their marketing the Universal Blue team often states "these are not distributions, these are Fedora images" when referring to Bazzite, Aurora, Bluefin.
It's basically how distributions should be handled, rather than the half baked bullshit we've done for the past 3 decades.

>>107043176
Yeah but Aurora is actually on there though if you search it

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It's actually crazy how big the Debian ecosystem is compared to other Linux core Oses. It's so big that you can't even zoom out to encompass it all unless you save it as a png to edit. Debian has to be at least 60% of all Linux distros out there.

>>107043213
Rices and slightly different default configs should maybe not be classed as distros

>>107043244
What if they use multiple package systems?

>>107042591
>Some people just have no idea what atomic means
It means any non-trivial deployment requires writing recipes for what would be straightforward alterations in a normal distro. In the long run you waste more time fighting with it than it saves.

>>107043157
This was a nothing burger. 32bit will die completely within the next few years. Fedora maintainers just wanted to discuss the timeline and the person starting the thread assumed everyone would be ready by the end of next year. Which would be a very tight schedule considering gamers are waiting on Proton 11 to drastically improve 32bit support with it's WOW64 implementation which was started in Proton 10. Steam can already be run under Flatpak so it was never an issue. And Valve is going to create a 64bit client sooner or later anyway.
The only problem specific to Bazzite is it's HTPC/handheld image (bazzite-deck) which uses the same Big Picture mode as the Steam Deck. And the Flatpak version of Steam doesn't support using the Steam client as your "desktop environment". I'm not sure how many people are using bazzite-deck compared to the regular desktop version, but I don't believe it's the majority. So it wouldn't make sense abandoning the project just because a chunk of the users wouldn't be able to use the Steam client as their DE.

>>107043191
It's not the same Aurora. This is the Fedora image: https://getaurora.dev/en
The AuroraOS that's in that graph is some Russian abandonware.

>>107043213
It's the easiest one to make a distro of since it only introduces breaking changes once every 2 years. So any script kiddie can easily make their own distro out of it by just changing some pre-installed packages and configs. Also, Ubuntu was the first relevant consumer Linux distro so a lot of people flocked to it as a base for their own distro.

>>107043267
>It means any non-trivial deployment requires writing recipes for what would be straightforward alterations in a normal distro. In the long run you waste more time fighting with it than it saves.
How can you be so confidently wrong?

>>107043277
amazing rebuttal, bazzite tranny

i'm thinking of doing an x32abi (not ia32), -Os build of gentoo on my old laptop just to see how small it can go. anyone tried this?

>>107043323
I don't need to make a rebuttal when a single web search proves you wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_commit

I've written a bot in C#. I'm quite pleased with it and I'm planning to have it run 24/7 on my raspberry pi.
The only problem is that the program takes control of the terminal while I run the pi as a headless machine through ssh.
I've been running the bot in a screen instance in the meantime, but it feels like a workaround and not a solution.
What is the proper way to do things? Honestly, I don't even know if this is something that should be addressed in the code or at the os level, any suggestion would be appreciated.

I have an issue I've been trying to solve for a while.
I have a Peacock subscription and I've been trying to figure out how to watch it over my web browser, except none of the web browsers work with Peacock on Linux because Peacock refuses to run if your OS is Linux.
I can solve this by deploying a VM, but I don't want to do this because I don't want to put another GPU into my system right now. Does anyone have a way to bypass this DRM shit? It has to be Javascript so there must be some way to bypass with a userscript right?

>>107043397
if you need to be able to interact with it later from a terminal, then yes, run it in screen or tmux
if you just want it to run as a background service, make a systemd unit for it

>>107043415
Is this just a website? You can use a browser addon to change your user agent. Just copy your user agent from your Windows VM and paste it into the addon.

>>107043440
They do more than UA checks. They also do an OS check that's not based on UA.

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>>107043270
>The AuroraOS that's in that graph is some Russian abandonware.

>>107043270
>This was a nothing burger. 32bit will die completely within the next few years.
If that's true I should get ontop of my retro backlog then.

>>107043415
i don't use any encrypted media websites, so i haven't tested any. peacock likely uses widevine, so you'll need a web browser with widevine support, such as chrome or firefox (not chromium or most if not all firefox derivatives). even then only the weaker form of widevine will work on linux, so not everything will likely give you the best options. on windows/macos they use trusted platform module hardware as part of their attestation of your system, basically it's similar to kernel anti-cheats in that the chain of trust goes down to hardware you don't control

for me, even if i was paying for that, i would just torrent the shows you want to watch, then you can watch them in any quality and with any media player you like

>>107043270
>Also, Ubuntu was the first relevant consumer Linux distro so a lot of people flocked to it as a base for their own distro.
Also for the Linux gaming boom but I guess Canonical fucked that over with snap and everyone moved to Fedora. Though, maybe Fedora devs just do it better since they are moving into the gaming space now as well.

>>107040733
I guess cachy comes with dolphin by default, check settings>configure dolphin>context menu>services, if nothing shows up you'll have to create a custom action or just install pcmanfm

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>>107043471
It's not just Widevine. The request literally sends a header named

sec-ch-ua-platform

which gets set to Linux regardless of User Agent.

Here's an example curl that I ripped from the dev console where my UA was switched to Firefox on Windows.

>>107043415
>>107043471
oh and yes, i do realise how ironic it is that it's easier to "pirate" shows than to pay for them

>>107043503
I have a premiumize sub so whether to pirate or not is not really relevant. I'm just tilted I can't use the service I get from my ISP to watch live local news in my browser (but I can on my phone). If I could pirate live local news I would.

>>107043501
yea, i'm sure there's a lot more to it than i know. i have access to my roommate's streaming accounts, but i don't touch them, not interested in jumping through their hoops to probably only get minimum quality. my internet connection is fast enough that i'll just download anything i want to watch ahead of time

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>>107043455
The Aurora that you're looking at is some project from 2001-2009 which seems to be "merged back" to Fedora. The Fedora Atomic image named "Aurora Linux" is a project not older than a couple of years. Fedora didn't have atomic distros until 2018.

>>107043522
Okay, and now I know what that line means.

>>107043517
>but i can on my phone
maybe try scrcpy?

I've been using Kubuntu Minimal for a little over a month and I find Linux to be quite enjoyable, however I've been curious about other distros amd keep getting CachyOS suggested to me. Should I swap over?

>>107043535
Already know that works, I just think that screen share to do it is fucking stupid.

>>107041367
>>107041917
Literally no one ever shits on Debian, I think we all agree it's good when used as intended. But Arch and derivatives on the other hand are always the target of shitpost, literally your first post was shitting on Arch and its users for no reason. The funny part is I could say the exact same thing you said
>but people in this thread seem to hate on Debian as if it's useless when it definitely isn't
but with Arch instead, and there will be anons shitposting on it just "for the lulz".

>>107043547
I wouldn't waste the breath if I'm being honest. The era of everyone being an asshole because they use Linux or a certain esoteric and/or niche distro is over. Why can't we all get along despite our use cases and occasionally shit on each other for fun?

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>>107041367
I like and use both

>>107043537
CatchyOS is the flavor of the year/month/half a year. If you go on distrowatch, CatchyOS is number 1 or 2 on the list. I don't really know why but it seems that it's the current marketing/meme campaign going around. Ubuntu, Arch, and Gentoo all had similar eras and it remains to see if CatchyOS will still be talked about in a year or two.
>tl;dr: take a heavy handful of salt and try the demo, be critical, have fun.

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>>107043587
OFFICER ARREST HIM!!!!

Also, I 100% agree with this picture, a lot of distros need to try better to be graceful when they boot and shutdown. It's not the end of the world and it doesn't mean I won't use an OS because of it, but when you are talking to people who are curious about trying Linux it doesn't help when the first impression they see is an ungraceful boot an the last thing they see is an ungraceful shutdown. It makes them think that the OS is unstable as fuck.

>>107043605
That's retarded. If you have startup or shutdown issues that's a driver problem. Most likely because your hardware went picked for Linux. No distro goes 'ok, shutting down. kill -9 in all fields.'

>>107043721
>'ok, shutting down. kill -9 in all fields.'
No one said this...

>>107043418
Thank you anon, I've been reading about systemd and I think this is exactly what I needed.

>>107043383
Ok retard now extrapolate that to a whole operating system and what does it mean? Does it mean you can just edit any file in /etc and not expect it to get wiped? Why not?

>>107043746
That's what >>107043605 directly implies. kill -9 is the only signal that doesn't allow the receiving program any opportunity to run a handler.

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I got an old SSD so I decided to try Linux
>burn CashyOS onto USB pen
>turn of computer and remove Main drive
>connect old SSD
>install Cashy
>turn of
>connect Main drive
>only Cashy SSD shows

why can't I pick drives on the motherboard UEFI?
it doesn't detect both drives

>>107043793
>update system
>relevant to some tinkertranny obsessions around improperly handling system files

Check bios to make sure its detecting the correct HDD

>>107043925
you should work for gnome

>>107043898
forgot to reply to you >>107043932

>>107042591
>It is, and that's a good thing. Some people just have no idea what atomic means and they're just parroting misinformation either to gatekeep people out of Linux or to shill their favorite distro.
I don't want to install everything from Flatpaks though.
>>107042662
You can probably change your DE on Mint although I haven't tried that. I've done that on Ubuntu though. I just installed a new DE from the repos and changed some settings so it would boot with the new DE. Or if you want to go with Debian you can get images from them with different DEs preinstalled: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/

>>107043951
>You can probably change your DE on Mint although
I'm definitely getting off Mint, might go to Debian or might go to Xubuntu for a year then Debian, who knows.

>>107043951
>I don't want to install everything from Flatpaks though.
misconception. you can also use homebrew, distrobox or just install native packages like any other distro

>>107042795
>>107042950
>>107042950
>Uhm... Maybe don't use Arch or any other DIY system then??
>just don't use linux
what a solution! wow, great!
>There is an Arch Wiki and an auto-installer if you want to use Arch,
yeah? I used it to install chachyos, now how do I get ISOs working?
>>107043020
yeah, but why is getting an ISO unpacked such a big task.
Like there should be a step by step explanation to do it at least so retards can follow along.
>>107043488
>I guess cachy comes with dolphin by default,
Yep thats the file manager as far as I can tell.
> check settings>configure dolphin>context menu>services,
Thanks I will try that next time
> if nothing shows up you'll have to create a custom action or just install pcmanfm
and hopefully those are easier?

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>>107040269
oh nice, I'm still gonna wait 1-2 weeks before installing it.

>>107044081
The custom action is just creating a text file but yeah it should work out of the box with pcmanfm or really any file manager that's not dolphin (it's a kde thing, the other ones just rely on mime associations)

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>Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called "testing"), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable.
think im just doing debian testing for testing for now in some spare old nuc pc for now.

>>107044081
>yeah, but why is getting an ISO unpacked such a big task.
I'm assuming you mean installing? It shouldn't be hard if you are using the distros I mentioned, Arch is autistic and will literally ask you about anything and everything. I'm too lazy to go back up to see if you are actually installing Arch, but Arch is infamous for its install procedure, so much so there are now auto-installers for it that both people new to Arch and veterans use because they don't want to spend a couple of hours to a whole day installing the OS.

>>107044081
youtube is your friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKGrUIPVuc0

>>107044081
I'm not trying to be mean but if you are struggling this much with installing CatchyOS you should try Manjaro or EndeavorOS if you are set on running Arch. Neither of these OSes are "beginner friendly" but they are way easier to deal with than Arch and some of the other forks.
I've seen people say that AcroLinux is for beginners but it isn't, its just more user friendly.
I don't really know what OS to recommend you before transitioning to Arch as I've never used Arch and while I'd like to move to Arch, I'm kinda lazy right now.

>>107044287
Make sure to read the Debian wiki page for Testing..

Does Cinnamon have good tiling support? I'm thinking of switching to Mint because I'm kind of getting annoyed at arch updates randomly breaking something, though I do love using tiling window managers like hyprland.

>>107044444
checked

>>107044602
>Does Cinnamon have good tiling support?
Not really, no.
>getting annoyed at arch updates randomly breaking something
Fedora has a Sway and i3 spin. Although only Sway has an atomic version.

>>107044602
Cinnamon is just your typical run of the mill windows environment. You can always install https://i3wm.org/
Nothing stops you from customizing the installation.
Mint has its own issues with packages but this sort of depends what do you want to do.

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/usr/share/cachyos-fish-config/cachyos-config.fish

## Set values
## Run fastfetch as welcome message
#function fish_greeting
# fastfetch
#end

>>107043988
Say I want to install ffmpeg. On a normal distro I can just run `sudo apt install ffmpeg` or `sudo dnf install ffmpeg`. I like Homebrew but I'd have to set that up before I could install ffmpeg. It's just an extra step. And I don't see what advantages I would get from using an immutable distro.

>>107045072
>rpm-ostree install ffmpeg
So what's your issue with this aside from having to reboot to apply the installation?

>>107045186
>having to reboot to apply the installation
I didn't know that was true and I instantly hate it

>>107045072
>On a normal distro I can just run `sudo apt install ffmpeg` or `sudo dnf install ffmpeg`.
and fedora atomic are normal distros too, so you can just run `sudo rpm-ostree install ffmpeg` if you want to
>I don't see what advantages I would get from using an immutable distro.
stable updates, other distros put you in front of a manual when it's time to upgrade to the next version and you're expected to handle any package conflicts manually. fedora atomic just perpetually updates without you even noticing there's been a major upgrade

>>107045234
>fedora atomic just wipes your shit without asking
ftfy

>>107045485
you're thinking of Windows

what is the most reasonable option for a dns server? or none? i dont wanna use google since you know google.

>>107045569
AdGuard or Quad9

>>107045545
wow people who advocate dumb shit on linux can't administrate windows correctly either
i've never seen that before

>>107045569
Cloudflare

>>107042414
It's just they fucked up the dnf upgrade logic and you had to manually uninstall packages like you did.
There's no general need to updoot to the newest Fedora version right away, as Fedora supports the previous version until the next version comes out. So Fedora 42 is supported until Fedora 44 launches.

>>107045593
>AdGuard
Made by Russians and therefore probably spying on you
>>107045646
Acceptable choice

>>107045691
All of them are spying on you. What are Russians going to do with that info when all the ad companies have them embargoed?

New thread >>107045697

>>107045569
Mullvad, Dnsforge

>>107045569
Make your own with bind it's not difficult

>>107045633
Only unemployed tinkertrannies think Atomic systems are dumb.

>>107045973
What do they solve that Debian didn't thirty years ago?

>>107046000
system updates which don't randomly break or require manual intervention

>>107046052
They don't do either if you punt everything to a 3rd party ABI like you're using an immutable distro. Your lack of discipline is not my problem.

>>107045973
>>107046000
>>107046052
>>107046491
>update debian
>something fails halfway
>try updating again
>"no, you need to open the terminal and run this command first"

>update immutable distros
>something fails halfway
>try updating again
>success

>upgrade debian from 12 to 13
>have to become a system administrator

>upgrade fedora kinoite from 42 to 43
>just works

debtrannies can't defend this

>>107046627
Debian is apparently calling XLibre nazis as well for some reason

>>107046627
When did that happen to you?

>>107046662
Oh and Fedora is calling people Nazis as well... For some reason...

>>107046662
>>107046677
its well known that open source has really bad mental health, my advice is to ignore it and frankly don't donate to any of them.

>>107046662
>>107046677
almost every open source project has terminally online leftist extremists running their social media and moderation

>>107046662
>>107046677
>>107046700
Source?

>>107046721
This popped up in my feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00EPajdGrdY

>>107046739
No I am not watching that. Give me an official text source or fuck off.