Hundreds of thousands of jobs are being lost in the US alone this year.It's only going to ramp up, and it'll be millions in the upcoming years.Why is AI a good thing again?
>>107040250>Why is AI a good thing again?it's not but techniggers deserve it
It's due to tariffs, not AI.
>>107040250Now show how many H1B do they bring in. Also US economy is generally in horrendous shape right now, it just looks good because AI investments are counted as part of GDP.
>>107040352Hwat's stopping people who dislike AI from writing (asking a chatbot to write) a script that asks prompts that produce long, nonsensical responses, one after the other?
>>107040387If you want to waste their tokens as much as possible you would need to use agents, and to use agents you need to pay for the API. And even just wasting their money manually or with shitty script you would be doing basically nothing aside from wasting enormous amounts of electricity, and lot of people who hate AI don’t want to waste electricity out of protest.
So thats it? No riots? No hacking? Nothing?You guys are not going to kill yourselves are you?Theres the suicide hotline. Theres also backpages if you need a hooker. Its legal nobody its going to prosecute it this day.
>>107040408I'm confident you could easily net a loss for OpenAI even paying for agents. They literally don't make money on any level of their payment plan.
>>107040451Bros theyre laying off all this people with the chatbots corporations are paying for it dummy.
>>107040250A job does not have an inherent value. It is a headache for the employer but more importantly it is a non stop suffering for the employee. The only people who say jobs are good are people who don’t work. If companies can make their money without relying on having people waste their time before shit screens for 8 hours a day it will be awesome. That said, money is necessary and some compromise like a minimum wage UBI with cut social welfare programs as a tradeoff could be done. Work sucks though, and many people would prefer not to work even if it means s their income drops.
>>107040451Idk, sure they are a money pit but a money pit that investors believe in, so when they run out of cash because everyone is genning too much sora ragebait videos Sammy will just go on his 18th fundraising round talking about how he will cure cancer while Google Deepmind does the actual cancer research using AI that every nigger company claims to be doing. Oh, did you know that Google Deepmind, NVIDIA and few Chinese companies are the only AI companies producing AI models that aren’t just slop generators?
>>107040473Niggers like you assume that UBI is this victory condition for humanity that we can only achieve once we have everything automated, but it’s the other way around. People figured out that too much automation will eventually cause massive societal problems and one of the solutions to this was UBI. But we don’t need to all lose jobs to make UBI happen, we could have UBI right now if we elected government that promised that. And the economic problems with UBI now would still happen in the future when everyone is jobless.
>>107040370AI is an excuse for cheap Wog labor.
>>107040250if transformers-based math can replace your job, you deserve to be replaced.also the reason for that decline is in the picture and an ai it is natural stupidity, not artificial intelligence
>>107040502But UBI is communism o algo.
>>107040563European countries have shown that retirement payments are not sustainable. How the fuck would extending it to the entire population work?
>>107040334Its partly due to AI as well even though its not the biggest factor
>>107040352>anon is too retarded to know about rate limits
>>107040250This is caused by typical GOP economic stuff, not AI. Executives are setting up for the golden parachute thing by squeezing their companies dry during this time of deregulation and open crony capitalism.
>>107040530Most people have bullshit jobs that don't really need to exist.99% of women shouldn't be in the workforce either.
>>107040250>thousands of jobs are being lostin the usa you can die homeless in your carthe only thing that matters is shareholder value line goes uplife will become hell but line will go up
>>107040250what makes you think AI has anything to do with it?
>>107040250laying off employees means less expenses, which means more money, line up, legal obligation to shareholders achieved
>>107040408>what are headless browsers?
>>107041652Chinks literally do this to coom to the webchatYou wont do more danage than that sorry buddyOpenai has infinite money and electricity because theyll get bailed out infinitely
>>107040250>line go downline go up though
>>107040678It's a fundamentally simple question:We have been told for decades now that productivity is rising, and GDP is growingSo where is all that money going? And why are we still working the same amount of hours per week?
>>107040250AI doesn't do shit. companies have just overhired, and now use AI as an excuse to bypass labor laws in mass layoffs.
>>107041711Productivity needs to rise by a lot to cover for an aging population that have pensions and start consuming more medical services as they get more infirm. 15% of French GDP is spent on pensions. Unless there is some radical productivity boost things are beyond fucked.
>>107041711>you make more money>govt print more money>govt give away the moneyJamal has it.
>>107040684We won't know that until the next boom cycle. The market is entering a downturn phase of the cycle. What do companies do when the macroeconomics are grim? They lay employees off. The simplest test here will be to watch what companies do when the next boom phase starts. If they start hiring again, it's reasonable to assume that AI didn't automate away all those jobs. If they don't, and especially if they continue laying people off, AI might be replacing people for real. Until then, watch the actual data instead of what CEOs are spinning.
>>107042040>Jamal has it.That doesn't seem to be the case.
>>107042066his dealer has it
>>107042066wonder how it looks if you break "white, non-hispanic" down into "white, non-hispanic, non-jewish" and "jewish".
>>107040250Jobs go down, stonks go up. Asset owners win bigly. Economy is now bifurcating between people who make money out of nothing and people who need to work for a living but can't (permanent underclass).
>>107040334>we specifically trained it to recognize the strawberry question, so now it's agi, give us all your money
>implying the us economy wasn't rotten and all the growth of last decade wasn't tied to financial speculation (that ends exploding)
>>107040250Big brother is coming :)
>>107041635You guys have cars?
>>107040273Is worse than that
>>107040478I'm sure there's an investment bubble surrounding AI, but it's silly to think there's no value being created. Do none of you use copilot or any other coding aides? AI has been super useful for me as a dev, both at work and in hobby projects.>>107041635>Line go upAutomation destroys jobs, and new jobs will have to be created. That will be true literally forever, and you can't reverse that trend. 130 years ago there was a huge industry surrounding the care and rearing of horses, and all cities hired people to light or extinguish street lamps all day. Hell, in the middle ages you could have a career literally carrying water in buckets from the nearest river to whatever inns, stables or castle kitchens who didn't have easy access to wellwater. Where do you think all those jobs went?You people cry about this like you aren't in a 100 times better position than package deliverers or taxi/truck drivers. At least the tech industry is being enhanced by AI tools rather than outright replaced by them.
>>107040250US is in effective recession, but saying these firings are due to AI make line go up a little bit for a little longer. Outside of AI hype things are grim and when that bubble pops.. welp. I hope you have physical gold anons.
>>107042839Ching chong chingback to your Chinese rathole. US economy is booming and everything about AI being a bubble are Chinese lies to destabilise their biggest competitor in AI
>>107042473But anon the economy is good because a select few people got low impact 100k+ jobs.Just ignore the medium income earner dealing with prices nearly doubling without the double in pay.
>>107040250thank donald zionjeet
>>107042066That's just because the older generation, the one who have large retirement funds, are mostly white, a legacy of our past demographics.
>>107042687The issue is similar to the dotcom bubble and crash. Sure websites DO have value, and they ARE the future. The thing is, you had 10 different companies creating the same website, for example newspaper.com or music.com, with the idea that in the future this site will be the single source of all news or music for the world. Then all 10 versions of these sites get individually value at their future maximum potential of world domination, when in reality only one of them could succeed, and in the end probably none of them succeeded to that level. The same thing is happening with AI products, where each one is inflating value as if they will all reach AGI god-level world dominance, when only one can succeed at that, and in reality none may.
>>107040250It's cute how you wanted to prop up your AI scam by pretending those jobs were replaced with AI.
>>107040250FIRE ONE MILLION
>>107040250>good thing is infinite growthThere shouldn’t need to be more than a billion people in the world, quality of life and sustainability takes such a massive hit. If we’re building machines that take away the need for tedious labor I’m all for it.
Mutts blame everything on da ebil Artifizials intelligents n shieet lmaoNone of them produce anything besides turds but itz da AIz in de internetz mang messin wid da economiz n shieeet, no mo ebtz fo me 7 chilrunz dey ebil witeyz fault
>>107040250AI as in Actually Indians?
>>107042058To me the low hiring before the holiday season begins feels like an indicator that it might be due to gains in productivity from AI has reduced pressure for new hires despite growth. However, there are multiple variables at play and it is conclusively confirm or rule out impact of AI
>>107040457Insignificant compared to the massive debt they took on (muh future growth) the whole sector is cartoonishly overpriced and inflated
>>107043001When did laymen catch on to the bubble, and how did they respond?
>>107040250Maybe there was a reason for the deportations after all.
>>107040447>You guys are not going to kill yourselves are you?Actually, yes, I am
>>107040447normal people will look for other work before crying it's over, flipping out and shooting peopleThat's part of what separates the normal, make-do fags from the dramatic i-am-owed chuds
