Linux is solved by starting over and not being autistic trannies not making another distro

>>107043908
Nah the solution is in the op

If you kill troons and pedos, you don't need to solve Linux!

>>107043974
Are the troons and pedos in the room with us?

>>107044001
Yes, I am here. I'm also not going anywhere.
>>107043891
never heard of it, why would I want to use this over all the other distros? Why not use Gentoo?

>>107044043
Because it is an unbreakable system that works OOTB without manual updates. Everything runs in the background.

>>107044074
But it's based on Fedora, right? So I'm forced to deal with Wayland and it's compositor (and the annoying cap). There's no such thing and as unbreakable system and that term would not be appropriate for a Fedora based system (which is known for adopting new technologies quickly), that would be more appropriate for Debian.
>works OOTB
so does a bazillion other better-known distros, each having better support services in place. it doesn't make sense even from a business perspective.
>without manual updates
automatic updates are an awful idea, why is this a plus?

>>107044128
This is perfect if you get shit done on your system instead of being a tinker tranny all day.

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>>107043891
honestly yes ublue makes the system practically unbreakable and maintenance-free

how does their rice/config work tho? that shit isnt included in the system image so if they add/change shit like new programs in their config script do you get that when you upgrade images?

>>107044265
No it isn't, nice bait.

>>107043908
>Nooo you can't have a bunch of distros which are uniquely suited to different niches. Everything HAS to be unified and it has to cater to normies all the time!! We're nothing without the normie consoomers on our side
kys

>>107044398
Shut up and get a job gentroon

>>107043908
it's not a typical distro. it's using OCI containers to distribute operating systems. aurora/bluefin/bazzite are a little too opinionated for my tastes so i just use the more obscure main images. i though about ripping off omarchy using wayblue for the lulz

>>107044342
you should, yeah.

>>107043891
I'm not sure how catering to people so retarded they can't even run Fedora "solves Linux".

>>107044128
You don't know what you're talking about

>>107043908
>you're a bunch of trannies because of <distro>
>so lets create another distro of linux
>but with a more universal standard approach
???????

>>107045680
wrong thoughalbeit

>>107043891
What is even the point of immutable/atomic systems? I mean outside of hocking Chromebooks/Steam Decks onto grannies/ children.

Like at the point where you learn what an immutable distro is, surely you are already tech literate enough where there's no real need to use one.

>>107045759
they exist in this weird space where its ok for the linux illiterate but quickly gets annoying for powerusers. i do use the kinoite image on a laptop i practically never turn on though because i can't be assed to maintain it like my arch machine.

>>107045759
>>107045779
also none of the docs online apply to them so if you're a newbie that wants to experiment, it's kinda ass

How's this any better than Debian with backports and flatpaks?

>>107045801
not getting bit by apt later on

>>107045809
Never happened to me

>>107043891
They unironically did, I feel like this is the modern ubuntu (ublue/bazzite) and the atomic nature just makes sense. Every serious company only releases immutable (Fedora Atomic, openSUSE microOS, SteamOS, Ubuntu Core and even Manjaro now) I hate the immutable term, because you can actually change stuff. And MacOS, Android and iOS are also like this...

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>>107043891
*solves windows*

>>107045843
I hope UB stays on top. They have a head start.

>>107043891
Sounds like a dick pill. Linux users having sex would solve a lot of problems.

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>>107045865
>solves der ewige jude

>>107044440
nta but I agree there's too much distro bloat. I have nothing against distroa when done right, like ubuntu (before canonical shat the bed), Mint, Fedora spins or Arch-made-easy distros. But there's too many distros that don't really provide anything of value and just add to scaring new users away by choice paralysis.
Most devs should just focus their efforts into bringing their fixes to Debian and Arch. Instead of making a whole new OS clone for a few niche changes.

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>>107046069

I've started using UB Bluefin for more than a week.
It's really just a successor to ClearLinux but everything just works.

>>107046082
>I have nothing against distroa when done right, like ubuntu (before canonical shat the bed), Mint, Fedora spins or Arch-made-easy distros.
This is what most people should be using yes. I always recommend Mint to newcomers migrating from Windows, even though I don't personally use it anymore.
>But there's too many distros that don't really provide anything of value and just add to scaring new users away by choice paralysis.
They exist, but new users shouldn't be concerned with them imo. I've been using Linux for 10 years, and it's been over 6 years since I switched distros. There are hundreds of distros that I've never even heard of and I don't care. I found one that works for me so I stuck with it.

>>107043891
its good BUT its too small/niche of a project for me to trust my fulltime long term desktop to. its the system im gonna use to log into my banks and finance and shit i dont trust it to some 3 dudes that do this as a hobby

>>107046579
i think fedora is definitely gonna do containers upstream eventually at least

>>107046579
If it ever becomes abandonware you can just rebase to a fedora image.

>>107044128
if you find a way to break silverblue that takes more than a reboot to fix be the worlds first and tell us

>>107046150
Do they still include a bunch of weird niche software that you'll never use in the base image?

>>107046889
if bluefin, yes. if you really mean the base images, then it's just fedora with rpmfusion, rpm-ostreed, a systemd flatpak autoupdate timer and a few Just commands for easier maintenance.

>>107045759
>>107045779
i dont think either of you understands how silverblue is supposed to be used

>t. bazzite user installing arch/ubuntu packages

>>107046915
When I rebased to bluefin a few months ago I remember it coming with a bunch of cruft I didn't want. Maybe they got rid of some of it.

>>107046579
>its too small/niche of a project
bazzite alone is literally one of the biggest distros by installs

>>107046646
what do you mean? silverblue has been running from 2018
>>107046795
ive rebased between fedora images a few times and it worked fine but according to the ublue docs rebasing to/from silverblue is 'not supported'.

idk maybe i just like the security of having a big team/corporation/long development history behing my main desktop os

>>107046926
Then why do you install an image thats specifically made with extra software? If you want kde just use kinoite if you want gnome just use silverblue.

>>107046947
>rebasing to/from silverblue is 'not supported'.
Right, but as long as you pin your last working image then you can still try it out safely and just go back if it's a bit fucky.
>>107046950
I wanted _some_ of the addons + the non-free codecs and drivers built in, but not some of the GUI cruft.

>>107046924
you still run into a bunch of edge cases by running shit into containers. systemd-sysext seems exciting though.

>>107046926
in that case what you probably really want is to rebase to silverblue-main or kinoite-main. i use kinoite because i can't stand the gtkfaggotry. i use kinoite to get away from gnome.

>>107046947
silverblue's been around for a while but the use of podman containers to ship it (which is what ublue is) was a prototype feature until recently. also "not supported" just means "don't bother us if it breaks".

>>107046976
>in that case what you probably really want is to rebase to silverblue-main or kinoite-main. i use kinoite because i can't stand the gtkfaggotry. i use kinoite to get away from gnome.
Yeah. I switched to kinoite and just set up VScode with the devcontainer addon and it suits me well.

>>107046976
>>107046998
Gnome is better solely because of the workflow. You can't convince me otherwise.

>>107046889
what is weird niche software?
containers are how bluefin is supposed to be used.

>>107047097
not him but i do think ptyxis is a retarded inclusion, especially for KDE

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>>107043891
pufferfish wit da big ass lip

>>107047097
>>107047122 This sort of thing.

>>107043891
>Universal Blue is a manufacturing process that focuses on community-driven sharing of best practices via automation to make awesome desktop and server operating systems. That's nerdspeak for the ultimate Linux client: the reliability of a Chromebook, but with the flexibility and power of a traditional Linux desktop.
what is this reddit-ass corpospeak bullshit. i will not use this and in fact if i meet anyone other than a janitor who works for this im cutting off their ankles

>>107047347
yeah that really turned me off at first too. their insistence on not calling it distributions is retarded too. its just webdevs being webdevs and being unable to write without buzzwords. all you need to know is that ublue is immutable (they hate this word too but this is what it is in practice) fedora shipped as containers. that's it.

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>>107044342
>remove-brew
Why the fuck does it have linuxbrew in the first place?
The dependencies it pulls in vs the system package manager are insane.
Discarded as trash.

>>107047710
yeah thats why i dont like the bigger images

>>107047476
it is not. it is people building a start up product to take to investors. how can you not recognize this pattern by now?

>>107047791
the repos are always there if it happens

calling it cloud native is just plain lulzy

>>107047951
yeah because that has always been helpful the last bajillion times this has happened

Bump

>>107044043
>Why not use Gentoo?
This is not a serious question.

>>107045759
>What is even the point of immutable/atomic systems?
Having an OS that is properly configured and works. Non-atomic systems are unstable and non-immutable ones are a pain to use in the long term.

>>107046579
>Fedora
>small/niche project
My nigger, this thing is just a customized image of Fedora. If you kill everyone involved in universal blue you'd still get perpetual lifetime updates directly from Fedora and you would be able to rebase your OS back to Fedora Kinoite or Silverblue.

>>107046926
>>107046950
You can rebase to the base Ublue image they use to build Bluefin, they just don't really advertise that. I too wish there was a more readily available image that didn't have the gimped codec situation.

>>107043891
Honest question: why would I use this instead of fedora silverblue/kinoite?