11.11 sale already started on Hifigo. Good thing if you're in Europe, you don't have to pay any duties or taxes (unlike when buying from Aliexpress).

Aful Cantor comes out to like $540 with discounts.

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So Dunu ITO is just a more V shaped version of the Softears Volume S (and with less mid bass). Looks like shit honestly.

remember to use PEQdB the best EQ software in the world

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Worth it?

>>107058958
NO. bass is total ass.

I'm looking for new wired earbuds, budget preferably under 100 and also available on amazon ideally. I've actually been using the oldschool apple earbuds for the simple reason of comfort, I can wear them all day and not be bothered at all. I value comfort more than sound quality, as long as the sound isn't too bad. When I actually care about sound quality I can use my full sized cans. Any rec's aside from the stuff in the OP? Thanks in advance m8's.

>>107059060
aight

>>107059061
Sennheiser IE200

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im saving up $.50 vouchers to get a tanchjim bunny for free thanks for reading my blog

>>107059075
I should have mentioned that I can't do iem style that seals with foam or rubber tips. I am easily prone to ear problems when I use those, unfortunately. Thank you for the response though, appreciate it.

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>>107058958
With a bit of EQ and proper seal, I find it has better bass than something like the Hype 4.
I prefer and use it more than the Hype 4 too.

>>107059269
Wow, might give it a shot then!

>>107059545
please look more into it...

>>107059545
I will warn you though, it might not end up being all that good. Midrange and treble isn't quite up to par with the Hype 4, EQ can fix it but it's not guaranteed you'll be able to achieve the same results I got.

>>107059566
>>107059593
Ok, I was hoping the mids would be the star of the show. But will probably order it anyway since it's 80 bucks.

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>be me
>buy chu 2
>ok wanna upgrade nyao
>buy Zero RED because it's twice the price and should be twice the performance
>mfw Zero RED tuned like muffled compressed garbage
>mfw Zero RED distorts at higher volumes on my dac amp... volumes my Chu 2 can easily clear
>mfw never trusting CrinACKle ever again.

Which brand has the cutest anime girl covers for their products? I'm not kidding, I've been buying Moondrop for this reason exclusively, but what else is out there?
>Use case? Budget?
Regular PC usage, under 100

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>>107060329
You can put whoever you want on EPZs.

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>>107060329
Dunu Kima 2

>>107060329
moondrop
>but what else is out there
all the rest either suck or unironic ai slop

>>107060384
Looks very cute
>130
I'll think about it
>>107060390
Shame, I'm running out of budget Moondrop products, I feel like their higher end stuff is wasted on me as I rarely listen to music. Great packaging though

>>107060362
Cool Braixen, where did you get it?

damn edc pro is so comfortable compared to my zero 2s i had
still waiting for GATEs though

>>107060730
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005008531089260.html

>>107060826
oh, is it resin printed? i have a bunch of 3d printers but I haven't bothered to learn how to paint. I see they have Meowscarada, I wonder if they have my wife Delphox.

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>>107060298
My set straight up broke after a month of use

>>107060298
IEMs have negative scaling, twice the price means half the performance.

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>>107060298
>>mfw Zero RED tuned like muffled compressed garbage
>literally same pos
>tuned like muffled garbage
Yeah I don't think it's tuning that was the problem here...

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>>107060298
>>mfw Zero RED distorts at higher volumes on my dac amp... volumes my Chu 2 can easily clear
meanwhile reality
again doesn't look like it's RED that is a problem

>>107060298
>>107061223
>distorting
>muffled
I suspect a meme amp with high output impedance.

>>17061225
Tbf if crinacle sent ASR a unit we all know it was better than the one we'd get as consumers

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>>107061378
eh...
it's not like this is the only distortion measurement we have

>THD discussion in 2025
bros are stuck in 1960

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how does asanos feet smell like

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comfort is king

Okay poorfags what's the best preference target: JM-1 or the new Harman MOA Average? Have you tried them? Why do you like one or the other? Give me your best opinions.
>inb4 EQ
shut the fuck up retarded fucking nigger

>>107062834
Fox target.

>>107062834
Target made for 10kHz resonance vs not a target. Decisions, decisions....

>>107062866
Comprehensible, you're still a nigger foxzo
>>107062895
They are used as targets so cope and dilate faggot

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>>107062834
>Harman MOA Average
not a target. if you want to use their MOA study look at clusters they got.
I personally think that JM-1 with 2018 OE harman filters is the best one for average fit POS (length modes around 7-8k Hz).
Something like daybreak should be good or natural for most people

>>107062953
>sample size of 36
Fucking Harman unlimited resources Samsung owned company cannot afford testing with more than 36 fucking employees?

>>107063006
they don't even use their research for their pos lol
I dunno why

who is this for https://kz-audio.com/kz-duonic.html

kz edx pro, kz castor pro or kz zvx pro? and does having a mic interfere with anything?

>>107062834
>preference target: JM-1
JM-1 is not a preference target. using it as one is equally stupid.

>>107063288
JM-1 is not strictly a target. It's neutral DF-field (as far as something can even be considered as such) for in ears. It should be used with filters and tuned to your preference

subbass so strong it gives me hart palpitations

>>107063321
to clarify further, it's reference, not preference.

unironically the anime girl on the box has more weight and meaning for the IEM than any graphschizo post

>>107063401
meaningless distinction

>>107063510
I think you know it's not and you're just playing the semantics game just to be adversarial.
and for what? you're actually wrong because the distinction is clear between reference and preference.

>>107063651
calm down it's a thread about earphones on a cartoon website

>muh not a target
lmaoing at your pathetic life know it all retarded niggers, I will keep using it as a target and you can lick my asshole, either answer my questions with your opinions on it or shut the fuck up, no one cares

>>107063726
I'm sorry for your class 3 affliction.

>>107063651
I wonder who ACTUALL started to play semantics hmm
>JM-1 is not a preference target. using it as one is equally stupid.
>to clarify further, it's reference, not preference.
that's actually playing semantics
retard
>and for what? you're actually wrong because the distinction is clear between reference and preference.
when you say jm-1 what do you mean exactly

>mr science save me from having to use my ears!

>>107063767
you really don't like being corrected do you? lol
I didn't even read all that because it's probably you still bitching. get back on topic

>>107058834
Looking for a pmp for listening to music in my pocket whether on the go or at home (ambient, ambient techno and gabber)
>Budget
Up to $5000

Here's the catch. I want something with physical controls, no touch screens. Can't seem to find anything decent. Best thing I can find is the Tecsun M-302 but it doesn't have a built-in DAC or amplifier, and also it's not made out of metal.

>>107063778
>you really don't like being corrected do you? lol
Why do you think you are correct?
>I didn't even read all that because it's probably you still bitching. get back on topic
I accept your concession I guess?

>>107063813
>Why do you think you are correct?
I corrected anon on describing JM-1 as a preference curve and you took it as an opportunity to fling shit. simple as. have a real conversation or shut the fuck up, really.

>>107062834
The brownest post of the thread award. Hifiendgame target has the highest rating in the largest study. Haven't tried it since I'm not brown and have my own target, with per-IEM adjustments.

>>107063942
>since I'm not brown
This retarded nigger thinks I don't know hes the fucking indian. Fuck off shill

>>107063953
Only browns care which target is "the best",

>>107063965
Only retarded niggers can't read the questions I asked and invent whatever shill bullshit they want.

>>107063973
You asked a brown question, you got a brown answer.
>I don't like the answer
Go back to India then.

>>107063910
That's not what I'm asking tho? Why do you think your interpretation of what JM-1 is is correct one?

>>107064079
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/rigs-curves-targets/#preference-target-or-not

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>>107059261
More 1bit
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>>107064105
by that definition JM-1 is a preference target

>>107064126
Only JM-1 with HarmanOE 2015 filters had a study about it. Not JM-1 you have access to.

>>107064160
more listening tests were done since then
jm-1 with 2018 harman filters is almost the same as SG target which is also highly preferred
aka you lost in your own retarded game of semantics congratulations
>Not JM-1 you have access to
what's that suppose to mean.

>>107064205
>almost the same
>semantics
I accept your concession.

oh wow
earphones archives changed normal harman filters for jm-1 to moa 2025 filters... which is fucking useless and retarded

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>>107064215
are you retarded?
look at them you braindead monkey

>>107064249
>them
Bro I understood that you lost the first time.

>>107064271
you didn't understand fuck
you sued EQ guide which literally calls jm-1 a preference target and then tried playing semantics again lol
actual fucking idiot. Use chatGPT for your next reply I'm tired from your braindead shit.

>>107064285
Point me in the guide where it says "being almost like soundguys target means it's a preference target" please.
>literally calls jm-1 a preference target
>>107064160

>>107064019
Ok you really made this about race over some innocuous target question, you need to take some meds and have some sunlight, dont shit up the general unnecesarily

>>107064320
You dropped your aura sir
>>107062927
>>107063726

>>107064305
>Based on very preliminary research by Harman (S. Olive), the JM-1 target fared quite well as a preference target against other targets and curves.
>as a preference target
lacking reading comprehension, retard? ask chatGPT for an explanation
>Point me in the guide where it says "being almost like soundguys target means it's a preference target" please.
You are so fucking stupid. Why are you making "JM-1 with HarmanOE 2015 filters" distinction in the first place? Which JM-1 are you talking about when you are calling it a "reference" target?

>>107064122
> foam tips
ok thats based

>>107064403
You can't read.
>the tested JM-1 was using the filters from HarmanOE 2015 instead of HarmanOE 2018
Literally the next sentence.
>Why are you making "JM-1 with HarmanOE 2015 filters" distinction in the first place?
Because a preference target must have a preference study.

https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106900531/#106912277
Bought all three. Tanyas still fuck, as usual.
The ED9 pro is perfectly fine for casual "it carries audio" functionality, the default tips were made out of some weird rubber that irritated my ears, had to swap the material. Classic toxic china material I guess
The waist drum is still on the way

>>107064421
>buying IEMs with shit treble and comfort to "fix" them with foams is "le based"

>>107064237
Wow I guess you'll have to learn to EQ now.

>>107064320
you got your answer tho? the fuck else do you need, retard?

>>107064433
>Literally the next sentence.
and how does this change anything?
>Because a preference target must have a preference study.
And? It does

>>107064541
>and how does this change anything?
You'll have to read that sentence to find out.

>>107064555
no I think you are retarded and got destroyed by your own argument

>>107064587
I accept your concession.

>>107064590
Isn't it a little bit too late for that?
you literally can't even explain why JM-1 is not a preference target by your own definition (lifted from EQ guide) despite having multiple listening tests. Despite guide literally calling it preference target.
That's just how stupid you are.

>>107064626
>Isn't it a little bit too late for that?
No, I have all day to accept it.
>despite having multiple listening tests
This >>107064249 has 0 listening tests.

>>107064626
what the eq guide says doesn't mean and shouldn't mean dick to anybody because it's bullshit.

Got a Gate and honestly it sounds like shit, at least the cable was decent. Considering I didn't like the Zero's either I'm bailing from Truthear for good.

>>107064764
for the price of both you could have just gotten hexa or pure, the iems they make that get actual praise instead of just being entry level slop for noobs

got a question if anyone knows

I am looking at getting a pair of space travel 2/ultra/golden age 2

my understanding is ultra is marginally better than 2 due to a higher end codec support but overall they basically sound the same and with an eq probably indistinguishable outside of that codec

golden age 2 have the feature set of space travel 2 ultra, but with a bumped out button design so you never miss hit, and I think a few more codecs, in all honesty, they will likely make new iems before I would be able to take advantage of the extra ones.

so thats about where I am at, if there any quality in terms of sound the speakers produce or is it just a difference of codec and I think some special audio stuff, not sure it matters at all.

there are 2 reasons I want these over my current space travels

1) custom eq, I could set these to be the perfect volume and the right amount of bass for me, If I could get them even close to my dusks with eq, would be perfect

2) pairing with 2 devices at once, which should let me keep it paired to my computer, pause audio there and then play whatever on my tablet, and not need to deal with trying to get the click and hold just right, or getting up to unpair and repair.

anyone able to help with this?

>>107064916
yes your 2 reasons are valid.
devices supports those codecs is not a given. you know your devices do?
i'd just stick to ST2, simple and economical. the same cheap plastic build used at exponentially higher costs is offensive. sound from the ST2 is good enough for casual wireless use

>>107064916
and no, codecs don't matter that much, for a whole list of reasons. one reason being there is a trade-off of bitrate versus stability/range. you sound like you want to (reasonably so) be moving around pretty freely between different devices that may be some distance from you. you're not going to be able to listen to forced-highest-res LDAC like that anyways. you'll experience drop-outs because the stable range is short. so you'll be on some lower bitrate like aptx adaptive or w/e anyways in your realistic use scenarios, and your music will still sound fine.

>>107059261
>>107064122
the pinball wizard mix sounds super fucked, no idea what happened there but I would source another one

>>107064465
all IEMs have shit treble, noeq newfriend

>>107064974
tablet likely supports the higher end codec over the base space travel 2, pc bluetooth died and I have to fallback on a 4.2 dongle from linksys as it was the only one that used a higher than absolute minimum codec...

I half consider getting a dongle that would do higher end audio codecs but they only do audio and I need to connect bluetooth devices... I could get an add in card and just be done with it but really don't want to deal with that because of the nightmares I had in the past with pci devices causing issues and incompatibility along with lane bifurcation in ways I didn't intend. and because it has been brought up before, my motherboard makes it as painful as possible to replace the onboard wireless card so that's a non starter.

and yea i'm kinda leaning toward the st2 just because, while the ga2 have features I would like and may be fun to try, buy the time I can take full advantage of them a newer set that likely shits on these will be out.

my only hold over is if goldenage 2 sounds better with codecs being the same. and at that point better enough an eq wouldn't touch it?

>>107065038
yea, basically whole house is covered by I think a2dp, its been awhile since I went down this rabbit hole of dongles and codecs, basement has cutouts on the far end, but I can set my tablet up in the center and use it for audio down there, ideally I may get a watch that has onboard storage and bluetooth for audio when exercising, but that's a future me problem and a massive if, I really like my amazefits pai number as a gamification of exercising, I was looking at oneplus 2r a while back, apparently they put out a 3...

>>107065215
wrong.

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>>107065340
all of these are ear rape my deaf graphschizo. read the eq guide before your hearing loss sets in

>>107065368
>buys ear rape
>it's ear rape
Why are boomers like this.

>>107065381
>buys $100 pos
>paid for higher distortion/THD
>hallucinates "driver quality"
Why are schizophrenics and audiophools like this

>>107065393
Once you reverse mortgage your house to afford a $100 IEM you'll understand.

>>107065408
you forgot to spam the thread with 3 charts, get workin'

>>107065368
>he doesn't know

I stopped using my IEMs. Silence is better than noise.

>>107064644
>This >>107064249 (You) has 0 listening tests.
you are actually wrong. But it doesn't amtter. Is it JM-1 target or not JM-1 target?

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Today I will remind them

>>107065535
https://distortaudio.org/index.html

>>107065535
They need to update that list, most of that shit is ancient

Sancai Noble any better than regular
?

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flangezo here with my new pos - Puremodicks
the bass hits even harder, not much bloat added if any, and the treble is silky smooth
also the included eartips seem to be made of similar material as our favorite triple flanges, which is interesting

>>107065702
a piece of trivia: the word "etymotic" means "true to the ear"
>TRUe to THe EAR

>>107065702
what tips are those? and how is the comfort?
I've got the pures but i find them to be a little uncomfortable after a few hours

>>107065736
the cheapest triple flanges from amazon, the ones I bought was from OTOTEC, but I think it's just one of many OEMs
it's quite comfy actually, the worst part is putting them in, the rest is a breeze

>>107065368
it took you over 30 different pos to find out you're deaf. what's new? just eq out your tinnitus

>>107065489
>Is it JM-1 target or not JM-1 target?
nobody said it's not

>>107065901
so is jm-1 a preference target or not?

>>107065990
you make it one by eqing to your taste or being a dumbass treating it like one, raw, as is. so, no.

Which generic silicone tips should I buy?
The one that came with my old Sennheiser CX300S were perfect, all other materials simply do not do it for my ears.
Are there even some generic enough?

I just installed RockBox on my H2, but it doesn't see anything in the Music folder - has anyone else seen something similar and managed to figure it out?

The folder is at the root, next to the .rockbox folder and I've tried to reinitialize the DB multiple times and reinstalled the .rockbox.

>>107065630
they work well for me but then again most tips do. you can get them for near free anyway

>>107066554
Fair enough, noble sets are bit more expensive but regular ones yeah.

Just got the EQZ Q1 Pro and honestly, its meh. I bought it for gaming and it does the job but for music my marshal IIIs is way more 'fun' and my previous beyer 990 pros is way better. Ofc, completely different price point.

BUT i do like how it fits in my ear so will look for another pair. Do i need to go to $100 price point for it to beat my previous headphones?

>>107066981
No the q1pro is just ass

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>>107066981
what exactly are you missing? better imaging cues like where footsteps are coming from, etc.? you won't have to spend much, but TKZK Ouranos should be better for you in that regard than the EPZ. you'll get really good imaging and soundstage for gaming without spending top dollar, something the Q1 Pro doesn't have going for it.

>>107066981
just EQ dumbass

>>107066981
Lol you about to offend half a thread with this one

>>107067187
God dammit. A lot of youtubers said it was good, i know subjective blabla.
>>107067206
No i said for gaming (CS2) they seem to be fine. Sure, the dt990 pro was excellent but been gaming with the marshall III and they have not been the best for footsteps.

I will grab another pair of cheap ones. What to get after this failure?

>>107067249
I refuse to EQ, thats for poor people. (YOU).

Did China make anything better than the Tangzu Wan'er yet? Last I checked it was still the king of low THD.

>>107067311
Gate or bunny if you want more neutral, ew300 for more bass

>>107067325
If waner is low thd then by all means give me the highest THD pos.

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>>107067354
Flatheads.

>>107067354
>If waner is low thd then by all means give me the highest THD pos.
What did you not like about them? (that couldn't be EQ'd within seconds, of course)
My complaint would be the fit, considering trying out the Truthear Gate to see if they're any better in that regard.

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>>107067379
Clip style tws are even worse. Almost as bad as BA pos.

>>107067339
Bunny it is i guess

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Recommended music players for android?

>>107067541
apple music

>>107067553
faggot

>>107067401
Yeah, its just a muffled little iem, no resolution, no dynamics, no nothing, just a drowned out little driver

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Searched outside of this shitty board, found Musicolet, installed it, it actually looks just like what I needed from initial glances. Very straightforward, down to earth and effective app. Hopefully the initial impression remains correct.

>>107067568
>highest selection of asian music (99% of what this thread listens to)
>literally EXCLUSIVE source of lossless for 70% of japanese indie
>hi-res up to 24/192 for ultrasonic listeners
>cheapest offering amongst the streamers
>doesn't require you to be a faggot and dl shit on red
only reason not to use it is because you're a poorfag. if you need EQ or some shit just use wavelet.

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>paying for ability to listen to music

>>107067622
You're such a stupid faggot.
I just want to listen to my KoRn .mp3s i downloaded 21 years ago because i'm gonna be in a place without internet access for next two hours and the default app sucks.

>he can't afford it
like clockwork

literal hearing loss >>107065892
remember to EQ before you go deaf folks

remember, graphschizos do not have good enough hearing to be annoyed by treble sparkle and they are sparkling out their hearing, don't be like the last 3 retards who literally lost their hearing

>>107067622
>>hi-res up to 24/192 for ultrasonic listeners
nigga sample rate is audio frames, aka time domain. like fps. fucking jeets i swear. spoiler alert you can hear this for yourself by getting a NOS and comparing 44.1 and upsampled

>>107067311
>marshall III
I can guarantee you, that overpriced piece of shit won't give you $300 worth of sound in a headphone. anything Marshall does outside of guitar amps is a gimmick, frankly.
>>107067620
musicolet is very solid and has been brought up here before scarcely. great music app.
>>107067738
>>107067753
stop samefagging and talking to yourself

>>107068009
>upsampling is literally frame gen for audio
what's the dlss of audio

eq guide has stood the test of time to my surprise
gazette not so much, hope editorzo is still alive

$100 pos buyer's remorse folks >>107068013

whats better overall (sound, comfort, value) the Fola or Origin? cause alot of people are selling the origin for pretty cheap compared to sealed new

>>107068661
fola better at everything except looking good, origin is unbeatable

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thanks to the anon that suggested a watch case for storage. i got pic related for like $30 or something and it stores all my iems and daps.

Best pos for EQ purposes?

>>107069007
Q1 Pro is still among my favorite budget sets.

>>107069007
pr2 and shanling up6

>>107069007
the consensus here is actually EDC Pro

>>107069007
Aful Explorer. When you EQ, you want something that is smooth in the treble without any peaks. This makes things a lot easier.

>>107069057
good

>>107069190
dogshit

>>107069269
dogshit

>>107069291
>treble without any peaks
because it is nuked to nothing past 10khz idiot

>>107069326
so what's your recommendation, faggot?

>>107069354
he has none because he's deaf from not eqing his ear rape

>>107069291
>smooth in the treble without any peaks.
So this is what the average audiotard thinks huh

>>107069413
Only the experts

>>107059060
where is proofs?

>>107069413
>>107069480
still samefagging, it's obvious