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Wake me up when the geek uprising begins.
I'm going to power shoryuken the cloud into the mothafuckin stratosphere in some totally legal and lawful manner as soon as I figure out the way to do it without committing a crime.
/gug/

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computing is free and in the right hands it is unstoppable

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jeets and AI: your time has come, fear it, expect it, and you had better believe it.

>>107072423
fuck leftists. democrats are the jeet party. Mamdani.... mamdani is a bitch that never had a real job.
and I am employable when the jeets and democrats are not strangling the economy as some sort of collective suicide strategy triggered by TDS.

>>107072679
Instead of those lowbrow midwit trash books shat by OP read this:
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.218162
The Road to Serfdom by Friedrich A. Hayek

>>107072541
If we want an uprising we need a plan. What's your idea for a plan?

>>107072766
praxis, my bad

the word is praxis

does anyone have any praxis?

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>>107072423
According to Plebbitor 10 years ago
>I applied to tons of jobs back in May and it was extremely easy to get competing job offers.
>... Only applied to 15 jobs in months? This is your problem. Go to IBM's website right now and apply to 100 entry level positions

Meanwhile, IBM's current open entry level positions...

So am I to believe this Redditor was Indian, or is there something more here that I'm not aware of?

Also

>Check glassdoor for all companies in your area and just apply bro

They have like at most 1-10 entry level positions open, if they have one at all (because most don't), and you're competition against thousands of other grads (not saying I haven't applied just because of that, but still).

>>107073835
Not to mention, most positions are getting filled with H1Bs, or at least were until Trump put a stop on that.

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>>107072423

Rejoice /utwg/bros, the Indian Hindu invaders are finally getting their "karma"

https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1eckee9/oh_man_our_entire_team_has_been_replaced_by/

Question, seeing how fucked tech is should I just go back to what I enjoy and make games? is the game programming area as fucked as all other SWE roles?

I'm trying to pull myself trough finishing a couple of random app projects but I miss game devving

>>107072541
>unironic joker posting
lol, lmao even.

>>107072766
I do not have a plan. I have a few principles:
I really want to keep it lawful and not commit any crimes; this will require *us* to research computer crime laws to know the boundary.
I believe that PowerShell will be the best tool; it is multi-platform and is supported by all major cloud providers. (PowerShell works great on RHEL).
*us* defined: I also believe that any centrally orchestrated or uprising is inherently flawed in that it will be easily put down, easily infiltrated, and easily entrapped (by colleagues who are actually FBI agents trying to get *us* to cross the lines into unlawful/illegal behavior).
Right now my thought is that the clouds make use of public networks, are attempting to capture from the internet commons things that are in the public domain, and externalize their failures by polluting the public domain; if *we* can be at the right place at the right time, digitally, then when they fuck up we can defend the public commons make it harder for them to recover.
Perhaps publishing some PowerShell cmdlets is the start. I'm not sure. Those are my ideas so far. *We* also want to make sure that whatever work we do does not assist AI. I am inspired by rumors of folks deliberately putting trash into places that AI will suck it up. If AI wants to exploit and rape the public domain and ingests poison pills *we* left in key locations, my intuition tells me such is lawful activity. Such as if I manufacture something inherently dangerous and an asshole thief comes and steels it from me, brings it into their camp of theives, and kaboooom! then i've not done nothing wrong and am just a victim of theft. That just gave me another idea where cloud providers steal from the open source commons; maybe a few well crafted steal-me libraries that some FAGMAN jeet steals and runs internally.
How's that for a start?

>>107074879
You're a retard.

just game welfare until they decide to unfuck the economy and start sending jeets back

you will never afford a house until things change fundamentally

on welfare you live basically as good as making 70 or 80k a year. the three years you spend fruitlessly shooting out apps for a job that was sold out to indians does. not. exist. you can however spend 3 years getting on welfare and it will pay.

starve the beast

>>107072423
>vote for leftist retards
Thanks for admitting you're a fucking idiot.

>>107075056
Leftists are the ones that want to flood the country with more immigrants which means fewer jobs so op is mega retarded

>>107072423
Cheating on coding assessments is pretty much a requirement to get by now right? There's no way anyone is really doing Leetcode hards, or it's actually fair for anyone to do such problems given the high probability that only those who memorize them will pass.

>>107074991
>just game welfare until they decide to unfuck the economy and start sending jeets back
who is this "they" you refer to?

>you will never afford a house until things change fundamentally
fuck a house, i don't want and don't need a house

>on welfare you live basically as good as making 70 or 80k a year. the three years you spend fruitlessly shooting out apps for a job that was sold out to indians does. not. exist. you can however spend 3 years getting on welfare and it will pay.
fuck welfare. welfare is an illusion meant to control, defuse, and zombify cowards.

>starve the beast
it is impossible to starve a beast, if said beast literally owns a money printing machine

All your suggestions are just more the same agitate-for-political-change drivel. sorry obama, that's not going to work for me.

>>107075056
>>107075802
immigrant here who came during Trump 1. thx for letting me in and giving me a security clearance :)

>>107074964
thanks for letting me know that I'm on the right track.

>>107072423
haha OP I love froggo XD

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>>107075056
>>107075802
the parties are both the same. it means nothing who you vote for. stop the cope, miggers

Leftism is taking from the rich to give to the poor. This is called socialism.

Conservatism is taking from the poor to gove to the rich. This is called corporate socialism.

>>107076474
you also need to stop the cope, retard
>under biden:
>everyone got poorer, everything got more expensive, corpos made a shit load of money
>under trump:
>everyone is getting poorer, everything is getting more expensive, corpos are making a shit load of money

>>107074132
Honestly I would consider making small games as a good kind of busywork while searching. Keeps your skills sharp and who knows, perhaps you'll hit on the next FOTM.

>>107074132
But yes, if you're looking for a professional game dev role then they're also fucked.

>>107076474
Leftists want to consolidate all power in the hands of a few elites forever and enslave everyone else. Everyone else wants everyone to have everything they need to be self sufficient and have the ability to potentially be more than that through free trade and freedom.

Time for some more javascript!!! Just like two more weeks then I can finally start working on the secret project.

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>>107072423
guys a got a new job and this time it doesn't suck
(got two others that did and i left within a few weeks), literaly checks all my boxes except being useful.

i also have equity now, if i'm lucky i can retire in 3 years.

i wish you guys luck, you can do it frens ! :)

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>>107076862
congrats, friendo! is it remote? wagmi.

>>107076474
go read that hayek book; it's not a binary world.
>>107076734
your first sentence is correct; your second sentence a bit... well... optimistic.
>>107076862
it's a trap. but I hope good enough to keep you going for now.

>>107076734
" Educate and inform the whole mass of the people, enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve it, and it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.—After all, it is my principle that the will of the majority should prevail. If they approve the proposed constitution in all it’s parts, I shall concur in it chearfully, in hopes they will amend it whenever they shall find it works wrong. This reliance cannot deceive us, as long as we remain virtuous; and I think we shall be that, as long as agriculture is our principal object, which will be the case while there remain vacant lands in any part of America. When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become corrupt as in Europe, and go to eating one another as they do there." -- Thomas Jefferson

I think about that last sentence often...

>>107077275
yes, full remote, founding engineer, prolly cto in the next year or so.
i choose my tech stack too which is nice.

wagmi ! :^)

>>107077350
> it's a trap.
why so pessimistic
> but I hope good enough to keep you going for now.

thank you !
i hope you'll be ok too !

well, the company is already worth quite a good amount, if i can 10x it in my stay that'd be retirement.
either way, i make good money, am remote and control the tech, so i'm pretty happy about it.

>>107077443
the equity and the belief that it could lead to retirement in 3 years.
get a good salary TODAY, that's what matters.

>>107077491
i already have a good salary (20K more than previous job).

but basicaly before that i was working for a 5B company in a team of ~10 devs as a senior dev.

they are essentialy doing the same thing, and i believe they have everything to reach > 1B.

currently valued at ~100M and i get a few percents.

>>107076862
>>107077603
3 jobs that were actually real, because you started them... wow. Out of curiousity how did you find these jobs? Did you just cold apply or what?

I blame tech unemployment on the lack of licenses to practice coding.

>>107074132
I made a flappy bird game using Gemini AI Studio but it's a buggy mess. Game development has become faster but you have to continue to prompt to fix the mess. AI is dogshit at producing nonbugged code.

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>>107072423
Did Trump's EO on H1B visa not help at all?

>>107073835
IBM is a jeet mill faggot ass company that will send you an OA and then not even give you an interview when you do well on it if your not an indian.

>>107078082
he needs to do more. $100k fees on H1B's from outside the country doesn't do anything to the faggots who are here on student visas already who can convert their visa to H1B and avoid the fee. There needs to be heavy fees on ones already here + cut the "master's degree in the USA, saaaaaaaaaar" to US Job pipeline.

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>>107078106
Seems about right. Every resource on getting hired at IBM is made by Rajeesh, plus they have a jeet CEO

>>107078106
Jpmorgan did the same to me :(

>>107072423
>vote socialist
>?
double nigger get on a boat to Venezuela

>>107076474
You are rich. Gimme all yer stuff.

The only people that get ahead is jeets that lie and cheat and they're also the reason everything is turning to shit

>apply
>get rejected
>check linkedin people with "software" in job title
>jeeted to hell

>>107074132
Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life

>>107079394
gl telling that to the people in this thread. dudes here think HR Stacey is going to go through their trash and find their crusty old dragon dildos.

>>107079403
Only jeets can afford to be average devs, you either are exceptional (like top of your class and/or top hacker or programming competition wizard) or they won't even look at you resume.

>>107079439
Do what you love for work and you'll learn to hate it

>>107079946
Hate what you love and you'll learn to work at it

>>107078082
Whatever drumpf does only helps his rich friends.

>>107077275
ngmi.

careers for software devs are dead and done, the guy prolly got a job through nepotism.

>>107077811
first job a few month as a cybersec exec for a french bank got the position after winning a hacking competition of france's nsa equivalent,

then i left for a SE job at a meme crypto company because it involved less paperwork and paid 3x more.
then the previous job at that 5B$ company, i'm friend with whom at the time was the "chief of software" so he helped me get in.
i am however very good at what i'm doing and he'd have not taken me in if that wasn't the case, though, this allowed to skip all the HR bullshitery, i stayed there for a little over a year.

then got two short term job, the first one i applied to on indeed, passed their test, interviews etc, but it did not work for me as it was in office and 3h of train per day just made my life hell, so i left.

then i worked for 3 weeks for another company, they reached me on linked in because of my experience at the 5B$ company, they kinda low balled me on the contract but i still took it because i needed the money, upon joining i realised the whole codebase was GO and the whole team was jeets, at that point i decided that it was not worth it especialy with the low ball and the fact that i did not like go and not only that, poorly written go, they told me there would be some rust and c++ but that was a lie to bait me in which i obviously did not appreciate.

so yea, shit was bad, i did not want to work in this environment.

and then the one i'm working for currently, they contacted me on linked in, their founding engineer unfortunately passed in an accident away and they needed someone that could take over, that makes me the current only engineer and that means i have full control of the technology, which i enjoy very much so.

so i basicaly took the role of founding engineer and am on my way to cto when we are gonna expand the team, the company is a startup but worth about 100M currently, they actualy have that value through infrastructure and are already profitable.

there you go with my work history.

>>107081372
>>107077811
oh and to give you a timeline, if you ignore those 2 short term position i've been unemployed from mars of this year to last week.

i'm quite content now, especialy since this is a job where i have full control of the tech stack and can do remotely.

so if something is bad, i don't have to just live with it, i can actualy chose to fix it and make life nicer for myself.

>>107079439
because you'll be unemployed

>>107072423
>If you graduate without an internship in your field, prepare to work at McD's or an Amazon warehouse for the foreseeable future
there is so much work that is handed over to H1Bs that is not even CS quality but could be done by web bootcamp graduates and all you goodgoys just bend over and let the industry fuck you

you all deserve to starve and have jeets walk over your dead bodies

>>107081414
lol

>>107081435
this is me : >>107081372

i'm self taught, i didn't even graduated, the only thing that matter are skills and networking.

the later is probably even more important desu, but if you have amazing skills and some somewhat good networking you'll find something.

a diploma is useless without the network or skills.

okay what the fuck is happening
The amount of unpaid and intern positions have exploded in recent days on linkedin? It feels like 1 out of 3 new jobs posted have a
>this is an intern position
>this is an unpaid position

>>107081466
i've once seen a paid intern position (they wanted you to pay to have the "priviledge" of working for them) lmao.

>>107081460
>i'm self taught, i didn't even graduated, the only thing that matter are skills and networking.
maybe in France it does, here in america everyone just openly bends over and lets jeets fuck them in the ass, see this post as proof

>>107079639
>Only jeets can afford to be average devs, you either are exceptional (like top of your class and/or top hacker or programming competition wizard) or they won't even look at you resume.

>>107081482
my job at the 5B company was for an american company.

my job second job in the meme crypto company was a swiss company.

i will stay on what i think and say that what matters the most is skills and network.
if you have the two you don't need a diploma.

though winning some hacking competition that involved reverse engineering and binary exploitation sure helped.

also i was lucky to get my first SE job in like end of 2022 / begining of 2023 at that time people would contact just about any dev on linked in, the market was indeed much better, not sure i'd be able to pull off the same path today desu.

> only jeets
lol,

i mean i am in the later category, i've been obsessively and autisticaly spending all my time programing and learning about computer stuff since i'm a kid basicaly.

but repeating my point, i think if you are highly skilled, you just need to build some network and you'll do fine.
also don't underhestimate how charisma can push you forward if you meet people irl.

>>107072423
maybe we could start some DAO to employ ourselves lol

>>107081511
>also don't underhestimate how charisma can push you forward if you meet people irl.
what I am not underestimating is how jeeted the US tech industry is for anything that is not Google or AI so 'charisma' is just code for sucking dick and being a token white guy at a startup

>>107081564
> how jeeted is the US tech industry

i agree, but not all companies are jeeted.
the 5B i worked had did not have a single jeet in the team.

companies that actualy are doing something real or at least performance / quality critical tend to not be jeeted as much if at all.

>>107081528
I worked for a DAO as a sidegig for a while. Holy FUCK that was comfy and easy money.

>>107076488
>under xi jinping:
>everyone's getting rich, everything's getting more affordable, youth are owning their own homes, corpo executives are getting powerchecked, everything's more meritocratic, society's actually optimistic about the future

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>under [insert name here]:
>despite higher prices, more migrants and stagnant wages, smart tech workers are constantly upskilling and only apply for the hardest jobs. they meet fellow smart tech workers along the way, specialise in a niche and eventually find their footing in a new country where they settle down and eventually retire earlier than most

>>107078657
I hear first hand that they are very jeeted. From someone who works there.

>>107072423
Leftists are the reason why everything has gone to shit, retard. Who do you think started letting non-citizens into the market and making stuff like gender a factor in employment?

>>107072423
> Leetcode
Is jeetcode still a thing? God I'm glad to be too senior for this retarded bullshit

Soon companies will require that you pay them for training on the job and then you have a chance at getting a job at the company afterwards.
However I do not know how the people who need to work to make money will be able to pay for that.

I'm from EU, I'm working at my first company for 2+ years as a front end dev (but it's a small company so I also do DevOps and stuff like npm packages) already after graduating uni
But they pay is on the low end, I mean already comfortable, but I know I can make 2x that
Also I work on site (in office) 8h a day and I'd prefer remote
So after I come back home I mostly don't really have energy to do side projects
I have a website (although) and some personal projects as well as work projects to show (open source npm packages)

So what do you think my strategy should be?
Should I finish my website and mass apply?
How many applications a day?
Do I adjust the resume for different companies or just send the same stuff every time?

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Tonight on r/jobsearchhacks

>>107082708
Yes.

>>107081372
>>107081398
wow, thank you so much for your reply. Congratulations to you. Your story is a testament that working hard and honestly developing one's skills to be truely good at what one does will sometimes pay off in the longrun. Super happy for you. You deserve it. wishing you to not get complacement and keep up the good work.
Some advice: carefully balance your overexertion to flow (when you need) and ebb (to recover). As it sounds like you've been at it quite sometime, burnout can sneak up on you in your 30's. just be aware of it and keep it from biting you. Swimming is a great way to exercise and decompress because there's no tech under the water :-)

>>107082943
>but I know I can make 2x that
No you can't in this market

>>107083572
Hah! This might be my favourite post on this app.

>>107082567
while I agree with you, in part, and I can say I'm definitely not a leftist AT ALL it is important to keep a long memory and never let off the pressure to keep politicians from allowing the flood of cheap labor to come across that border regardless of party affiliation. I know that right now we have to vote against democrats because they are absolutely insane batshit nuts and their policies amount to collective suicide, we got to stay on the republican bastards too and make sure that no pro-corporate, anti-populist bought and paid for crony republican ever wins a primary. Until every domestic born teen has a job, we don't need unskilled labor, and until every domestic born college grad has a good job, we don't want skilled labor from coming from anywhere in the world regardless of how "smart" they are; "go somewhere else we're overflowing full and piled on top of each other" should be the polite response. AND NO, immigrant, while USA has welcomed you, your aged ass parents are not welcomed here, send some money "back home" or go "back home". sorry not-sorry.

good morning sirs

>>107083914
Good morning saars

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>batshit obsessed boomer parents hate my guts for being unemployed and are on the verge of kicking me out
>just got told to start searching for apartments
>I have maybe around $40K saved up from previous work
I hate this fake and gay society so much. How long can I sustain myself for?

I'm 29 years old, I'm unemployed, I'm bald, I have a beard, I wear glasses and I never had sex. The only thing that I have going is this computer science degree.

>>107084857
>The only thing that I have going is this computer science degree.
That's actually a negative

>>107084886
>whore logic

fuck documentation
give me all the user stories regarding the database for starters
define
design
build
test
deliver
repeat

This scrum thing doesn't seem to bad, you only have to interact with normgroids for max 20 minutes a day and you just say "I fixed the hard bug, today I will code the next thing, I will require more tendies" then you get to play runescape for 1-3 weeks because you already finished your thing in 1 week and no one can tell you shit because there are no bosses in scrum.

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What do you guys think about cover letters? Do you actually use them? Do you think it matters at all? If so, do you personalize them? Without AI even?

https://blog.avas.space/ai-hiring/

>At a conference I was at, two companies talked about implementing AI into all areas and layers of their company. For the talk, they specifically zeroed in on AI in the hiring process.

>They began to describe that their goal (which they are about halfway there already) was:

>Using AI to write the job listings.

>Using AI to scout potential employees on LinkedIn and Xing and messaging them.

>Using AI to automatically sort applicants and possibly even score them (!).

>Using AI to send out the invitations and rejections.

>Using AI to lead the job interview - with AI Avatars in a video call.

>Using AI to summarize the video interview and suggest a decision.

>Using AI in onboarding and training, letting the employees train themselves via a chatbot they can ask, and training materials by AI.

>>107084829
>How long can I sustain myself for?
Not long I presume.

>>107081695
why did you stop then ?
also how did you get in ?

>>107084987
>user stories regarding the database
as a database user I don't want my database designed by user stories so that I can query the database without wanting to quit my job or kill the asshole that made me design a database from user stories.

>>107086306
You may submit one stored procedure in the form of a user story which we will implement and we will do a scrum review in two weeks at which point you may submit an additional user story during the following sprint planning.

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>>107083785
thank you anon !

initially it was a hobby as a kid, i just realy enjoyed learning about computers, i eventualy became very good at this stuff and it made logical sense to make a career out of it.
i will definitely not get complacent as i still realy enjoy CS, though i'm now also kinda getting interested in other fields, ie chemistry, math and neuroscience.

> some advice

thank you very much, yes i do tend to overwork myself.

i'd say my biggest issue is that if i think too much during the day i may have trouble falling asleep even if i can stop thinking in bed, it may take time to actualy relax.
that's also why i chose to live in the mountains, so that i can take forest walk breaks, learning to play violin has also been helpful to break off work.

i generaly have as a rule to leave all tech 3 or 4 hours before bed, i'll generaly spend 1 or 2h walking outside when the weather is nice, read and play violin when it isn't and then have dinner somewhere in there as well.

picrel from about a two weeks ago near my house.

i wish you well as well ! :)

>>107085737
I fucking hate this timeline

>>107081511
So basically just have 8 years experience in a technology that's been out for 5 years and be willing to do it for less than your last position.

>>107084829
Just for my own amusement, are your parents Fox News-ified or libtarded?

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>>107084829
Similar story here but mine are using an underhanded tactic I spotted in a toxic union workplace, which is emotionally abusing the shit out of someone until they leave / creating an environment that makes them physically sick or debilitated from stress.
I am genuinely having health problems living with them, like grinding my teeth in my sleep from stress and waking up with horrible TMJ pain / "brainfog" (associated with stiff neck & shitty sleep) that stops me from doing very basic "IADL" shit, let alone searching for work. This is so they can force me out without looking bad to their (non-existant) friends or extended family.
Honestly, it's looking like I'm going to get abused either way. Anyone that doesn't conform in this country gets massively shat on, like how I see 50 year old gay guys stuck working at TJ Maxx, or a 60 year old pizza delivery driver with some sort of cognitive issue.

>>107086787
hmm, i think you were quoting the wrong guy, if not i don't get what you are saying, i've always made more in new positions than previous.

you may settle for less to get a first job in your cv yes, but as soon as you have a half decent resume and the skills to show for it you'll do fine if you are not socialy retarded.

though i can't repeate enough how network is important, you need to go meet people, some that are good (they can end up in high places or help get you in companies), and some that are already high up the ladder.

anyway, i'll probably be hiring in like a year or so as i'll move to cto, i'd be fine hiring some juniors even without diploma as long as they pass my technical interview and show that they know their stuff.

i wouldn't do meme leetcode.

>>107086285
I was doing maybe an hour of work per day with little oversight, very comfy. Buy then the DAO matured, stricter oversight put in place, so the "easy" money dried up.

Getting into web3 startups / DAOs was, in my experience, far easier than the traditional linkedin humiliation rituals. You show up in their community, learn about everything, help everyone, until you're seen as a semi-important person. In my case it meant reading all their smart contracts, then helping onboard developers with boilerplate solidity code and so on. Learn the tools for the job like hardhat, ethers.js, viem, and write some basic documentation for people trying to integrate via their frontend apps.

DAOs will usually fund so-called "working groups" for various things that are needed for the project, like community/developer outreach. So I applied to that one, and my public record in discord helping out developers spoke for itself, and was instantly hired.

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I give up. A year since graduating and I still can't find a job.

Im going go to trade school and enroll at my local community college next Spring. Haven't decided on what trade im going to take up, yet though but tech is a dead end for me. No connections, and I didn't score an internship during my college time so I was triple fucked.

>>107087597
>Falling for the trades meme

>>107087643
IT/Software is an even bigger meme. If trades don't work out then I guess ill just Luigi some CEO or politician before I blow my brains out.

>>107087670
In Minecraft?

>>107087711
No in fucking real life.

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>>107087724

got fired today, bros... it was take your pet to work day so i brought my pet goose... they said it didnt "present the right image to stakeholders"...

>>107087742
You silly goose. Welcome to /utwg/.

>>107087742
i kinda hope this is not true but this is also too funny for me to not want it to be true lmao.

sorry if it happened anon, but that is funny if it did.

>>107084857
Basically same

>>107087732
if i was a glowy, id be trying to convince (you) to luigi not say ill do it myself

>>107087742
>i thought it was a good idea to bring the canadian rape animal into the office
you deserved it

>>107087914
RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE

>>107087597
Trades as a whole is heavily reliant upon a booming economy for cashflow so I would highly suggest not going into more debt for another worthless certificate. You should check into local/state government jobs, especially for shitty parks or repairman jobs if you do want to earn some money and get some experience working with your hands while waiting for the current job market to improve

>>107087936
no please nooooo please get more certs bro you need more certs

>>107087936
>bro just get a government job its easy
I don't think I would ever stop stabbing you.

>>107087955
you are now aware that 99% of employment advice is either theorycraft from the chronically unemployed or the currently employed actively deceiving you to protect their own jobs

>>107072423
i want to die bros

>>107087936
>You should check into local/state government jobs, especially for shitty parks or repairman jobs
I passed USPS' lead automotive technician exam and they randomly scheduled me for a "garageman" interview I didn't apply for (a coveted position that was unadvertised) just to waste my time and give it to somebody's cousin. I was never in the running

>>107085384
i used to put a lot of stock in them but i dont think i even wrote one for my current job

>>107085737
why are normies so obsessed with AI? all of this kind of automation was already possible (and in fact was already happening, even in and especially in ATS's and other HR cancerware)

also, if you need AI to do all this supposedly human work, why not just use an AI to do the work in the first place? normie obsession with AI is so bewildering, they dont even want to use it for the things it would actually be good at and not cause more problems doing

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I now understand how one goes from studying Electrical Engineering to creating Democratic Kampuchea le epic style
every day I drift closer to the path of Pol Pot

>>107087955
I didn't say it's 'easy' you dumb nigger I'm just speaking from experience that it worked for me about a year ago, since those jobs are absolute ass and tend to require drug testing
>>107088042
I applied to a USPS position and died on the inside after taking that personality test. Congrats for actually hearing back

>>107088278
No, you implied it was easy and not just a huge waste of time. Never knew any one getting any govt position without obnoxious amounts of nepotism.

I keep reading that BIG things are going to happen with H1B's. Still waiting, Donald!

>>107088510
Yep, they gonna bring extra 160'000 jeets next year.

>If you're in ΝΥC vote for Mamdani.
kys

>>107088510
Is that before or after Mexico pays for the wall?

>>107087597
I'm european so we have free education but I don't know how americans do these things where they don't work but they keep paying for education.

>>107084829
You're not going to be able to get a lease without proof of income anyways.

failed another technical interview. I can't pass these even with cheating tools

>>107087091
please hire anons from this general using https://utwg.fren.work/

>>107090570
Just realized that I would have gotten a job in September if I had passed that technical interview...
But then again I'm not supposed to be a software engineer like you people.

>>107072423
man i love starting my own company, people are just throwing money to entrepreneurs these days.

why is everyone so down? i just got flown in from europe for a conference in vegas and i'm gonna stick around for a bit before flying to japan

shit's great for tech workers right now. ai is the coolest shit ever and making it easier then ever for me to complete jobs for our clients and keep my small consulting group growing!

If I don't get a job by summer I'll probably have to beg for money from my father and he'll have to wire it from Dubai or something.
If I still can't get a job next year and my father starts thinking that I'm wasting time then he'll stop sending money, then I'll lose my mortgage and have to go back to china and work at my dad's company which has transitioned to passive income anyway so there's nothing to do but start business ventures anyway.

>>107090725
what does your company do? how many employees do you have?

>>107090733
we make ai implementations for people and about 10 people in conjunction with our current client.

market is pretty hot guys , jump in

>>107090744
What exactly do you mean by that?
Are you making wrappers?

>>107090744
>jump in
ok how?

>>107090765
Majestic 12

>>107090733
LARP online

>>107090068
Its not free you're just forced to pay for it.

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>>107084829
Start robbing and scamming people. If society thinks it's okay for billionaires to get tax breaks and subsidies while the working class is left in the dust on unlivable wage and virtually no work opportunities and zero safety net, then you don't own them anything. Lie, cheat and scam them, you don't own them anything.

Boomers are the worst, they think that it's still 1960-70s when you could walk into a place of business and get a job paying your bills that would allow you to purchase a spacious house. Government defrauded people by massive spending and the rich tax breaks, while the 90s, 2000s generation is paying the price.

I say go the criminal route, the society is fucked and isn't worth giving a shit about.

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>>107090729
Counterintuitively, I sometimes WISH I lived in China or were a Chinese citizen.

I know that'd probably mean everything would be 10x harder and I'd have to live with my parents in a cramped apartment if I screwed up. But I'd have a province, a nationality, an identity. I could go to the first floor of my commie block and eat steamed buns and spicy noodle soup from the little stores there which wouldn't even be legal under most western countries' zoning laws. I'd have millennia of history and culture to look back upon instead of not even 300 years like the fucking diasporitard Ameritard I ended up being born as.

I don't get along with a lot of people, and I believe a semi-conscious urge to please my parents (and ancestors) led to me exclusively seeking out the company of fellow yellow Chinkameritards. I thought I was being "a good kid unlike those drunk fratbros" and exhibiting integrity, but now I'm aware what I was really doing was throwing away the ONE chance I had to mingle with general American society. With my charisma, all was within reach - girlfriends, riches, networks - and yet I threw it all away.

Being Chinese means nothing if you're unemployed. Even in America.

(Am the OP btw)

stop shitting up the thread you retarded commie

>>107091316
Boomers are vulnerable to scamming as well, since they're very gullible and naive. Just remember though if you do scam someone there is a victim, and it's gonna be someone's mom or dad. Instead of burning all their inheritance on cruises and casinos they'll have nothing left.

>>107091655
>they'll have nothing left
Just like their millenial/zum-zums children. Back to square one, I say it's only fair to get their wealth around.

>>107091438
Life splinters, changes, and evolves, creating new forms of life to add to the wonderful tapestry of life. Your and all American's ancestors made the decision for us to move from their ancestral homelands to form new peoples in a different land. The only rule for everyone in this land is you must value freedom and the ability to be self reliant, so even if you want to stay within traditional Chinese parameters you have to at least cultivate those values. There are enough freedom less authoritarian slave countries so if you don't want that then you should just go back to China.

>>107077350
>it’s not a binary world
>but all leftists are evil btw teehee
ok then

>>107090589
Thanks anon, applied for the janny position, wish me luck in the interview

>4 anon agile scrum dev team
>charge 5k a month for two sprints
>just need to have five projects going each month for everyone to bring home 75k a year

Why wouldn't this work?

>>107091964
not evil. just ignorant, uninformed, stupid, think that electing a dictator is democratic, embrace communism without knowing what it is, sometimes crazy, usually just resentful while directing hatred in all directions, racist, priveleged and detached from reality, unaware that nazis were socialists too, don't understand what fascism is, hopped up on drugs, just completely and utterly retarded entitled and bitter, don't respect private property, do not understand anything whatsoever, complete fools and degenerates, protest without putting forth any demands, riot with no clear objective of introspection on the purpose, lack a clear understanding of the definition of monarchy, have rarely if ever had a real job, trust-fund babies without a cause, hate the working poor, hate marriage, want to destroy everything so that everybody is equally ruined...things like that. "the left" is psychotic really, and obsessed with assinign things like "climate justice" which does not have any real meaning at all.
as for "the right", I truly do not think there is such a thing anymore; just normal people trying to work a job and live in a low crime area, worried about how to earn a meal and some shelter, decent folks: salt of the earth. wanting to work a job and be let alone... instead of swarming in some mass of spittle flying protests, again it's not evil vs good, it's retard vs trying to be productive against all odds and wanting to restore the rights of the individual vs the mob.

Actually fuck you guys what if I just charge 2k for a two week sprint? First week is functionality second week is design. The product owner will have a week to think of potential changes they want to functionality or design and can then pay for a second two week sprint.

>>107092058
How the fuck do you find 5 projects each month.

>>107090570
How do you cheat during interviews?

>>107091753
>Life splinters, changes, and evolves... so like, you should just chill out and stop worrying about your history, culture and way of life being bulldozed and replaced with awful globohomo slop that nobody except for corporations likes

6 months unemployed award

Should I just start looking for junior and entry level jobs at this point even though I have almost 10 yoe and have technically had the title "senior" at multiple jobs before? The competition at the senior level is just way too high now and I don't think it's even possible to get a job without being some kind of elite programmer anymore. I'm thinking that if I compete at the junior level I'll have a much better resume than most of the other applicants. Or is everyone already doing this strategy now?

Just found a job.
Been 15 months unemployed
Salary isnt great but atleast its wfh

>>107092995
Why didn't you just take an onsite job instead of waiting 15 months to get a wfh job?

>>107092967
N, you should preserve your culture, you're not adding diversity if you make something new but destroy the old. What I'm saying is that in this country commies and all other authoritarians belong on a pike and if you don't like something you are free to not buy or otherwise engage with it and should instead just stick with like minded people while living harmoniously and freely with other doing the same even if you do not like them or what they do. If you want to be forced to literally lick government boot go to literally any other country on the planet.

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>>107093024
Sounds like some neoliberal open borders bullshit. We've had unchecked mass immigration for too long, now we're at the point where if we don't do something about it fast, the country is done for. You won't get the freedom you want when you're surrounded by shit flinging third worlders with no concept of Enlightenment era western philosophy, lmao

Why are there so many nonwhites in this thread? Can we just have a thread for unemployed white Americans? Everyone else who's unemployed needs to go back to their country of origin and stop fucking up the job market for actual Americans.

>>107093058
Just buy enough land to support your people at a stable and healthy population and make sure none of your cocksucker kin sell any of it to outsiders while still being a part of the US?

The people i know who qre insanely good get the hell away from the $300k/yr Nvidia and AI jobs and live it up for $180k with 3 times the quality of life. The job shouldnt be harder just because it's new.

>>107093020
Because im a schizoid autist and i hate sitting at the office, i hate in person meetings, i hate the commute, i hate the office lunch and last but not least, i hate women.

>>107093065
Japanese board.

>>107093139
No this is an American board, but Japs are honorary whites so they're ok by me. Anyone who isn't a European or a Jap needs to get the fuck out of my country and stop shitting up the job market.

>>107093154
>No this is an American board
Owned by American man 西村博之?

Ok, wtf am I doing wrong?
>resume and LinkedIn, tailored to ATS
>salary, always asking for the lower end
>4yr experience
>during interviews I'm always smooth af, never stutter, giving clear and straight answers all the time to the point many recruiters get impressed and genuinely happy to talk to me
>wait few days
>"unfortunately we decided to...."

8 months of this shit already. I can't even get regular, shitty customer support jobs or retail jobs. Wtf is going on?

I just need something, anything. I'm barely eating but as of recently, I don't have enough money to buy food for my dog so he's starving too.
Honestly I would just eat a bullet if it wasn't for the fact that nobody would take care of my dog and he would probably rot in a shelter, he doesn't deserve that.

>not your personal blog
Yeah yeah.

>have interview
>interviewer is weirdly excited
>keeps saying that they have been struggling to find someone with my exact background
>without heads up is actually interviewing me for a better job than I applied for
>super positive whole time. At end says to keep an eye out on email next week
>get acceptance next day instead
>reply, accepting
>1 week later nothing
>Tried sending another email to see where we are at. Still nothing
I swear the longer I'm unemployed the more creative people are getting to raise me hopes just for the hell of it. If I don't get this job I need a retail job today but I don't want to go out and get a shitty job then get this one the next day. And it hurts thinking of getting paid <$20 an hour after what they said I would be getting paid.

>>107093269
You don't even need to do anything wrong when every single job gets 100 applications.

You have four years of experience? Maybe the next guy has five years. And the one after him has six years.

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>>107072423
How important is mentorship for a software engineer?
I just left my first job of 2 years because I was on a small team of 3 devs and I was getting stressed about essentially being senior and making all design and architecture decisions.
Well, turns out the new job lied. There are no seniors, just two jeets and my manager. I'm back to being the "senior" or at least I don't have anyone to review my code or discuss architecture decisions aside from the jeets.
I'm planning my exit, I need to line something else up first.
I want my code to be reviewed. I want a senior to tell me what I'm doing wrong and why it should be done some other way. It's just so stressful having to figure it all out alone, knowing that I'm probably picking up bad habits that I won't be able to break.
It's a state government job so the pay isn't worth what I'm being asked to do.

>>107093270
This pisses me off so much lol I'm certain some of those people do it just for fun

>you're exactly what we need anon!
>everything happens for a reason right, I'm so glad we were able to find you, keep an eye out we'll contact you again very very soon
>0 emails for weeks

They just hype you up then 100% ghost you, no emails, no justification, nothing

>>107093269
Idk man, I swear there's jobs but nobody is actually hiring anyone. Like they get overwhelmed with bullshit resumes they just give up or go with the guy who knows a guy. It sucks not even being able to get a temp job that is supposed to be way below what you could do. Hopefully seasonal demand should get you at least a couple months somewhere. Like UPS or target or wherever.

>salary, always asking for the lower end
I am under the belief you are supposed to ask a bit high, like mid to high end of their range, so they can counter with a lower offer. As stupid as it sounds, they don't actually seem interested in trying to get the cheapest worker possible. I think there's an assumption that the less someone is willing to except the worse he must be at the job

>>107093293
>100 applications
It really is more like 1000s in a couple days. And from what I have heard, they are hiring at lower rates too. Hirers are complaining because they can't so much noise in the applications and AI tuned resumes are making it impossible to determine who would actually be a good fit so they don't even end up hiring anyone a lot of times then maybe wait until someone in the company can refer someone they actually know is capable

>>107092867
apps like WhisprGPT

>>107092995
what platform did you apply to get that job?

>>107093397
Something they do a lot is contact people working for rival companies.
They offer a better pay and see who bites.

They probably believe it's better to hire someone that has a similar job for a long time and is probably reliable, than to hire someone who may or may not be a good fit.

>>107093397
The only people getting hired in pre-AI rates are Latinos, Indians etc. People that will be more than happy to do your 20$/hr job for 6$. I'm seeing more and more "latam only" "Indonesia only" stuff.

>>107093270
They gotta be doing this shit on purpose. Sick fucks get off on humiliating people like this

>>107093270
>>107093344
You probably do so already, but just in case don't forget to check your spam. Recruiter emails often end up going there, probably because they're sending out so many emails to random addresses.

>get an OA
>get ready for it
>they want $15
ofc it's a fucking scam

>>107093065
>the job market for actual Americans.
I had no idea all job markets belonged to america.

>>107093772
Americans generally cannot comprehend life existing outside the US.

>>107093397
Referrals have generally been the best way of recruiting anyway. Both ways really, since if someone I knew asked if I wanted to come work for the place they worked at, I could presume it being a good fit for me too, since they know what I can do.

>>107093871
I just got referred to a job, don't think I'll get it though.

>>107093871
>tfw know someone who directly reports to the COO at Shopify
I'm sure it would be a good referral...

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>>107087597
i'm being forced to have an internship in my college, thank god for that. A friend didn't have that obligation and was struggling last time i talked to him. I even considered joining a new degree just to get the damn internship

>>107094047
You can't get unpaid internships by messaging people on LinkedIn for coffee chats and then asking them if you can spend time at their company?

>>107094047
My degree had work experience requirement and some tard went to work what is basically the equivalent of Best Buy. I hope he is jobless to this date.

>>107088150
>why are normies so obsessed with AI?
Remember IoT? Remember blockchain? Normies just love bandwagonning on shit.

>>107093573
My bigger fear is that my email is in his spam box. Especially since I insist on not using gmail. But replying to a thread should always show up so I doubt there's any chance he hasn't seen it

>>107094086
>>107094118
I already tried one unpaid internship, however, after a month of waiting, because of the bureaucracy, I ended up losing it. I even tried to just work there for free, but it was a big company with too much bureaucracy. Now I'm in limbo, because I would only work for about a month and then have to restart in January due to again more college bureaucracy.

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>>107093573
>check your spam
You just reminded me of the most embarrassing attempt at a scam I ever got.

>>107090744
Alright, send me a link to apply for your company.

>>107094215
>>107088150

What pisses me off about it all is how it's all fake. AI can barely do 20% of what people expect out of it, but normies are completely hypnotized by it and want AI everything now.

We have shit like fridges with AI, AC units with AI. Why the fuck would you want a fridge with AI? Why is this necessary whatsoever?

My companies product manager keeps having heated arguments with my team and a few other teams because he believes everything should be handled by AI and we're causing a "waste of potential". He wants AI to answer phone calls, sell products to people and other crazy shit which would be a PR disaster.

>>107094396
>He wants AI to answer phone calls
Every company has done this so I always ask to speak to an agent immediately because the AI has no decision making power.

>>107094414
He wants AI to handle the entire phone call. As in, AI talking to you pretending to be a customer agent.

>>107093108
Didn't some guy try to do that in Arkansas but a bunch of Jewish lawyers shut him down?

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>website URL field
I am a backend developer first and foremost, I don't have a portfolio and even if I did I wouldn't know what to put in it because my work experience is closed source/private or APIs, and the things I could actually put there are hobby game projects that might make me seem unprofessional or completely unrelated to what I am currently applying to.
Of course I always link to my GitHub when prompted, but more of the same applies to that as well.
If there are any backend devs here, what do you do in this situation?

>>107094545
>>website URL field
Linkedin :))))))

>>107094462
No

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>>107094635

>>107093108
>just spend millions upon millions of dollars to construct, educate, and equip your own miniature civilization that consists of you and your cousins and then defend it from the U.S. government and hoards of bomb-throwing leftists and starving third-worlders that can't buy food at the supermarket because their EBT cards ran out of money.

sure bro. great story.

>>107094545
time to make a hobby project that also includes a frontend :^)
enjoy learning React :^)))))
useState, brother!

Is the Azure AI engineer certification a good one to have?

>>107094675
Go live in new Hampshire or something, or as I like to say it "the shire".

>>107094819
I think you have me confused with some other anon.

>>107094797
SOMEONE REPLY.

I already have all 5 azure fundamentals certifications but they are not enough it seems.

>>107094744
Claude 2.5 is react

>>107094797
Are you a jeet?

>>107095142
I ask again: are you a jeet?

>>107095162
>>107095182
Stupid newfag

>>107093058
this message is for you and only for you: even if it were that you are all that remains of America, then the spirit of America will not perish until that moment when you draw your last breath on this godforsaken planet. And the rabbles and richmen would hardly notice that the light of the world had extinguished.

I find this thought somehow inspiring.

>Finish interview
>Dude ask if I can commute and when I can start
It's happening bros???? Maybe can get my hopes up???

>>107095269
not yet

>>107095269
things are looking up.
but nothing is guaranteed until that shit is in your hand.

>>107093325
Just fake it bro. 3 more years and you start applying for senior roles. Don't sweat it, most people are equally clueless about architecture even at the senior level.

>>107076123
Google wanted me to spend 2-3 weeks on practicing for LeetCode Hard questions. I looked at them and after seeing N-Queens I thought: There's no way I would think up a solution for something like that right on the spot, especially under pressure.
So I just said no.

>>107093325
>I just left my first job
So you willingly decided to die of starvation.

>hung over, try to reschedule interview 3 hours before it's supposed to happen
>a week passes
>they actually reschedule it, but they email me 4 hours before it's supposed to happen
>sleep through it
my fault og

>>107093325
you don't need a mentor if you can mentor yourself. read books on software architecture written by well-known software architects. Mark Seeman is good, though niche, Martin Fowler comes to mind.

>>107095463
Does starting at A1 and if another queen is on same row, column or diagonal then try next square nested 8 times not work?

>>107093461
a local one, only for my country
where are you from?
you should try applying to your local job sites, cause there the only competion you have are from your country, as opposed to international

>>107095523
My point was not about a good solution for that task in particular, but rather that if that's the difficulty level to be expected then I wouldn't think that one up on the spot.

>>107095442
>it's ok bro all the fake seniors don't know anything so it is ok to not know anything and still be a senior like me because being a senior just involves sitting an a chair for 5 years and not actually knowing anything
yeah and if you slip into medically induced coma for 15 years then you can wake up and apply to CTO rolls.
yep.

>>107095561
He's right

>>107093325
Static analysis tools are basically all you need

>>107095568
(sigh)
Given: Martial arts school A promises all students achieve a black belt within two years.
Given: Martial arts school B promises that only if you train hard and often then will be possible to achieve green belt within three years.

Which martial arts school should I attend if my intent is to be able to defend myself effectively in a street fight?

>>107095640
>Which martial arts school should I attend if my intent is to be able to defend myself effectively in a street fight?
The entire premise here is false. You should not expect street fights to be fair. This means the opponent can bring a knife, gun, baton or have guys backing him up.
Just run away.

>>107095492
I went from one job to another for more pay it's just another shit environment.

>>107095946
>>107095465
Tagged wrong. I hate mobile

I got a Certified Splunk Consultant with all the pre-reqs (Architect and Admin + Phantom/SOAR) valid thru 2027. Is it a good idea to get a cushy job in house or go self-employed route?

>>107096241
>Certified Splunk Consultant
Is this a porn thing?

>>107096284
Yes. It means I can coach porn stars on how to ejaculate bigger loads and maintain strong erections.

>>107096284
its actually a big new tech company where zoomers like to work.

>>107096346
it's owned by Cisco now

>>107091753
>tapestry
good robot

I just think that in a time where we might not have money, it'd be thrilling to at least have CULTURE...

>>107093270
if i were in your situation i would literally murder somebody

could be myself idk

>>107095269
it ain't over until it's over, as the other guy has shown

>>107095799
>just run away
your entire premise is false; an escape route is not always available.

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are you fucking shitting me?
Just to fucking APPLY????

Are any of you data engineers?
How is the data engineering market?

>>107096858
Don't bother with it

>>107096864
as bad as swe, fitting bc de is pretty much just a specialization of swe

>>107096858
actually that sounds like fun. Just use a chatbot to write a bullshit text vaguely related to what you may or may not have done. Read through it, edit it to match your taste. Really internalize it and feel it. If you have a BW printer at home - print out the text and put your smartphone so that you look into it while you read the text. It may take a few takes but I'd do it. Sounds fun even if they don't take you application.
t. 35 year old employed "engineer".

>>107072423
I just know you don’t bathe you commie fuck

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Any of you dern fellers know yer way round a price and account-free email finder thingamanob? I'd like to directly email recruiters with a firm handshake and eye contact and skip the ATS rigamarole where I can!

>>107073835
What’s so bad about indiana. Just drive to prune Indiana and shake the managers hand, kiddo

>>107097124
use gmail

Bros I got my first interview in a week for an internship, I don't feel like I'm ready, what if the interviewer asks me for a leetcode I've never seen before...

>>107097435
Time to jeetcode constantly until the interview.
Good luck bwo