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FIRST FOR THE RED HAT AND SYSTEMD SUPREMACY
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>>107072692
this but unironically
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>>107072692
>>107072703
Stupid niggerfaggots
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>>107072566
alright now that our aggression is out of the way in the thread, lets dial it up, take a breather and refocus.
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>>107072731
T. Glownigger
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>>107072713
tpbp
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>>107073194
toilet paper best paper?
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I want a new graphical file manager, one I can replace Nautilus with that won't be fucking Dolphin or Thunar.
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>>107073390
give spacefm a look
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>>107073390
i just made my own
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>>107073421
It's open source, right?

>>107072731
Did I miss something?
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>>107073588
>It's open source, right?
not yet because the code is a mess but eventually
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>>107073390
>replace Nautilus
in the same boat, was testing out pcmanfm, but dunno if i installed the qt version or the non qt version. only weird quirk if i want to search, its ctrl shift f then for example *trek*, if want to search for filenames with trek anywhere and it opens a new tab with the search. not bad just different flow
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Sometimes I feel like the issue with Linux isn't just the crapload of different distros, but each one seems to have their own solutions for the same things. Their own file manager, terminal, desktop environment...
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idk if this is game specific or just an overall thing
every time i try to switch from dx11 to vulkan in path of exile the game hangs and then crashes after some time
according to protondb it should work just fine
im on nvidia if that matters
how do i troubleshoot this?
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>>107073907
buy amd gpu
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>tried swayfx after using hyprland for the last three months, against my better judgment
>have to launch it using the --usupported-gpu flag bc of nvidia so we're already off to a great start
>doesn't create its own UWSM entry, have to make it myself
>get it configred, its ok but no animations is kinda meh
>try playing world of warcraft
>game stutters but only when in full screen, this doesn't happen in any other wayland compositor I've used
>Go back to hyprland
Yeah, I'm guessing hyprland's only real competition is Niri
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>>107073907
ok i was able to change it to vulkan and hit save settings before it crashed
restarted it and it did some looong shader compiling and now everything works
idk what was wrong
>>107073928
no
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>>107073850
That's a strength because if you don't like one then you can switch to a different one. It may seem overwhelming at first but it's actually quite liberating once you realise that unlike Windows and macOS there are many, many different environments to choose from each with their own strengths and weaknesses. You can always find something.
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wtf, why do freeBSDcucks get nukes and we don't???
https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=nuke&sektion=8&manpath=FreeBSD+13.1-RELEASE+and+Ports
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>>107072566
Does Linux still not have a firewall with a GUI that asks you whether to block or allow a connection?
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>>107073390
Pcmanfm
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>>107073850
>Their own file manager, terminal, desktop environment
Not really. All of them use the same 5 DEs/file managers/terminals
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>>107074130
Opensnitch
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>>107071947
>>107071962
You are actually wanting to output audio via HDMI right? Seems like that's the right driver hmm
>It worked on Mint
what you running now?
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I haven't been able to use Inkscape on Arch Linux for a while, apparently because something called glycin broke it. I gave Penpot a try and it looks nice.
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>>107074130
Doesn't have it like that stock because it's snakeoil. You can add it on yourself with BPF abuse, aks opensnitch.
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>>107073390
I installed nemo on top of nautilus and got 0 issues.
This was on debian however, maybe arch would go to dependency hell if you do that.
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>>107074509
>Inkscape
What's broken? Looks like it's working fine on my machine
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>>107074591
>IOT instruction (core dumped) inkscape
For a few weeks, I think.
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Pro tip for those of you trying to clean up your older Linux install and remove old x11 packages: Don't remove the X11 font packages if you use a web browser.
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>>107073850
>work is duplicated
Nothing else is new. This isn't exclusive to Linux or even software development. Even Windows and macOS are affected by this.
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>>107074130
2004 called grandpa and they want ZoneAlarm back
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>>107072566
bumping
>>107071962 and >>107071947
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Thoughts on the torrent clients deluge, transmission, and qbittorrent? Which one do you recommend to use for a headless server? I've been using transmission since forever but i wanted to know if the other two are any better.
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>>107074640
>bwrap
Are you running inkscape through bubblewrap or something? Or is this the flatpak version of inkscape?
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>>107074905
transmission or qbt. Deluge is just a shitshow under the hood.
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>>107074836
Oh shit, never mind I fixed it apparently. Pulseaudio on Xubuntu is a tad weird compared to Mint Cinnamon.
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I've just switched to Bazzite from Windows and I'm liking it so far, but I notice on Firefox some website's fonts look fucked. Is there a setting I need to change?
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>>107075035
Happy 4u anon enjoy plugging it in ;)
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My buddy has had enough of Windows so wants to swap to Linux, someone recommended Zorin and it's nothing but headaches for some reason. Nothing but flatpaks, nightmare getting Wine to simply open an .exe file. Why are people recommending Zorin when it's clearly ass?
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>>107074923
If I understand correctly, gdk-pixbuf was updated to use sandboxing with glycin.
>Glycin defaults to using a sandbox. Usually, sandboxes are created by calling bwrap (bubblewrap).
https://blogs.gnome.org/sophieh/2025/06/13/making-gnomes-gdkpixbuf-image-loading-safer/
>Emmanuele Bassi changed title from Stop breaking everything to Thanks for improving gdk-pixbuf
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdk-pixbuf/-/issues/276
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>>107075035
At least briefly say what you did to fix it, for our future AI overlords
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>>107075057
download a windows 10 iso and extract the fonts
sans serif segoe ui is what you are used to
alternatively you can also use yu gothic ui which looks pretty similar to sogoe
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>>107074905
qbittorrent has my preference. qbittorrent-nox can be used if you want headless.
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>>107075057
>look fucked
post screenshot, imageboard btw
install the fonts you want and set the options?
also FF sux try Vivaldi
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How can I set a specific file inside a NTFS folder to read-only?
chattr +i returns "Invalid argument while reading flags" and chmod 444 does nothing
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>>107075094
>sophie
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>>107075160
It has to be mounted with ntfs-3g user mapping enabled.
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>>107075251
Would the permission stick if i set it on a Windows machine?
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>>107075098
>go to pulse audio
>configuration tab
>turn off Starship/Matisse
>switch Navi From Digital Stereo (HDMI 1) to Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output
Doesn't help that I glanced though the menu the first time without trying anything out.
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Is there a way to hide the wine desktop environment from popping up when you are playing games? It's a tad annoying and inconvienent.
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>>107075366
>literally a configuration issue
Next time you'll do better anon ;)
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>>107075379
It shouldn't be visible at all. Sounds like a misconfiguration.
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>>107075458
It wasn't, I had the "Emulate Virtual Desktop" option checked under graphics in winecfg, which by the way, super useful for checking what games you have installed in wine cause you'll see the launch icons on the desktop
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fedora anons what do you use to get all the cool stuff like yazi, eza, lazygit, and such? please dont tell me "manually compiling"
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I'm having this problem in a wine game I'm trying to run, pic related said that I should turn off compton and it should work but is that a good idea? I don't really know what compton is or how to turn it off but I wanted a more experienced opinion before I look up how to do it.
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>install fedora after mingling around with mint first
>always like xfce4 back in the day
>now? my task panel just disappears randomly after installing nvidia proprietary drivers
>windows key does not open the 'start menu'
Why there is always something fucking retarded? I don't have time for this shit jesus christ. It's been 20 years and things are still like this.
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>>107075516
I never heard of any of those.
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>>107075516
COPR I guess
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>>107074027
>In accordance with the normal UNIX design philosophy nuke does not prevent you from nuking yourself.
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>>107075397
I'll try for your sake anon!
>>107075563
Mint is nice because it just works, but because it "just werks" it also has a lot of guardrails and certain things you can't do with it. Mint always struggled with my dual screen set-up and constantly mixed, changed, or forgot display settings or a for display.
There's some weird audio mixing stuff going on, sometimes the suspend option disappeared and reappeared. At this point Linux is more polished than ever, and even then, you need to know the beast you are working with, which is how I can understand why people bop around flavors of the same distribution.
I actually wanted to try Debian but I downloaded the iso onto ventoy and it just didn't work for some reason.
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>>107074027
>>107075609
Is this some sort OS metagame or something? I don't understand what this is for.
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Why shouldn't I just install CachyOS?
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>>107075747
its only for heterosexual white males
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>>107075747
>Blazingly Fast
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Hello
Can someone help me to use again a wacky machine, pls. Im trying with Debian but its so laggy lol
>Cpu: Amd septmron 3400 1.808 GHz
>Ram 364mib
>Nvidia GeForce 6150se
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>>107075617
Yeah well I thought XFCE4 would be better than Mint because I had some slight issues with it and also wanted to change distro to Fedora.
I have used XFCE in the past I'm not a newcomer in this sense.
I really liked Hyprland because that was actually working the way I wanted it to work but because it's Wayland and I have nvidia drivers and have some other things to consider, I decided to ditch that.
There is always something. For the better part of the last month I've been endlessly tweaking and testing out things instead of just working on my stuff.
What do I have left? KDE Plasma and Gnome (which I won't touch even if forced at gunpoint). I wouldn't want to use Plasma because it's sort of heavy and didn't like it when I tried it.
Yeah so in this sense, for me: Cinnamon has been the best so far and Hyprland.
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>>107075789
>364MiB
Just get Alpine Linux at this point
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>>107075747
>>107075769
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sjaqRneGUcM
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It's funny that a 4chan thread has more civilized linux discussion than any of the discords
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>>107075789
Throw it away
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>>107075805
I'm a fan of xfce, I'm actually using right now with Xubuntu, but it is significantly less polished than Cinnamon in some ways, but also better in other ways. I've always wanted to try a window de like hyprland or wayland, but I could never get them to run on Mint so I just didn't bother. Mint also has an xcfe variant as well, it was kinda comfy but I only really boot it up and messed with it for an hour. Not too much of a fan of how limited you are with customizing Mint and how it doesn't like you changing shit around.
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>>107075855
trannies cant power trip here so they dont dare come here to shit up the threads
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>>107075855
Why do you have to jinx us like this...
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>>107075859
Is there a way to disable that coordinate box when moving a window around in XFCE4?
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>>107075890
I'm not on XFCE4 so your gonna have to show me a pic of it real quick.
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>>107075904
>panel preferences
>panel edit
>plugins
>disable coordinate display
>save
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XbPlAalGSJQ
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>>107076000
i'd teach her about linux if you know what i mean ;)
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ever since an update my audio just starts crackling out of nowhere in prolonged times, how do I fix this?
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>>107076000
Thank you NPC (Female) #3,020,308,472,910
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>>107076017
hardware issues, driver issues, or the audio buffer size, there really isn't any way to know which one it is without just troubleshooting your os, hardware, and audio driver
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>>107076043
cool, where should I start
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>>107076098
Start by messing with the audio buffer size, take note and save/write down/copy paste into a notepad the original audio buffer and half the amount and see if the problem persists, if it does, half the half to make sure.
If it fixes you know its the buffer size and google and look around for a correct size. If not, then look at the drivers.
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>>107075747
same boat, gonna do a clean install to a fedora 42 laptop. Dunno if to do 43 with cachyos kernel or just cachyos. My only hangup with arch is the aur getting ddos or rather it being a prime target, dont know how concern i should be with that.
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>>107076156
The AUR got DDoS'd quite a few times but all it meant was that you couldn't update for a little bit. This was very concerning because every single day there's at least 13GB worth of updates to download on anything arch.
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>>107076193
>every single day there's at least 13GB worth of updates to download on anything arch.
Maybe if you install every package under the sun
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would Mao Zedong approve?
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>>107076220
That's just by installing CachyOS with KDE and nothing on top
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>>107076232
I update once I week and most of the time it's 1-2GB
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>>107075635
I'm trying to figure out if this is a real command or not, it's likely a freeBSD inside joke. I wonder if someone wrote some "joke" manpages or commands like that for Linux.
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>>107075528
First off, compton has been dead and unmaintained for years, I doubt you're actually using it right now unless you're using some really outdated software. The cool and hip compositor that everyone now uses is picom.
Second, a compositor is the thing responsible for transparency, blurs, shadows and other fancy window effects on your desktop if you have any.
Turning it off would simply mean you lose those fancy visual effects.
Third, what desktop environment are you using? most big DE's come shipped with their own compositor.
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>>107075813
Thanks
>>107075858
I cant
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>>107076396
xfce and while we are at it, how do I check if I have lib32 installed on wine?
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>>107076431
xfce has its own compositor included with its window manager (xfwm4). To access it, go to settings > window manager tweaks > compositor
Alternatively, run 'xfwm4-tweaks-settings' from terminal then go to the compositor tab
>how do I check if I have lib32 installed on wine?
Haven't used wine much so no idea. I know wine has prefixes and that 32-bit apps will complain if you 64-bit wine prefix and vice versa, so you might check that first (although again, I don't know much about wine so take my advice with a grain of salt).
Also there should be some menu in wine that list installed DLLs, I remember tinkering with one in the past at least.
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How do I make my own custom GTK theme? what tools do I need?
I'm sick of Adwaita, and yet every other theme I could find was somehow worse. Why aren't there any good GTK themes?
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>>107072566
epic ian bread
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>>107076576
After all these years you'd think a theme editor was included with any distro... apparently that's impossible.
Idk maybe this
https://github.com/themix-project/themix-gui
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How do I get urxvt on i3 to have the text "start" at the top?
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>>107076515
Turned it off and still go the same error
>028c:err:x11drv:xinerama_get_fullscreen_monitors Failed to get xinerama fullscreen monitor indices.
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>>107076576
>what tools do I need?
An editor, CSS knowledge and GTK inspector
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>>107076691
Thank you friend, this is exactly what i needed
I will now violate the will of hundreds of gnome devs by theming my desktop
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I've started with Bazzite and now that I understand basic shit I've moved to cachyOS
is there a reason to switch to base Arch beyond OCD?
from my understanding cachyOS is basically Arch+ since I can use everything related to it while getting that extra bit of safety and security and only losing a bit to more ram use and storage taken up
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>>107076965
Is there something you want to do that cachyos can't but arch can?:
Yes -> switch to arch
No -> stay on cachyos
I don't know -> rtfm
It's that simple
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>>107077008
but I just want a qrd, not a rtfm
as far as i can see i'm not missing anything but i wanted to ask
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>>107075295
Yes.
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>>107077038
It's hard to contain ocd when using Linux, especially if you are a perfectionist or something.
Maybe try spending that effort to rice up your UI instead. Or write some scripts.
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>>107076965
it doesn't use arch repos
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How do you all organise your files? Images and all that.
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>>107077542
rename them with their md5 hash. no file extension as linux file managers handle that. caja seems to be the best but getting problems with mate recently so had to swap to kde.
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>>107077351
NTA, but I'm attempting to rice i3 myself. Part of the roadblocks I'm facing are not getting clearcut answers, or rather answers I do find are years old and seem to not apply anymore. For example, I only just got transparency down only after conceding that Xterm doesn't support it for some reason

Though I'm still trying to figure out rounded corners with borders and I'm not completely happy with how my status readout or the power control are looking. Maybe I should switch to polybar.
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Good heavens, look at the time!
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Who thought it was a good idea that when you remove an item from the panel you also default back to the original settings for that program?
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>>107072566
Dude's I'm having a bit of an issue with games, none of them are using my GPU to its full potential, and it's making me insane
On Cb2077, for example, no matter what setting I use, it'll be using at most 70% of my CPU and GPU, whilst hitting 15-45 FPS
Sometimes it'll average at 45, sometimes it'll average at 30, but it WILL snag and have a low of 10, 15, and even 6 fps sometimes. And it doesn't matter the settings, It'll MAYBE use my GPU to like 86% for a second, and then go straight back down to 70%
It makes no sense
>Ryzen 5 2600
>GTX 1660 super
>16gb 3200mhz ram
It's not a good config but it should be running ok, it ran well on windows, and there are times it ran beautifully on linux during the year I've been using it, if it was just setting stuff to low, it wouldn't be pissing the bed on low settings too
I'm on the latest stable Fedora, RPM NVIDIA drivers, hyprland(so wayland), and usually run stuff on proton, but this behavior doesn't change on linux native games, sometimes it's worse
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Where do I go for custom start button icons?
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>>107077882
Check nvidia-settings and PowerMizer - it needs to have preferred mode: Prefer Maximum Power (this is the same setting from Windows btw).
This could reset between sessions so add this
>nvidia-settings -a "[gpu:0]/GpuPowerMizerMode=1"
To somewhere in your startup scripts.
Then check
>cpupower frequency-info
You energy performance governance should be 'performance'. You can also boost the minim clock from 800GHz (or whatever it is for you) to max.
These are basic tweaks from Windows btw but other than that it's a shitshow and only thing what will help is to perhaps change Proton version or whatever.
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which is kinder to the environment: htop or btop?
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>>107077882
To add: I think compositing and the way desktop handles windows is still problematic in Linux - feels like Windows is still 20 years ahead the way borderless windows work and so on.
One thing what I would try (haven't gotten to it yet) is to launch x session with gamescope only with no window manager and go from there.
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>>107073390

what feature you want innit
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>>107077905
Boo, it doesn't fun gifs D:<
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>>107076017

open pulseaudio volumecontrol
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>>107077954
I need rice inspiration... I don't even have a theme for my computer yet....
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What would be the best Wine prefix setup for someone coming from/is more used to Windows?

>Everything under one prefix, except maybe problematic apps
>Split by general OS/era
>Every app/series is in its own prefix
>At the mercy of another program (i.e. Bottles or Lutris)
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>>107078060
>Every app/series is in its own prefix
I do this, sometimes I group them by engine since the fixes are very likely to be the same but that's about it
>At the mercy of another program (i.e. Bottles or Lutris)
FYI most launchers including steam will separate them individually. When I first switched I had everything on the main prefix (~/.wine) and I very quickly found out certain winetricks verbs could fuck everything up, specially dotnet stuff
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>>107078060
Steam will put each game on its own prefix so that tells you a lot at how Proton/Wine devs expect you to use Wine.
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Do you guys like my banner? :^)
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>>107078195
very nice anon
but this website is 18+
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>>107078060
>Everything under one prefix, except maybe problematic apps
I do this in the default prefix (cuz you can double click exes like that - watch out for virus tho), and run anything problematic in its own prefix or in a Lutris container if I want to use Proton-GE.
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>>107078200
Good thing I'm in my mid-30s and just retarded :D, but this was my test banner before I started making pixel art for it.
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>>107078060
default prefix, anything you can't just make a wine32 and change WINEARCH to win32
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>>107078060
I have both wine and bottles on my computer, sometimes programs just don't work in wine but will for a bottle and vice versa. When it comes to Linux sometimes its better to not ask questions or save it for another day.
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>>107078224
All in all we only need one fake windows environment with all the dlls. Then separate launchers for different proton versions and whatnot.
It is somewhat idiotic that every game should have its own 4+ GB large section of identical dlls.
I'm going to get to the bottom of this.
Bottles is a very shitty but the UI itself is sort of clean and understandable. Lutris is even worse in this sense, it's nothing but convolution.
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>>107078322
It doesn't really matter since BTRFS dedupes the duplicate files. Surely you use that or something else that can dedupe?
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>>107078322
>It is somewhat idiotic that every game should have its own 4+ GB large section of identical dlls.
I only have 2 wine environments a 64 and 32 and they share libraries. I only have 1 bottle that is 64 because bottles are very good at running 32-bit games on a 64-bit system for some reason while wine isn't.
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>>107076965
> from my understanding cachyOS is basically Arch+
cachyOS nothing else but kernel modification + Arch

>getting that extra bit of safety and security

switch away from tranny Arch\cachy to Nobara (rock solid Fedora) which has same modifications. IT JUST WORKS
>https://wiki.nobaraproject.org/modifications/kernel
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>>107078381
Or use filesystem overlays with bwrap, similar to what Valve does. reflink is kind of a messy solution because updates make the libraries diverge again.
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>>107078388
>IT JUST WORKS
unironically the Fedora iso I downloaded didn't when I went to try it.
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Where do you guys go for ricing inspiration?
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I want to switch to Linux but I watch a lot of vidya slop. Does Linux have 1080p to 4k upscaling like on windows?
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>>107072566
Never forget.
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>>107078460
Yes, some come built in, others you can ad via programs which may or may not be easier said than done. The two most common DEs (desktop environments aka your gui) that have that are KDE Plasma (which is resource intensive) and GNOME (which is apple slop), and even if you choose an OS that doesn't have KDE Plasma or GNOME you can always download MPV, Anime4k, and/or Upscayl for the desired effect.
AAAANNNNNNNNNDDDDDD take my advice with a huge grain of salt since I actually don't give a shit about that. I have no idea what the quality is for any of the scaling so you've been warned.
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>>107078480
>Anime4k
thanks anon
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>>107078408
I am an Apple fan <3
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>>107078493
Did you reply to me by accident?
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>>107078060
If they have installers -> separate prefix
If simply running the exe doesn't work -> separate prefix
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>>107077707
>xterm isn't intended to have transparency
damn then i must be doing something terribly wrong... please teach me how to make xterm not transparent
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I'm going to bed, if you guys are bored and want to bump the thread or something, find ricing pictures you find aesthetic and post them at me so I can get some ideas tomorrow.
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>try Cosmic because people jelqed it for a while
>it's just Gnome
Fucks sake, I just wanted to try something other than KDE that has polish and works well.
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>>107078480
>Plasma
>resource intensive
It runs smoothly on Core2Duo with integrated graphics from 2008, your definition for resource intensive is flawed.
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I've been on arch for a few years and want to try gentoo. How easy is it to point the package manager to a git repo and include it in my system?
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>>107075789
find some ram for it and it'll be a lot more useful. that's an abysmal amount of ram for that machine /even when it was new/. like that's an AM2 cpu, i did an AM2 build when it was new and due to limited money i had to start with a bare minimum amount of ram... and even that was 512M
also get a cheap ssd for it if you can, it'll help a lot, it'll be new enough to support sata
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>>107078597
90% of the time when people say bloated or resource intensive they really mean "i have shit drivers"
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>>107075789
man, even Devuan XFCE would be a better option.
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>>107078537
Wait, what!?

- How did you do that?
- What compositor are you using?
- How did you pull off rounded corners with a border?

I wonder if any of this is because you're using Awesome instead of i3...
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>>107078322
Wine uses symlinks when possible. It's a few kilobytes of symlinks.
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>>107078733
You didn't quite understand.
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X11 or wayland?
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>>107078143
>>107078160
>>107078504
to add to this, i have a default prefix intended for general programs however also got other prefixes for "type" and "series" of programs, for example for photoshop and any other adobe program i may end up using i got a dedicated wine prefix configured for it with all the necessary libraries for photoshop cs6 to work which are

gdiplus msxml3 msxml6 atmlib dxvk vcrun2019 vcrun2012 vcrun2013 vcrun2010


i just install them with winetricks and add a regedit theme to the whole prefix to better match the dark colors of photoshop cs6, the regedit theme is here: https://gist.github.com/Zeinok/ceaf6ff204792dde0ae31e0199d89398?permalink_comment_id=5509121#gistcomment-5509121

then i simply have this runscript for photoshop

#!/bin/sh
export WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.local/share/wineprefixes/photoshop"
wine "$HOME/Downloads/Photoshop portable/Photoshop cs6 portable/PSCS6.exe"
unset WINEPREFIX


so that i can have a more "natively" integrated photoshop, .desktop file and all

on the other hand for touhou games i just use https://github.com/eylles/touhou-setup as that creates the runscripts and .desktop files for any game u can get off the green shrine and even gives you the option of having a config file, which i use to get every game to use the touhou wine prefix.
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>>107078744
x11 until you are forced to wayland
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>>107075563
Fedora isn't exactly a good choice for either XFCE or nvidia. For Fedora you want Gnome or Plasma and AMD. If you have Nvidia it has to be a new GSP card.
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>>107078767
Pascal works well enough for KDE Wayland in my experience. Granted, the 580 series will be the last drivers released for Pascal.
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>>107078754
But if I'll be forced to wayland eventually, why not wayland now?
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>>107078772
I know you can make it work, but it's made more painful on Fedora than the latest cards that support open kernel modules that you can easily install through the software center.

Unless I remember wrong and the proprietary modules show up there now too.
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>>107078786
enjoy x11 till the end. run wayland on a spare comp to keep up with what is going on.
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>>107078709
picom, literally just picom, this be my config and just works

a pastebin of my config, grab it while you can as it will expire in a year, after that you'll need to keep eyes open for a rice of awesomewm that looks like mine and publishes dotfiles cuz i will eventually do that, some day tm
https://pastebin.com/tjwQu0Eg
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>>107074509
problem with penpot is that exporting to pdf(?) gives you lowres images. made me stop using it.
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>>107078797
What's the issue with wayland?
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>>107078816
in spite of the agenda that wayland pushers want to push wayland is not truly production ready, it no longer is on beta software state but is not stable nor standarized, everything is fragmented and everyone implements custom protocols however they see fit, there are like 3 "standar" libraries that are incompatible with each other and are used arbitrarely by different projects, not to mention none of the major desktop environments use them effectively creating a huge fragmentation and standarization problem as there is for example no such thing as a cross-compositor nor cross-deskto-environment way to configure your mouse acceleration, touchpad sensitivity, drawing tablet options, screen options, etc... and that is without mentioning that few programs do natively support wayland so upwards of 80 to 90% of the software you run will have the overhead of running on xwayland, an x11 server session running inside wayland...
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>>107078840
Why are there so many hyprlandfags then?
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>>107075035
isn't pulseaudio the worst sound 'driver' quality wise?
better of using pipe-wire or even better, jack2.
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>>107078851
they are all archfags, the archfags NEED their system to break and not work so that they got an excuse to spend time fixing it and pretend that makes them L337 H4XX0RZ
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Package (1) Old Version New Version Net Change Download Size

cachyos/chwd 1.16.0-1 1.16.1-1 -0.01 MiB 1.04 MiB

Total Download Size: 1.04 MiB
Total Installed Size: 3.69 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: -0.01 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]

Please do the needful!
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>>107078744
Depends on the DE. X11 is on life support on GNOME and KDE so you don't have much of a choice
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>>107078899
What if I don't use a DE?
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>>107077914
Top
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>>107078804
Bah! The corner thing isn't working on my end. Neither is the transparency for Xterm, though it might be because I'm stuck with the (newer?) "rules" syntax.
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>>107078788
If you have an older card, Fedora prompts you during install to enable rpmfusion-nvidia, and has since at least Fedora 38.
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>>107078840
>as there is for example no such thing as a cross-compositor nor cross-deskto-environment way to configure your mouse acceleration, touchpad sensitivity, drawing tablet options, screen options, etc...
That's not a real issue. You open the settings app (or plain text config file) and config it. It's not like Xorg.conf is completely standardised either, depending on your hardware you will have any number of non-standard driver specific options in it (NVIDIA…).
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>>107078944
you should really NOT mix the rules syntax with the old syntax, i'm on picom 12.5 in devuan but i use the old syntax only cuz i have not migrated my config to the new syntax, should do that some time soon tho.
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>>107078862
If it is, I haven't noticed it lol
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>>107078972
Yeah, if I do and then try to start picom manually, it gives a warning saying as much
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>>107078882
>Why do gardeners have such nice gardens?
I don't know anon, maybe they just enjoy working on them and being in them...
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>>107078597
>your definition for resource intensive is flawed.
Name a more resource intensive DE, I'll wait.
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>>107079024
Arch is Gentoo for people who don't know how to install Gentoo.
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>>107079032
Unity and it's not even close.
I know it's from reddit and from 2020 but christ
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fjvgrxwm9w5461.png
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>>107079035
I don't see what the distro has to do with the point
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What is dbus and do i need it?
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>>107079040
>unity
you mean the DE that almost no one uses?
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>>107079055
You asked about resource intensive. Not resource intensive AND actively used. In which case it's Gnome.
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>>107079035
Arch and Gentoo are meant for completely different people. Regardless of whether you know how to install Gentoo (it's not hard), if it doesn't fit your needs then you won't use it.
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>>107079065
>GNOME 3 with unoptimized extra bits
I'm still waiting....
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>>107079071
They're identical in that they're designed for the insufferable who think it's not Linux unless it breaks every other update.
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>>107079044
It is an RPC service that allows applications to talk to each other in a standardised way. Usually it's used for desktop services, for example, notifications or MPRIS (media player control), etc, but some system services use it too (Systemd uses it extensively).
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>>107079044
A program that allows an application (a program) to talk to the kernel (the OS) to talk to each other.
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>>107079078
Neither breaks each update. You're far more likely to have a broken fedora install.
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>>107079044
>and do i need it?
If you aren't a developer no. Other programs might need and use it for w/e reason so its best to just leave it.
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>>107079078
In the case of Gentoo they actually have different tracks (KEYWORDS) available that let you choose from stable, testing or unstable packages. Arch is always rolling on the other hand.

Most things on a stable Gentoo system never break because all of the new changes hit testing first and it you're using that then you already know what you're in for and are encouraged to file bug reports as and when you encounter them.
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>>107078851
I prefer x myself but tested out Hyprland and I really liked it. It's easy to configure and it does what you say. It's not obscure at all and theming it is easy too. I just personally wasn't happy with Wayland at that point etc. Hyprland is an antithesis to gtk stuff easily.
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>>107079092
On arch you have a choice too, genius. Well, arch has 2 choices instead of 3 except when it comes to kernel. In that case arch has more choices than 3.
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>>107079116
That's a hardware failure, an os isn't gonna make your computer stop turning on.
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>>107079133
it probably does turn on, what the user most likely means is that it won't boot and goes to GRUB or it does boot, but the kernel is fucked so they just stare at a black screen.
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>>107079108
Arch doesn't do stable packages it's always rolling (equivalent to testing in Gentoo).

In Gentoo you will have, for example, older GCC and Python, etc, on stable compared to what is in testing but Arch will always have the latest except for a very small and brief integration period where a new version passes through their testing repos. They don't have a real stable repo, it's always rolling. What they do have though is some LTS packages packaged (for example the kernel or Firefox ESR, etc) but that's it.
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>>107079133
arch did back when they broke grub with an epic packaging error
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>>107079146
GRUB is easy AF to fix.
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hello. what is the /g/ approved clipboard manager for Linux mint cinnamon edition?
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>>107079170
Doesn't cinnamon ship with a clipboard manager?
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>>107079183
it does? this is great news!
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I couldn't sleep so I made a cat icon for my application menu
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>>107079219
forgot the picture
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>wifi speed slows down to a crawl roughly once a day
>reboot machine
>it's fast again
>this occurs on two seperate computers
does this sound like a network issue of a linux issue? i have no idea how to even begin troubleshooting this.
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>>107079307
Could be something in your house.
I once had a laptop whose wifi did the same thing if I placed a half-empty water bottle close to it. EM radiation is weird.
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>>107079307
is your mum using the microwave when these slowdowns happen?
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>>107079378
Yes, she is heating up my tendies. I live in the cellar.
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>>107075094
Huh thats interesting and pretty cool that they're sandboxing libraries
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>>107075528
I think this can be solved by either enabling or disabling the wine virtual desktop
>>107075747
They compile stuff with LTO which can either have performance issues or perform better
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>>107079508
Wine virtual desktop glues the game window in one place.
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>>107079486
note down the times when the slowdowns occur and when you are served your tendies. have ai make graphs and whatnot.
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I want to install a new distro on my 2015 Thinkpad x250. I don't know how well the little guy holds out hardware wise. For now I got Ubuntu 20.04 on there but I was thinking of jumping to fedora. For some reason neither the software centre nor the updater can get connection to the internet despite my browser doing fine.
Either Ubuntu or fedora, what's a good surface? I prefer windows-alike but KDE is supposedly super resource intensive. I heard good about Mate and bad about Cinnamon. Or do I need to go with a minimalist desktop with such hardware?
I mostly use the laptop to browser, typing and sometimes making images with krita or editing photos with dark table.
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>>107079620
default cachyos
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>>107079628
>uses KDE
Okay, why not just Fedora KDE then? Its what runs on my desktop anyway.
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>>107079644
KDE isn't as resource intensive as people claim. An X250 will run it just fine.
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I've been using debian XFCE since forever. I don't need more for over 4 years now.

It has a up to date kernel always with whatever period of hardware its in now its 6.12 so works perfectly with my 6700XT and Ryzen 5600X, the desktop runs on X11 and just werks, stable packages, very minimal updates. Always a fresh install on a new version.

What distro do you guys use?

>>107073390
You don't need more than thunar or XFCE it simply is the best file manager/desktop on linux and one of the most stable and fast.

>>107075090
Most of beginner linux distros sucks. Even mint which is the most "just werks" is now doing retarded theming changes and after years they STILL wont get rid of nemo which is unanimously agreed upon the slowest and worst file manager on linux. Linux mint cinnamon would be perfect if it used pcmanfm instead of nemo or even thunar.

Beginner linux distros are regressing but if you need a GUI to do things in linux you have to understand linux isn't windows. Learn linux and it will be good forever.

For example you need the know how of how proton works and how prefixes work. A new person doesnt know what the Z: drive is or how to even run a .exe, run a repack or even how to install vcredist with winetricks/protontricks GUI
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>>107079620
>KDE is supposedly super resource intensive.
This information is made under the assumption that Linux users are poorfags who can't afford more than 2 GB RAM. If your x250 is equipped with at least 4 GB RAM you can run any desktop environment you want.
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>>107079726
lmao wtf is that captcha
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>>107079146
Who the fuck uses grub when systemdboot exists?
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Loonduck be gettin' da big hits mon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1UvD34S-0U
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>>107079773
grub just works, also that reminds me, i should fork systemdboot outside the systemd tree, perhaps something called egummyboot to honor the name it had before being devoured into the guts of the blob of code that is systemd
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>>107079773
Anyone that wants convenient multiboot and/or doesn't want to deepthroat redhat?
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>>107079729
I would say 8 GB is the ideal minimum for multi-tasking (a RAM upgrade is cheap if it's not soldiered) but otherwise this is accurate.
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>>107079830
so does systemdboot with 1/10 of the size

>>107079833
oh no, red hat bad!!!!!
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>>107079726
Also I should add what I was trying to say with the whole linux is not windows thing is I don't think linux will ever be a GUI interface centric OS so it's good to learn how everything works even on something like debian 13.

It will always be terminal based because distros like mint will do their own changes and eventually self sabotage themselves like they are doing now, but they still have the only good GUI linux distro so you have no choice but to go with them.

An example of this is nemo being deeply integrated into the cinnamon desktop system so much so that if you even try to remove it and replace it it uninstalls cinnamon, WOW. Or how despite XFCE/MATE not being developed by the mint team, they decide to push new color schemes for libadwaita and updates towards that even if people don't want it. They are forcing changes on people like me that don't want that.

Or how MX linux will never be stop using the side taskbar as their default layout even though nobody likes it, yet MX tools and MX packages are still some of the best GUI programs for installing .deb and flatpak on linux and updating your system.
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>>107079840
Nice that you ignored the first half of my post. No argument, eh?
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>>107079830
There's really no point in doing that when you can just build only Systemd Boot with the right meson args.
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>>107079836
>a RAM upgrade is cheap
Not anymore...
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>>107079854
DDR2 and DDR3 RAM is still cheap as chips
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>>107079854
x250 is using DDR3L, which is around $20-$30 for 16 GB. That's pretty cheap.
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>>107079855
Because nobody wants the power-guzzling e-waste that it goes into.
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>>107079864
Exactly. If you have a modern computer then you put enough RAM into it in the first place. The only people upgrading their RAM are either people that didn't buy enough in the first place or people with old laptops.
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Apart from the release model is there anything I should know that's different between Debian and Arch as a user?
Also how important really is the latest mesa and kernel for gaymes and other software?
I'm not afraid to compile myself, but I feel like if it was too often it'd defeat the point.
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>>107079893
This is why Fedora is superior. New release every 6 months, meaning you aren't using the finest packages of 1876 like you would with Debian, but without constantly breaking shit like you would with Arch.
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>>107079901
Yeah I'm looking at Fedora too actually. Doesn't that get kernel updates like rolling? What about Mesa?
Could you tell me the difference between that and Arch and Debian for a desktop user?
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>>107079907
Fedora is generally at most 1 kernel update behind kernel.org, and frequently at the most recent kernel.
Difference between Fedora and Debian is Debian only updates the package versions every 2 years. So at first the packages will be recent but then they fall behind.
They backport security fixes but new features is usually a no.
Arch is full rolling with almost no QA besides automated tests. If you're fine with fixing or rolling back packages, Arch is okay.
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>>107079893
>Apart from the release model is there anything I should know that's different between Debian and Arch as a user?
Arch only has a CLI or TUI installer while Debian has a graphical installer. That's really the only other difference that matters. Some people will say AUR is also relevant, but using AUR is as retarded as using 3rd party repos in Debian.
>Also how important really is the latest mesa and kernel for gaymes and other software?
Pretty important for games. Outside of that it's only relevant for media playback/generation efficiency or hardware compatibility.
>compile myself
This is not always possible or recommended.

>>107079907
>Fedora
>Doesn't that get kernel updates like rolling? What about Mesa?
It's always using the latest stable kernel instead of the LTS kernel. But it's not using the mainline kernel like a rolling release distro would.
I'm pretty sure it's not using the rolling release version of Mesa by default. Distros like Bazzite and Nobara manually pull the latest version since it's needed for maximum gaymes compatibility.
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>>107078537
Most of xterms configuration is done through an xresources file which can be placed wherever you want but needs to be called on startup and on upon any changes with xrdb
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>>107079893
Debian has synaptic package manager GUI while arch really doesnt have an alternative as good.

Debian is a stable release so that means updates are only security like 100kb only which is good for people who want an updated system with stability.

Debian comes with MTP support and CUPS installed out of the box and has a graphical installer while arch does not.

You can use any kernel on debian with backports including the latest 6.16

I used corectrl on debian 12 backports for many years. It was only one package that I needed from backports and now its in debian 13 as a standard package. Corectrl I need for GPU management and fan control and its great software similar to MSI afterburner.

I'll be using debian 13 until 2030 until debian 15.
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>>107079923
Fedora seems to track behind Mesa, looking at the repo.
They got 25.1.9 as the latest on Fedora 42, but 25.2.5 on Fedora 43. Looks like they only update to the next point release at the next Fedora release.
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>>107079952
Bear in mind in the Linux world, stable doesn't mean no bugs. It means no updates.

Stable = it crashes in the same way every time.
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>>107079893
Debian installs each kernel version as a seperate package and the kernel image file and initramfs are suffixed with its version e.g vmlinuz-6.1.0-39-amd64 while arch doesnt do this and just replaces the files to vmlinuz without any suffixes
The kernel modules for your current running kernel also gets deleted when you upgrade the kernel so modprobing stuff wont work after upgrade if you need to load another module that wasnt loaded automatically unless you use one of those scripts that make a backup
Arch also doesn't split headers and stuff into -dev packages.
The same logic used for kernel upgrades can also be applied to libraries and stuff. Arch doesnt support partial upgrades while debian can be slightly more forgiving.
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>>107079955
You're right about that. I'm just saying it's not "rolling release". Rolling release would mean that Fedora 42 would've already had Mesa 25.2.x for a while just like Bazzite and Nobara did even when they were based on Fedora 42.
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>>107079547
You could try running the game through gamescope instead of wine virtual desktop
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>>107079962
Predictable behaviour is a good thing
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>>107075859
Well mint is really supposed to be designed for people who just want to use their pc without tinkering or installing other desktops. You would be better off using ubuntu without a DE or debian if you want to try out stuff like custom wms.
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>>107075789
Antix, tinycore or puppy
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>>107078972
Are you using devuan with sysvinit or another init system?
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>>107079989
That's true. That's why ultimately Flatpaks and immutable distributions will prevail.
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>>107079955
Cant you just use steam or heroic flatpak for more up to date mesa versions since they bundle their own runtimes? And then keep all your other software stable.

I use heroic and steam flatpak and it runs pretty well on debian for gaming
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>>107079773
Systemd boot only supports exfat
>>107079830
There used to be a fork of systemd-boot called gummiboot but got depreciated by one of the kernel efi boot config options.
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>>107080006
What version of Mesa does the Steam Flatpak even use? I thought it was based on their official Debian package which defaults to an LTS version of Mesa?
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>>107078597
I've been using kde in a vm and its been working fine though i still prefer xfce
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>>107080013
Probably uses the latest version since the steam package is just a bash install script to setup a ubuntu 12.04 chroot or something similar with the steam client and all its libraries/packages inside it.
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>>107080013
My flatpak mesa on my system is 25.2.6 and I updated it too.

So the mesa 25.2.6 version which released on October 29th, 2025.

So its literally bleeding edge mesa on flatpak not bad. Arch kill now?
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Creating an EXT4 here.
>"File systems with an inode size of 128 bytes do not support timestamps beyond January 19, 2038. Inodes which are 256 bytes or larger will support extended timestamps, project id’s, and the ability to store some extended attributes in the inode table for improved performance" t. mke2fs man page
What is this "improved performance" about? I don't care about the year 2038 bug nor extended attributes.
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>>107080024
>the steam package is just a bash install script to setup a ubuntu 12.04 chroot
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>>107080050
>store some extended attributes in the inode table for improved performance
Otherwise they're stored elsewhere and you have to wait for another read (and seek, on HDDs).
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>>107080042
>Arch kill now?
more like package maintainers are kill now. at this point I'm convinced that all anti-flatpak posts are made by some neckbeard package maintainers trying to cling to relevancy.
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>>107080042
what's the point of debian if you just flatpak everything?
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>>107080288
The existence of flatpak has solved distro wars. There's no point in using any distro, so it's completely up to a person's personal preference and what ootb experience they want to have. If the anon is happy with Debian then that's all that matters.
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>>107080327
Why doesn't everyone use Debian if that's the case? Stable system base, latest user software.
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I get this crash every day on KDE Ubuntu. Don't even know what causes it
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>>107080335
Because it doesn't provide a sufficient enough ootb experience for most people.
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Does anyone here have HDR correctly working on GNOME with an nvidia GPU? I know I know, not many people have a monitor with decent HDR capabilities and many people here think it's a meme but I'm asking in case there's a chance.
It's weird, it works fine with games (that support it natively or use something like RenoDX), but it displays weird color banding everywhere else. The output (as displayed by the monitor OSD) is the same as Plasma, 10bit color. But only Plasma has "correct" colors, at least no banding noticeable.
It's specially noticeable if I open firefox and then this website on sfw boards. The blue gradient at the top isn't smooth anymore. Drop shadows aren't smooth either, but that's less noticeable. It's like color management isn't quite right. But WINE on Wayland displaying HDR does work as it should.
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>>107080335
You don't even have that stable system base anymore if you flatpak everything.
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>>107080353
That's the input method framework for Gnome/GTK environments.
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>>107080383
I did a rdepends and it looks like the gnome desktop package relies on this. I'm reluctant to throw out the whole thing because I like having it for redundancy purposes (also I type in Cyrillic). But I might have to purge the whole thing
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>>107080371
GNOME being shit shouldn't surprise you

>a monitor with decent HDR capabilities
decent? I dunno if it has any.
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>>107080390
Yeah it's needed for that. On KDE you'd normally use https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fcitx5 I think.
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>>107080390
oh wait, false alarm. Autoremoved ibus and everything still works including cyrillic
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> AUR is down again
> *prays to anubis girl to be my gf*
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Im running HellDivers 2 on linux (KDE Fedora) via the proton layer in steam and so far, it ran perfectly for weeks, but today I noticed the resolution was off. My display is 2560x1440 but the highest the display settings on HD2 go is 2048x1152. My desktop resolution is correct. Either I never noticed this (unlikely) or something's wrong. Doesnt matter if I run it in windowed, fullscreen or borderless.
Does anyone know similar issues?
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>>107080850
Are you using display scaling? If you are then stop doing that and set the scale factor to 1.0
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>>107076000
>claims to be tech youtuber
>I asked chatgpt what linux is
After NNN is over I'm gonna jerk off to her if she has OF or something, otherwise it's just a meme channel and should be ignored.
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>>107080850
Sounds like your display is scaled to 125%.
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>>107080878
I do use Scaling, but it always worked so far. Removing the scaling did fix it in HD2 for now. Guess Ill have to apply Page scaling in my browser instead to be able to read those tiny letters.
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>>107080988
With scaling games render at the unscaled resolution and the compositor scales it up. You can use gamescope to workaround that if you want but its simplest to just disable the scaling.
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Using steamdeck dteam os.

The discovery store will not stop loading. I have waited a long time and it doesnt get past loading.

What can I do? I tried erasing cache etc
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what are the steps I should take to go from a fresh archlinux install to a good and usable desktop mostly used for browsing and using libreoffice
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>>107081142
Install KDE Plasma and Flatpak (Discover is optional if you want a GUI) and then install LibreOffice from there.
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>>107072566
How do I make Clonezilla-style images of drives that aren't currently mounted/running? It's not the system drive I'm currently using I want to backup, so I don't need/want to boot into a live USB if I can help it. But I would like to use Clonezilla to restore these images, so it has to be compatible.
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>>107081255
You can install Clonezilla on whatever system you're running and use it there.
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>>107081255
you can just install and run clonezilla... you don't need to use the clonezilla livecd
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>>107079893
man if you are a gaymer just go for fedora already, its more friendly to retards too.
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>>107079508
>I think this can be solved by either enabling or disabling the wine virtual desktop
No way, I'll try that later and report back.
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>>107079991
>You would be better off using ubuntu without a DE or debian if you want to try out stuff like custom wms.
I'm on xubuntu now.
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>>107081263
>>107081279
Oh my god, I'm an idiot. Still, the site made it look like that's all there was. Thanks.
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>>107079893
>Also how important really is the latest mesa and kernel for gaymes and other software?
It cant be that critical because there would be a load of complaints about games not working on Fedora, Ubuntu and Mint
And for debian you can always use backports and be relatively up to date with both of those
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>>107077954
if you can't run application menu icons as .gifs can your run them as video? Gemini seems to think so for some reason.
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>>107081400
Gemini is stupid.
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>>107081521
Sadly, I know this too well, on the other hand when setting a custom neofetch image is it always temporary?
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>>107081066
flatpak install flathub io.github.kolunmi.Bazaar

run that and use Bazaar instead of Discover.
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>>107078804
>picom
Are you using some other fork or the one straight from the repository?
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the mugshot in the user profile picture? I want my hovering miku to not hover and I can't find the original image dimensions
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>>107079307
My son's tablet can't download anything over WiFi while the microwave oven is running. Once the oven beeps, downloads resume.
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>>107080076
kek, so true

>>107079773
Pretty much everyone.
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>>107079032
False premise. The initial poster said "resource intensive", which is false.
Whether it uses more resources than some cut-down dysfunctional DE or not is irrelevant here.
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>>107079032
Deepin and GNOME
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do I need a firewall on linux
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>>107082350
yes
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>>107082350
no
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>>107082350
Are you hosting services? Do you want to protect access to those services or set simple request rate limits, etc? If not, then no, you don't need a firewall.
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>>107082419
the only internet related thing i'm going to do is browse
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Tried installing xborders because it was supposed to be a workaround for i3 not having "proper" curved borders. I installed the requirements, even setting up a venv like some others on GitHub did even though the instructions don't say anything about that, only to be hit with this

[arch@archlinux xborder]$ ./xborders --help
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/arch/xborder/./xborders", line 14, in <module>
gi.require_version("Gtk", "3.0")
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'gi' has no attribute 'require_version'


The fact that xborders hasn't been updated in 2 years doesn't fill me with much hope either.
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>>107082350
You already have one, just need to configure it. If you can't handle nftables directly (it's easy if you have any networking knowledge, just RTFM) and are coming from Windows, try OpenSnitch, it's a decent GUI frontend.

>>107082419
>If not, then no, you don't need a firewall.
This is false since IPv6. Every machine is reachable from the Internet on all ports and you should have at least a minimal firewall configuration. Allow ICMP, allow all outgoing, allow connection-tracked incoming, deny everything else.
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>>107082448
Then no, you don't need a firewall if you aren't dealing with incoming requests.
>>107082453
Your router should have a firewall that blocks incoming/forwarded IPv6 packets except for already established connections.
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>>107082465
>>107082453
Although you should definitely probe and test your routers behaviour, it should have a firewall but of course shitty manufacturers may not have configured it properly.
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>>107082465
>Your router should
No. You're still thinking in IPv4 terms. Routers should do minimal work with IPv6, obtain a prefix and announce it to local hosts so they can pick their own addresses as needed. Unless you're ultra paranoid the forward chain on a router for IPv6 should be empty defaulting to accept.
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>>107082507
Your router has to forward the traffic regardless. It's not doing any extra work just because you set it correctly to default DENY instead of ACCEPT.
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>>107082453
>Every machine is reachable from the Internet on all ports
bullshit.

> Allow ICMP, allow all outgoing, allow connection-tracked incoming, deny everything else.
Congrats, now he won't get an IPv4 either.
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>>107082465
>Your router should have a firewall that blocks incoming/forwarded IPv6 packets except for already established connections.
You're making a bold assumption that every router is trustworthy.
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>>107082557
You should test it yourself, yes. Go and start a service running on [::] and see if you can reach it from the Internet.
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>>107082566
If you aren't hosting any services then there's literally nothing to reach anyway though, and no, allowing ICMPv6 isn't insecure, it's in fact necessary for the protocol to work, and especially important for PMTU discovery.
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>>107082566
>see if you can reach it from the Internet.
how do I test this from the internet?
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>>107082588
Use one of those open port checkers or if you another machine like a VPS then you can test it on that.
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>>107082525
>Your router has to forward the traffic regardless.
Defaulting to accept with an empty chain is optimal, and some routers have switch chips capable of L3 routing with which the CPU doesn't even need to be bothered. But if you add rules then the CPU will always be called upon. It matters on high speed connections.

>>107082545
The entire point of IPv6 was restoring the end to end connectivity that IPv4 NAT destroyed. When IPv6 is properly configured there should be nothing but simple routing going on between two distant hosts. If you want local-only communication you are supposed to use the fc00::/7 ULA range, which is unroutable on the Internet.

>Congrats, now he won't get an IPv4 either.
Those rules are for IPv6 only, numbnuts. Different protocols, different rules.
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>>107082635
Your router is shit if its CPU can't handle connection tracking properly.
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>>107072566
I am not joking, I am on the verge of FUCKING INSANITY
I WILL PAY WHATEVER YOU ASK
I have been trying for two weeks
I can't fucking make fucking steam games work on Fedora 43 Jesus fucking Christ
I will fucking defile myself in livestream if you just make it fucking work
>fedora 43 GNOME
>Intel 12700k
>3080 rtx
>rpm steam
Depending on fucking arounds, games either start with iGPU or start with completely black window.
I managed to launch steam from terminal with some gpt generated parametrrs and it worked, but then I close steam, open again from GNOME menu and black screen
Jesus fuck I am gong insane
I will pay whatever you want
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>>107082655
Irrelevant, IPv6 connection tracking on a router is a waste of time. Literally duplicated work.
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>>107082668
Your router is a waste of time if it can't handle being a border router properly and enforce security rules for your LAN then just plug the cable directly into your desktop at that point.
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>>107082677
You should be able to do that and not lose security, yes. Which is why you firewall the host properly so the router is irrelevant.
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>>107082692
You can't firewall every host properly. Have fun when some guest comes over or someone inevitably connects some botnet iOT device to it and yes, even if you do firewall properly there's ways to bust through your firewall like STUN/TURN but at least try and make an effort with the bare minimum you can possibly do to secure your hosts.
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>>107082703
>You can't firewall every host properly.
Of course you can. Only the hosts you control matter.

>some guest comes over or someone inevitably connects some botnet iOT device
The router's firewall is typically not applied to local hosts, so it would do nothing in that case either way. Securing each host with its own firewall is paramount.

>ways to bust through your firewall like STUN/TURN
Neither of those even apply with IPv6, unless you have a retarded paranoid sysadmin in control of the router (hint).

>at least try and make an effort with the bare minimum you can possibly do to secure your hosts
My hosts are plenty secure. Other people's are not my problem. Or yours, you just think they are.
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>>107082635
>The entire point of IPv6 was restoring the end to end connectivity that IPv4 NAT destroyed.
The point wasn't that routers were supposed to just yolo each and every forward. They still know what's local, and don't have to forward new connections there.
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>>107082284
>which is false
blatantly untrue, it is the premier resource eating DE in Linux asides from GNOME. Making it by virtue of relativity, a resource hog.
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>>107082899
>They still know what's local,
Irrelevant. If it has an IPv6 publicly routable address, it's not supposed to treated as local. Use ULAs or even link-local addresses for local communication. Stop treating IPv6 like IPv4, they are similar but different protocols, and v6 is far superior.
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>>107082938
>If it has an IPv6 publicly routable address, it's not supposed to treated as local.
Says who? You? The great anon, master of IPv6? Get real.
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>>107083029
Yes anon, I'm sure they're called *global* unicast addresses for absolutely no reason.
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>>107083094
It's the prefix/route that's global. You don't have to
ALLOW ::/0
. The router is capable of tracking established/outgoing connections and blocking incoming connections (CONNTRACK can do this relatively easily and no, this is not treating it the same as IPv4, they're still global end-to-end addresses just that unwanted incoming connections are being policed at the firewall as they should be unless you add an explicit ALLOW rule for the traffic)
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>>107082663
disable igpu in bois?
set those same launch params on your gnome application shortcut?
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>>107083145
>are being policed at the firewall as they should be
No, the host is responsible for that, as it always should have been. Routers are not supposed to mess with traffic not meant for them, they can, but they shouldn't, that's how you break L4 protocols in subtle ways.
With IPv4 traffic is sent specifically to the router host because it has the only global address and needs to do NAT for the hosts behind it. With IPv6 traffic is *NOT* sent specifically to the router host, the router just happens to be in the way as its responsible for the delegated prefix. It is not the router's job to do firewalling in IPv6.
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>>107083248
>It is not the router's job to do firewalling in IPv6.
yes, it is, because I told it to do so.
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>>107083275
And as I've asserted throughout this pointless conversation, the problem is indeed (You).
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>>107083248
Blocking incoming traffic is not "Messing with it". The router is still forwarding traffic ("messing with it") regardless. It's fine for the router to put its foot down and block unestablished incoming connections. This breaks absolutely nothing because you shouldn't be hosting services in the first place and if you are then you can add an explicit ALLOW rule for it in the firewall.
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>>107083285
There is no problem, you just think there is one.
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>>107083309
Why do you think it's a good idea to ignore all of the botnet devices that may be connected to somebody's network as "Not my problem"? Any ISP that ships a firewall configuration with "Default ALLOW" should be publicly shamed.
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>>107083335
I'm not the anon who doesn't want a firewall on the router
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>>107083362
Ah, fair enough. I hate people that think like that though, if anyone doesn't know why a "Default ALLOW" policy for a firewall is a bad idea you need only look at people talking about the AUR getting DDOSd in this very thread.

It's compromised botnet devices that help to fuel that sort of thing. It's a terrible idea to just brush that off as "not my problem".
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>>107083293
That allow rule will either apply to all local hosts, or to all local hosts on one port depending on bridge configuration.

>>107083309
Enjoy your false sense of security then.

>>107083362
Are you actually stupid? IPv4 needs the firewall at the router, IPv6 does not. And if you have every host properly firewalled then you don't need overly complicated firewalling at the router to begin with. That's my entire point.
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>>107081709
for a while was using picom 12.5 from distro repos, but it breaks most of the shaders so i've been compiling from source straight off the next branch of the picom repo for a while now.
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>>107082350
Yes, even if don't you have services enabled. Use firewalld for RHEL based system or ufw for debian based systems



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