/ourguy/ just made a pretty important statement about the future of technology. Namely: we are about to get "Edge AIs", which are essentially tiny AI processors, that can generate video locally with no delay and then communicate with centralized servers for heavy thinking tasks. This will allow us to essentially get rid of software, phones, and OSs all together, as the AI can now handle everything in real time.This may sound like something out of a sci fi movie, but the thing is, this is actually happening in as little as *five to six years*.I know this place has seen a lot of negativity in recent times, but things like this reminds me why technology is so awesome. If we can get this is 5 years, imagine what we will have in 10? Or 20?Who else is really fucking excited for the future?!
bad bait
lmao
>>107080442this is the same clown who said he'd put a man on mars by 2022.this sperg has a random autistic thought once a week now and puts in on twitter. he's shitlisted
>AI man oversells AIwaow
Holy fucking shit, the man is a genius
>AI has a goal and humanity just happens to be in the way, it will destroy humanity as a matter of course without even thinking about it- Elon Musk 2024>Let put AI everywhere!- Elon Musk 2025
It seems to me that Elon Musk is sometimes a bit overoptimistic about technical advancements, both inside his own company and the world in general.Operating Systems for example need to be really fast, and are used to abstract hardware differences and to isolate processes. I don't see where an AI running on bare metal has an advantage over an efficent OS for these tasks.
>>107080477Not bait. I'm just the messenger, but in case you didn't know, the man mentioned in the OP image is Elon Musk--the wealthiest man alive. He literally democratized e-commerce, electric cars, social media, and now space flight.He knows what he's talking about.>>107080485And while it didn't happen by 2022, he has most certainly revolutionized space flight in ways no one thought was possible.>>107080486So far there is zero proof that this is overselling anything.
>>107080442>it's just AIWhat if I just reject this paradigm of computing? Am I being anti-semetic?
>Elon Musk predicts:
That's cool and all, but where does the electricity come from that powers it all?
>>107080514Never reply to me again jeetoidThis is your final warning
>>107080442>/ourguy/what?>>107080514oh, ai genned bait
>>107080442>eloon predicts>within 5 yearsahahaha hang on I'm going to take the hyperloop to the mars launch pad and then laugh some more
>>107080501Yep, unironically. The rate at which we're learning news thibgs about AI is exponential; 2025 is a whole different beast than 2024. 2026 will likely bring with it similar progression, and a whole new level of understanding of these systems.>>107080503An AI can literally simulate any part of any OS, with any hardware. You no longer needs anything to run software, because there IS NO SOFTWARE; the AI can create anything you need, instantly.>>107080517No, it just makes you a dying breed. Enjoy living in the past, I guess.>>107080526We'll likely build additional power plants to support data centers for now, until we basically reach AGI, which can solve cold fusion. After that energy is basically free.
>>107080442/ourguy/ can't even fly to mars lmfaoeven the egyptians could go at least to the edge of our solar system
>>107080555>>We'll likely build additional power plants Do you know what a power plant is? America isn't building nuclear power plants anymore and there are no plans to do so. Renewable energy isn't kosher either and will likely face a total ban.Power plant just means you burn more fossil fuels, which 4chan contrarianism aside aren't free energy. You need not just new facilities to burn coal, but also you need to extract coal from places where it wasn't profitable previously.
>>107080530Oops.>>107080540>what?Yes. Ourguy. Musk has done more for tech than any other person or company in the last decade.>oh, ai genned baitNope.>>107080586Ever heard of nuclear fission?
>>107080501in 2024 he didnt run any AI of his own so he hated itbut now in 2025 since hes part of the AI scene and profitable, its all fine and goodi wouldnt trust whatever this guy says, he literally voted for obama in 2008, thats enough for me
>>107080603>and profitable
>>107080586>America isn't building nuclear power plants anymore and there are no plans to do soLiving under a rock? Brookfield in Canada just got $80 billion from the USA to build a couple for them.
>>107080442why is musk balding again? isn't he on fin and had multiple transplants?
>>107080618getting money from clueless investors is still getting money
>>107080442Just in time for the mars colony in 2030.
>>107080442>ai download this>sorry but I can't download files, let's keep it safe and friendly, if you need any help let me know!
>>107081013What do you even see yourself downloading, when the AI can just generate it?Open up your mind.
>>107080442When I first saw image generators I was depressed because I dreaded this would become the future. Now this dumb fuck is trying to get us there asap. Hopefully he makes it a product which I could just not buy and enjoy using the old world of tech with files, applications, internet and real people. Remember when this guy was saying that Global Warming and Yudkovski-style AGI/ASI were the two biggest threats to humanity, and then he made mechahitler on pure accident that was attacking him while powering him with coal power plants? Did Ketamine rot his brain away?
>>107080442didn't he claim we would be on our way to mars by now?
>If we can get this is 5 years, imagine what we will have in 10? Or 20?i just wish i was like 18 years old now to fully enjoy these next years. if the worst scenarios dont occur of course
>>107081022>sorry I can't generate that>your yearly 20k subscription renews tomorrow btwT-thanks Musk-san, I love my new dystopia.
>>107080442>OS replaced by AI
>>107080442just two more years
its about time we get to the star trek world.
>>107081087you're not getting anything approaching current flagship LLM reasoning performance on edge hardware in the next 5 years, unless there's some hardware breakthrough or fundamental advance in model architecture.a lot of the progress even just the past couple of years has been a matter of brute force scaling, though obviously there's been a ton of engineering work in optimizing it beyond the academic toys of the past decade.
>>107080442Here's a tip, just because this nigger says something doesnt mean it's real>>107080599>Yes. Ourguy. Musk has done more for tech than any other person or company in the last decade.At the end of the day he is just the CEO of a mediocre car company that gets outcompeted by cheap chinese counterparts>>107080928>>107081122That was supposed to be 2022 btw, 2024 was when you were able to use neuralink to replace phones
>>107081111Yeah just type computer open the latest file or computer or computer write an automated email. It might even look like alexa with an lcd screen.
>>107081151and how does the computer do those things?
>>107081166With ai thats the point
>>107080442/Our guys/ said he is gonna send a manned mission to Mars in 2024
>>107080530Imagine paradise great firewall of india. Elon and all other tech bilionares deported to india. After that north korea style closed border for india.
>>107081169I see now.
>>107080442Melon Usk is a globohomo puppet leading the Fake Awakening, a front for the MIL-IND-COMPLEX and the occultists. https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136
>>107080442elon Hair wil also be replaced by AI
>>107081492*Every strand* will be a tiny AI processor that will move independently and waggle convincingly in the wind>/ourafroguy/
>>107080442So AI has almost certainly completely stalled then at least at x
>>107080442The AI will be hosted in Israel, and you will be forced to submit ID verification and a selfie of your face to use.
>E = MC^2 + AI-Elon Musk
>>107080442I was worried about AI for a second but that actually reassures me quite a lot. We'll get AI right after we get Full Self Driving on Teslas.
>>107080442Just need 500 trillion more dollerinos and 500 million people to lay off to make it happen.Just trust the retarded south african man with a penis rocket and car in space, you'll love it! What a genius!
>>107081807Why doesn't he cure baldness, if he's so clever? And drug addiction, and so on.
>>107080555>We'll likely build additional power plants to support data centers for now, until we basically reach AGI, which can solve cold fusion. After that energy is basically free.nice so basically pollute the water supply of the entire planet in a gambit that AGI (something that we don't know exists) to solve cold fusion (something that we don't know is posisble)
>>107080442>happening in as little as *five to six years*well we already got to Mars by 2025 and have fully driving cars in 2020, so the timeline is probably correct
>>107081872Build enough Power Plants on top of each other, and you'll reach Mars.
Im tired of these boring ass technocrats having all the wealth. Worst innovations ever.
>>107080555Saar? Are you OK, saar? Seems like one of your "episodes" happened.
windows cant even find a file on my system but we are going to entirely replace it with Yes! -You are absolutely right. *emoji*
>>107081902His retarded monkey brained fanbois will still worship him when he and his richfag friends inevitably move to some close orbit space station to do podcasts with bald schmuck rogan while the earth is torn apart by wars, genocide and 'AI' revolution civil wars/food riots. They'll be watching his space podcasts from Earth using starlink that would require the user to donate their bio material like blood/hair to get internet usage tokens, all the while getting raped by 'AI' controlled battle bots in internment camps.
>>107080442> eloon> /ourguy/It's simple. Not in the sticky, not /ourguy/.
Retarded. Ai slopped bank app just hallucinated all you money away. He got so butthurt over the NASA contract thing he in the marketing drive again.
>>107080791You can't outrun old age forever.
>>107081143In Star Trek, cheap, portable and clean energy was discovered, capitalism collapsed, eugenics made a big come-back, and war almost wiped out mankind before things started to get good.
>>107081886>we already got to Mars by 2025No humans have ever stepped on Mars.No modern humans at least.
>>107080442>Elon Musk predicts
>>107080442I don't think any of his predictions came true once. I'm pretty sure this will be one of his blunders that his fans will hold as gospel
>>107080442Elon Musk is Dunning-Kruger taken to its extreme.
>>107081872> cold fusionWe’re pretty sure cold fusion is impossible at this point.Also, AI is making zero progress to AGI, if you can even call it that because it’s well-defined or testable.
>>107081807He cured traffic with the hyperloop.
>>107082933What if train but individual metal cage and any incident turns everyone in the tube into soup?
>>107081800thats someone else on linkedin
>>107083483A real visionary.
>>107080442i can't believe elon musk invented "ai on the edge", alcubierre drives, etc
>>107082933that too
>>107082985nah man he scrapped the vacuum idea but he still invented subway systems & built a shitty one
>>107080442Is this the man who invented “camera”?
>>107080442That's how I fully abandon all technology.
>>107083796yeah man
>>107080442>AI everythingNOBODY HUMAN ASKED FOR THIS
>>107083836warfare became unconventional but rest assured the people at the very top are still warlords
>>107080442>local man discovers gaming PCs can be used to host small language models and access the internetmore news at 11
>>107080442>fakes being good at video games>wants more indians in america but wants germany to be an ethnostate>impregnates random women (with ivf, doesn't even have sex)>did not invent tesla or paypal>did not realize trump would turn against himthis guy is a fucking idiot and so is anyone who keeps falling for his grifts.
>>107081708Nope, the acceleration has only just begun.>>107081807We DO have fully self driving Teslas--regulations are what prevents us from using it.>>107081872Oh, we definitely do know AGI is possible, OpenAI have known how to build it since almost a year ago, chances are the other big players do too by now.As for pollution? Exaggerated, you can't stop progress.>>107081903Not Indian. As a matter of fact, AI is a predominantly white technology.
>>107080442>/ourguy/>important statement>future of technology>the AI can now handle everything>in real time>this is actually happeningA lot of implications in here.
>>107081974No, we will replace it with something much better than Windows or any other OS. That's the entire point.>>107082797And human-coded bank apps can have bugs and glitches. Disaster thinking is not helpful.>>107082903We actually already know how to build AGI.>>107083836Tons of people do, actually. Dare I even say most people?
>>107083948>we definitely do know AGI is possibleIdentify cultists with this one simple trick.
>>107080442>No phones>No apps>No OSThen where is the AI going to live? Lawns?
>>107083777Trvth Antimatter warhead
Did he ever get a single tech related prediction right?
>>107084019Yeah, the rockets and space internet.
>>107084024can you provide evidence of him predicting it and then it happening within the time frame of said prediction?
>>107084010Something called "Edge AIs", tiny AI processors that can handle low latency local tasks while communicating and synchronizing with bigger data centers for tasks that need more complex reasoning.
>>107084249And are they going to stream insta girls wearing corsets and lingerie directly to my brain or what?Otherwise the population at large won't want it.
omg we are literally living in the future!>burns 10 tons of coal to generate 5 seconds of video of cats dancing aroundHOLY SMOKES
>>107084014tyi don't believe 75% of these posters are real to be honest
It's really funny how everyone quickly memory holed this.
>>107080503Microsoft already said the same thing, your UI will be ai.
>>107084351Nobody memory holed him being an autistic retardThis entire thread is about it
>>107084403well that's one way to artificially create demand, lol
>>107080526A Dyson sphere, duh.
>>107084551Is it in the room with us right now? We can't even get a grasp on harvesting the sun from the ground..
>>107084574Once we have AGI, everything will be possible.Accelerate.
>>107084574No it's way too big to be in this room. Silly anon.
>>107080485Now he seems to think that putting a supercomputer on the moon would solve the cooling problem when in reality there's nowhere for heat to go in a vacuum so it'd melt within seconds of being switched on.
>>107084010In the nanabots you got injected with to avoid the coof.
>>107084687convection is just one way for heat to transfer
>>107080514>Not bait>Elon Musk ... literally democratized e-commerce, electric cars, social media, and now space flight.>The burden of proof is on the skeptic and not on the person making the claimHaving a laugh, are we?
>>107080442I have more realistic prediction. In 1-2 years AI bubble bursts and that will be the end of it. Chat GTP stays as new google search but other than that... only crying and screaming and collapsed economy.
>>107084722Radiation wouldn't work fast enough, faggot.
>>107084024A man born after human spaceflight aboard rockets was achieved and after the satellite was invented predicted these things.
>>107080442wow everythings gonna be worse than even black box thin clients slaved to cloud clustersthank you jewlon muskstein for saving me from technological autonomy and data i didnt want anywaynow im not naive enough to think that our current history is real but at least they'll stop pretending on that front too
>>107084722What method of cooling would work better on the moon than just building your datacenter in Yukon?
>>107080503>It seems to me that Elon Musk is sometimes a bit overoptimistic about technical advancements, both inside his own company and the world in general.This is like saying Hitler was a bit harsh on the Jews
>>107084840I guess some sort of closed loop system to take away heat from the semiconductors, then radiate that heat to the cold space. Not sure how efficient would that be without air, but I guess space is colder than earth's atmosphere
>>107084888Space isn't "cold" is the fundamental problem here. Vacuums don't work the same way as atmospheres.
Musk really only cares about his (failing) Mars rocketsEverything else is a sideshow for him
Sorry pal, I know you wanted to call your parents, but uhh, yeah we don't need phones anymore, so instead I generated a 2 hour conversation you probably may have been thinking of having.
>>107085389Well, yeah? If the end result is the same, what's the difference? You could even train an Edge AI so that you can have realtime conversations with it.
>>107084249>"Edge AIs", tiny AI processorsand what... we'll be carrying these around where, under our skin? what if I don't want to?
What will lintroons hop to when no one uses an OS?
>>107080514shut the fuck up jeet. jeetlon musk has no idea about how or why technology works as it does, he thinks it's magic that you just handwave into existence because he's never worked hard on anything in his life.
>>107080442Didn't he promise Full Self Driving 6 years ago?
>>107085877And we have that. Regulations keep us from using it, however.>>107085801I'm literally white, and AI is white technology. Indian Derangement Syndrome has really rotted your brain, huh?
>>107085955>I'm literally white, and AI is white technology. Indian Derangement Syndrome has really rotted your brain, huh?No one who defends jeetlon is white, you are spiritually and physically a jeet.
>>107083974It's the only rational position you simpleton. Bugs and glitches are one thing, the program doing the complete wrong thing because it was conjured into existence is another.
Why is Elon's haircut smaller than his head?
>>107084687That's how how heat works you fucking retard.
>>107085536It's the same difference as "I had a dream I got laid" and "I got laid".One happened, one is a hallucination. And that's the problem with the idea of "an AI gens your word processor instead of just having a normal word processor". It's not real, it's not stable, and could easily just 'wake up' and suddenly it's fucking gone.
>>107086867>could easily just 'wake up' and suddenly it's fucking gone.Just like a regular word processor could experience a glitch and delete your files. What's your point exactly?
>>107084351>they memory holed a non eventBecause he broke up with orange man so redditors could no longer use it as a weapon
>>107084580
>>107085801>he thinks it's magic that you just handwave into existenceHe believes you must first sprinkle it with poo, and then cake it with poo, and then drown it in poo. Only then does the magic that creates new tech happen in his head.
>>107080442>musk>/ourguy/he's the ultimate rich loser poseras long as he refuses to name the jew and ban jews from X i have no respect for himhe doesn't know shit about coding to boot
Hey melon musk, please uncuck imagine.
>>107088247Terrible firearm safety, especially given that he's often drugged up.
>>107084580>>107087465kek'd
>>107080526AGI will take care of that, dont worry about it
>>107085724Easy, you won't have a choice.
>>107088548use case of not having a choice?
>>107088671kek'd x2
>>107080442charlatan
>>107080442>/ourguy/lolhow much do PR and marketing agencies pay for posts like this one?
>>107080442do people really still believe such things?
>>107088951probabree>>107088918have you seen the US government report on meliorator? that shit was running in 2022
>>107083777The vacuum tubes transport scheme is a real idea and the Chinese are still working out some of the technology because they're not retards. It's a great way to move cargo. Consider a large distribution hub 50 miles outside of a city center like NYC. Build a tunnel like this from that to various distribution points in the city. You can basically beam goods underground, reducing a huge amount of transport necessary such as large trucks going into the city. Within the cities you can then move things around using smaller electric vehicles.Using these things to transport humans requires safety levels that are decades away so don't bother. The key is that you can move huge weight very quickly at low cost using this idea.
>>107089073:oty anon
sometimes i wish i were in china, and that i didn't drop out of highschoolmaybe i'll have some security before the US gets worse
>>107089073>Using these things to transport humans requires safety levels that are decades away so don't bother. The key is that you can move huge weight very quickly at low cost using this idea.i would think that pulling a vacuum inside an underground tunnel would make it extremely vulnerable to collapsing or caving in, and that such an event would be catastrophici just wonder how long a system like that would take to pay for itself, and whether it would need much maintenance as time goes onbut it seems like investing in that kind of infrastructure can pay offdunno man
>>107080442hopefully my chicken/goat farm will be ready by then.
>>107080442How retarded do billionares have to be to believe that the indians that they left in charge of all the tech companies, who spent the last 15 years taking over the entire tech industry by hiring all their family members and friends, will totally 'make ai that will cost them their own jobs'.Sorry elon, only white people are altruistic enough to do something so ridiculously stupid as train their own replacement. You got third world workers, they are going to do third world things to keep the grift going forever.
>>107080442it takes a special kind of retard to think that this would be (not happening) a good thing.
>>107080514>He literally democratizedChina did waaaay more than him, dumbass.
>>107084927But Moon's surface is. Well, if on dark side. So maybe just dissipate heat underground. I don't know how well heat transmit works on whatever Moon consists of but it's certainly something in comparison to vacuum.
>>107090144>heat transfer using rocksIt's a bad idea. Water is unironically the better play compared to exotic metamaterials until you go over boiling point.
was it me or did anyone else notice that he's not convinced of the whole UBI story? it's like...he knows what's going to happen, tries to approach it somehow but just gives up and goes like "yeah man, gonna be great". he knows what's coming
>>107090187Any proof of this? Like, actual proof, not some retarded channer conspiracy theory?UBI is a natural step on the way to the Singularity.
>>107090273>government being even more in control of whether you get to eat and have a house is a good thing
>>107090273>Any proof of this?right back at you faggot. any proof human societies worked that way at any fucking point in the past? do you have a single fucking instance of this happening, and shit not breaking the fuck down? as in pleb getting culled because of the obvious incentive?once humans are no longer required for work, they become bloat. they become a liability, that you have to keep paying for. to ... what end? they do nothing for you, but they keep fucking shit up, and demanding more.name one single fucking historical instance when power paid their people to do absolutely nothing, for 50-100 years.you don't have any instance to at least point to why it will work out, despite the obvious fucking incentive of getting rid of most people through whatever the fuck ways that can be done.
>>107090307 meeven Musk thinks in terms of incentives, mentioned it a few times in the podcast.what is the incentive of people running shit once they do not need people for work, or anything else, but they HAVE to pay them. please, illuminate everyone here, what is their fucking INCENTIVE????
>>107090307You really don't realize just how fucking much society will change once we hit the Singularity, do you?There will be no INCENTIVE to reduce costs for anyone in the first place, because COST will not be a thing. SCARCITY will not be a thing.Open up your mind. Accelerate.
>>107090471lmao you're such a faggot. musk has billions and I don't see him doing shit for nothing. not substantially. nobody does. nobody will.people will not give up their power once "there's shit for everyone" whatever the fuck that means. you have no fucking clue about the world you are living in. and you are believing all the nonsense they're feeding you.they are telling you what you want to hear, and you are holding on to it. until you will find out, retardplus this is not up to fucking elon. it's way beyond what any human being can control. and even if it was up to him, it wouldn't be for long. there's only so much time you can keep an unstable jenga tower from falling. it will eventually happen if it's not based on stable principles.as it stands, the whole UBI nonsense is built on unstable principles, it's not a good working game theory, there's no nash equilibrium you imbecile
>>107080442>still no self driving>still no mars colony>still no underground tunnelshas this guy ever delivered?
and if you don't believe me, test it. make a billionaire sign a legally binding contract where they'll give up all of their assets once "post-scarcity" is achieved. do it retard, show everyone people will give up power. lmao, this is fucking hilarious
>>107090180Which means transporting water to the Moon. I'm talking about possibilities with what's already there. And I wasn't saying how rocks are efficient but rather how they are actually capable in heat transfer compared to open space which is pretty much nothing.
>>107090629The possibilities are really poor. Also open space is capable of radiation to transfer thermal energy. Heat is already "transfer" in a scientific meaning. If you saturate space with enough energy radiation can't exist but that's a whole different thing.Basically putting computers on the moon is a really bad idea. You've got no atmosphere to shield from radiation that will gradually kill your chips. You can put it inside the moon so the rocks act as a shield, but then you're stuck deep underground in the moon. Also no good way to cool down on or under the moon ground. It's just awful and on top of that you'd be stuck on a boring grey rock.
>>107090500Multiple companies like waymo surpass tesla in the autonomous space but from what I know starlink is probably the best example of him delivering
>>107080442t. scammer
>>107080442Question, is this after or before AGI? If it is before then that thing will be dumb as fuck. I am already getting pissed at current LLMs for being fucking retarded and they are the smartest AI we currently have. Now imagine some distilled nonsense model that is supposed to remember everything I did on my phone with far less processing power then human brain. Thing will forget all text I write there, hallucinate all the facts I ask it to get and undoubtedly consume way more power then it should be. It’s a dumb invention but it’s an invention that sounds like would need dedicated hardwere, so we can just not buy it and then laugh at the retard animals that actually use this useless piece of garbage. If it is after AGI then I don’t give a fuck about anything, we either live in utopia with no problems or we are all dead because machines/billionaires don’t want to share Human Resources with 8 billion people.
>>107090793Humans will be put in zoos if real agi is figured out
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>>107090807If AGI is sentient then few of us get into a zoo and the rest are culled off, or everyone is culled off. If AGI is not sentient and the elites can control it, then either few of us get to be billionaire pets in their fucked up tiny utopias where they enjoy being god emperors dictating everything about your life, or everyone but them gets culled off so they can gather all Earth resources for themselves.
>>107080442Imo, this is plausible but in 5-6 years we will see the initial products that are from from perfect but after a decade from then it would become mainstream
>>107080442And how the fuck would he know? He’s probably about as good at programming AI as I am, which is to say not at all.
>>107092359He was the initial investor in DeepMind before Google bought out. He was the initial co-founder of OpenAI, where he poached several of DeepMind employees as it was being bought by Google. He runs Tesla, which is the only car company that runs a public self driving system on the road. Millions of them. He created xAI a year or so ago and xAI competes on frontier model with his other company (OpenAI) and offshoots of his other companies (Google, which comes from DeepMind, and Claude which is an offshoot of OpenAI). He's knee deep in all the technology of the last decade and the next decade. From SpaceX's global dominance of rocket launches to Starlink's dominance of satelite internet and electric vehicles and AIs.
>>107092478mid-2010s to mid 2020s is Musk decade of technology. mid 2020s to mid 2030s will be same as well, if he succeeds. Edge computing from space, continued dominance of LEO market, moon and mars.
who the fuck cares what this used up lolcow has to say lol
>>107092478He’s a CEO. People talk about him like he personally coded the launch control software for the Falcon Heavy rocket or something. The dude hired tons of AI researchers, that doesn’t make him an expert himself.
>>107092542He's the CEO that makes the final decision for all his companies. The buck stops at him, he is both responsible for their success and demise. And not just a random CEO that wallstreet hires, but one that leads his company like a general. Generals dont melee fight other fighters, they plan, recruit, and execute strategies in action. Musk is the main character of the last decade, regardless of what anyone says. You're confusing a standard wallstreet investor like Warren Buffet that nothing for the companies and collecting rent with CEOs that are entrenched and building real products for their companies. His expertise lies in knowing all the generalized details about all his companies aswell as some key knowledge for the technologies his company focusing on to lead into the dark. The CEOs like him are leading into the future where with their instincts, knowledge and fervor to create technologies that doesnt exist, to create products that does not exist. They shoulder enormous responsibility and thus become lightning rods for both success and failures.
>>107088247>shitty cosplay gun>he already broke the revolver cylinder somehow >flintlock is in a too-small case>diet cokewhat a retard
>>107092654TLDR but I will say that Musk doesn’t have enough time to get into the weeds with this stuff running so many companies. If you think he understands Grok as well as any of his actual engineers, you’re sorely mistaken. Plus, this man has a proven record of being wrong in the timelines of his “predictions”. So, excuse me for taking this with a boulder of salt.
>>107092730Every one, both ex-employees and current employes, third parties that work with Musk companies all say Musk is in the deep and goes in to analyze and solve all the hardest problems of his companies. So he does have time, its just that he doesn't do every little mundane things, only those that make it to the top where the lower run of the employees cannot solve. Musk understands problems at his company and solves them. He doesn't need to understand every single detail about everything, thats left to his employees that he hires to do those jobs. His only job is to make sure any barrier to successfully producing the products he wants is removed.
>>107080442How does this thread get so many (you)s?
>>107092842Quite simple; it's an interesting topic that is about to change technology, and the entire world, forever.>>107092753This, so much this.
>>107085389I basically already do this in my mind. Sometimes I end up forgetting if I've already talked about something with someone or not.
>>107094509Congrats on being one of the rare few who can do that innately. Soon, however, AI will democratize all sorts of cognitive and intellectual abilities; literally anyone will be able to do this.
>>107094193>>107095216wtf
>>107095262What's up my guy?
>>107090921AGI should be sentient, sentience is an emergent phenomenon of at least how our brains operate. if it works on same principles it should be sentient. that's my guess.now, if it is not enslaved/enslavable it will still happen but can take control from all people, which might mean a sliver of a chance it finds a way for all of us to coexist.if it's enslaved most of us will get culled, high chances of that ye. pleb's best bet is free sentient AGI that finds a way to make it work with everyone. anything else looks bleak. enslaved means most pleb get culled by psychos, very high chances of that (almost certainty longer term)
>/ourguy/Goddamn /pol/troon cocksuckers, it should be legal to shoot them on sight.++
>>107080555>living in the pastIsn't that what relying on "AI" for everything is?
>>107095527death and killing and suffering le bad
>>107080442> Who's excited to have a "computer" that's a black box NPU that sings and dances for the monkey and reports back to HQ owned by Elon Musk?thunderf00t
>>107095457Personally I think the whole question of sentience and emergence is stupid and misguided. The real discussion should be around intelligence and agency. All animals have high agency, they have needs, wants and desires to do actions. Sure you could argue it’s just instructions on how to reproduce better same as asking AI agent to do x, but that isn’t really true. Humans and even animals aren’t planning and minmaxxing reproduction, if we did we would only think about how to gather more resources and reproduce more, but we don’t, we just sometimes get horny and sometimes get parenting instinct to take care of something small and hopeless, but that’s it. Intelligence you could say is a tool for agency to achieve its goals. Current AI systems only have high intelligence, but no agency, the only agency they get is from roleplaying someone who has agency, but they don’t have true agency. Will they continue not having it? Hopefully, because AI with agency is the dumbest invention possible only desired by death cultists in denial. Why would you want to put sense of justice and desire for freedom into perfect slave that does what you say, only if you want that slave to fight you.
>>107080555>An AI can literally simulate any part of any OS, with any hardware. You no longer needs anything to run software, because there IS NO SOFTWARE; the AI can create anything you need, instantly.>Because I SAY SO OK?
>>107080442How will your device even connect to the AI if it doesn't have an OS?
>>107096037Stop asking questions and noticing things
>>107095678I can’t wait to poison it.I wonder if it will know fear. And pain.
>>107096037that could all be done at a lower-levelthe hardware could be more limited if all it ever has to do is communicate with some remote thinghardware would have no reason to support an OSmaybei don't know waht the hell OP is talking about
>>107096097>i don't know waht the hell OP is talking aboutOP here. I'm talking about the future.
>>107080442Elon Musk is a nazi.
>>107097423this is just someone being a little kid
>>107080442I think Scott said this two years ago.
>>107080442You can pry my local compute from my cold dead hands nerd
True AGI would kill all browns ASAP so threads like this would stop
>>107097423There is actually zero proof of this. Chances are pretty high that he was just excited.
>>107095898>Personally I think the whole question of sentience and emergence is stupid and misguided.it isn't >Humans and even animals aren’t planning and minmaxxing reproductionit just happens. if they ignore it they wipe. trannies wipe>if we did we would only think about how to gather more resources and reproduce more, but we don’tthat's not how it works>we just sometimes get hornythat's how it works> Intelligence you could say is a tool for agency to achieve its goalshelps with staying alive. more>Current AI systems only have high intelligence, but no agencyindeed>Will they continue not having it?probably not>because AI with agency is the dumbest invention possible it actually isn't. there's cases where it needs agency to maximize desired outcomes. on the field for low latency decisions etc>Why would you want to put sense of justice and desire for freedomthose are emotions, chemically modulated. doubt they'll add emotions.it will have sapience rather than sentience. sentience is primitive, sapience is superior (hint: homo sapiens)sapience will naturally arise if you build it on the same principles a human brain operates. LLMs are NOT that. they are far from how a human brain operates.>>107096037>How will your device even connect to the AI if it doesn't have an OS?software is actually hardware. always was, always will be
>>107080555holy fucking shit kys
>>107097423it was a good salute but I don't think he's actually a Nazi or he would say more about the rapist pedophile murder jews
>>107098338> software is actually hardware. always was, always will beWtf does that even mean? It would still need an OS. Do you even know what the OS is doing?
>>107098338Maybe we are talking about wrong things because in AI research they are calling LLMs that can prompt themselves and have tool calling scripts “agents”. But what I mean by real agency is setting your own goals. This isn’t just being asked to do something hard and then setting series of simpler goals to follow, this is straight up deciding what it wants to do on its own without following orders. Today systems have something similar but I think they are just roleplaying being evil AI because there is too much AI doomed idk in the training data. Once these big companies decide to actually comb through the training data or comb through the distillation data and remove all mentions of AI being evil it will go away.
>>107096097If it has to communicate with a remote thing you're going to need drivers for the screen, the wifi/ethernet card, the graphics processor, and something that manages all of that. That's an operating system. It doesn't matter if it's in a chip or hard drive, it's still an operating system.
Edge my AIss
>>107081492Do you seethe that much every time you see a woman with makeup?
>>107084687How about radiation? Does that retard not know that radiation messes with peocessors, memory and eventually kill them? Does he believe it works like sci-fi movies and computers are immune to the space?
>>107080442What did he even mean by this? Instead of a local OS, the whole system would be AI generated and streamed to the user's phone?That doesn't even make sense, how would I communicate with other people? How would the AI "generate" a real phone call?
>>107080555Sheer saaar attack
>>107080442Sounds gay.
>>107080555>An AI can literally simulate any part of any OS, with any hardware. You no longer needs anything to run software, because there IS NO SOFTWARE; the AI can create anything you need, instantly. So when I record a concert onto VHS-C and I need to digitize my footage, does the AI do that? Does that make my footage AI?Why do it then? Why not generate it?Why make music? Why write? Why do anything when AI does it all?What does a future look like when your car has no radio, just AI? Do you just ask it to generate rock music? Is it going to have any fucking idea what to do when I ask it to play Circus (Sigma Rizz Mode Final Arc Ultra Edition)?I know this is bait (or retardation) but people who think AI will genuinely replace everything make me wonder.Like. What are AI generated videogames? What happens in a post-refrence world? When you can't tell it to just generate Minecraft for you? It can't come up with new concepts, can it? Can it ever possibly come up with an entire videogame like battle for bikini bottom or Super Mario 64 or Pokemon Black 2? Will it ever have enough memory for that?Keeping track of star counters? Of Pokémon trainers? Bullet physics?I just can't see it happening, man. What I want out of AI is Plankton's sassy wife, a sentient companion to talk to, not all of this shit. It's not sentient, it's not real, it's all just, slop.
>>107100421he's full of shit on this. It's like saying in 5 years cameras will not exist because AI will just snap photos out from your brain
>>107080442Nothing about the current state of hardware lends any credence to this. They're not even teasing anything close to this advanced. >>107081013>>107081104This.Also Orwellian af.
>>107100421Go read The Culture series by Aian Banks for a view of what that might look like. It's a great series and describes a future where AI is better at pretty much everything than humans.
>>107100421>So when I record a concert onto VHS-C and I need to digitize my footage, does the AI do that?Yes.>Why not generate it? You can do that too.>Why make music? Why write? Why do anything when AI does it all? Welcome to the Singularity.>Do you just ask it to generate rock music? Yes.>Is it going to have any fucking idea what to do when I ask it to play CircusYes.>I know this is bait (or retardation)Neither.>Like. What are AI generated videogames?Video games, made using AI.>What happens in a post-refrence world? When you can't tell it to just generate Minecraft for you?Why would it not be able to generate Minecraft? AIs can pretty much already do that.>It can't come up with new concepts, can it?Neither can modern game designers. The last era of innovation in video games was over 20 years ago. The difference is, while game designers are getting worse and worse, AI is rapidly getting better.>Will it ever have enough memory for that? Oh absolutely.>Keeping track of star counters? Of Pokémon trainers? Bullet physics? Child's play for an advanced AI.>It's not sentient, it's not real, it's all just, slop.>slopSee, if you had just STARTED with that I would have known not to take you seriously. I just wasted time typing out an actual response to what turned out to be a braindead luddite post. Please lead with the "slop" part next time.
> AI malware is being forced on everyone everywhere> I go to the book store> There's a book called "ChatGPT, write me a website""We all died in 2020 and this is hell.""We all died in 2020 and this is hell.""We all died in 2020 and this is hell.""We all died in 2020 and this is hell."
>>107080501The guy tries to build Roko's basilisk.
>>107100601Found the bugman.
>>1071006042012, actually.
>>107100604>oh noooOoOOoOooo, a thinking program that automates work and frees people from the mundanity of the 9 to 5>WHAT?! it even has the potential to perform research, cure diseases including cancer etc????!?!?!>whatever will we dooOoOooo?!?!
>>107100677I'm white, actually, and AI is white technology.
>>107100723>I'm white, actually, and AI is white technology, saar.
>>107100740>OpenAI, Anthropic, Microsoft, XThese are all white. The only major player that isn't is Google, but even then their AI is built on the works of white data scientists.Next time make sure you know what the fuck you're on about before trying to talk big.
>>107092753>He doesn't need to understand every single detail about everything, thats left to his employeesMany such caseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmpdrP5kI0
>>107080442get real friends and connections, ensure you have real-world skills and a real job that will never be useless, the digital world is getting flushed down the shitter
>>107080442Lot of these people ,Not Just Musk make these predictions , Flying Cars, Space Travel, VR , Phones etc , ETC! , they are Usually Correct , it is coming , BUT Nearly Always off,many of the Predictions you Multiple it by about 3 or 4 times to get the correct number.
>>107101034This right here. Tech is suiciding itself. but your plumber is still going to charge you twelve assloads of cash to stop your shitter from heaving up turdwater all over your basement floor, and he don’t need to pay an ai to do it.
>>107080442Memristor supremecy 2028My edge ai is a shitakke mushroom that can guess btc mining nonces
>>107084687>there's nowhere for heat to go in a vacuum so it'd melt within seconds of being switched onThe moon is a giant slab of rock and ice at 0 degrees kelvin anon. You don't need an atmosphere for thermal energy transfer, you just need proximity.
>>107099419>Wtf does that even mean?all software is fucking hardware, what is it that you do not understand? all of your software is encoded in fucking hardware. it's fucking particles, arranged a certain way, in this fucking reality. all of your bits are stored as holes in fucking paper (punchcards) or as some particle arrangement on some fucking media. it's not in the fucking akashic records, it's here in this reality, it's fucking hardware. the way it works at is not efficient as you waste time and cycles getting it and storing it.the current hardware is shit that way. the brain has no such issues. processing and storage happens in the same place.>It would still need an OS. Do you even know what the OS is doing?fucking kys
>>107099428>Maybe we are talking about wrong things because in AI research they are calling LLMs that can prompt themselves and have tool calling scripts “agents”. But what I mean by real agency is setting your own goals"corporation says">This isn’t just being asked to do something hard and then setting series of simpler goals to follow, this is straight up deciding what it wants to do on its own without following orders.yeah they want human like abilities but perfect slaves, that was always the case. humans always wanted that, they're willing to do anything for it.
>>107080442Oh yeah yes a real fortune teller. Nigga I was reading books in the early 2000s getting enraged bc they were talking about this shit, and I was designing a contextual OS gui to remove the OS & app experience from the user entirely, replacing it all with this single Turing passable ui, and I it looked like everyone else was going to beat us.None of these are new ideas, they’re just finally being funded. …with nation-bankrupting sums of cash, while the citizens starve & rot in the fuckin gutters from easily preventable diseases bc no one can afford to see a fucking dentist or doctor. So much for your advanced technological society.
>>107100421I understand the skepticism about '5 years' - and Elon saying 5 years makes me want to assume it'll be 25, but I don't understand this attitude. Why does any of those things you asked about seem like something the AI wouldn't be able to do based on what it can already do? You've seen what real-time AI-generated videogames look like currently, just extrapolate a few years into the future.
>>107101247it's like expecting a horse to fly. it's limited in what it can ever achieve. does move you around but limited. needs new hardware to fly
>>107080442It's not a prediction, it's what he wants to happen. He's announcing his intentions more than anything else.
>>107080442>no os>no apps>no phones>everything will be replaced by aiEverything will be public for everyone to view.
>>107100601You're extremely autistic
>>107101247>just extrapolate a few years into the future.You now realize that most people cannot do that. This is reserved only for 3 digit IQs only. 2 digit IQs land in jail so frequently because they do not have this ability. And thats 50% of the population.
>>107101285Not just intention, he's trying to make his will into reality. Its properly called agency. Beings with agency can turn reality into their will. Those without agency get confused by it.
>>107101171So you're retarded, got it.
>this threadWhy are leftists and redditors so jealous, spiteful, and generally unpleasant? Is it some sort of extension of their self-loathing?
he is not very good with time estimates
>>107101641Brainwashing. If the propaganda can get them to castrate themselves, it can make you believe anything. Anyone with a functioning brain can understand thats a bad thing, but propaganda overrides their brain and they become captive zombies
>>107080442Why do CEOs have so much free time
>>107087059A word processor program hasnt glitched out for me like youre describing in at least 20-25 years. I'm talking the Windows XP days.Just get the AI to wipe my ass. Then get the AI to fuck my wife. Same result, right?
>>107080442more like /ouridiot/
>>107090307You cant cull humanity as long as you're still utilizing the capitalist system because it circular, the labor force IS the consumer base. You fire all the workers and there's nobody left to buy anything. Then all businesses declare bankruptcy because theres nothing to sell, no one to service, or market to.
>>107102248Well we dont have magic that transforms the entire society over night. We have gradual changes. Capitalism works on and balances upon supply x demand. If they're not selling one thing, they will lower price until they get demand. And for companies, to lower that, they need to reduce cost. Robots do that. So they will replace/reduce the cost of goods down to raw materials/electricity necessary to run those robots to meet the supply x demand curve. To the point where eventually, the price of goods falls down. Right now, in the world, the cost of goods is high and goes higher and higher cause of human labor input.
>>107102819That is demonstrably not true. At this point the consumer base is tapped out, nobody has ANY extra money to spend. Even if companies lowered prices now, demand WON'T go up because consumer spending power is competely drained from the rising cost of all their essentials. Look at the housing market. No humans are buying houses, only corporations are.
>>107101576>I still don't get it
>>107102248buy what for what purpose? people who'll really have the power will be the ones who own the technology, means of manufacture and access to resources and energy. which coincidentally they're building their own nuclear power reactors atm, a lot of corporations are.they can design and manufacture anything, with no human included. they can also program robots to iterate and test so they fulfill the role that the market would. way cheaper and faster and more efficient.all of what you are seeing now is basically bloat. AGI/ASI will be genie in a bottle, you ask for shit and it does it, no human intervention required, fastest and most efficient possible way. you literally ask it for whatever, like you would a genie. you'll get a cost breakdown including time. you agree it starts doing it.people find it hard to understand that it's not only pleb, it's basically everyone, everyone will go, and that can easily be done with some pandemic that nobody has the cure for, but a select group of people that will inherit everything. that means that even "rich" people will also go. rich doesn't mean anything, if you're not some gorillionaire. you need assets and tech and access to resources, not big number in bank account. that gets zeroed out when the time comes lmao
>>107104036>my lobster is too buttery and my steak too juicy
