Windows 10 still has 3 years of updates (regular version) and 7 years of updates (LTSC version).
>>107081323> pictureThis kind of user probs also thinks they need to buy a new computer for W11.
The regular version only gets updates if you log in with a Microsoft account. One of the key reasons not to use Win11.
>>107081359who the fuck even uses regular version?
>>107081323>I just deactivated bitlocker on win10 ltsc>I'm writing 10 iot ltsc on a drive rn (just in case)>I will delete win10 in a couple mins to have more space for loonix>Is my BIOS/UEFI M$ infested? Should I reset that as well?>wish me luck>see ya later
>>107081572On this board?Probably no one.Everywhere else?Almost every one that hasn't upgraded their personal machine yet.
>laptop has win 11>literally just win 10 but with a shittier UI and certain features inexplicably removeddesktop is staying on win10 for the foreseeable future
>>107081323>normalfags>knowing or caring about what an EOL is
>>107081359>The regular version only gets updates if you log in with a Microsoft account.Wrong.https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol
>>107081323Can somebody explain to me what the widespread apprehension to upgrading to the latest versions of software is Without using pejorative laden language phrased as a screeching rant? I'm not a Windows user, so please bear with me. But as far as I know, almost as soon as new stuff comes out, the community releases tweaking tools and GUI enhancements and privacy tools to make it look like the old version or not phone home or run faster or debloat it and tons of other customization options. So I'm not really sure what all the fuss is about.
>>107082596>the community releases tweaking tools the very fact that we need to do this is what makes it a pain in the ass. windows 11 offers no advantage over windows 10.Also, some things are hard to fix. Windows 11's uis perform worse than 10.
>>107081323>windows 10 ltsc iot>your version of windows has reached end of supportuhm.. ltscbros?
>>107083610Hi, thanks for responding. Is it not a free upgrade? From what I understand, Windows 10 was a free upgrade.
>>107083626Yes, it's a free downgrade.
Genuine question, if you are running W10 22H2, be it LTSC or w/e, what exactly is the point?It's the same code as W11, it has the same identical services, it has the same pre-installed software, it even has CoPilot.So what exactly do you gain from this? Given that in 1/2 years most mainstream software will stop suppring W10 and you will have to scavenge through 3rd parties etc to just get a browser.And you cannot use the "I debloated it" - "I don't care" answers because you can just waste the same amount of time doing the exact same thing on W11, hell you can even get the square borders + W10 taskbar as it's still baked in W11.So genuinely, what is the point? Is it so you can just say you're cool and different?(no I don't use Windows and never will outside of a VM)
>>107083694Mozilla still released Firefox 3 years after Windows 7's EOL, then there's r3dfox after Mozilla drops support.>So genuinely, what is the point? Is it so you can just say you're cool and different?I don't want a slower GUI, or the volume bar in the taskbar being combined with network and power crap.
>>107083694your question has been answered thousands of times at this point, including in this very thread.retard.
>>107081323I haven't installed a single update and everything still works exactly the same, so why do we need updates and why does "end of support" matter again when it changes literally nothing and everything functions exactly the same
>>107083771I see, but good thing Windows 11 has the exact same W10 GUI including Taskbar with a toggle on WindHawk.My guess is it's a valid thing to debloat/customize Windows 10 but you magically are not allowed to do it on Windows 11 because /g/ said so.>>107083779Why even bother replying if you're a mouth-breather and have nothing of value to write to the specific question.
>>107083819>Why even botherI could ask you the same thing you fucking troglodyte. Read the thread next time.
>>107083830>read thread>zero valid and factual reasons posted as to why use w10 past 21h2 over w11 as they're 1 to 1 identical>just made up /g/-tier garbage reasons postedOk man.
>>107083933No, I just seek normal human responses form this shithole, I wrote in the first post that I only use Windows within a VM.You're the first person that actually gave 2 valid points of why to still bother with W10, even though the TaskManager issue is already fixed.And the File Explorer can literally be fixed with WindHawk, but again on this board debloating/fixing W10 is fine, but it magically cannot apply to W11 even though it's the same thing after debloating/fixing.I just find it funny how much time and effort people are willing to spend on Windows, specifically diff versions when they're all the same garbage in the end.But yes I do agree, it's going downhill, but it didn't start with W11, it started with W10 21H2 (cuz it's literally W11).Also fun fact, Windows 10 had a memory leak in File Explorer, but let's pretend it doesn't matter but the TaskManager issue from Windows 11 matters, not like W10 was the main thing back then right.
>>107084073>it started with W10 21H2 (cuz it's literally W11).no it isn't you disingenuous brown retard
I thought the new hotness among the troll sweatshops was fooling idiots into installing 7. Now they're compromising with 10 since that is too much of an ask.It's hilarious.
>>107084073I don't know why my post got deleted.Windows 10 may be bad and the trend was already visible then, but 11 is further along the curve. It's inaccurate to say that it's literally the same as 10, many of its uis have been rewritten in react.
>>107084117They are, though, up until 22H2, all the shit you think W11 has is also inside of your W10.Only difference is it's easier to remove Copilot from W10, as it's more "integrated" in W11.Do you really think W10 wouldn't force a MS Account etc down your throat if it didn't stop being supported? It would be the exact same trash (because it already is).But funnily enough some people sign in with a MS account on W10 to get ESU, hilarious ngl.>>107084150I agree about the react shit, even though I nuked half the shit and use a Start/Taskbar/Explorer replacement, it's pretty sad to see.I guess I just cannot comprehend a mind of someone still forcing W10/11 on his PC as a main OS when there are decent alternatives, and you can just VM a Windows install anyways.
I have a legit 10 education version and it isn't getting updates
>>107084364>I just cannot comprehend a mind of someone still forcing W10/11 on his PC I was actually trying linux for the n-th time today. Even on linux mint, which is supposed to be the most normie friendly "just works" distro, the touchpad support is STILL terrible. I can't use it.
>>107084364>all the shit you think W11 has is also inside of your W10.except they aren't>Only difference is it's easier to remove Copilot from W10W10 doesn't have copilot though
>>107081323The sooner you get used to Linux the better off you'll be in the future. You know you're going to have to make the switch someday
>>107083819>Windows 11 has the exact same W10 GUI including Taskbar with a toggle on WindHawk.wrong on all counts
i dont understand why normies think w10 will "die" on some specific date. no official messaging from microsoft has said that the OS will be unusable, just that it wont get updates
>>107083624werks on my machine, it's even giving me updoots that i dont want
>>107082596historically, every windows OS has been dogshit for 5-10 years until it either got enough updates to be stable, or hardware and third-party tools just outpaced how awful the core OS isit happened with 95/98/2000 (said to be crash happy eyesore garbage but is now better understood and the look is charmingly oldschool) XP (thought of as a virus collector that went too hard on bubbly design, now is le ebin zoomer retro sovl), Vista (thought to be ugly and high overhead then, is quaint and hardware is cheap now so it doesnt matter), 7 (vista but somehow even uglier, also got gud becuase of software compatibility and high overhead not mattering anymore) and 10 (basically same complaints as about 11 in that it had "cortana" "AI" and pushed having a MS account, but theyve since relented and cortana is ded)give it 10 years and people will be talking about W11 like they do W10 itt. but right now it has all the usual microsoft new OS issues; it's slow, it's ugly, and there isn't much reason to upgrade when W10 finally just werks.
>>107084392see >>107082548
>>107081612And this nigga was never heard from again. By deactivating bitlocker and secure boot he literally bricked his drive.
>>107085433>8.1 I am forgotten
>>107086921no one used 8.1 and it was basically a prototype for W10 anyway. and fwiw 8.0 Developer Preview was superior in every way. the only people who say 8.1 was ohhhh so goooodddd are /v/ tier contrarians trying to knowledge drop
I remember when /g/ was saying they would NEVER upgrade from XPThen 7then 8.1Now 10. Theres 3 cycles to a windows update faggotry.1- new update comes out, people claim its the worst ever and the n-1 version is the LAST version to ever not have spyware. They will never upgrade ever! The new version is shit though, since its buggy and written by pajeets.2- A few years later the n-1 version enters EOL. By now, the new version has been patched a hundred thousand times and has generally wide adoption. But theres people whos computers are either too old or simply need the hacker street cred of being on the original version of windows. They will NEVER upgrade, and they WILL switch to linux.3- This phase is much smaller, but it still always exists. By now the "last good windows" is n-2 or n-3. Everyone has moved on. They are starting phases 1 and 2 for a new new version of windows, but theres still some japanese holdouts. These people like to discuss their antique operating system and how its the only operating system true hackers use. Its the last windows you could truely customize. Its the last windows without spyware (though 3 years of running without patches has riddled the install with spyware), and most importantly, its the last version thats not bloated! During this phase a few autistic retards make enough threads to convince a dozen or so 13 year olds who lurk here that this version of windows really is the best and they install it. They pretty quickly move back to the latest version since its required for ray tracing in neopets or whatever. After this the version truely dies.
>>107081323>ducking copeJust install Linux Mint.
>>107087713>By now the "last good windows" is n-2 or n-3.>During this phase a few autistic retards make enough threads to convince a dozen or so 13 year olds who lurk here that this version of windows really is the best and they install it. They pretty quickly move back to the latest version since its required for ray tracing in neopets or whatever.so the 8.1 retards that infest every thread
>>107087726Yea in a year or two it will be the win 10 retards, and then 4-5 years after that the win 11 retards. Win 11 will be the LAST windows without spyware one day. And the last non-bloat windows. And then so will windows 12. You can predict the movement of planets with how regular this behavior is.
>>107087738already said it in >>107085433fwiw i hated w10 when i first got it, and now i kinda like it and don't miss xp or 8. (i skipped vista and 7). people just dont like change
learn linux or be a cattle, the choice is yours.
>>107088049>Learn Linux or switch to IoT LTSC or be cattle, the choice is yours.Fixt yer typos, m8 :^)
>>107087738And I can predict your gay reddit "lol they said they will never upgrade before" posts like clockwork.For some of us the choice of an OS is just practical. So if W7 or W10 or W23 happens to be the best option at any point in time, that's what we're going to use. It's just an OS, it's a tool for running software.Right now W10 is the best choice for like 90% of Windows users. Maybe in a few years things will be different. We'll talk about that when it happens.
>>107081359>The regular version only gets updates if you log in with a Microsoft accountOnly if you're an ignorant normalfag cuckYou don't need a Microsoft account for the 3 year commercial ESU that MAS can activate for free
>>107083624This bug was fixed over 2 weeks agoIf you're still seeing it, you probably used ShutUp10++ or something similar. Here's how to fix this:https://massgrave.dev/faq#why-is-the-windows-update-page-in-windows-10-enterprise-ltsc-2021-showing-your-device-is-no-longer-receiving-security-updates
>>107081323I nuked windows from my old laptop and installed fedora kde plasma instead.So far it's been a very pleasant experience.
>>107081338I literally do if I wanted windows 11 and not have performance issues for bypassing the hardware restrictions
>>107087713Based>> few autistic retards make enough threads to convince a dozen or so 13 year olds who lurk here that this version of windows really is the bestKEK
Back in my days people screamed that windows98 GOAT and they never install windowsXP. Never ever. 23 years later nothing changed.
>>107089747Thank you, that did the trick. But I'm unsure about enabling telemetry and data collection.
What's your guys's take on 0patch? https://0patch.com/ Is it good or not?
>>107090212Pointless for most people.If you use Windows 7 for sensitive data it's better to just not be connected to the internet.
>>107087713Same thing happened for w98 too, was before /g/ though. People will get a new computer sooner or later and it doesn't support old windows so they use new windows.
>>107087738You:re a useful idiot shill that lies, we know. Does Microsoft actually pay poos to shill Windows on here now? This board is dead
>>107091646Anon called you out
>>107091973Still on 7.
>>107081323Have you not read the news? Most people are starting to use Windows 7 instead.
>>107092022the last windows without spyware
>>107092022>Still on 7.Based, i'm still using it.
