Is this the best entry level distro? I'm a Windows refugee, I have been enslaved by Windows my whole life and I decided I had enough beatings already. I want something that just works, albeit I'm afraid since Ubuntu is partially owned by Amazon, it will feature AI fuckery soon.
>>107089346see you back on windows in two weeks
>>107089346>I want something that just worksThen get a Mac and use OSX.
Yeah. I don't like it because it's GNOME, and spins are always inferior, but it's actually production-ready. Everything else is broken and buggy and made by random nerds.Debian is decent and it's probably BECAUSE of Ubuntu that it is kept at such a standard. Everything else is shit. And I use Mint. It clearly isn't as solid though.
>>107089374I would rather kill myself than still use Windblows for 2 more weeks. There's just so much bullcrap a man could take before his breaking point.
>>107089346Absolutely not, Ubuntu is a corporate meme distro that you will regret trying to useIf you're not retarded, install an Arch-based distro and use the Arch wiki every time you're stuck. That's the easiest way to learnIf you don't want to learn and want something that just works, use one of those meme gaymer distros
>>107089346Try Kubuntu (24.04not the 25.10), then try Linux Mint, then try Fedora. If none of them are to your liking and you want to go balls deep then install Arch Linux. If you don't want to go balls deep try CachyOS.
>>107089346I would recommend straight up Fedora with a packaged Desktop Environment.
>>107089346Nowadays even arch is a entry level distro, if you want to nig it up just use archinstall even a monkey can get it running in 5 minutes at most.Break it while fiddling? Just reinstall it in 5 minutes, keep your files in a different partition/drive.
>>107089409The fact it's corporate is why it's so much better than the garbage put out by random geeks who want to pretend they're offering a serious desktop OS. It's not even debatable really, it is so obvious that everything not Red Hat, Ubuntu, Debian, is not even close.
>>107089432The fact it's corporate is why it continuously does things in an awful way and tries to trap you in corporate networks instead of letting you use the normal open source channels. Ubuntu is your choice if you want outdated software by shitty sources while being told to pay for something or other every few daysYou sound like a paid shill
>>107089346>Is this the best entry level distro?No.>I'm a Windows refugeeStart with Linux Mint.It's Ubuntu + lots of QOL improvements. Pic very related.If you need even more Windows-lookalike, check out zorin OS.
>>107089346https://youtu.be/xIBiBF6029Y
Linux Mint Xfce to start with and get your bearings, move onto Arch/Debian/Fedora/OpenSUSE when it starts limiting you.
What you want it something away from corpo fuckery then Arch is your best bet. Start with Mint though, second best choice here
>>107089346Yes. Ubuntu has always felt the most professional and works-out-the-box of the linux distros. Anything else people recommend is just people fanboying their favourite distro which is not newbie friendly (like literally someone here recommending arch ffs lol)
>>107089532When Arch breaks you go to the Arch wiki and find a detailed writedown of everything you need. You learn why it broke, how to fix it, and what to do to avoid it in the futureWhen Ubuntu breaks you Google and find an Ubuntu forum closed 9 years ago with the last post being "PM'd you the fix"Which is more new uses friendly?>b-but Ubuntu doesn't breaklmao.
>>107089532Yes recommend gnome and snaps to a beginner what could possibly go wrong
Yes
>>107089346Any OS can work for you, but you have to let it choose you. Sounds faggy, but it's the truth. Try a ton of them and see which clicks for you. For me it was Arch, and I didn't expect that to be the case given how smooth brained I am.
>>107089446It is professional grade software and not worse than what Windows used to be before it became a full on advertisement platform. Open Source is filled with SHIT. People just don't care if they aren't being paid, so they make shit. Almost every Linux distro is shit.You can use Debian and then you are happy. Debian is kept to such a high standard because of Ubuntu, otherwise it would probably be duck taped together like all the other FOSS shit.
>>107089550In all fairness you can just copy the fucking log to an AI these days and have it tell you want you need to do with 99% accuracy for either distro.
>>107089550It's shit. Every element of the computer MUST always work when it turns on otherwise it's fake and you are dualbooting like everyone because you KNOW it's shit, and can't have a situation where you NEED to print a document fast and you can't because the shit OS is fucked again.
>>107089645Are you implying that printing always works flawlessly on windows? Printers smell fear. You need to print something in a hurry? Everything will go wrong, regardless of OS. There's no worse consumer technology ever invented than printers
>>107089346Ubuntu has a history of doing corporate shit nobody asked for like snaps.For that reason, people tend to recommend derivatives like Mint.
>>107089672Not that anon (I'm actually OP). I bought a Brother laser printer because /g/ told me Brother was the best printer. Turns out you need software to print, because neither LibreOffice nor Okular let me print on Windows 11. This is part of the reason why I'm leaving Windows forever.I just want things to work, God damn it!
U can use whatever you want, just stay away from nig/g/ers who recommend ubuntu. I’ll use oracle or redhat or tranny distros like nixos or arch, but not canonical. Even Microsoft better than canonical
people are mad at ubuntu because>it rejects one tech-meme (flatpak) in favour of their own tech-meme (snap).>ubuntu pushes for rust, which makes the old guard foaming with anger>ubuntu is more or less de-facto standard on the server side
>>107089864Who the hell cares if it's the standard on server side..? If it sucks to use it sucks to use. Nobody uses a server OS for desktop.
>>107089346newcomers from windows usually pick either mint or zorinevery other opinion here is invalid
>>107089346Mint will be the most user friendly and similar to Windows, it's also Debian based like Ubuntu is. Ubuntu is still very user friendly. You can't go wrong with either, and remember you can always try both on a flash drive before you commit.Get a big enough USB drive and use Ventoy on it, you can then load both images on it and boot one after you've tried the other.
>>107090215EDIT: Linux Mint with Cinnamon desktop environment.Some users in here have said to use XFCE, but Cinnamon is the desktop environment that is closest to what you will be used to in Windows. Gnome is reminiscent of Win 11 / macOS.You can eventually load whatever desktop environment you like in most Linux distributions (Plasma by KDE is another popular choice).Some people shit on the site, but distrowatch.com has a good compilation of info on various distributions (also note the small menu in the right hand side of different distros), they tell you what each's primary purpose is, what kind of desktop environments they ship with by default, etc.
try LTSC 2021 before taking the plunge. i say this as a Linux user of 10 years.>>>/g/fwt/
>>107089409arch is a meme and developed by idiots
>>107089346mint
>>107090240Please just use KDE/Plasma. Cinnamon has a billion problems that show themselves the moment you try to do something nonstandard, like connect a second screen, and XFCE is extremely barebones and will disappoint you
>>107090240Mint is so fucking bad it's not even funny.
>>107090410It's just Ubuntu with the bad parts removed...
>>107090410Mint is a good landing pad for Windows lifers, that said, I am using Ubuntu. I just think it's important to point out to tourists that they can change it up and aren't stuck with one interface.>>107090379Anything else besides the second screen? Valid point, but it doesn't effect the majority of users coming over from Windows, so they need comfort to get used to the environment.
In this thread every mainstream distro was called the best at least once and retarded at least once. Why is it so hard to get a recommendation?
>>107090379I installed fedora xfce on my thinkpad x220t cause I thought a lightweight DE would be good, but it was a bit disappointing so I tried kde plasma instead, which turned out to be a vastly better user experience.
>>107090410What's bad about mint
>>107090410>Mint is so fucking bad it's not even funny.Why? Mint is basically Ubuntu if it was good
>>107090560linux autists have strong opinions and tend to be incapable of understanding other people's perspectives. newcomers tend to not specify (or know in advance) what their needs are. it doesn't really matter much, just pick one and start using it.
>>107090560Because the differences come from three different categories:>package management, how old or new are the packages and which command do you use to install them>desktop environment so how does it look and feel to use>tweaks and preinstalled software tailored for certain purpose like servers or gaming or low-end hardwareYou can install different packages and desktop environments on pretty much all of them so the differences are pretty minor for anyone who is already used to Linux. If some other desktop environment is better people can just install that instead of switching distros again. So without telling what you're going to do with that machine the answers are going to be all over the place. Someone is going to recommend a server distro since it has a two year uptime and incredible stability that you can count on, someone is going to recommend a gaming distro because gaming matters the most, someone is going to recommend a lightweight distro because it runs smooth and well on an ancient Thinkpad. People often recommend Ubuntu or Mint because they are meant for desktop and are preconfigured so you don't have to know what you want. You might eventually want something else but as a newcomer you don't even know what the options are yet so someone else has to make the decisions. Different distros might look and feel totally different to use but that's just the desktop environment and maybe the preinstalled software.
>>107090560Realistically any major (maintained) distro is a good starting point for new linux users. Any variant of ubuntu, linux mint, fedora are good just because of the fact that they're all major distros with various online resources that will answer any question a new linux user might have. Any differences between these distros and any problems a user might have with them will surface after the person actually starts using them. At that point the user would have a good idea of what they want from their system and will see which distro and what settings give them that.Nowadays Arch might be good for relative beginners as well, but not beginners who just moved away from Windows.
>>107089346>Is this the best entry level distro?yes.>Ubuntu is partially owned by Amazonit's not.It's probably the best choice for a Linux noob. Don't install Arch or other crap. Those are not beginner distros, and they're not really "advanced" distros either. They're for people who like to tinker with their computers more than anything else. The reason SteamOS uses Arch as base is because it gives their developers more room to experiment and optimize. If you just want to use your computer Ubuntu is great. In time you may want to switch to something else for various reasons, but you will have to learn a lot about how desktop linux works first before you feel the need to switch. Good luck!
>>107089346>I want something that just worksjust buy a machttps://apple.com/mac
>>107090379>Please just use KDE/Plasma>[OTHER desktop] has a billion problemskek, right
>>107093861I have LITERALLY never had an issue with Plasma 6
>>107093882I've had 1 issue with Plasma 6, but that's it. I think I would have had a lot more with Windows, for example
>>107089346I always tell people don't choose the distro, choose the desktop environment. If it's cinnamon go mint otherwise the ubuntu lts variant of whatever environment you like the look of most. Once you have some experience you can start looking towards something not ubuntu based.
>>107089346Ubuntu is a good beginner distro, yes. But as other anons have said, it isn't really recommended because of Canonical.For a Windows exile I'd guess Fedora KDE would be miles better since it has a familiar experience and is very stable and polished. You can go regular Fedora or maybe even try some of the Atomic Fedora distros which are harder to break for the regular user.That's why you see so many people recommending Bazzite. It's based on Atomic Fedora with all gaming integration for a better experience to ex-Windows users.TL;DR try Bazzite if you're a gamer, go with regular Fedora KDE if you're a regular user.
Yes, absolutely, without a doubt
>>107089346Yes, if you are just trying to run a home server use Ubuntu. Its ok for desktop too, its the hardest distro to break, ive done some extremely niggerly stuff on Ubuntu and have managed to recover Arch is funner to use tho. Mint is for posers
>>107093945>BazziteConsider the following>Nobara
Either Ubuntu or Fedora
>>107089346>the bestThat's subjective.>excellent for beginnersYes.But if you're coming from Windows then you'd be better using a diferent Desktop Enviroment, like KDE. Which is more reminiscent to Windows. Kubuntu would be better for you because it's Ubuntu but with KDE by default.
>>107094057>Nobarawhat does it do better than Bazzite?I'm currently using Aurora, which is the non-gaming, more general use spin of universal blue distros. Aka Bazzite's sister distro.But I'd have no issues trying Nobara if it's better.
>>107089346a lot of people like it but it was recommended to me when I first started, and it really put me off... its very easy to use, but its better to just use Mint (which is the same but with better changes)honestly just spin up a VM and pick ANY of the main distros (or a couple of very popular spin-offs) and try them out. You cant go wrong. It should be pretty apparent what one you will like.
>>107089346Ubuntu is fine as a beginner distro. Just try it and see if it works for you. People will gripe about it having Amazon spyware or whatever, but that was already taken out, and it was never nearly 0.001% as bad as Windows in that regard.Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, CachyOS all seem to be fine beginner distros. The Linux community has a lot of autism in it, so any talk about any distro will have dozens of people picking apart every little thing they don't like about it. They're probably not Windows refugees like you. Just use whatever works for you.
>>107090410Whenever a Linux noob says [insert distro] sucks, most of the time they're really just talking about the DE it shipped with
>>107089346Generally it's recommended that you start off with Gentoo.
>>107089346No, brightness slider doesn't even come enabled on Ubuntu, it's horseshit.
>>107089346>I'm a Windows refugee,And Cononical is the M$ of the Loonix world shoving unwanted shit down the throats of the users still dumb enough to use it.
>>107094163retardpeople gripe about ubuntu because it is anti user and the ones that would suffer the most from it are linux noobarch is unironically a better beginer distro
