Fake bass traps edition.How to request advice:>Location (since pricing and availability may vary)>Budget>What exactly you're looking for (be as detailed as possible)>Previous gear and your thoughts on it>Open back wired headphones• Hifiman HE400se• Sennheiser HD 560S• Sennheiser HD 6XX (US)• FiiO FT1 Pro>Closed back wired headphones• Shure SRH440A/SRH840A• AKG K361/K371• FiiO FT1>Wireless Bluetooth headphoneshttps://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-feature/wireless-bluetooth>Wireless Gaming headphoneshttps://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/wireless-gaming-headsets>Active desktop/bookshelf speakers• Edifier R1280/MR3/MR4• iLoud Micro• Kali LP-6 v2• Neumann KH 80• KEF Coda W>Passive desktop/bookshelf speakers• KEF Q1/Q3 Meta• Ascilab F6B>Headphone amps• Your PC• Apple dongle• Topping DX1>Interfaces• Steinberg IXO22• Topping E1x2• Motu M2>Speaker amps• Loxjie A30• Yamaha R-S202• WiiM Amp>EQ/DSP software• Equalizer APO (Windows)• EasyEffects (Linux)• SoundSource (Mac)• Wavelet / RootlessJamesDSP (Android)>EQ/DSP hardware• Qudelix 5K• Neutron DAC V1• miniDSP>Useful resourceshttps://xiph.org/video/https://harmanhowtolisten.blogspot.com/https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.phphttps://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/>Previous thread>>107059500
Why even make a new one if the old one is still up?Also, EQ is a cope. Get better headphones.Also, electrostats ftw.
>>107090573No need for bass traps, just do it the old fashioned way.Plenty of wood, bookshelves and furniture. The room will bring the speakers up to life. Just don't put them too close to walls so the bass doesn't resonate too much, make sure you get a good amp (or two) and put on some nice audiophile quality music. Even better if its on vinyl. Enjoy.
>>107090573Finally getting back into audio just put a 2nd 12" on the htpc setup and doing 6" components with amps in the cars with 10" parcel shelf subs
>>107090649>just don't play bass and there's no need for bass traps
What's a good pair of shielded stereo speakers for my desk puter?
Posted the other day about an interesting no brand BT dongle and I just stumbled into this one https://www.fiio.com/airlinkSeems it uses the same chip and has the same specsFor some reason it doesn't support AAC yet(*)
>>107090858Classic fiio, release something with broken firmware and (hopefully) fix it over time.
Crazy ribbon chink shit.
>>107090649The problems that bass traps solve are caused by room dimensions, not by what's inside the room.
>>107090689Natural sounding bass (the actual instrument) from a very good audiophile recording is not an issue at all. Are you trying to play your kiddy dubstep and trap remix music because bass go boomboom and that makes you seem cool?
>>107090843The shielding thing is not an issue anymore, that was only a concern many years back in the day when people could only use CRT monitors.
>>107091654>very good>audiophilePick one.
>>107091217more info on this? the grill looks almost exactly like an ATH from their open back lineup
>>107091324But the bass traps are a substitute for furniture. If you have a very empty room, you're gonna need bass traps. If you have the same room but in a traditional old house full of wooden furniture and books and a big sofa and a couch etc you might not need bass traps at all
>>107091713>But the bass traps are a substitute for furnitureNo.
i built 2 bass traps yesterday and they actually work. only above 100hz though. i still have 2 nulls at 35 and 75hz
>>107091689I don't get what you mean.
>>107091716Pretty much yes. Depending on how anal you want to get, and you don't work in a recording studio, so you don't need a completely perfect room. You're supposed to let the room add to the sound.
>>107091706Allen ribbon. Apparently they're a few years old but I just now saw them on aliexpresshttps://aliexpress.com/item/1005010048876570.html
>>107091722Pretty much just stop posting, retard.https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?attachments/acoustics-insider-the-complete-guide-to-bass-traps-and-bass-trapping-v2-pdf.271485/
>>107091716Pretty much yes. Depending on how anal you want to get, and you don't work in a recording studio, so you don't need a completely perfect room. You're supposed to let the room add to the sound of your hifi (not studio) speakers.On the other hand if your wife doesn't mind that the livingroom is full of bass traps and acoustic panels everywhere plus ceiling etc, and you have the money to do something like that (proper acoustic treatment is really expensive) by all means go at it. But I don't think that happens often.
>>107091717>only above 100hz thoughSo... not really bass trappin'PS: You need to put something under those edifiers. You don't want speakers directly sat over a hard surface like wood.
>>107091739Furniture has 0 (ZERO) effect on room modes.
>>107091727Huh I would like to see some measurements of that.
>>107091737That's not a direct response to what I said, that's just yet another ASR website link. Plus amir is a lentil.
>>107091756There's a reason why people have always put thick rugs in front of their speakers. It helps a lot with reflections. And a rug counts as furniture.
>>107091764You were told you're mistaken and explained why. From now on you will be merely shat on for being a clueless retard.
>>107091776And that reason is not bass you absolute brainless moron. You need 10 inches of material to even begin absorbing bass frequencies. That's the stupid way of course. For the smart way you need to read.
>>107091778Not explained, only sent a link to a lengthy guide.
>>107091787Sure, but you said furniture has 0 effect and a rug is furniture and it does have an effect. I never said it would be specifically for bass.
>>107091845A rug has 0 (ZERO) effect on bass.>I never said it would be specifically for bass.This you >>107091713 ?>bass traps are a substitute for furniture
>>107091713The substitute for furniture is a diffusor, not an absorber. Read a book.>>107091833Never mind, if you could read you wouldn't be an audiopedophile.
I gotta say, estat is truly the best driver technology out there. It's not only truly impressive on headphones, but also on speakers. I own some Quads from 1957, each speaker fitted with nothing but 3 big estat panels, and with the right music the sound is just truly breath taking. A real window right into the music. I can only imagine how crazy it would sound like if I were to purchase another set and stack it up...
>>107091859Sure, I never said the rug would specifically help with bass issues. But it helps as a form of acoustic treatment, and with enough furniture (plenty of wood, bookshelves, big couch, sofa) you might not need a bass trap at all.
>>107091886And with the wrong music it self-destructs.>>107091898>and with enough furniture (plenty of wood, bookshelves, big couch, sofa) you might not need a bass trap at all.Furniture has 0 effect on bass.
>>107091884Of course I can read, but you can't simply post a link and expect me to read through a full on guide without giving a proper explanation first.
>>107091920>but you can't simply post a link and expect me to read through a full on guide without giving a proper explanation first.Watch me.
>>107091661>The shielding thing is not an issue anymoreI don't know, I got a lot of cables going around my desk and I occasionally still plug in my CRT for fun.
>>107091915>And with the wrong music it self-destructs.Which is not an issue if you're an audiophile because that would mean you have good taste for music and are not a retarded teenager that likes to blast trap remixes or whatever they listen to. It's a sophisticated speaker for sophisticated music.I actually made the mistake of upgrading to a model that could play louder, with more of everything, more modern, whatever, and I regret it big time. I should've kept it and get a different pair of speakers for other genres or use cases (movies for example).Just like with headphones: Jack of all trades, master of none. Have a collection to fit every purpose.
>>107091920Left: not a bass trap. Right: a bass trap.
>>107091975Should have learned how to build a 2.2 system. Master of all trades.
>>107090225Love to see it, DIY turboautism is much more interesting than non-stop consoomerism.
>>107091925Don't complain about me not reading it then.
>>107091995Doesn't sound like that's an estat system. So no.2.2 is ideal for movies though.
The trick to avoid consoomerism in hifi is to buy second hand stuff to other audiophiles (just never go to a store, avoid Dealer-Fi) and if you know what you're buying, it never goes down in value. Basically it gets to a point where you're simply passing around gear with other people from all over the world and you lose practically nothing and in some instances you even make money as prices keep going up for desirable equipment.Used old stuff is the only thing that's still interesting in this hobby anyway.
>>107092112Sounds like you never heard of martin logan.
>>107092103Watch me.
>>107091717You are overobsessing with room treatment for the wrong equipment. These small Edifier monitors are made for nearfield listening, meaning your perception is dominated by direct sound + you can just EQ the bass for your listening position. They also do not even go that deep in the bass to begin with to really worry about lower freq. room modes. Unless you push them with copious amounts of EQ, but then they will sound like shit regardless.If you are in an older fully wooden house - you won an audio lottery and can get away with very basic or even no room treatment at all.No reasonable amount of room treatment will fix a bad room with fully concrete walls and floor, unless you are loading literal trucks worth of Rockwool, and according to the cracks on your walls it is probably your case.
>>107092275>If you are in an older fully wooden house - you won an audio lottery and can get away with very basic or even no room treatment at all.Exactly, which is what I've been saying all along...
>>107092443If you ignore the part where you have to EQ bass for your listening position, sure.
>>107092479EQ is an invaluable tool in certain scenarios but it is not an audio panacea. It does not change the properties of the transducers, if you fix the on-axis response, you will mess up the off-axis and vice-versa, so a reasonably good flat speaker with sufficiently flat vertical and horizontal radiation patterns is needed. Fixing a dip or a peak caused by the room modes at one position will make it much worse at the other. Also it does not change the room itself - while reducing the volume of the problematic frequency helps, it does not necessarily help enough - I have tried EQing out mode peaks in a bad room with 0.9 sec decay at this region but it only got down to 0.6 sec, which is still too much for me.
>>107092742That's where real bass traps come into play, not fucking lumber.
>>107090573Active bass traps are best:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_bass_array
>>107092910Should I bother?
>>107090573>Wireless Bluetooth headphones>two sony that are notorious for breakingwhat is the actual top wireless headset (ANC for flights)
>>107094289There are only so many actual good options out there anon:>Sony's XM5/XM6>Bose QC Ultra v2>Sennheiser Momentum 4>Sennheiser HDB 630>AKG N9 (maybe?)>Bowers & Wilkins PX8>B&O H100They all have their pros and cons, and it's more of a matter of choose your poison than anything.
>>107094289Best noise cancelling is either one of the snap-happy Sonys, Bose, or Apple.
>>107094373I'll look at those then, thanks>>107094413bose it is then kek
>>107094428I mean since you want for flights the Bose is likely the best option to be fair, it's portable enough, has the best ANC alongside Sony's, it doesn't sound as shitty (allegedly, I don't own them), and the sound quality may not matter that much anyway since you'll be listening in a hostile environment, they just don't need to sound complete garbage. The general opinion is that out of those, the Sennheisers sound the best but their ANC are not on par with the Bose.
>>107093082I wish I could make one of these Instead I'll be making two dipole subwoofers for my electrostatic speakers and hope for the best
>>107093725Try testing at higher volume. Try testing with silence. Could simply be the noise floor.
My AKG 7xx(702 clone) have busted one of the cables in the cups, I repaired it once but it didn't last I think because the cable is getting too short. If I replace the cable, can I just use high quality automotive wire or should I get something better, can I use a heavier wire?
>>107094940If you've got automotive-grade wire already in a small enough gauge then it'll work fine, it's such a short run that it's not gonna affect anything.Funnily enough a very easy and not overly expensive way to get your hands on good quality copper wire is ethernet cable. Not as flexible as you'd want for a cable, but works great for internal connections.
>>107095085Ah yep, I have heaps of Ethernet around.
>>107090573I had a pair of headphones and they broke (sxfi air C)I have a "new" one and they work (ath-m50x)they are not in the guideI am happyhave a good day
>>107090573>crapple dongle
My preference vs Harman. The reason why most headphones are straight up unlistenable for me.
>dropped and abused my hd650 one too many times>left cable loose, distorted>nasty padsfeeling like i might as well get new onesbut which? i like the hd650 audio signature but don't mind more fun/sub bass and less treble (i've EQd my hd650 as such)eyeing hifimas sundara or edition xs. attractive pricing. edition xs look comfortable. but of course, i've been burned by their build quality before with the 400s. i do remember them fondly as they were fun but longevity is important and i don't like to tinker and do mods and hacksso now what do i get? $450 is my upper limit
>>107096841TH900 enjoyer eh?
thoughts on NOS?
>>107097488At best not measurably better, usually measurably worse and more expensive
>>107097974have you listened to it?
>>107098000If you A/B it you'll probably like it better because of placebo, if you double-blind ABX it you'll probably notice no difference
>>107098060so no
>>107096976HD490 Pro and Aune AR5000 make for decent EQ platforms
>>107096976the Sony MDR-MV1 as well
my hd600 hptf from diy in-ear micdoes it look any reasonable?
>>107097488Remember those scary stairstep waveforms that audiophiles post when talking about hi-res audio? That's what NOS outputs.
ist gud
>>107098566>HD490 Prothank you these looks very interesting
did some calibration to mic and got a very crude hpcfam i taking a right step?
>>107092172I have, but I don't really have much interest in their estat + sub designs. Better have two different speaker setups
>>107092479You don't really have to if you don't notice any blatant issues such as horrible cancellations or terribly boomy midbass, which shouldn't be an issue if, like I said, your livingroom is full of furniture with wood, books and sofas / couches.
>>107092742>It does not change the properties of the transducersExactly anon, and this is why these poorfags will never be able to turn a $200 crappy senny headphone into a high end headphone just by using EQ.
>>107100300Why do you keep repeating that wood affects bass. It doesn't. Everything you mentioned is determined by room dimensions, speaker location and listening position. And it can only be fixed by tuned resonators or active bass management systems.
>>107100300See the left part of >>107091982This is what a sofa is going to do, to a lesser degree. Wood won't even do that. It will mostly reflect. It serves an entirely different purpose.
>>107096779Funny how the MHDT Pagoda is at the very bottom of the list considering it's such a good dac (although not the best one that brand makes)Between MHDT and Lampizator, those are the best modern day DACs.
>>107096841How can you possibly enjoy SO MUCH bass. This isn't audiophile.
>>107100369So just get a better room. Or speakers that are less affected by your particular room modes
speaker setup>have a nice looking, classic livingroom in a nice old house>get vintage high end speakers, preferably electrostat (1957 quads)>get a vintage high end fully class A speaker amp (not an integrated) and a separate high end active preamp>get a nice turntable>get 1970s records containing music of audiophile quality>fully analog chain>no need for anything else>let it play and sink into your sofa that's all there is to it. Experience the pleasure.
>>107100486See >>107091982 again. Room modes have very narrow Q. A different room or speakers is not going to cut it if you want true hifi experience.
>>107100467Funny how audiophiles get good and bad completely backwards.>>107100512Lol.>>107100474>This isn't audiophile.That means it's good.
>>107100474These are probably IEMs (see the 8k peak) and the bass amount can vary a lot depending on the seal, also see the volume of 67dB and rember Fletcher-Munson curves that you need more bass and more treble on lower volumes. >>107094889This was measured at 87dB according to UMIK with calibration file with <500Hz Dirac bass correction. Also I have 0 room treatment, just a 150 year old wooden house. I got a 6 dB peak around 18Hz (you can see it rising at 20Hz), but cutting it does only removes the sensation of the floor shaking, so this mode is a keeper. I don't hear it despite 0.7 sec decay lol.
>jbl gets a new driver>room size option makes spatial sound not sound shitcrazy how much of a difference a driver update can make
>get a high-end tablet>no 3.5mm input>get one of these to try>DAC C to 3.5Might be cool. I like Ugreen and Anker.
Im looking for headphones with either a long cable or wireless for use with a VR headset. My current headphone is a cheap generic one from Walmart. It suits me well but if I’m forced to buy extension cords I’d rather put the money towards a new headset. I have a junk pair of headphones for Best Buy’s 20% off Logitech models, but I don’t know if they’re the best option. My budget is about $100-150 on the East Coast.
>>107101919FiiO FT1 + buy cable of whatever length you need. OpenHeart makes decent ones but if you want longer then Hart Audio does custom ones so you can get something that's whatever length you want. Any double 3.5mm cable will work. If you really need wireless from Logitech specifically then the G Pro X Wireless headset is okay but I'm not sure whether it'll be very long lasting. Won't sound great compared to some wired models either. Audeze Maxwell is wireless and is actually quite a good headphone even compared to some wired models but that's beyond your budget.
>>107099665I bought it to replace my old Momentum 3, will take a while to arrive as I had to import them.
$99 fostex has arrived.What will I think of it?
>>107102830It's kino
>>107100892It's for headphones. My IEM target has more of everything below 800Hz, including the bass. It's much closer to what IEM manufacturers are making so I've always had great experience with them.
>>107090573I have a budget of ~150-200€, and I'm between the Fiio FT1 or the Austrian Audio Hi-X20.Which one and how do I learn to compare for future?
>>107103158>Which oneFT1 will probably sound better, the midrange on the X20 looks fucked. If you want to EQ then stock frequency response is less important but you still have more boosting to do with the X20 which means FT1 would be better in that case as well. I'll say that X20 is probably better built, if nothing else. I haven't tried that particular model in person but most I've seen from that company seem to be well made.>how do I learn to compare for future?Look at the frequency response and distortion. squig.link has FR for most headphones and allows you to compare them directly. Deviation from the target is not necessarily a bad thing but an uneven frequency response and a recessed midrange are both things you don't want regardless. For THD ASR and diyaudioheaven are both good sources. Below 0.5% distortion is ideal but even up to 1% shouldn't be audible under most scenarios. For bass distortion can be higher than 1% before it becomes audible and bass distortion is not always unpleasant. What you absolutely don't want is treble distortion.
>>107103431Ok thanks, imma go sperg over charts for some time i guess
>BT dongle I just recieved that I was convinced supported LDAC doesn't, just aptX HDI might be retarded
>>107102830Not sure if worth it after Fidelio X2HR.Seem to make bad low bitrate encodes sound worse, rapid drums sound like someone sharted all over a mic.Movies and voice recordings sound more boomy but maybe I just need to get used to it.Gotta try multitasking later. What I especially liked about X2HR is how distinguishable each individual sound was, I could be playing a game with character voicelines, talking over voip, listening to some dj streamer talking over his music, and paying attention to people calling me irl from another room, all at the same time. inb4 adhd.Also stock pads suck, headphones are basically on-ear with gaps between pads and my head.
>>107102830Mediocre in stock form, but basically the gateway drug into modding with how well documented it is.
>>107104724You are unlikely to tell the difference between properly implemented codecs, even SBC is fine, unless the vendor purposefully fucked them up.Also for PC literally any BT transmitter would have worked as it is completely agnostic to the data it sends, you can send Morse code with it, assuming you let the software (not the dongle) do the encoding.
>>107105849>You are unlikely to tell the difference between properly implemented codecs, even SBC is fine, unless the vendor purposefully fucked them up.I figured I'd go full placebo since the BT DAC I got supported the fancy sounding codecs>Also for PC literally any BT transmitter would have worked as it is completely agnostic to the data it sends, you can send Morse code with it, assuming you let the software (not the dongle) do the encoding.I think I have the latter, when I connect it my PC assumes it's some USB speaker and the transmitter has a button to change the codec and stuff
>>107100467>>107100570you're baiting, right? checking asr's review shows that the fucking thing introduces so much distortion even on the 3rd and 4th order that the source material will probably become unrecognizable and no hf filter as en extra fuck you so you may blow your tweeters accidentally as well.are you the same breed of people that think zu audio method is the best speaker on the market?
>>107106851Once you realize audiophiles get good and bad backwards it makes perfect sense. Vinyl, R2R DACs, tube amps, meme drivers, wacky cabinets with dogshit directivity and absolutely no EQ. That's what being an audiophile is all about. The diametrical opposite of hifi.
>>107106851And zu isn't bad enough. That's what a proper audiophile speaker looks likehttps://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/magnepan-lrs-speaker-review.16068/
linoox users, can i select different EQs for different outputs and then create a shortcut to switch between outputs with easyeffects?
>>107107040>can i select different EQs for different outputsYes. There should be an option to autoload different presets depending on the output device. Should be in the pipewire tab. Not sure for pulseaudio.>and then create a shortcut to switch between outputs with easyeffects?I'm honestly not sure about this one.
>>107106906>>107106960either you or i got the meaning of audiophile completely wrong. as far as im concerned its a term used on someone who chases the purity of sound, but it got memed to hell because good equipment is expensive which led to the creation and selling of snake oil. but you cant seriously tell me with a straight face that that dac i mentioned in my previous post is actually good with how much it colors the sound. i havent tested it or heared it myself, but if the objective data looks like that then im not interested. have you used it yourself?the goal should be to get the reproduction as close to the source material as possible, from frequency response to its dynamics. you cant have that with coloration like distortion.also i do agree that most crap out there is bs but theres nothing wrong with vinyl and "wacky" cabinets, although some simple chamfering or a roundover around the corners will get the job done just as well.external dacs in general are obsolete and pointless in this day and age where anything will get the job done, and so are tube amps and in fact any amp that has a load dependancy or any kind of variable output impedance. don't know what you mean by meme drivers though. stuff like beryllium tweeters, supertweeters and such?
>>107107278Audiophiles chase the purity of sound then turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away of it. You need to know all the answers to score 0 on a test.
How many speakers is too many? Went off the deep end and got a full stack of ML speakers from all over their range. So i got 2 towers, 4 bookshelves, sub and center. Ran between 2 amps. Gives great surround sound in games and movies, but this is primarily a music system, where the surround is significantly less impactful.
>>107107387>How many speakers is too many?8
>>107090573Balanced Audio Technology VK-200 200 watt per channel solid state amplifier http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/amplifiers/balanced-audio-technology/vk-200/prd_115631_1583crx.aspxpowering Hales Revelation III 4 ohm Floor Standing Three-Way 10" woofer speakers https://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/118/index.htmlover Acoustic Zen Hologram II 12' speaker cables . http://www.stereolifemagazine.com/reviews/item/1025-acoustic-zen-matrix-reference-ii-hologram-iiAmp is powered via an Acoustic Zen Tsunami Plus power cord (Zero crystal copper) https://www.audioasylum.com/reviews/Cable/Acoustic-Zen/Tsunami/cables/44055.html out of a PS Audio Duet component level. AC cleaning and protection unit https://positive-feedback.com/Issue42/psaudio.htmwhich is fed by an Oyaide Tunami 1.5 meter cable https://www.vhaudio.com/tunami.html terminated (by me) with Oyaide P/C004 connectors Beryllium Copper plated with polished Platinum and Palladium https://www.vhaudio.com/oyaide-c-004.htmlplugged into an Oyaide R1 AC duplex https://www.vhaudio.com/oyaide-r1.html same metallurgy with an Oyaide wpc-z billet Aluminum and Carbon Fiber wall plate. https://www.vhaudio.com/oyaide-wpc-z.htmlSource=Resolution Audio Opus 21 CD Player with 24/96 Digital Input http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/resolution/opus21.html two piece unit with separate power supply connected with an Umbilical from Ridge Street Audio; Exousias 999999 pure silver with gold plated d-sub compact copper terminations.This is powered over an Acoustic Zen Krakatoa Power Cable (Silver+zero crystal Copper)2 meters.https://www.audioasylum.com/reviews/Cable/AcousticZen/Krakatoa/cables/14/143646.htmlIt is feeding the BAT VK-200 over Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II xlr Interconnects 1.5 meters.https://www.stereophile.com/cables/765/index.htmlcost new around $17,000paid around $7,000
The audiophile FEARS the double blind A/B test.
>>107107387I'll be real. 3 is too many. Not counting the subs. There's no use case for shit sounding from behind me and 3.0 is surprisingly underwhelming for stereo music.
>>107090573Trying to help a normie friend find a new set to replace his old headphones. His old pair were momentum 4s and he wants wireless to walk around the house with them on. Other related tech he has is an Arylic b50.
>>107111661Budget is $450 aud (~$291 usd)
what are the best, good looking, under 60 wired headphones i can get i dont give a FUCK about all this EQ autism.i just want a pair of headphones with good sound and noise cancellation to bring with me everywhere i go
>>107111899Noise cancelation is a premium slop feature.If you want to stay on budget use earphones with earmuffs over them then
>>107104724Do the OS and headphones support LDAC? You can transmit LDAC on any BT 5.0 chip.xgbpy
>>107112072>OSWindows 11 so not natively but there's a (paid) programs for that I think (Alternative A2DP Driver)>headphonesMy reciever does, yeah>BT 5.0The BT chip that comes with my PCIe WiFI card is only 4.2, I thought that was the limiting factor here, hence the looking around for BT dongles
>>107111661See >>107094373>His old pair were momentum 4sDid they break or what happened? Anything in particular he liked/disliked about them?>>107111899Ugreen Max5c
>>107094289QC Ultra V2One of the very best ANC performances, much more comfortable than nearly all other ANC headphones due to light clamping force, and fixed the muddy tuning of the first version.
>just got this captchaGUYS IM PANICKING NO NO NOOOOO
