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>buy toshiba hdd because /g/ says they're good quality
>4 years later (today) it just died and lost like 1tb of rare videos of cute asian girls feet in 4k i've been collecting for years
>meanwhile my almost 10 years old seagate still works flawlessly but i only use it to store random shit i don't care because /g/ says they're bad
i'm never using hdds ever again
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>>107091431
Newer HDDs (among other tech) simply suck, it isn't a brand issue. We are regressing on tech, it gets worse every year. Devices and peripherals you would expect to live for decades before now only last 2-5 years.
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did you try to ddrescue it, or was it some instant death?
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>>107091496
the folders didn't load and it was constantly clicking, the explorer froze and when i restarted the computer it didn't boot
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only the most expensive toshiba is said to be good , the ones with 20TB
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>anon doesn't back up his files
>complains when he loses data
Sucks but you brought it on yourself. Anyway statistical outliers will always exist, you can buy the best brand in the world and still get a dud
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It's not if the hard drive will fail anon, it's when. This is how retards learn that backups aren't optional
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>>107091488
The real issue is that the 3.5 inch form factor for HDDs has been around since 1982, and back then drives were storing about 10 or so megabytes.
Now we're cramming literally a million times more data onto platters the exact same size.
What do you think that's going to do to things like manufacturing tolerances? At the same time consumers have gotten used to the price per unit of storage going down, down, down.
Reliable hard drives are out there. It's just that old-school reliability has become something you have to pay extra for.

Also, OP is a degenerate that belongs on a cross.
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>>107091534
if you were on Windows, that could have been NTFS collapsing on the drive
it sounds exactly like what happened to my Seagate, and Windows retardedly attempted to write new partitions on that following reboot
if you have a separate linux system or can be bothered to prepare a liveusb with ddrescue, testdisk and another drive with at least 2x capacity, you may still be able to save most of it before it finally gives out
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>>107091431
4 years is a pathetic lifespan but you should have been backing up tbqh, both you and toshiba should wear dunce caps and sit in different corners
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>>107091631
>if you have a separate linux system or can be bothered to prepare a liveusb with ddrescue, testdisk and another drive with at least 2x capacity, you may still be able to save most of it before it finally gives out
gonna check it later, anon
thanks
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>>107091431
>rare/important data on a 4 year old drive with no backup
while 4 years is young, it's not "early death" young. hdd failure rates start to climb around the 3/4 year mark (if used constantly), it does take quite a bit longer to reach 50% likelyhood, but still
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>blablabla
just say you're too dumb to make a backup
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>>107091534
if it does /something/, then fire up a linux livecd and run ddrescue on it

i'm actually running ddrescue right now on a 16GB usb drive, it's really flaky, throwing tons of errors in dmesg and isn't stable enough to mount. ddrescue has been going for a few days now and it's rescued 81.81% of it so far, the image even currently is mountable and i can read a bunch of stuff from it
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>>107091534
>>107091761
oh and as hinted, be prepared for it to take a while, better to run it on something besides your main computer (my main os is linux so i'm doing it on my main computer)
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>>107091431
Only had two hard drives die on me
>A western digital 11 years)
>A Toshiba

My 4tb and 3tb seagates have been doing great however
One of them is even this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ST3000DM001
Had it over 11 years now
The 4 tb is 7 years old.


Take everything you read about hard drives online with a grain of salt, the other hard drive manufacturers employ paid shills for years to disparage Seagate so that you buy western digital and Toshiba short lifespan planned obsolescence hard drives that will force you to buy more hard drives (and buy extra hard drive because losing your info will make you want backup hard drives)
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>>107091534
>it was constantly clicking,
back in the day this happened to Seagate drives, the solution was to put it in the refrigerator. it won't fix it permanently but maybe enough to recover some data before you put it in the trash, if its already broken what have you got to lose?
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>>107091431
>lost like 1tb of rare videos of cute asian girls feet in 4k i've been collecting for years
I'm sincerely sorry for you loss, anon. But this >>107091572 . Please back up important stuff in at least a couple of places. Even the random useless shit I ave is usually copied into my desktop hdd and my external drive for no reason.
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I buy drives from Goodwill and run photorec on them to look for porn. I have two 1TB WD Blue 3.5s with 30,000 hours each and no SMART errors. I have a 1 TB Seagate 3.5 with only 36 hours that has no SMART errors but grinds and clicks. I have a 1 TB Seagate 3.5 that I bought new that has SMART errors. And I have a 1 TB Seagate 2.5, also bought new, that has no SMART errors on the drive but I had to rip it out of its USB enclosure to repair the filesystem because the enclosure corrupted it. Seagate was good in the early 00s but fuck them now.
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>he got memed into buying toshitba
sorry for your loss, even though it was more like a net gain losing something so fucking worthless as bugwomen. but now you know to buy WD next time.

>inb4 you get memed into buying shitgate too
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>>107091841
Well don't fucking leave us hanging, what porn have you found? Is your operation worth it?
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What Toshiba was it? The Enterprise grades are the ones to get.

Make sure you backup your asian girls feet 4K vids people
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>>107091431
u forgot to backup your vids
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>>107091899
Best drive had tax documents, personal letters and photos, gay nigger porn, and coursework and a certificate for a computer security and forensics class.
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>>107091707
since already-failing drives likely have limited time and/or power cycles left to live, you should really read up on the functions of ddrescue before any attempt though
the "plain" ddrescue command does 5 passes normally (I think forward-reverse-fw-rw-fw), but to get the most data with the least wear/time, most sites recommend the
--no-scrape
option for (I think 3) initial passes:
ddrescue --no-scrape [INPUT_DRIVE/PARTITION_PATH] [OUTPUT_IMG_PATH].img [OUTPUT_MAP_PATH].map
(.log is older terminology, but the same)
you might also have to monitor it, as mine constantly "gave up" before completing a pass, and would skip to the next and next passes (at obviously too high a read rate) before declaring "Finished" on the now-non-resumable log
if your drive is that damaged and constantly quits on you, ddrescue allows calmly pausing jobs with Ctrl+C and waiting for it to stop itself, so at certain points you can safely stop the job, copy the current .map/.log twice to something like "at100GB.map" & "at100GB_COPY.map", and resuming from either the original .map/.log or "at100GB".map/log, then overwriting them when it fucks up to resume before the fuckup point
you may also want to read up on
--idirect --unidirection --reverse --retry-passes=
options before starting anything
for example, if I were to redo trying to ddrescue my quitting drive again, I'd go through a single pass at a single direction, before then doing the same in reverse:
ddrescue --no-scrape --unidirection --retry-passes=1 /IN /OUT.img /OUT.map
ddrescue --no-scrape --unidirection --reverse --retry-passes=1 /IN /OUT.img /OUT.map

reverse passes also seem essential, as they're able to access shit forward can't
good luck
(pic is an example from https://www.tauceti.blog/posts/clone-failing-harddisk-partition-with-ddrescue/)
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>>107091431
>no backups or redundancy
retard
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>>107091582
There's also zero contextual information. OP might have had it powered up 24/7 for 4 years straight with services constantly performing IO on it while sitting in the back of a cabinet next to their desk with no ventilation, which he was constantly bumping with his feet while at the desk.
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>>107091431
well toshiba as most brands nowadays is just sticker, its all same shit
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>>107091431
Anon you should at least run some kind of raid if you aren't going to have backups on stuff you care about.
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>>107091431
stop watching feet, start reading the bible and go to the church my friend, it's better for than this sin.
Praise the lord and you will be happier.
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>>107092564
that book is mental illness in paper form
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>>107092979
You thinking men can be women is mental illness in physical form
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>>107093013
no, i don't want to join your cult
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>>107093109
You should, you will find inner peace
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>>107091431
>hdds
HUH????
You think that seagate does not make HDDs or ???????

>>107091534
>the folders didn't load and it was constantly clicking, the explorer froze and when i restarted the computer it didn't boot
>>107091431
>it just died and lost like 1tb of rare videos
AHAHA retard learned today that he needs to back up his data.

Are you so retarded that you can not buy a 1TB CLOWN_EMOJI
CLOWN_EMOJI
CLOWN_EMOJI
in 2025?

> asian girls feet in 4k i
And nothing of value was lost!

PS:
A FUCKEN FROG POSTER!
EVERY TIME!
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>>107093013
cutting your penis on the 8th day after birth is mental illness
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>>107093133
I did and turdstianity had nothing to do with it.
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>>107091431
I have two toshiba hdds and both shit the bed within a year.
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>>107093424
Okay, but the jewish doctor and my misinformed parents made that decision. They always want their cut.
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>>107092269
I have basic WD Red drives running 24/7 for years with constant IO because it's all torrents and they're all fine. Never had a failure in the 10 years I've been running this setup. Only phased out 2 drives because they were getting really old but they also didn't fail. And yes I am passing off anecdotal evidence as fact.
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hdds aren't bad overall, but you can't really rely on <brand> protecting your data

have RAID[Z]6 preferably with snapshots. have additional backups of everything that really matters.
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BTW no - SSD aren't actually safe either. they too are not "unreliable" - but completely reliable is something else. i had failures.



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