>News & Rumors
Something is happening to rdna 1/2 drivers
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: Not usually a significant improvement over a 7800X3D in gaming
-3060: Contrast pricing with 2070 (similar performance, 8gb) and 2080ti
-7700: Region dependent, at ~$250+ you'd likely better served elsewhere
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, buy only if $350 is the absolute max budget and you can't consider used
-9070: Only worth considering if cheaper than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

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>>107084799

first

hate cases that put the front ports on the side

>>107092939
Since i have mine in the ground below me its the first thing i check, i need the front ports on top
That has stopped me from getting specific cases in the past

>>107092939
>>107092944
what do you plug into the front ports?
I literally never used them my entire life in my old build over a decade ago

>>107092944
I made that mistake, I didn't check like a moron and cancelled the order

https://www.techpowerup.com/342575/adeia-initiates-patent-infringement-litigation-against-amd

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>107092963
currently just the gamepad and the phone charger
you bring up a good point that at this point i dont use them enough to worry about it on an hypothetical new case
Not like back in the day when using usb sticks was more common

>>107092623
B850 is quite a lot more in Romania

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I want to build a system with 5080 but by far cheapest option on my market is gigabyte SFF version. Im expecting the smaller cooler to perform worse than full size, but how much worse? I intend to undervolt it anyway so that should help with temps.

Or just say fuck it and get a good aib of 5070ti?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXoUsdSAnA

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I should have lived like a poorfag and bought a 5090 instead of goyslop desu
but I can't stop spending money send help
my plan to beat this is just to get a job but nobody wants to hire me
I'm stuck in scarcity poverty mode hell
I need OUT
I need a 5090
I need a 9800x3d
I need a 83" G5
HELP!

>>107093008
You can get reasonable b850 for like 160-180 eurodollars in EUSSR.

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RGB or not-RGB.

buy 5070ti right now or wait for the next models?

>>107093089
I think you should wait. Maybe prices will increase like ram and then I can laugh when you're crying about why you waited to buy something that will only be marginally better than the current roster. PLEASE WAIT.

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>>107093089
waiting for Black Friday is max you can wait this year.

>>107093064
5080 and 5070ti run cold as fuck so small cooler won't matter
those xbox huge 4 slot coolers are absurd overkill for aibs to charge more
only the 5090 needs actual cooling

>>107093089
next models are still 7-8 months out and any anon telling you any different are just lying to you
do what info what you will

>>107093088
subdued all same color rgb that gives a bit of light inside the case is based
disco rgb cycling through colors and patterns with every element in the case including rgb is cringe

>Buy open box Liquid Freezer III 280 for less than $55 on eBay.
>The cooler is brand new
>It works really well
>Notice high pitch noise, adjust fans and pump RPM on BIOS
>It’s the pump
>Need to lower pump RPM all the way down to 45% to dampen the noise
Is it over? I might just say fuck it and run it near max RPM.

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>>107093174
i'm unironically thinking about corsair ihub...

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>>107093174
Miss the days of single colored fans.
Too expensive nowadays when you can get known ok-ish RGB fans for cheaper. Hate the extra wiring tho

>>107093089
with these broken drivers hell no

>>107093260
There is nothing else, the 9070xt seems like a piece of shit, friend has one and crashes all the time on a specific game I play and on another game is performs 30% less than the 5070ti for absolutely no reason.

>>107093214
Running the pump at sub 80% is a no-no

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I am trashing 5 of my company's old (still somewhat new) routers. Is pressing the factory reset button on each of them enough or is there anything leftover like when you "delete" something on a HDD or other storage entity that you leave it only open for overwriting?

I didn't read through the last thread, did nico poster give up yet?

>>107093320
Factory reset should be enough

>>107093089
Buy on black Friday, 5070ti super is just more memory anyways

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I panic bought DDR5 RAM.

>>107093214
pump at around 50% is normal, always set it to the highest inaudible rpm possible which should be 40 to 60%
the difference between low rpm and max is almost none in real temp differences anyways, the rad size and fans are the ones actually making the actual difference
you just don't want pump to have constantly rpm changes

>>107093367
>after the increase

how long until ram prices go down?

>>107093507
anon....

>>107093507
hard to tell, but since this was a one time order from openai, I'd guess they're probably back to normal again in half a year or so. ram prices are the ones that fluctuate the most, but the past few weeks have been extreme

>>107093450
No I found a pair of sticks on some walmart tier european retailer who was selling it at the old prices.

>>107093287
Find that hard to believe. 5070ti drivers are shit compared to 9070xt today.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

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>>107093507
Down? Why would they stop going up? You're expecting too much if a 50% increase is something to complain about? 100% more is still a steal in this market. 172% is the MINIMUM you should possibly expect until AGI is achieved. You better buy now, when orders open up again I can't see how any company could even afford to sell this gold dust at anything less than 300% todays pricing.

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Is it normal for VESA mounts or stands to come with rounded corners on the mounting plate as opposed to sharp rectangular corners? I'd need to take a saw and shear off those rounded corners to get it to fit onto my monitor.

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is a cm ncore 100 max too bad for a high-end gaming setup overall? it comes with a 120mm aio and i have concerns about if it can handle a 7800x3d.

>>107093650
Almost all mounts are shit and most require some DIY if you aren't just using the same manufacturers gear on everything. The generic one size fits all have their own meme tolerances despite claims they are universal.

You will now HAVE to build an intel machine, it's only ddr5 ram still out there.

been messing around with the tuning of my 9070xt and so far its not crashing and the hotspot and core temps are good, but the vram temps do get up to 86 and thats with the fans going pretty crazy
how can i measure for certain games if the frequency i set for the vrams is actually needed or not? its at 2600mhz with fast timing at the moment

>12V-2x6 connectors burning up
>CPUs being fried by motherboards
>insanely high gpu power draw
what a time to build a new pc

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-confirms-security-vulnerability-on-zen-5-based-cpus-that-generates-potentially-predictable-keys-rdseed-fix-coming-through-an-agesa-firmware-update-for-desktop-chips

>HE BUYED BOUGHTED POOZEN5 WITH KNOWN UNFIXABLE HARDWARE BUGS

>>107093348
ty

>>107093760
fast timings make it heat up more. if you turn it off more power can go to the core or it soaks the heatsink less from the memory.

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Friend mentions that he might pick a new card for christmas and i can have his 6800xt which is a big upgrade over my 3060
Just checked on pcpp and the meme case i bought cause it was on sale when i bought some upgrades and moved cases is not big enough and can't fit his card

>>107093796
you forgot
>ram price increased by 100% within 3 months.

>>107093811
excuse me, help me out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo

>HE BUYED BOUGHTED POODNA2 NO DRIVERS

still buying AMD and boycotting Intel.

>>107093870
its only 19mm longer and 8mm over the maximum of the cage
worst case scenario imma getting ma mallet

https://videocardz.com/newz/aoc-to-launch-agon-gaming-monitor-with-1000hz-fhd-mode-and-27-inch-5k-165hz

>27-inch QHD 500 Hz / FHD 1000 Hz dual-mode

>27-inch QHD 360 Hz, PULSAR technology, “1000 Hz effect”

>27-inch QHD 420 Hz with circular polarization

I will get the one with the least issues.

>>107093940
>rumors
I've seen monitors that got announced but never release.

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pentium bros, i think it might be over for us...

>>107094091
Many of these companies only release certain models for certain countries, not even continent.

>>107094208
In this specific case it was a 27" miniLED panel with 300hz. Three companies announced a monitor with it but not one released. I think they switched to OLED instead. I havent heard anything of the nvidia pulsar monitors anymore as well.

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I want to upgrade from a 6700xt to a 9070, but i heard that low RAM can affect your performance
question is, should I buy two more dimms or a new RAM kit altogether

Besides the difference in size. And having wifi. Is there really any major difference in motherboards? I'm planning on upgrading to AM5 and getting a new CPU for 4k 120 gaming.

>>107094368
It's not going to be a big deal for now

>>107094372
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM5#Chipsets
Also vrm

>>107093661
>120mm aio
You could make it work with a 7800X3D if you set a 65W power limit and a stable undervolt.
In general, these 120mm AIOs are memes. I recommend getting at least a 280mm AIO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzYI8j2BuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDB3ZBHh5Rk

>>107093881
Razer Deathadder V3 is decent if you buy it at a discount (under $40).
It has on-board memory, so you can set whatever profile through the app and delete the Synapse crap.

Other recommendations in the past.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106823974/#106824438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQT15GGjqI

how do i install intake and exhaust fans? do i buy half my fans as reversed?

>>107094517
They usually have arrows that show the direction of airflow. The side with the arm is the exhaust side.

>>107094368
You're cpu limited not gpu limited, judging by the 2018 ram

>>107094517
Reverse fans are only for certain companies. Like Lian Li. Noctua or Arctic don't give a fuck about such things.

i want ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro, but with cooler LCD or pump

>>107094159
>31ms frametime in an fps game
yikes
10-16 is already bordering on unplayable

>>107093881
mad dog gm715k if you want ultralights

>>107094557
5800x3D and I game in 4k/vr
will not see too much of an improvement with just an 9070

>>107094970
That should be ok. You would have a problem with one of those skylake+++ chips.

Are two 120mm fans enough to cool a Ryzen 3700X/3060 Ti without throttling or getting noisy?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YWfJh7
I tried building a pc based on OP resources, Have I made blatant mistakes (overpriced brand or poor cpu/gpu/ram balance)?

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Certified hw retardo is willing to know why CPU is hitting different all core clocks during different workloads

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here's your silverstone flp02 retard, but you don't have to pay 200 euro

AMDSteve is such a retarded AMDrone

The video where AMD is rightfully called out for being utter shit Monitors guy has to release
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsjjFr9mB7w

AMD releases PR lawyer written damage control statement and AMDSteve is there to suck AMD off again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PQ7G7l4KAk

Meanwhile anyone with a brain can see AMD is just talking non-committal crap no different to their original statement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo

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>>107095199
seems a bit pricey but has free delivery

>>107094372
Besides the different chipsets, different models can also have a marginal impact on the performance of your whole system depending on the exact layout. You'll have to check benchmarks to find out. Other lesser known points to look out for are coil whine and on-board audio interference.

>>107095155
Not bad. You could save some money here and there like getting less fashionable nvme or case

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>>107095242
alternatively just buy an hp z200 workstation and paint it lel

>>107095221
AMD is lying. I repeat, they did the same in 2021 when they abandoned my R9 Fury. They announced support is dropping after 6 years (at the height of pandemic GPU prices and as Win 11 was rising, for which they would not provide drivers). There was an uproar, just like now. AMD quickly dove into the standard toolbox of corporate lies. There was a misunderstanding, we will surely support, bla bla bla. R9 never received Win 11 drivers. What they did was to release a few more "legacy" drivers for about a year, to handle the PR issue. That's all. That's what they'll do again. Handle the PR issue until it gets cold, then continue with their initial plan. It's corporate dark bible 101. Don't trust them. You've already received all the warnings you should ever need.

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>AMD dropping support for RDNA 1 and 2
>AMD announcing new GPU architecture for the future thus declaring their current GPU line abandonware
>AMD announcing new CPU with extra 3D cache for next year
>intel and Nvidia becoming friends and building new great things together
>Intel announcing new CPU architecture and platform for next year
>Nvidia Super series releasing next fall
>ram prices skyrocketing
>ssd prices skyrocketing
>new hardware on Linux being still bad
There has never been a better time than this for waiting to build a new desktop PC. I'm glad I haven't pulled the trigger for new hardware yet. I think I'll be enjoying my Pascal GPU, my i5-6500 and my 8GB of RAM till next spring or summer when I'll be able to buy good-value hardware.

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>his pc case doesn't let him unscrew the front i/o panel and upgrade it
NGMI

oh good the waitfags are back
GTX FOREVER BABYYYYYY

>>107095276
You and I both know you will never buy new hardware

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>>107095290
>only 2 USB type A
>no USB type C
I understand why you'd want to upgrade. Good luck with the cutouts though

>>107095253
I'm a bit limited in case choice due to wanting an odd slot but I'll look for a better nvme

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>>107095155
consider a
9600x (+17$)
phantom spirit (+10$)
6000/30cl ram (about the same price model pending)
If you can buy from newegg the psu i marked for 70$ is a steal

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKGWHW

If you are happy with the case those would be my only touches. Other than obviously save more money and buy a better card, but money is what it is.

Let me give you a rikishi. This is Wakatakakage, he had a rough last tournament in September when he botched his bid to get promoted to ozeki, lets see how he does in November. Also Katsunori zeki can be seen in the corner of the image with a pensive visage.

Cheers anon.

>>107095352
it's just a random demonstration photo

>>107095158
throttling and clock stretching?

>>107095155
At $380 you might as well just step up to a 5060ti

Is the whole “AMD is better than Nvidia for Linux” advice outdated? It just seems that the only downside is installing proprietary drivers but after the initial setup it should perform the same no?
In all cases it’s too late my 5070ti is already arriving soon and I’m just trying to justify it.

>>107095443
there are 3 different drivers to choose from I think you'll be fine
older cards are problematic not 3000+

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>>107095221
>>107095261
Two choices in this world
suck the AMDick and be a drone or accept reality and buy a Fiftyninety

pc cases seem like a (small, cheap, pretty) pick two scenario

the fractal minipop silent I have is "cheap" an pretty, but it's still darn big.

Any recommendations? I have tower fan...

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>>107095276
Every day you lose not playing games at the tippity toppest tier of performance is time wasted not enjoying life at it's outmost, time you will never get back, time that could have been maximized and enjoyed to a higher level than you are at now
this fact alone should cause panic and anxiety in you
other people are living that exact experience right NOW, it's being gatekept from you, for being poor
there has never been a WORSE time not being a tippity top 10k command center pc user

>>107095384
I'm a euro so some of these changes are not as beneficial but the psu change does look good
also thanks for the rikishi

What are the new on the next gen zen cpu? How long until they are out?
I've got a 5800x (non 3d). Mostly playing games on it and some amateur gamedev work.
Paradox games, especially Vic3 have been a bit sluggish, with the EU5 coming out I'm wondering if I should upgrade during the enxt black friday.

>>107095602
Probably about 1 - 1.5 years out.
If you wanted to upgrade before then the time to do so was last month

Why do they need to produce these gay ass motherboards with angled USB and SATA headers instead of pointing directly upwards

>>107095221
At this point AMD Steve is either contractually bound not to say anything bad about amd or the most deranged amdrone hypocrite ever.
I have no other explanation for his behavior.

cheapest cases with 140mm fan support? not afraid to go used

>>107095221
AMD clearly committed in their blogpost to continuing new game support for RDNA 1 and 2 though. Shut your whore fucking nvidiot nigger mouth.

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>>107095682
Because
>Muh aesthetics and cable management
It could be worse, angled 24pin has to be so much fun in a small case.

>>107095794
sad evga now only sells fucking capture cards

thoughts on getting cl30 instead of 36? I mainly play singleplayer

>>107095794
>cable management
Shit ends up more difficult to access and package than a 2003 McLaren F1 car
>muh aesthetics
Of course, how can I forget the tempered glass and fishtank cases forcing that
Completely ignoring the fact that half of the time you have a side panel closed and it just makes accessing everything worse

With old cases you'd get sturdy build quality, a bright interior, and everything accessible with only ONE side panel to take off
Now it's an autistic origami puzzle

>>107095584
sorry but since you posted an USA pcpp list i assumed
Where are you? i can give it another runover with your country on mind

>>107095848
Main reason to get C30 over C36 was to guarantee Hynix modules for better stability (and OC headroom if you're in to that). The performance difference is minimal but it was like $5 extra so a good bet. Now that RAM prices have gone crazy there might be some real savings to be had so maybe not so bad.

>>107095860
here's the current list with country code
https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/g82tMC

>>107095937
you do not need a 4TB HDD

what's the most you'd pay to have you're pc built by a pro? I want to try to build it myself but I know I'll fuck up somehow, so I don't think it's worth trying.

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>>107095855
I wish we could simply move past ATX all together.
It doesn't make sense with how huge and power hungry GPUs are.

>>107095974
Its not that hard, even easier if you have internet access and a screen so you can keep checking shit on the internet
That said i can understand being nervous about it and dreading it
I have been quoted 95€ on a nearby store for building and installing w11 if i delivered the parts (north of spain), and i know a friend was quoted 140€ for a similar service on Austria
So is not whats the most you'd pay but more whats available to you.
Again... get a friend and a set of screwdrivers, watch some videos, read the manuals and just do it yourself, you will learn a fuck ton too, even if your cable management wont be that neat

will nova lake be a flop or a W?

>>107096016
that's good advice anon, I always wanted to get into pc building anyways, might as well be now. Think I'll watch some videos.

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>>107095937
Consider a phantom spirit (+25€) it is simply a better cooler and basically the standard for air coolers, that said the 9600x is not the hottest chip
i probably would bite the bullet and pay the extra 30€ of getting CL30 just for peace of mind
The psu you picked is not modular, not even semi, pick a different one, you will be glad you did
So sorry i costed you like 70€ with this post
The rest seems ok, the 4tb hdd seems suspicious but sometimes an anon needs to store 4tb of dolphin porn

Wakatakakage and his son

>>107096069
if they keep slamming the wattage for more "gains" then it's a L

Is it worth waiting for black friday deals if there's a significant chance the gpu you want will get snatched up in seconds? Also, what are the odds nvme ssd's and ram even go on sale this black friday?

>>107096113
Even easier once you decide your case and your mobo because i guarantee you there is some youtube video of somebody building a pc from scratch on your case (as long as it is a decently popular one); and another video of somebody building a pc with your mobo.
Read the manuals, and then post here if any doubt arises during the build with a picture.
Some anon did his first build couple days ago, maybe 5 or so threads ago, he posted here some questions but he seemed to work out the answers before people replied cause..... its not that hard and most of the shit is on the manual.
Also try to recruit an extra pair of hands, hopefully somebody that knows a little about computers even if he is as lost as you building but understand the assignment. Having an extra pair of hands to hold components in position as you turn the screws or to read the manual while you figure a part its priceless help.

>>107096153
prices are only going up

>>107095680
kek maybe I understand what you're saying, but probably not

why won't PC case manufactures not release small MATX cases for another 1.5 years?

>>107096153
ram? 0 chance, some nvmes will get some discounts tho probably not popular ones
I dont expect gpus to get massive discounts either
Im assuming monitors and projectors will get some heavy discount on the shitty stuff that hasn't sold, peripherals, psu, coolers, mobos
But the main shit, cpu gpu ram it will get just cursory discounts

Which card you looking for that you expect it to be so quickly snatched?

>>107096153
I've never in my life seen black friday gpu deals unless it's old models nobody wants like the 5060

>>107096186
i think he meant that the new am5 chips are 1 to 1.5 years out, which seems sensible
nobody talked about cases
did you reply to the wrong anon?

how to stress test and stability test a new build PC properly

>>107096261
You asked this already

>>107096189
either 9070 xt or 5070 ti. I could go for the 5080 but I'd have to hold off on getting the rest of the parts till next month. Thanks for the advice, I'll probably get some ram and the gpu tomorrow

I still don't understand the packaging for the 5090 FE

why did they do it?

>>107096119
thanks again
after looking, the fan and ram upgrade seem worth the price
modular psu seems not important in my mind since I would leave the case below my desk but I'll trust you
4tb is because I have three boxes full of CDs to rip

>>107096364
to prove that they could
and to prototype the design for the 6000 pro

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>bought a used HAF 932 Advanced for $25 after searching for a one-size fits all case to use for the next decade
>intend to paint it beige/white and cover up the angular gamer shroud stuff to make it boxier and fill it up with my 5.25/3.5 front drives and 5 hard drives
YOLO
I REGRET NOTHINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
(i hope it arrives in one piece and that I can find replacement fans and hdd sleds)

how would you build a 5070ti gaming rig if you only had 1600$ and the card alone costs 850$?

>>107095729
Doesn't matter, rdna1/2/3 have and will continue to suck ass outside of the flagships at 1080p or something.

>>107096401
Still got my HAF cases.
CM got it right with bigass front fans and bigass side fans

>>107096376
At the very least consider getting a semi modular psu
While yes once set up the psu will be out of sight is not (only) about the aesthetics. Modular psus are so much easier to work with while building and well a tidier case means dbetter airflow.

>>107096416
Midrange processor, used mobo, chink case, slower ram (it's not usually going to make that much of a difference anyways), small ssd, etc
Doesn't sound like a difficult target, you just have to drop some "luxuries"

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>>107096416
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4gRLMC
cheapest b850, 2tb nvme, 16x2 6000/30CL, 750 gold full modular psu. 9600x, cooler, and one of my favorite cases.
Do you want a rikishi with the build? This is Wakanohana Kanjii, the 45th Yokozuna of the sport; nicknamed "The devil of the dohyo"

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>>107096519
I just hope that the redditors aren't right with their "uhh actually 140mm is better than 200 and 230mm because of higher static pressure and are actually quieter" and that I can actually non-destructively modify the case to look good in beige or white, kind of like those old school AT form factor Amiga cases.
>9000 microseconds in mspaint pic related
I've been wanting a full tower for years just so I can put all my disks and drives in one place and forget about it even if I don't keep them plugged in, and have it be nice and quiet as it stands on my floor somewhere near the desk or on top of it.

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As someone getting back into pc gaming after years and got a prebuilt with a 7700xt, how is fsr3 this bad in stellar blade? Like this looks like a bug but it's actual standard performance in the game. Do so little people use amd they just don't care? If using optiscaler xess wasn't a thing I would've been returned or sold my gpu for an nvidia one as no other option worked. Is it the devs fault or amd?
>https://www.reddit.com/r/stellarblade/comments/1lj2fib/comment/mzi6wev/
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3499475915

>>107096678
>Like this looks like a bug
thats just because she is asian
badumm tss

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>>107096654
>slightly better shaded overlay to demonstrate my diy mod idea probably

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>>107096678
With optiscaler xess on

>>107096678
>how is fsr3 this bad in stellar blade
FSR3 has never been good so I'm not sure what you were expecting

I trust you guys with informed opinions. What headset should I get?

>>107096807
cheapest well reviewed wireless

>>107096807
get one of those cheap ones from a random brand that you've never head of
$5-20

>>107096519
>56cm tall and 56cm long
HAF more like "huge as fuck"

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>>107096768
In comparison videos between amd and nvdia I have never seen something look this bad as in this game. Like actually glitchy as opposed less detailed when zoomed in. Last gpu I had was a 1050ti in 2021 for reference. Are there other games where it's this bad?
>https://www.reddit.com/r/stellarblade/comments/1l9d750/what_causes_the_hair_to_look_jaggy_like_this_pc/

>>107096678
>>107096696
both images look terrible.
its a ps5 game for starters. it was made for unreals TAAU in mind as they dont have dlss or xess or even fsr4.

>>107096843
>>107096850
even says it in your own link:
>I noticed that for some reason on my 7900xt, TAA had less hair shimmering issues than with any FSR enabled.
because the game is made for TAAU in mind.
like how FFXIV is made for FXAA/SMAA in mind and using any sort of DLSS/FSR/XESS results in ghosting.

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>>107096865
>>107096843
Devs have to make an actual effort to support upscalers otherwise its worse quality than native TAA.

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>>107096902
reminder that nicotroon has been posting this " dlss4.webm" since before DLSS4 was even released

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odds that this can bite you in the ass?

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>>107096929

>>107096938
if it just means you need to offset the fan, not much
if it means the cooler literally will not fit when ram is in because the motherboard is totally built around AIO pumps, a lot

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>>107096929
It's one of the best examples of DLSS sucking because its AI trained on hyper realistic UNREAL ENGINE garbage instead of stylistic anime.

>>107093507
Could be 6 months or 2 years
>>107096364
The design is sound but they really should have kept it at 3 or 4 slots thick and have it utterly destroy aibs in cooling

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which one /g/?

>>107097079
two questionable brands
why does one say SFF
why is one tax free that can't be possible.

>>107097115
SFF = 2 slot card
the "epic" card is 3 slots

>>107097115
The Zotac 5070ti is actually 2 slot
well, 2.5 slot
and as long as a boat

>>107097079
I have the pny and can vouch for it

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>my trusty phone of last 5 years has totally shit itself to death
WHY FUCKING NOW
I WANTED TO BUILD MY PC THIS MONTH AHHHHHHHHHH
I WAITED ALL YEAR FOR BLACK FRIDAY SALES NOW THIS SHIT
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH

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>me when I not only fell for the AMD meme, but also lose control of the thread and am forced to drop my preferred persona because I made my level of mentally illness too obvious

>>107096807
Bose

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What open air case should I buy? I don't care about the looks.
First one; I can orient it horizontally and vertically, I can also stack them so I don't need to make shelves. It costs $90.
Second one; smaller and cheaper, only costs $30. If I want to stack them I need to build a shelf.

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>>107097302
hanging from ceiling

>>107096401
it looks kinda fuck ugly not gonna lie
if you wanted a beige pc you should have bought something minimalist with straight lines that is also compact and space efficient

>>107095539
>>107096208
kek yes

>>107095539
>(small, cheap, pretty)

I like the Phanteks XT M3 but even that is still pretty big. ITX ones are all pretty expensive like everything ITX.
What about the Deepcool CH260? OP case recommendations aren't bad.
There's also the Jonsbo D32 Pro. NR200 can still work well.

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>>107096401
Man, I wish CM had cases with more 5.25 bays. Your case can fit 10 HDD if you wanted to.
The CM Trooper and Stryker are my white wale for PC cases. So hard to find, and when I do find one it's super expensive. Usually $400CAD with an extra $200CAD shipping.

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>>107096865
That guy on reddit is wrong, or at least different from most. Just took this screen recording. Literally everything but xess looks buggy while screenshots online from dlss and fsr4 look good. Not like FFXIV where it's all bad.

>>107097079
PNY has better cooling but their fans have a tendency to rattle

>>107097550
optiscaler says you're running the game at 1506x848. thats worse than 900p on xbox series s. anything is gonna look bad when its worse than xbox.

>>107093320

if network share storage router return to factory settings might not clear storage only router settings

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>>107097567
The resolution doesn't matter, talking about the horrid shimmering on hair regardless.

>>107097302
Okay, I decided to just buy the fist PC. Found some on some chink website that sells them for $60.

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>>107097430
I already own a Force 500 and almost owned an Elite 370/338, honestly CM made my favorite cases from the late 2000's to 2010's onwards so I knew that I just couldn't pass on impulse buying the HAF 932 Advanced, even if I was looking for something to repaint as a beige box to blend in my cozy regal looking room, even if the pictures suggest it is pretty beat up.

Lol, can't believe I'm somehow having buyers remorse already over a find like this, this was gonna be a money sink regardless. Guess I'm just conflicted over whether I should keep it in its original state or whether I go ham with some primer, beige the outside, and silver the insides, and try to find some caddies and sleds without spending too many dollars.

I suppose I could try to make it more beige boxy by just finding some wood sheets or plastic plates, cutting them, and gluing them on somehow Hate the angled slopes. The non-flat side panels I guess I'll just have to live with. So I might still buy a period-accurate beige box or something new and even cheaper (10-20$) and repaint it as my main.

>>107097620
>>107096902
>>107096944

>>107097845
Do you want to see it? If so then repainting it is a good idea. I personally hate ALL PC cases looks now so I threw them inside some Ikea Alex drawers with cut out holes for intake and exhaust fans.
$25 isn't that much, at most you spent an extra $10 more which is basically nothing.

>>107097900
>I personally hate ALL PC cases looks now so I threw them inside some Ikea Alex drawers with cut out holes for intake and exhaust fans.
Are you trying to create your own personal hell or something? That's going to be hot as hell.

how important is speed for current and coming games? Do they even make use of the top speeds? I see quite a difference for several m.2 ssd. I would be using the drive exclusively to store games so if it isn't too important I guess I can save a few bucks by not getting the bestest and fastest.

>>107097960
>Ikea Alex drawers with cut out holes for intake and exhaust fans
retard
Ambient temperature in my room is 24C. Inside the box is only 26C.

>>107097961
for games it means nothing

>>107097960
I mean he did cut fan holes for them should be fine

>>107097961
It means nothing usually.
Faster write speeds means faster saving but games already have seamless auto saving so you won't even notice it.
Faster write speeds makes loading faster. And you will never notice it unless you actually test it. A mid range NVMe vs the top end NVMe has a difference of 1 seconds loading at most. You literally will never notice it.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2116-storage-speed-game-loading/

>>107097961
It doesn't mean much. 7gb/s is plenty for loading optimized assets and for unoptimized games, all nand based SSDs are basically the same in random read operations regardless of pcie generation

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The penthouse on the top of this thing feels kind of eccentric but interesting nonetheless. I look forward to examining this case in person and see if I can salvage it.

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>>107097960
>That's going to be hot as hell.
still not as hot as old school cases were with their 80mm fan holes if they were lucky, cutting out fan mounts in those is a real pain

>>107096519
>bigass side fans
I don't understand why case makers moved away from this, it seems like such an obvious thing if you want bays at the front but still want space efficiency
Unless they did it because they stopped using 5.25 and 3.5 front bays

i have 16gb ddr4 and i've ben planning to upgrade to 32gb for a while. i was gonna wait for black friday but the price increse is getting me worried
should i get 16gb ddr5 and bite the price or go for another 16gb ddr4

>>107097321
I thought the wd purple hanging at an odd angle was the most uncomfortable thing about this image until I saw the flex on that motherboard

>>107098367
A /g/ classic. Someone tried to copy him and ripped a hole in his ceiling lmao

>>107097900
>I personally hate ALL PC cases looks now
you can still buy a featureless black tower in various flavors from fractal design
not everything is glass panel RGB shit

I really wish that pop mini silent held more drives
I'd been eyeing that case for a bedroom server build

>>107098377
>Someone tried to copy him and ripped a hole in his ceiling lmao
I didn't know the ceilings were made of pure drywall in addition to the walls in the US unless he had rotting wooden boards behind the ceiling plaster and paint

which one would you guys recommend, the Lian Li 217, Fractal North, or Antex Flux Pro?

Leaning towards the Lian Li 217 because I want to keep my pc on my desk

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>>107095401
fair
>>107095413
>throttling
likely not unless TDP is maxed but temps aren't
>clock stretching
gotta look this one up, actually

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Are there any good aftermarket front panel I/O replacements that slot into 5.25" bays that I can still buy? It looks like (as is thankfully the case with most of these CM cases) you can easily dismantle the weird locomotive penthouse on the HAF 932, at least on the non-Advanced model. Same with those weird angular front clips, so thank god. No de-riveting required hopefully.

It's funny, cause I probably intend to give my Advanced the same look as the regular HAF 932 with a grey or metallic interior again.

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>>107098466
Looks like it may not be optimal to remove the front bezels or whatever that greebling is on the front panel, they do seem to hold a practical function of keeping the drive sleds and fan cover in place. No matter hopefully, I might be able to just glue on some vinyl or pvc plastic plates and saw them so that it covers up that skeletal frame and turns it into a nice 90 degree corner... though I might spend more money on PVC plates than on the entire case at that point so lol.

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>>107098492
Maybe I should also buy some foam like on my old Zalman Z3 and put it in there as a dust filter while I'm at it.

>>107098439
If it's on the desk the 217, there's literally no reason to pay more.

If the 217 had top IO it would be the perfect case

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>>107092900
Anons... I want to build inside of it... ouuuuuuuhhhh.... so tight.... so small.... ouuuuhuhhhh

>>107098554
xbox 360 if mesh and btx

>>107098571
BTX?

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>>107098573
the superior form factor and successor to ATX that never took off sadly
you can still buy some new old stock cases with this form factor somehow

>>107098584
I remember building inside one of these. Made a (for it's time) sleeper, with some ITX GTX 970 and an i7 3770. Drilled through the bottom to mount the HDDs

>>107098340
If you have a ddr4 system, you can only use ddr4
Ddr5 requires a motherboard and CPU upgrade

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>>107098593
Intel made it in response to the Pentium 4 disaster to optimize for better thermals, but also is more space efficient, AND more structurally sound than ATX which this was supposed to be an evolution of
The only problem was that it probably came a few years too early because we could be sorely using this right now

>>107098340
If your processor isn't that terrible I would just pop some more ram in, ddr4 pricing isn't too terrible last I checked and you might as well wait for new sockets before a platform upgrade.
>>107098453
>TDP is maxed
what processor even?

>>107098466
Those holes on the top are pretty big, would it be better to tape them up or glue some meshes or rubber grommets or weld an extra piece of sheet steel on top?
At this point instead of gluing plastic panels together you might just commission a 3d print of a front panel

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>building a jerry can pc
imagine NOT having smooth flat side panels

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https://www.techpowerup.com/342543/more-evidence-for-avx10-and-apx-support-in-intel-nova-lake-emerge
https://x.com/InstLatX64/status/1984934040634286344
>A few weeks ago, it was believed that Nova Lake wouldn't include any of Intel's advanced x86 extensions. The latest GCC compiler patch indicated that the initial Nova Lake enablement does not incorporate AVX10, AMX, or APX. This suggested that support for these new x86 instructions might be absent from the next-generation CPU.

>Initially, Intel chose to disable AVX-512 for the "Alder Lake" and "Raptor Lake" client-oriented CPU lineups, meaning that only server-grade Xeon CPUs benefited from the accelerated 512-bit data paths. With the release of NASM 3.0 and its subsequent 3.1 update, we are once again optimistic that Nova Lake will bring 512-bit acceleration to its client CPUs.

>For reference, AMD introduced full AVX-512 support with its "Zen 5" cores across its product range, providing a performance boost in optimized applications for both desktop and server CPUs. This marked the first time AMD did not emulate 512-bit AVX, which previously required splitting 512-bit data into two 256-bit units to be processed over two cycles. If Intel reintroduces full AVX-512 acceleration in its client SoCs, it will mark the first time both companies offer 512-bit vector acceleration in their consumer CPUs simultaneously.
AVX-512 support for Nova Lake is back on the menu, boys!

>>107098813
every so often intel introduces an instruction that is not very useful, but is very difficult for AMD to copy.

>>107098764
Maybe I can find someone locally to fabricate a new steel or aluminum side panel for this case and make it flat.

>>107098813
>AVX10, AMX, or APX
Sounds gay. I'd rather have plain old avx512

If L3 cache has such a big effect on performance, why aren't we seeing AMD also increase L1 or L2 cache? Intel is actually winning there.

>9700X
32KB per-core L1 instruction cache
48KB per-core L1 data cache
1MB per-core L2 cache
32MB shared L3 cache

>9800X3D
32KB per-core L1 instruction cache
48KB per-core L1 data cache
1MB per-core L2 cache
96MB shared L3 cache

>Intel Ultra 5 245K
64KB per-core L1 instruction cache
48KB per-core L1 data cache
3MB per-core L2 cache
24MB shared L3 cache

Budget Intel has double the L1 instruction cache and triple the L2, but lacks L3. If they found a way to match the L3, would the increased L1 and L2 give any noticeable gains in anything?

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Friendly reminder I'm very happy with my m27p6 purchase!

How weird would it be to use a 1440p monitor as my second monitor? Will things such as movies and browse scale well?

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how are the drivers for the intel battlemage cards? my brother is running win10 and cant upgrade to 11, i might push him towards mint or something eventually once thats an issue, but right now hes using an rx 480 and amd decided thats not okay and fucked his drivers recently. im gonna buy him a new gpu, but im not gonna spend a lot and i dont want it to be unusable once windows 10 dies.

>>107099399
?
People use 1440p monitors all the time. The fuck kind of question is this?

>>107092900
Got a R7 5800X paired with a RTX 4060, is upgrading to a RX 9060XT 16GB worth it? I want to move away from Nvidia

>>107099447
fuck it, found a 3070 ti for $275. assuming it runs, ill just snipe that.

>>107099399
1080p looks like ass on 1440p screens.
Doesn't scale well because it isn't scaled by an integer. It will never look crisp or in focus.

Anyone telling you it looks good is a blind retard or a shill, likely both. Do not listen to them.

>>107099530
just get a 5060?

>>107099565
oh what the fuck theyre cheap

>>107099576
3070ti is faster than a 5060.

>>107098680
>what processor even
9950X3D
can post clocks, temps and workloads later today, not at home rn

Anyone know why my 4070ti with 3 fans is so fucking loud even with old games?
I understand if the game is demanding but it has no consistency

Kingdom Come 2 - 100% usage - fans will sit around 70% speed
Warzone - 70% usage - fans will hit 100% without DLSS
Dishonored 2 (old ass game) - 70% usage - fans will hit 100% randomly

Doesn't make sense to me with my case having great airflow too.

>>107099680
Shitty fan curve? How hot does your GPU get? If it's low enough just adjust your fan curve.

>>107099688
It never goes above 80c and if it does hit 80, it's only for a second or two.
If I'm playing a demanding game, it'll always sit between 65-75.

I've tried adjusting my fan curve so many times but nothing works.

>>107099680
You need to monitor gpu usage, gpu memory use & temps. A pattern will emerge.

>>107099728
Reducing the power limit will reduce how strong the GPU is.
How low can I reduce the limit before I see actual drawbacks?

>>107099576
If you can get enough for a 5060TI 16gb then that would be my pick in that budget but its a step up from the 275$ you mentioned. Barring that a 9060xt 16gb
But buying a base 8gb 5060 in 2025... i dont think you will be happy with it
>>107099584
not by much and with the 5060 you get a new card with access to framegen dlss and warranty
not that either is a great choice but that anon is obviously pressed

>>107099680
>>107099702
> 65-75
that's pretty hot tbqh. You probably have shitty airflow in your case. Maybe you need to repaste the GPU as well.

>>107099745
You need to know WHY it's happening.

Instinctively, it's the thermal paste.

>>107099680
What is the hotspot? Fans hitting 100% indicates a far worse temperature than 75.

>>107099771
lol
No it isn't. Demanding games can get that hot. My 4080 gets up to 65C when I play games on ultra settings.

>>107099702
What's the idle temperature?
If it's around +10-15C your room's ambient temperature then I'm going to assume it's not a thermal paste issue. Just because a bad thermal paste should also mean your GPU gets super hot while idle.

>>107099771
>>107099781
I've never needed to check or re-paste a GPU.
I bought this one relatively close to when it was released. Wouldn't that be too soon for something like this?

>>107099786
I have temp monitors on my 2nd monitor.
The fans are always fine when it's at 70-79C.
Once it reaches 80c, it'll jump start the fans to 100% (3k RPM)

I actually don't mind the fans at around 2.5k RPM since they're not that loud and it keeps the card cool.
It's just weird that random games bring random results.

>>107099801
Idle temp is around 30-35C.

>>107099810
If they fucked up the pasting. Is it PNY?

>>107099810
repaste the card and report back

>>107099810
>Idle temp is around 30-35C.
Not a thermal paste issue then. If you want to test it then try mounting a CPU cooler without or very little thermal paste, you'll find out how hot it gets even at idle.
You most likely have a shitty fan curve. Some games are optimized poorly, which is why they use more GPU power than some other games.

>>107099833
or, repaste it, since this is very cheap.

>>107099820
>>107099829
>>107099833
Will have to to research how to re-paste since I've never done this before.
Thanks.

I've also tried multiple fan curves with pretty much the same effect. Doesn't really matter what I change on Afterburner.
I'm also close to accepting the fact that most games rely on DLSS to run fine.

>>107099877
Your currently selected profile has the fan curve option activated?

>>107099877
>Will have to to research how to re-paste since I've never done this before.
dont get tricked into it if you aren't 100% confident
this thread LOVES talking about repasting gpus and i would bet only one out every 10 anons that mention it has done it, if that many

after buying an oled monitor and using hdr Im relieved I own an nvidia gpu since they added the video hdr options

sdr content can look a bit shit on hdr mode and the nvidia app hdr fixes it up

>>107099902
Yep. I was messing around with different curves, even having the fans around 60-70% speed way before it hit 70C and I could see the fans respond to these new curves.

>>107099928
Will do. I don't believe re-pasting is something I need like the other anon said since my idle temps are good. But I'll still do research just because I like to be informed.

would a cheap watercoolor still be better than the stock cooler for a cpu?
its for a ryzen 5600X btw

>>107099974
sure
but a cheap air cooler makes way more sense

>>107099980
could you elaborate, please?
my pc has two vent spaces in the top, and 3 on the front, currently i have two fans intake on the front and one exhaust on top, one empty slot on each side.
currently i have the stock amd coolor, i was thinking of getting an water cooler with two fans to put on the top , and move the top fan as another intake on the front (all fans as intakes for positive pressure to avoid dust

>>107099974
what the other anon said
the stock cooler of that generation of ryzen (didnt even know the 5600x came with one) was just ok
a 20 peerless assassin is probably enough, but a 40 phantom spirit will keep it even cooler; those are cooling 9600x
That said, which temps are you getting with the stock? i cant imagine that chip getting that hot

>>107100011
well, an advantage water cooler has is its quiterer

when your cpu starts work is forces an air cooler to ramp up fan speed, with aios water absorbs heat so the ramp up is slower and thus less noticeable
but its not a 200w cpu, an air cooler easily dissipates the 60w or something the 5600x outputs. A cheap thermalright air cooler would be good for it.

>>107099974
The only reason to go for an aio is it might be quieter. Theoretically the lifespan might be greater.

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>>107100011
you can attach air coolers or water coolers (aio) to a cpu
air coolers are bulky towers of heat pipes that include a fan (or 2) cooling the pipes, then the hot air goes to the back to the exhaust of the case
water coolers (aio) have a small pump attached to the cpu that well pumps a small amount of water through the pipes to keep the cpu cool, those come with a set of fans that are used to cool off the water as needed
For a 5600x barring aesthetic reasons just about any modern aio will be overkill and a 40$ air cooler should do more than enough to keep that chip cold
You can still get a couple cheap fans and set them in top if you so choose

>>107099974
>>107100031
forgot to mention, another reason for an aio is if you are planning on shipping it.

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>>107100011
also in case you end up with the air cooler and want to set up the fans top this is what noctua recommends

>>107100036
>40$ air cooler
wow.

surely you don't need $40 on an air cooler

>>107100031
What is this chat bot tier bullshit? Cheap aio will crap out within 5 years, decent air cooler will work forever.

>>107100049
neat

>>107100055
>Cheap aio will crap out within 5 years
100% false gramps

>>107100050
i mentioned in the first reply that for a 5600x a 20 peerless assassin should be enough
that said i mentioned the 40 phantom spirit because its just that good and is cooling way hotter chips and this is an anon that was asking about buying an aio which will surely be more expensive than those 40.
BUT AGAIN a 20 thermalright should be enough and he can then buy a couple extra fans to populate the slots he has open

Buy a Timex, those things survive 100ft dives.

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>>107099948
Maybe the reason your GPU gets hot quickly is because you aren't turning on the fans early enough.
My GPU has 0RPM when idle, around 30-45C. The minimum RPM is 56% so I when it reaches 55C the fans start and ramps up quick.
Make your own custom curve, stock fan curves sucks ass. FanControl is a nice program to use since it also tests how fast your fans are working. Maybe your fans are just shit.

I have a 5600x on a stock cooler and its 50º idle
Guess that convo was my waking up call, gonna check on getting a new cooler too

>>107100055
>after 5 years
Time to dust out the PC and upgrade, gramps

>>107100081
Eh that's technically fine. Idle temps mostly come down to how low you set your minimum fan speed. The 5600X doesn't need much power to max out its boost clock so putting an aftermarket cooler on there would mainly get you quieter operation (i.e. you can set a lower fan speed for a given heat load). Not a bad trade for $20 IMO.

If you gonna schizo post at least mix Up your insult vocabulary, gramps.

>>107100104
Might want to black friday since there are a couple other things i want to buy (not necesarily pc related) and use the excuse of the cooler to dust the case and that shit
Can't wait to post how the pc doesnt turn on afterwards, gonna be great

>>107100146
might wait

>>107100146
Sure I guess if you want free shipping or whatever but low-end coolers are already zero margin products so don't expect much of a discount.

thanks for the insight guys
i've decided to go with a regular air cooler, and get extra fans.
the models you guys mentioned unfortunately don't work as a reference for me because i'm outside the us, i'll try to find reviews of the models i have available to buy and see what i can afford
thanks again everyone

>>107100212
thermalright
arctic
be quiet
cooler master
deepcool
Those are some brands that should have a budget friendly model
The models i mentioned earlier (peerless assassin / phantom spirit) are from thermalright for example but the other brands should have similar options

>>107100212
Check deepcool, arctic and endorfy if Thermalright is not available.

>>107100212
if you invest into a noctua cooler it will increase your success with females

>>107100078
Thanks for the insight. I'll definitely try a curve that ramps up even earlier and that program you mentioned too.
I even installed a fan directly under the GPU, above the PSU shroud and it helped somewhat but not enough.

>>107099522
lolllll

>>107092900
AMD gpus in the OP should come now with a huge asterisk "consider ONLY if you're running loonix full time".

>>107099522
9060xt 16gb is just a worse 5060ti 16gb

>>107100309
I googled some blog about why use amd/nvidia gpus
it basically concludes you can use nvidia with some hoops, amd has the convenience of open source code being integrated into the kernel (?) but you can use the usual nvidia drivers or open source drivers which are much worse
then if you do anything AI productivity related on linux you still 100% need nvidia

so I dont really get the usecase for amd

>>107100322
Nvidia driver still have some quirks like not being able to use system memory if VRAM is full thus crashing whatever you're running. Turing+ will get MESA support and that will really make radeon obsolete on linux.

Been using Chink fans for a fortnight now. Cannot complain. Does the job, not as loud as I expected (unless I mess around with that crappy MSI fan controller).

And to think. Only did it cause I got autistic.

anons, going to buy a kit of DDR5 G.Skill RAM right now, it's available both on Newegg and Amazon, for $249. The Amazon seller is a third party, "RACERSPEED INC," and I can get it by tomorrow with Prime, while Newegg itself sells the kit on their website but ships slower.

Who's the more trustworthy and safe option here?

>>107100622
You can easily return Amazon products. Get the Amazon one, test it, if it's broken, return it the same day.

>>107100641
there's a lot of 1star reviews "deleted" by Amazon and since its a 3rd party seller I am not sure if RMA is going to be as easy. Googling them yields some redditors complaining about them too

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I have never seen a mouse cable disintegrate like this after ~2 years of usage
The entire sleeving has turned brittle and just crumbles upon touch. The G502X is a downgrade in every single way compared to the regular G502, even the skates on the bottom have started peeling away.
Guess I'm not buying logitech again, what kind of mice do you use anons

>>107100719
my g502 died at the beginning of this year and I bought a Razer Basilisk Pro and it werks, im satisfied with mine, zero issues, but I'd still be vary since the GN video

>>107100741
>Razer Basilisk Pro
the white one looks beautiful, kinda pricey but yeah I'll look into it, thanks anon

>live in new zealand
>try to buy white mobo for 9800x3d
>only available models are asrock

>>107100719
i used a g402 and bought a g402 and i do think its worse than the one i had (from several years past) like its not as precise despite the same dpi
dunno if they have changed anything
Either way i didnt pick a 502 cause i didnt want/need the extra buttons and i havent noticed any extra wear and tear on this one but i wont judge as crazy if you think that logitech quality has gone down cause something aint right with my 402 either

>>107100663
>I am not sure if RMA is going to be as easy
It will be. As long as it's within Amazon's return policy, which is usually 30 days. Extensively test the RAM and if it passes then good. If it doesn't return it.

>>107100719
Logitech G600. I need all the buttons. I actually plan on buying more from Japan since you can't get them in the west anymore. If one breaks I have a spare. And then I'll try to fix the broken one and use it again. No other mouse comes close to how many buttons the G600 has.

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>>107100803
>i wont judge as crazy if you think that logitech quality has gone down
yeah uh pic related, this never occurred to me before even on the cheapest fucking mice I used
>>107100813
>Logitech G600
oh I remember this one, can't be bought here either

>>107100822
Logicool is Logitech's brand in Japan. Buy some on ebay. Expensive as fuck though.

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>>107100806
ive just heard too many horror stories with third party sellers regardless of platform. I hope Newegg doesn't disappoint me, got a x870 Tomahawk on the way too

>>107100799
Same issue here in sea
The two white boards (x870 tachyon and Asus x870-a WiFi S 吹雪) I'm most interested in have to be imported

>>107100888
You're not returning it to the third party seller, you are returning it to Amazon. Amazon doesn't care and will accept returns on anything because they already made their money.
For example, they're selling the RAM for $250, Amazon takes a cut of 15% I believe if sellers use their platform to sell stuff. If you return it Amazon only gives back $212.5 and pocket $37.5.

>>107100799
Seems to be cheaper to buy on amazon anyway. Although computer lounge has the b850 aorus elite ice in stock.
https://computerlounge.co.nz/products/gigabyte-b850-aorus-elite-wifi7-ice-motherboard

>>107096153
Black Friday sales only exist for moving stock. Don't expect what you actually want to be on sale. Also, good luck not getting sniped.

>>107100924
I do my purchases through a PBtech business account so I recieve a discount unfortunately. I'm not that desperate really. I guess I'll consider it, thanks

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Assuming RAM is installed as follows:
A1 : 8 GB
A2 : 8 GB
B1 : 16 GB
B2 : 8 GB
which of the following will operate in dual channel mode?
a) none
b) the first 16 GB
c) the first 32 GB

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Am I getting tricked here? How can RGB shit be the cheapest by such a margin?

>>107100975
Ram prices went up 50% over the last 3 months due to AI. It is what it is. If you need it now, pay the best price you can find right now

>>107093929
why

>>107094517
you should have more intake fans than exhaust for positive pressure. if you have 2 top fans, the one towards the front should be intake. the top back can be either intake or exhaust. if you only have 1 top fan, it should be intake

>>107095199
>black
>no turbo button
>no power toggle switch
why are you incompetent

Was about to cheap out and buy some non modular PSUs, but then I realized daisy chaining is a bad idea. Then I decided to go modular PSU, but then I forgot I can't just mix and match cables, so buying individual cables from their respective brand is a must, but that's expensive. I only know Corsair sells their PSU cables individually. And I haven't really trusted CableMod from their burnt cables a while back.

>>107100975
its a brand premium thing

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>>107097430
careful, theres a trooper with only a single 5.25 bay abd the rest of the space is for a radiator. i bought a trooper to use as a fike server and ended up not being able to use it for that. i did cram a 420x140x80 radiator with 6x 140 fans into it tho, which was fun. cooled a bulldozer, then a 12900k.

ended up getting a CM stacker, which is better than the trooper, since it has 33% more 5.25 bays (12 instead of 9), and space for 2 PSUs