DRAM prices exploding...
>>107113586Is this tariffs or Ai dickweeds? Who needs to be judo tossed into traffic to make this better?
>DDR4 now more than DDR5Kek, early adopters win again
>>107113601As always companies take a 10% expense and turns it into a permanent 50% price increase. Unfortunately for them this is what literally everyone is doing so there's mass consumer burnout across the board. It turns out computer components, like many other things, are discretionary and the brainless sheep with credit cards are maxed out.
>>107113601Definitely the AI dickweeds. They've committed to buying like 60% of the world's manufacturing capacity for the next 3-5 years.
>>107113586You voted for this.
>>107113601i don't know, but i'm going to blame the Js, just in case
>>107113637I would take everything being more expensive if it meant clean streets and no vandalism.
>>107113637i live in a dictatorship though, don't blame me
>>107113645If those are the only problems in your life then you havent got any problems
>>107113645Unfortunately, the uniparty wants both the high prices and the unsafe streets.
>>107113655Obviously those aren't the only problems because those same people break into homes, sell drugs, drive like shitheads on the road and build shitty houses.
>>107113634It's been 3 years since LLMs were introduced to the general public.
>>107113703maybe some mineral is missing?
>>107113703And..? A 100-acre data center packed to the gills with Blackwell GPUs is still needed to do the heavy lifting. And they can't do much without RAM in the servers.
>>107113703But only recently people have figured out you efficiently load 100B+ models in RAM which makes 128 GB fast RAM kits quite valuable. And you have to understand that supply is relatively limited so even a boost of 20% in demand makes things sell out.
download moar RAM
>>107113586DDR4 too? weird. I got a used 16GB DDR4 stick for $49 two weeks ago. now I know why it felt so expensive back then.
Its only going to go up"Nvidia purchased last week the entire supply of SK Hynix in DRAM, VRAM, HBM, and NAND flash for through the end of 2026. Every single wafer of capacity they had left. That's on top of whatever agreements they already have in place with Micron and Samsung."
>>107113787>Samsungi hate koreans so much it's unreal
>>107113758>Vaginus Troon Tips
>>107113801but South Korea Telecom - Hyundai joint venture doesn't trigger that reaction, only Samsung?
>>107113817Hyundai is ok
>>107113787When are the Chinese bringing their ram chips? They're the only ones that can save us at this point.
>>107113787How is this even allowed and any different from a cartel buying operation where someone buys an entire supply of potatoes?
>>107113900? because no one needs it? And they are not buying it to fuck people over, they are buying it to mass produce the next gen server gpus, same as everyone else, no one is producing for the consumer memory market atm, server stuff is too profitable due to ai
>>107113900corruption
>>107113931>no one needs a vital computer component
>>107113950exactly, its not food / medical products, no laws say you cant go and buy all of them
>>107113965I seriously doubt that boomer
>>107113749>But only recently people have figured out you efficiently load 100B+ models in RAMI don't see the sense in RAM if not for CPU models. What do I fail to see?
>>107114040moes, glm air is the best local model if you cant run big glm / kimi
>>107113586This was 250 dollars when I bought it. Holy hell
>>107114040You can RAM swap to VRAM at decent tokens per second. https://github.com/lodestone-rock/RamTorch is also a decent breakthrough, trade speed but you can finetune large models with RAM swapping too.
>>107113758It has been proved that this is possible. Set up a swap partition in the cloud.
reminder that these companies are all USG fronts and the purpose of the AI systems is to trawl through all the data the NSA has been gathering
>>107114122You retards can't even comprehend how impossible that task is or how long it would take even if you somehow could magically transport that astronomical amount of data without corruption.
>>107113601it's both.
The horror... you might have to close some tabs...
ainiggers ruin everything
>>107113586my computer is shit anyway so prices for slow ass ddr4 are fine
>>107114549lol that is laptop memory
>>107114549that ram was $15 3 months ago
>>107113758
Has nothing to do with AI, simply price gouging on an item no longer produced.
The question now is buy now before prices spiral further or wait a couple weeks for black friday? Black friday deals in a few weeks might not even put prices below what they are now, but this could also be a panic squeeze before the holidays.
>>107114066Hi, Adrian
>>107113586Thankfully local used DDR4 RAM listings haven't gotten too bad, but holy fuck is Ebay terrible. I knew I should've gotten some extra RAM a month ago.
>>107113586>upgrade my poorfag shitbox to 72GB of RAM and a 5800XT back in September>spent about 40 bucks for a 32GB stick of DDR4>check price of said stick of DDR4 now>358 dollarydoosholy fuck
bought some just before the increase for my server build, but none for the desktop i wanted to buildwhen is this shit coming back down? or are they just going to pull the same shit as with gpus
>>107114995China firmly stated that all AI chips going forward must be made in-house which means they're all gonna be sucking up any memory they can produce.So potentially it will never go down
>>107115014Ram is mostly produced in Korea.
i just wanted to upgrade too
>>107115099With material and components from china; they don't have any rare earth in large enough quanities.
>>107115115Didn't think of that. They also need to put the black rectangles on green plates somewhere and that may well happen in China.
>>107113900Cartels-behavior is to buy up stock only to restrict competition from buying it. Nvidia's own backlog of AI cards is months long and growing. It's a legitimate need.
>>107113601Ai its exploding in Europe as well.
>>107114066>Corsair VENGEANCE LPX 2x16 kit>bought at $64.99 in 2023>now $119.99>G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 2x32 kit>bought at $139.99 this march>now $359.99What an absolute cockmongler joke this shit is.
>>107115254Just another industry for them to lose at.
>>107115270kek, i bought 96 gigs of sodimm ddr5 a couple of months ago for 170 euro, it's 470 now
Okay newfags, welcome to PC building but for the last 15 years ram prices have been going up and down, a price doubling isn't unusual, it will go down in a year. SSDs are the same and HDDs to a lesser extent. It's for all purposes random, but usually it's a problem in the 2 companies that actually make all these chips.
>mfw have 128GB RAMthat's it, bros, time to retire. I hope you didn't miss on the generational RAM dip, lmao.
>>107113601Sam Altman already bought like half of the entire RAM supply for the next decade or something.
>>107115394You're fucking retardedThese prices have literally never been this high.
Sam Kikeman needs to go, man, I'm so done with this shit.
>>107115497Here's the next dip. Buy SSDs
>>107115106It is probably only going to get worse, I would just buy it now before it goes up even more. I remember quite a few years ago when SSDs went parabolic it didn't come back down for like 4 or 5 fucking years.
with those prices, soon we vill need to rent PCs and be happy.
>>107114737>item no longer produced.>ddr5I see
>>107114588I bought this kit for $130 6 months ago.
>>107115510i had this thought like a year ago that there's just too much money being bound up in assets, and if that money ever turns liquid, it will cause the prices of certain things to skyrocket whenever a billionaire decides to buy the entire supply of it on a whim. kind of like laser-accurate hyperinflation nuke. the example i thought of was musk buying up all the CPUs for some weird crypto thing, but it turns out to have been altman with RAM
>>107115553good thinking anon. I may sell 64GB $RAM and diversify my portfolio with some $SSD.
>>107115585this hits different now
>paid $196>3. years. ago.I get flashbacks to coof GPU prices all of a sudden
>>107115136Nobody does. Its why the trumpster fire administration sucks donkey balls.
>>107115697>top: poor man with only one computer ("my" computer)>bottom: rich man who owns many computers ("this" is one of my many computers)
>>107113586heilige scheissei've bought 96gb ddr5 for laptop in middle April for 190 euro. now it costs 465.i wanted to change my laptop in ~2-3y, when medusa halo with high memory bandwidth is out. but with such price surge it will be just too expensive
just boughted 64gb of ram for my ai slop machine before it gets worse :feelsbad:
>>107113769 (me)holy fuck, I just checked. same (used) sticks from the same seller went up 39% over the last two weeks. wtf.
>>107115852nice cope, anon. you will need it in upcoming years.
Techniggers always find a way to jack up hardware prices up further, shit drops 50 and then goes up 300
I will pay exactly 0 (zero).
>>107114861aww heckies @_@
>>107113586Amazing. Even on third world market it's rising too.
Wow, the 64 gb kit of 6000 cl30 i got for a bit over 200€ is now 469€.
>>107113841CXMT already do produce ddr5 and are the reason why Samsung/sk hynix stopped producing ddr4 (out priced them). It's just rare to see them in non chink market sticks
