privatized profits, socialized losses. god bless the free market and the usa.

>>107116445
could we call usa, state capitalism?

>>107116503
inverse state capitalism

>>107116503
jew capitalism propped up on the backs of white goyim.

>>107116445
>5+ companies building real products is a bubble

>>107116445
nice AI generated image with no source

800B isn't enough, I need a constant 24/7 feed to the money printer, please, then I'll have AGI

>>107116542
Why you retards always open your mouth for a foot to stuff it, I have no idea.
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/openai-wants-federal-backstop-investments-201700279.html

>>107116538
The products are literally fake.

>>107116584
>yahoo.finance
you literally pointed me to even more ai generated slop

>>107116609
You can literally use them right now. How are they fake?

>>107116677
Their use is to create fake products.

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come home white man

>>107116445
Still seeing apllications every day and not enough data centers to keep with the demand. Idiots just think Ai as a shitty chatbot to talk when they are sad or prompt something to fap.

>>107116838
name literally one other usecase than being a bot which outputs text

>>107116518
kek
yep state capturalism

>>107116677
for them to be real they'd have to start making that money back on the proles

>>107116445
kek burgers are piggybanks for jews

>>107116503
The US is post capitalistic, if you create the correct scheme that includes the correct names you get a line of credit without questions and you can go full retard for years.
ie. Startups™ can leverage by ×5 - ×10 times by simply stating on media and with lawyers "I'll give you 10% of my company if you give me XXXX of money". Money that doesn't need to be in cash or credit, just a promise after X time and so on, by the 5th iteration you have a chimeric mass of Startup×VC-bullshit, backed by the current flavor of Sillicon Valley Bank, commercial papers and promises of co-expenditure for the next decade.
The US isn't compensating for real and substantial creations but for "heuristic speculation" (aka bullshiting as much as possible and using media to create hype and hide the reality, they aren't sparing in expense of trust/truth/future if that means more profit and avoid an implosion)

>>107117621
>compensating
rewarding*
And you just have to see Nvidia to understand why a reference point (a company that actually delivers) can end absurdly overvalued in 1 year, because everybody around Jensen is mentioning his company, Nvidia just happen to be a real company BUT not something that can justify a marketcap price bump by 10 times, from 400 billion to 4 trillion in 1-2 years...

>>107116445
wait so their whole play was actually to become too big to fail
i thought i was just turning into a schizo

>>107116503
You wish. It's the other way around.

>>107116503
Nah, state capitalism would've actually tard wrangling their corpos like China does.

>>107116503
It's a mixed economy

How do I bet against it?

dotcom was a bubble
AI is a straight up scam

>>107118997
Short nvidia

>>107116503
Capitalism with Jewish Characteristics

>>107116902
A bot which identifies unique people in CCTV footage across several feeds.

>>107119010
Nvidia dumping to low millions will be a historic day, can't wait for that day. I will be extremely happy.

What I want to know is what the fuck the actual government has been doing all these years with AI? You don't hear shit from the DoD or DoE begging for AI gibs, but I know 100% for a fact that they have been working on it for 35+ years now. It's just fucking weird that this isn't an actual project within the DoE, considering it's been likened to the actual Manhattan Project and DoE has metric fucktons of compute.

>>107116538
Chinese or Jew, call it.

>>107119024
Crony Socialist Mixed Market Capitalism.

>>107116503
dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

>>107119149
Palantir, ChatGPT/Grok, they are all just using it for data farming and military usage, helping "identify" (code word for tracking users and reporting them to feds) problem individuals and illegally spy on people through purchases like at Wendy's. Its an "Intelligence" (read spy agency) stuff. Best security method against whistleblowing on illegal spy agency shit is not letting the public know what you are doing with your tools.

>>107119149
Anon, the NSA has been routing most internet traffic through a data center in California. They have been mining metadata for decades, they're absolute psychos trashing the internet and eroding other countries.

>>107119192
That's just called Fascism. (Italian), sorry to burst your bubble socialist. Also "American Jingoism."

>>107119203
Every european should sue American government for this violation of GDPR right to have your data be delete-able and not shared to third parties including government. US would be paying off european neets $6mil.

>>107116538
What real products? I've played around with all the LLMs and they are interesting novelties but not useful for doing any real work.

>>107116503
State capitalism is when government employees direct private companies. See China, or Nazi Germany.
USA has private companies directing their government.
Jack Ma doesn't give orders to Xi Jinping.
Larry Fink et al give orders to Trump.

>>107116503
We should call the USA and the western world a tumor, and destroy it.

Destroy America, Nuke america.

America and western Europe and their "culture" are a cancer on the world
>expensive rent
>expensive food
>can't afford a home
>can't afford an apartment
>can't afford to save money
>can't afford to have insurance
>can't afford to copy video games online
>invaders get to have your free shit

Funny how NONE of these problems exist and everyone is doing just fine in places like romania, serbia, hungary, georgia.

Funny how if you just leave american aligned countries, your life just gets better and improves drastically for no reason at all.....

>>107119027
Why on earth would that particular use case require subscription to a generative model with a token based price mechanism?

>>107116538
Google and NVIDIA are the only ones producing something that gets implemented in scientific research, as well as keeping their most pricey unfinished projects unreleased. Every other AI company can burn in hell, especially OpenAI. They produce nothing but slop generators that most people hate and they will never ever be profitable. LLMs are just laziness machines that allow lazy people to halfass their work even more then before. Video generators if it would be possible should just be banned and deleted off of the internet. 0 upsides outside of genning porn and million downsides. Invention worse then leaded gas.

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>>107116497
fpbp

>>107120115
this too

man i wish i worked at some google arcology on some interesting project, or atleast could be a fly on the wall there...
don't know much about nvidia but i'm sure they've got some good engineers somewhere

>>107116445
The US govt. is giving them infinite money.
How the fuck is that a bubble? Its the opposite of a bubble.

>>107120071
>Lets just nuke all of civilization and all the remaining actual humans and let the subhuman trash from the third world rule everything!
>It'll go fine, we promise! We don't know how to build roads, administer basic medical care, create any new technology without cribbing off the back of Western tech, or go three weeks without shooting our neighbors in the face indiscriminately, but it'll be a new, less European, less human civilization!

Yeah, no. Lets stick with America. No matter how bad it gets, its still better than the browns.

>>107116677
>You can literally use them right now. How are they fake?
if open AI can lose $12b selling their real product then the product is actually priced way higher than what they're charging. If it was actually priced above cost, and it was $5 every time you asked chatGPT something, no one would use it.
"fake product" is a stretch but it's definitely a dishonest market grab fueled by investment rather than sound business.

>>107120071
You say this shit because you are online worker taking inflated western money and living off of it in poor country. If you actually had to work in these countries to get money and had to interact with the local economy rather then being digital nomad you would realise that rent prices are a problem in almost every single city on this planet no matter the country.

>>107116497
that's just how it is when you're playing on a team
america is an empire and it needs to fend off challengers who will do anything including what you mentioned to win
so america has to do the same thing to compete
check out Japan's MITI and China's entire industry for an example

>>107116445
Surely Americans won't let it happen again... right?

>>107116503
More like a state ran by capitalism. The state is absolutely cucked to business interests.