>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICEPost build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use casesState BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8>CPUGaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500FWorkstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand>COOLERAIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut>RAM*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in fluxDDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)>SSD (Keep firmware updated)Budget: SN7100, NM790High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)Premium: SN8100https://borecraft.com/>GPUBudget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080pMidrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)4k : 5070ti, 9070xt-Native: 5090>PSUBuying guide:https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITOR1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X71440p: 27" 180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)>OSActivate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMidrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
>News & RumorsRTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.Nova Lake 2026Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2">Product NoticePNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/>PSU Reviewshttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplieshttps://www.lttlabs.com/https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-suppliesFor tier-list enjoyers:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/>Storage Reviews https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.htmlhttps://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSDhttps://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews>Monitor Hunterhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/>Omissions-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performanceLeave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.Pic:>>107121842Previous:>>107114688
>>107122889fuck i forgot to bath my computer
AM5 Motherboard List and Feature Decode:https://urli.info/1e6YeAlso:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqd7lnXlIk
Dead general
>>107123244Start shilling a 5060 or something, that'll attract the amd troon and the thread will move fast again.
>>107123140tldr : buy the board that looks the nicest
>>107123244It's what happens when neets & welfare bros are getting priced out of the hobby.I was able to recommend a $600 budget build using all new components a few years ago (Ryzen 5500/3600, RX 6600, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe).
>>107122889>pacific rim theme intensifies
>build a desktop pc>try to start it>press BUTTon>led lights flash a bit>some fans spin, some struggle to do sowhat do?
>>107123244Where's DLSS Schizo and Nictroon when you needem
What exact dollar amount is a Budget Build? $500? $1000? $1500?
>>107123596rule of thumb is one minimum wage in wherever the fuck you live in
>>107123596Budget doesn't really exist anymore since the affordable GPUs won't last as long as they used to. It took a -60 Ti card two gens to slightly beat the 3070 Ti's average raster performance.AMD is content with playing that game.
>>107123596Budget segment is more or less dead for new gpus + am5
>when you buy amd
>>107123631Theoreticaly that means you could get away with upgrading less often.
Anything like pic related that I can buy and install into my 5.25" bay that's still being sold?
>>107123667And you can get away with that as long as you don't get autistic about epic settings in ue5 games. Basically all desktop rtx gpus other than maybe the 2060 and 3050 6gb are still totally usable today
>>107123660Glad you brought that up. I want to ask if XFX Quicksilver is a good model of 9070xt. Its fuck huge so Im guessing cooling should be decent?
>>107123716XFX improved their coolers for RX 9000 cards; it should be one of the better models.Some of the early dual BIOS card revisions only shipped with a single fan mode (kek), maybe that's addressed by now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvT5XvG65Y
>>107123690search for 5.25" front panel hub, media dashboard, or similar.https://www.amazon.com/Wendry-Front-Panel-Extension-Computer/dp/B07SFVLX8Ghttps://www.newegg.com/p/0J2-074V-000A2
is this 9070XT Model good? it's the cheapestWhich between Asus Prime and Sapphire Pulse is the best and more reliable?
>>107123801Pulse has one of the worst memory cooling.Prime's stock fan curve runs faster (1700 vs 1200 RPM).Check the video in >>107123765
>>107123785For all the results and search suggestions, ones with a power/reset button seem to be absent.
>>107123833Should I invest more for another model then?
>>107123596For me <1000 is budget but it's very arbitrary ultimately.
>>107123893https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808248717634.html
>>107123911Pulse and Prime are fine options.The Pulse's stock fan curve is set too low; that's why the memory chips run hot.The memory chip temps are fine if you set a custom fan curve for the Pulse.If you don't like the Prime's higher fan speed, you can switch to the quiet BIOS mode.
>>107123911>InvestGPUs are a depreciating asset (unless you buy a 4090/5090). You don’t invest in them unless you’re shopping at the ultra high end and want to get your money back when you upgrade.
I finally built my rig anons, after a lot of retardation from me.Anyway, I'm a complete newfag, what advice could you give me to care for the rig? And keep it healthy
>>107124021Just open it up and blow air in it once every few months.
>>107124021Dust that bitch at least every couple of months, don’t be lazy.
>>107123947So if I get the Pulse model, and adjust the fan curve in adrenalin I should be fine?>>107123962Yeah yeah you're right, english isn't my first language and looking back at my previous message I indeed didn't use the right word.
>>107124039>So if I get the Pulse model, and adjust the fan curve in adrenalin I should be fine?Yes, I suggest you watch that video and finalize your purchase.
>>107123833does pulse have the same problem with all cards?
>>107122889Cheapest possible build to play dota2 at 120fps max settings? Im tired of playing at my potato laptop its actually gimping my performance in the game
>193 euro for klevv 64gb cl 30 6000 mhz at my local shopShould i pull the trigger? I'm already have 32 gb but i'm worried that the price will get even worse in the future.
>>107124114do you need 64gb
>>107124114I mean it probably won't take THAT long till AI bubble bursts and prices start going down.It depends on how well off you are and how much you want it.
>>107124109This bench used a 9600X & 6000MT/s CL30 memory.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CjMRmnpynE
ryzen or an interl for a cheap laptop?
Lord please deliver a 34" ultrawide OLED $500 for black friday
>>107123667Raster barely matters anymore and it has barely matter since 2022 when DIrect X12 ultimate ready titles released, but amdrones are not ready for that conversation yet. motion vectors, bilinear filtering and velocity buffer all have been king from the 2022 when the first games using them came out but retards in youtube are way too addicted to barcharts rather than actually discussing image quality and rendering.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDnXe6N8h_cGamerNexus goes a little bit around it but doesn't touch the fact that benching games that hit production years ago is dumb and most of the new tech is build around the new Direct X12 bullshit comes out in a few months and is supposed to support "neural rendering" which is a buzzword to shill AI using all these advancements in the rendering pipeline with the focus on moving away further from raster and shaders units per parallel proccesing,
>>107124121Probably. Shit like MSFS and Escape From Taco eat my ram like a hot cake and i don't even have anything open on the background.
is an Asus PRIME A620M-K a good starter mobo to get into ddr5 before the price collapses further?i'l getting it alongside a 9 7900
>>107124278id avoid a620>Finally, A620 motherboards not only disallow CPU overclocking, but they may also officially support CPUs with a TDP of up to only 120W, which excludes the Ryzen 9 7950X and 7900X; or even 65W, which only includes the non-X Ryzen 7000 models for now.
if im waiting on the 5070 ti super, should i hold off buying my pc parts on blackfriday or is it a good chance? im assuming its gonna take a while for the supers
>>107124423i seehow about Mae Gigabyte B650M H, DDR5, Socket AMD AM5, M-ATX, Chipset AMD B650, B650M-Hi'm trying to stay reaaly budget
>>107124457try to look at b850 mobos that go on sale on black friday
>>107124441Buy the parts ahead of time if the deals are good.But I would buy enough to confirm the parts are working instead of relying on manufacturer RMAs in the worst case.
>>107124441RAM and SSD will be expensive as fuck next year, as for proccesors it depends what are you looking into, AMD says that am5 motherboards will support ZEN 6 so theorically you could wait on the CPU and buy the rest on , 97003XD will also be out and may be a cheap alternative to the 98003XD but who knows if you can secure a 98003XD cheap it may be worth it
>>107124473the cheapest b850 available to me right now its a Gigabyte B850M DS3H, how is it? i can't count on black friday sales on my country unfortunately, so the quicker i secur the mb and ram the better
>>107124573nows the terrible time to buy ram since prices at up 100% from a month agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLMTT7-rfeMds3h failed steves test there so its prob not recommended even if you wouldnt notice it with your cpu
>>107123923Damn, how did I not notice that listing. Buttons were blending in on the thumbnail. Thanks for noticing anon.
>>107124604the price spikes haven't quite reached my country yet, which is why i'm on a hurry to buythe ds3h is the most i can afford, and barelybetween it and the asus a620m-k i first mentioned, which one is worse, then?the 9 7900 has 88w ppt (idk what this means but it seems to be the factor that decides whether a mb can handle a cpu or not
I need some sanity checking help. I've got a Z690-A Pro DDR4 motherboard and a 13600K. According to the specs at us.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-DDR4/Specification it can hold up to 128gb of RAM. Currently it has 32gb of RAM in it (2x16) in 2 slots. I was going to try and grab 32gb more (another 2x16) to bring the total up to 64. However, according to the memory specs at /us.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-DDR4/support#mem (pic related), it looks like I can only use 2 dimm slots?Am I reading this correctly? That if I use this particular model of RAM I can only use 2 slots instead of 4? The motherboard has 4 slots, and 2 are presently empty. Any clarification would be appreciated.
Holy ram prices when is it going to stop
>>107124704Only if you overclock it.Rule of thumb, maximum of two RAM sticks to overclock. Any more than that and you need to run at base speed to make it work.If you want more memory but also want the speed you need 2x32GB RAM sticks to overclock 64GB of RAM.
>>107124750
>>107124656ds3h is betteryes 7900 (non x) has low power draw so it wont be limited like a 200w cpu at max load would
>>107124753Ah ok. So with 4 sticks it'll only run at the base 2133Mhz speed. And if I stick with 2 I could potentially run the RAM at 3600Mhz. I don't suppose server RAM would work if the speed is already kind of low?
>>107124750i had to pay $100 for a DDR5 32GB stick and it was just a 5600 mhz 36 cl one, 6000 mhz and cl 30 rams or above are either sold out or twice as expensive, im also shtiting bricks because it still has not arrived and the same type of ram is now $140 on my country
>>107117635>>107117646Thanks for the answers, anons. I'll check if I can snag a 5060 Ti during the incoming holiday sales.>try to look for one with good memory temperatures though, some models cheapen out and do not have thermalds pad on the backHow could I check that? Look up images/videos of the different brand models? Are the pads usually visible, or should I look for images of the disassembled card? Or is there something I can check on the box or on the product page of the store?>look into the 5070 TI super with 24gb vramI wouldn't mind it, but I think that's going a bit too hard for my current level of fucking around with AI. The 5070 Ti is already ~1000€ (picrel, and even the used ones aren't that much cheaper), so I assume that the Super will be even more expensive. Maybe if I get lucky enough to make some extra money on the side with this, I'll look into higher end stuff kek
prebuilts looking pretty good right about now, their prices havent increased with ram
>>107124441Buy the parts and build it.
Should I suck my friend's dick for having given me 32gb DDR5 as gift? How hard should I work the shaft?
>>107122889Okay /g/uys, I bought a new laptop and wanted to use the wd sn850x I already owned with it, but when I changed it it basically bends over because it's populated on the two sides, do you guys know a good m2 ssd that's only single sided on the 4tb model?I've found people say that the lexar nm790 is good, and there's too the samsung 990 evo plus which is rather affordable and fast.
>>1071247044x16 will work at high speeds on that boardMSI has good DDR4 support on Z690/Z790but it depends if your kits are single rank or dual rank, 4 dual rank sticks would be a quad rank setup and that's questionabledo you know if your sticks are version 3.31 (like in the screenshot) or are you just looking at the model number?https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#corsair-version-number
>>107124890>How could I check that?Review sites and videos, good reviews usually have a section in which they show the disassembled card both metal blackplates and thermal pads in the back are usually fatures to look out but dont over pay too much for it unless you live in an hot or humid placeand cant afford AC, i would avoid zotac lower end models unless they are significantly cheaper than everyone else on your country
>>107125004The sticks I currently have in my machine say ver 3.34 on the sticks. Their model is CMK32GX4M2D3600C 18. The RAM I was scoping out is the exact same model, but I don't know what version it says on the sticks. This model is dual sided. For my application, speed is actually not as important as raw RAM capacity and stability. But you're saying having 4 dual-sided sticks of RAM is a bad idea?
>>1071241099800X3D on some solid but cheap mobo with the bare necessities. Air cool it with one of them chinese coolers.
>>107124890>How could I check that? GamersNexus does temperature measurements for cards they review, and they sometimes include cards of the same type but different manufacturers. But if you just google "5060 Ti thermal comparisons" you should land on some sites with charts that go compare the different versions to show you what the coolest one is, and what the quietest one is.
>>107125165>The RAM I was scoping out is the exact same model, but I don't know what version it says on the sticksno way to predict that, corsair will give you anything as long as it meets their minimum requirementsthe official model numbers don't mean anything with RAM>But you're saying having 4 dual-sided sticks of RAM is a bad idea?yes, and ver 3.34 seems to be 8gbit micron rev E, so you already have 2 dual-sided sticksof course it will still work if you go down to base speed, but that's really bad for a 13600Kmight still be fine for your applications though
Not sure exactly how this is possible, but two of the rivets on the motherboard tray are missing and misaligned. Whether this has anything to do with the series of broken off rivet caps I discovered upon first sighting the case I am uncertain.
>>107125166>Cheapest possible build to play dota2 at 120fps>9800X3Dredditors really say this shit with a straight face
>>107124890also if this are your price i can at least say that based on techpower up the Asus prime non OC model does have metal backplate and thermal pads on the back it's a little bit above msrp but not much altough is out of stock right now (probably because of it) maybe look if it goes on sale during black friday
>>107125258the OC model also has it but overall OC models are scam so pick up the cheaper one
>>107125227>might still be fine for your applications thoughI'm mostly getting it for some Houdini work. According to various sources I've looked at, RAM speed doesn't seem to impact simulation calculation times as much as RAM "capacity" does. And stability, obviously. So I don't mind the slower clock speed as long as it doesn't crash in the middle of a 10-hour simulation.
>>107125242>mad when people get the best cpu>mad when people dont get the best gpuget a rope nigger
>CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 RAM 96GB (2x48GB) 6000MHz CL30-36-36-76Just ordered it ahead of everything else. I'm getting ahead of this thing while the increase is still palatable.If by some miracle the prices come back to Earth next month I will just return it for the difference.
>>107125312>I'm getting ahead of this thing while the increase is still palatable.my dude it's already done. this is the peak. damage is already done.
>>107125166>9800X3DThats overkill. I dont even need hd graphics i just need a system that can handle team fights without it massive fps drops or worse game crashes
>>107125275any configuration you throw together will work if you stick to low speedsget a new kit and put it in slots A1/A2, put the old kit in slots B1/B2this makes the memory controller train them separately, so you can mix and match as much as needed>According to various sources I've looked at, RAM speed doesn't seem to impact simulation calculation times as much as RAM "capacity" doesyou're probably right, but keep in mind that raptor lake is the last desktop architecture with DDR4 supportthe cores are substantially more powerful than earlier intel architecturesmeaning they need more bytes/sec from RAM to sustain high IPCmeaning they're affected more by RAM speed than some old quad core >>107125326you have to get the 9800X3D because his favorite techtuber told him it was the best
You want to play solitaire and candy crush? Get the 9800X3D
>>107125326Try Intel i5-4590 or 4690. Those are about $5 used. Motherboards go for $10.
>>107125347another retarded recommendation considering an anon posted a screenshot earlier showing the 9600X with 140 FPS lows
>>107125332Solitaire will be the first game I play when I finally upgrade to 9800x3d.
So since the case I ordered is too tight I need a 12VHPWR 90° angled down adapter for my 5090.Any recommended brands?
>>107125356Says 170 in the image
alright so i just put this list together:CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900 (12 C / 24 T, up to 5.4 GHz)Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M DS3H (AM5, DDR5, mATX)Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32 GB (2×16 GB) 5200 MHz CL40 – CMK32GX5M2B5200C40Graphics Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 XT Gaming OC 16 GB – GV-R76XTGAMING-OC-16GDStorage: ADATA Legend 860 1 TB M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe – SLEG-860-1000GCSPower Supply: Gigabyte P650G PG5 – 650 W ATX 3.1 / PCIe 5.1 / 80 Plus GoldCase: Aigo DarkFlash Aquarius Mesh – Black (Acrylic Side Panel)its the cheapest but most compatible i could make itanything too wrong with it?
>>107125387lol so it's GPU limitedi wasn't expecting thatyou can probably get away with a 5600 or maybe even a 3600but not a haswell i5
>>107125389You can save money by using your old drive and case from the 5600x build
>>107125369None. Buy a bigger case instead or get a vertical mount. I wouldn't trust these things ever.
>>107125405actually i'm seeling my old pc to afford this onei'm asking for 5k on the old one, probably gonna sell it for 4.5k. the new one is about 7.5k
