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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
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>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic:
>>107121842
Previous:
>>107114688
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>>107122889
fuck i forgot to bath my computer
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AM5 Motherboard List and Feature Decode:
https://urli.info/1e6Ye

Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFqd7lnXlIk
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Dead general
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>>107123244
Start shilling a 5060 or something, that'll attract the amd troon and the thread will move fast again.
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>>107123140
tldr : buy the board that looks the nicest
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>>107123244
It's what happens when neets & welfare bros are getting priced out of the hobby.
I was able to recommend a $600 budget build using all new components a few years ago (Ryzen 5500/3600, RX 6600, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVMe).
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>>107122889
>pacific rim theme intensifies
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>build a desktop pc
>try to start it
>press BUTTon
>led lights flash a bit
>some fans spin, some struggle to do so
what do?
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>>107123244
Where's DLSS Schizo and Nictroon when you needem
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What exact dollar amount is a Budget Build? $500? $1000? $1500?
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>>107123596
rule of thumb is one minimum wage in wherever the fuck you live in
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>>107123596
Budget doesn't really exist anymore since the affordable GPUs won't last as long as they used to. It took a -60 Ti card two gens to slightly beat the 3070 Ti's average raster performance.
AMD is content with playing that game.
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>>107123596
Budget segment is more or less dead for new gpus + am5
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>when you buy amd
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>>107123631
Theoreticaly that means you could get away with upgrading less often.
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Anything like pic related that I can buy and install into my 5.25" bay that's still being sold?
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>>107123667
And you can get away with that as long as you don't get autistic about epic settings in ue5 games. Basically all desktop rtx gpus other than maybe the 2060 and 3050 6gb are still totally usable today
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>>107123660
Glad you brought that up. I want to ask if XFX Quicksilver is a good model of 9070xt. Its fuck huge so Im guessing cooling should be decent?
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>>107123716
XFX improved their coolers for RX 9000 cards; it should be one of the better models.
Some of the early dual BIOS card revisions only shipped with a single fan mode (kek), maybe that's addressed by now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvT5XvG65Y
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>>107123690
search for 5.25" front panel hub, media dashboard, or similar.
https://www.amazon.com/Wendry-Front-Panel-Extension-Computer/dp/B07SFVLX8G
https://www.newegg.com/p/0J2-074V-000A2
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is this 9070XT Model good? it's the cheapest
Which between Asus Prime and Sapphire Pulse is the best and more reliable?
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>>107123801
Pulse has one of the worst memory cooling.
Prime's stock fan curve runs faster (1700 vs 1200 RPM).
Check the video in >>107123765
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>>107123785
For all the results and search suggestions, ones with a power/reset button seem to be absent.
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>>107123833
Should I invest more for another model then?
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>>107123596
For me <1000 is budget but it's very arbitrary ultimately.
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>>107123893
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808248717634.html
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>>107123911
Pulse and Prime are fine options.
The Pulse's stock fan curve is set too low; that's why the memory chips run hot.
The memory chip temps are fine if you set a custom fan curve for the Pulse.
If you don't like the Prime's higher fan speed, you can switch to the quiet BIOS mode.
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>>107123911
>Invest
GPUs are a depreciating asset (unless you buy a 4090/5090). You don’t invest in them unless you’re shopping at the ultra high end and want to get your money back when you upgrade.
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I finally built my rig anons, after a lot of retardation from me.

Anyway, I'm a complete newfag, what advice could you give me to care for the rig? And keep it healthy
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>>107124021
Just open it up and blow air in it once every few months.
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>>107124021
Dust that bitch at least every couple of months, don’t be lazy.
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>>107123947
So if I get the Pulse model, and adjust the fan curve in adrenalin I should be fine?

>>107123962
Yeah yeah you're right, english isn't my first language and looking back at my previous message I indeed didn't use the right word.
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>>107124039
>So if I get the Pulse model, and adjust the fan curve in adrenalin I should be fine?
Yes, I suggest you watch that video and finalize your purchase.
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>>107123833
does pulse have the same problem with all cards?
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>>107122889
Cheapest possible build to play dota2 at 120fps max settings? Im tired of playing at my potato laptop its actually gimping my performance in the game
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>193 euro for klevv 64gb cl 30 6000 mhz at my local shop
Should i pull the trigger? I'm already have 32 gb but i'm worried that the price will get even worse in the future.
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>>107124114
do you need 64gb
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>>107124114
I mean it probably won't take THAT long till AI bubble bursts and prices start going down.
It depends on how well off you are and how much you want it.
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>>107124109
This bench used a 9600X & 6000MT/s CL30 memory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CjMRmnpynE
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ryzen or an interl for a cheap laptop?
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Lord please deliver a 34" ultrawide OLED $500 for black friday
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>>107123667
Raster barely matters anymore and it has barely matter since 2022 when DIrect X12 ultimate ready titles released, but amdrones are not ready for that conversation yet. motion vectors, bilinear filtering and velocity buffer all have been king from the 2022 when the first games using them came out but retards in youtube are way too addicted to barcharts rather than actually discussing image quality and rendering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDnXe6N8h_c

GamerNexus goes a little bit around it but doesn't touch the fact that benching games that hit production years ago is dumb and most of the new tech is build around the new Direct X12 bullshit comes out in a few months and is supposed to support "neural rendering" which is a buzzword to shill AI using all these advancements in the rendering pipeline with the focus on moving away further from raster and shaders units per parallel proccesing,
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>>107124121
Probably. Shit like MSFS and Escape From Taco eat my ram like a hot cake and i don't even have anything open on the background.
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is an Asus PRIME A620M-K a good starter mobo to get into ddr5 before the price collapses further?
i'l getting it alongside a 9 7900
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>>107124278
id avoid a620
>Finally, A620 motherboards not only disallow CPU overclocking, but they may also officially support CPUs with a TDP of up to only 120W, which excludes the Ryzen 9 7950X and 7900X; or even 65W, which only includes the non-X Ryzen 7000 models for now.
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if im waiting on the 5070 ti super, should i hold off buying my pc parts on blackfriday or is it a good chance? im assuming its gonna take a while for the supers
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>>107124423
i see
how about Mae Gigabyte B650M H, DDR5, Socket AMD AM5, M-ATX, Chipset AMD B650, B650M-H
i'm trying to stay reaaly budget
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>>107124457
try to look at b850 mobos that go on sale on black friday
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>>107124441
Buy the parts ahead of time if the deals are good.
But I would buy enough to confirm the parts are working instead of relying on manufacturer RMAs in the worst case.
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>>107124441
RAM and SSD will be expensive as fuck next year, as for proccesors it depends what are you looking into, AMD says that am5 motherboards will support ZEN 6 so theorically you could wait on the CPU and buy the rest on , 97003XD will also be out and may be a cheap alternative to the 98003XD but who knows if you can secure a 98003XD cheap it may be worth it
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>>107124473
the cheapest b850 available to me right now its a Gigabyte B850M DS3H, how is it?
i can't count on black friday sales on my country unfortunately, so the quicker i secur the mb and ram the better
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>>107124573
nows the terrible time to buy ram since prices at up 100% from a month ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLMTT7-rfeM
ds3h failed steves test there so its prob not recommended even if you wouldnt notice it with your cpu
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>>107123923
Damn, how did I not notice that listing. Buttons were blending in on the thumbnail. Thanks for noticing anon.
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>>107124604
the price spikes haven't quite reached my country yet, which is why i'm on a hurry to buy
the ds3h is the most i can afford, and barely
between it and the asus a620m-k i first mentioned, which one is worse, then?
the 9 7900 has 88w ppt (idk what this means but it seems to be the factor that decides whether a mb can handle a cpu or not
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I need some sanity checking help. I've got a Z690-A Pro DDR4 motherboard and a 13600K. According to the specs at us.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-DDR4/Specification it can hold up to 128gb of RAM. Currently it has 32gb of RAM in it (2x16) in 2 slots. I was going to try and grab 32gb more (another 2x16) to bring the total up to 64. However, according to the memory specs at /us.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-DDR4/support#mem (pic related), it looks like I can only use 2 dimm slots?

Am I reading this correctly? That if I use this particular model of RAM I can only use 2 slots instead of 4? The motherboard has 4 slots, and 2 are presently empty. Any clarification would be appreciated.
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Holy ram prices when is it going to stop
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>>107124704
Only if you overclock it.
Rule of thumb, maximum of two RAM sticks to overclock. Any more than that and you need to run at base speed to make it work.
If you want more memory but also want the speed you need 2x32GB RAM sticks to overclock 64GB of RAM.
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>>107124750
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>>107124656
ds3h is better
yes 7900 (non x) has low power draw so it wont be limited like a 200w cpu at max load would
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>>107124753
Ah ok. So with 4 sticks it'll only run at the base 2133Mhz speed. And if I stick with 2 I could potentially run the RAM at 3600Mhz. I don't suppose server RAM would work if the speed is already kind of low?
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>>107124750
i had to pay $100 for a DDR5 32GB stick and it was just a 5600 mhz 36 cl one, 6000 mhz and cl 30 rams or above are either sold out or twice as expensive, im also shtiting bricks because it still has not arrived and the same type of ram is now $140 on my country
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>>107117635
>>107117646
Thanks for the answers, anons. I'll check if I can snag a 5060 Ti during the incoming holiday sales.
>try to look for one with good memory temperatures though, some models cheapen out and do not have thermalds pad on the back
How could I check that? Look up images/videos of the different brand models? Are the pads usually visible, or should I look for images of the disassembled card? Or is there something I can check on the box or on the product page of the store?
>look into the 5070 TI super with 24gb vram
I wouldn't mind it, but I think that's going a bit too hard for my current level of fucking around with AI. The 5070 Ti is already ~1000€ (picrel, and even the used ones aren't that much cheaper), so I assume that the Super will be even more expensive. Maybe if I get lucky enough to make some extra money on the side with this, I'll look into higher end stuff kek
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prebuilts looking pretty good right about now, their prices havent increased with ram
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>>107124441
Buy the parts and build it.
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Should I suck my friend's dick for having given me 32gb DDR5 as gift? How hard should I work the shaft?
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>>107122889
Okay /g/uys, I bought a new laptop and wanted to use the wd sn850x I already owned with it, but when I changed it it basically bends over because it's populated on the two sides, do you guys know a good m2 ssd that's only single sided on the 4tb model?
I've found people say that the lexar nm790 is good, and there's too the samsung 990 evo plus which is rather affordable and fast.
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>>107124704
4x16 will work at high speeds on that board
MSI has good DDR4 support on Z690/Z790
but it depends if your kits are single rank or dual rank, 4 dual rank sticks would be a quad rank setup and that's questionable

do you know if your sticks are version 3.31 (like in the screenshot) or are you just looking at the model number?
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4%20OC%20Guide.md#corsair-version-number
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>>107124890
>How could I check that?
Review sites and videos, good reviews usually have a section in which they show the disassembled card both metal blackplates and thermal pads in the back are usually fatures to look out but dont over pay too much for it unless you live in an hot or humid place
and cant afford AC, i would avoid zotac lower end models unless they are significantly cheaper than everyone else on your country
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>>107125004
The sticks I currently have in my machine say ver 3.34 on the sticks. Their model is CMK32GX4M2D3600C 18. The RAM I was scoping out is the exact same model, but I don't know what version it says on the sticks. This model is dual sided. For my application, speed is actually not as important as raw RAM capacity and stability. But you're saying having 4 dual-sided sticks of RAM is a bad idea?
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>>107124109
9800X3D on some solid but cheap mobo with the bare necessities. Air cool it with one of them chinese coolers.
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>>107124890
>How could I check that?
GamersNexus does temperature measurements for cards they review, and they sometimes include cards of the same type but different manufacturers. But if you just google "5060 Ti thermal comparisons" you should land on some sites with charts that go compare the different versions to show you what the coolest one is, and what the quietest one is.
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>>107125165
>The RAM I was scoping out is the exact same model, but I don't know what version it says on the sticks
no way to predict that, corsair will give you anything as long as it meets their minimum requirements
the official model numbers don't mean anything with RAM
>But you're saying having 4 dual-sided sticks of RAM is a bad idea?
yes, and ver 3.34 seems to be 8gbit micron rev E, so you already have 2 dual-sided sticks
of course it will still work if you go down to base speed, but that's really bad for a 13600K
might still be fine for your applications though
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Not sure exactly how this is possible, but two of the rivets on the motherboard tray are missing and misaligned. Whether this has anything to do with the series of broken off rivet caps I discovered upon first sighting the case I am uncertain.
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>>107125166
>Cheapest possible build to play dota2 at 120fps
>9800X3D
redditors really say this shit with a straight face
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>>107124890
also if this are your price i can at least say that based on techpower up the Asus prime non OC model does have metal backplate and thermal pads on the back it's a little bit above msrp but not much altough is out of stock right now (probably because of it) maybe look if it goes on sale during black friday
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>>107125258
the OC model also has it but overall OC models are scam so pick up the cheaper one
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>>107125227
>might still be fine for your applications though
I'm mostly getting it for some Houdini work. According to various sources I've looked at, RAM speed doesn't seem to impact simulation calculation times as much as RAM "capacity" does. And stability, obviously. So I don't mind the slower clock speed as long as it doesn't crash in the middle of a 10-hour simulation.
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>>107125242
>mad when people get the best cpu
>mad when people dont get the best gpu
get a rope nigger
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>CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 RAM 96GB (2x48GB) 6000MHz CL30-36-36-76
Just ordered it ahead of everything else. I'm getting ahead of this thing while the increase is still palatable.
If by some miracle the prices come back to Earth next month I will just return it for the difference.
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>>107125312
>I'm getting ahead of this thing while the increase is still palatable.
my dude it's already done. this is the peak. damage is already done.
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>>107125166
>9800X3D
Thats overkill. I dont even need hd graphics i just need a system that can handle team fights without it massive fps drops or worse game crashes
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>>107125275
any configuration you throw together will work if you stick to low speeds
get a new kit and put it in slots A1/A2, put the old kit in slots B1/B2
this makes the memory controller train them separately, so you can mix and match as much as needed
>According to various sources I've looked at, RAM speed doesn't seem to impact simulation calculation times as much as RAM "capacity" does
you're probably right, but keep in mind that raptor lake is the last desktop architecture with DDR4 support
the cores are substantially more powerful than earlier intel architectures
meaning they need more bytes/sec from RAM to sustain high IPC
meaning they're affected more by RAM speed than some old quad core
>>107125326
you have to get the 9800X3D because his favorite techtuber told him it was the best
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You want to play solitaire and candy crush? Get the 9800X3D
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>>107125326
Try Intel i5-4590 or 4690. Those are about $5 used. Motherboards go for $10.
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>>107125347
another retarded recommendation considering an anon posted a screenshot earlier showing the 9600X with 140 FPS lows
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>>107125332
Solitaire will be the first game I play when I finally upgrade to 9800x3d.
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So since the case I ordered is too tight I need a 12VHPWR 90° angled down adapter for my 5090.
Any recommended brands?
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>>107125356
Says 170 in the image
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alright so i just put this list together:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900 (12 C / 24 T, up to 5.4 GHz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M DS3H (AM5, DDR5, mATX)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR5 32 GB (2×16 GB) 5200 MHz CL40 – CMK32GX5M2B5200C40
Graphics Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 7600 XT Gaming OC 16 GB – GV-R76XTGAMING-OC-16GD
Storage: ADATA Legend 860 1 TB M.2 2280 PCIe 4.0 NVMe – SLEG-860-1000GCS
Power Supply: Gigabyte P650G PG5 – 650 W ATX 3.1 / PCIe 5.1 / 80 Plus Gold
Case: Aigo DarkFlash Aquarius Mesh – Black (Acrylic Side Panel)

its the cheapest but most compatible i could make it
anything too wrong with it?
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>>107125387
lol so it's GPU limited
i wasn't expecting that
you can probably get away with a 5600 or maybe even a 3600
but not a haswell i5
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>>107125389
You can save money by using your old drive and case from the 5600x build
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>>107125369
None. Buy a bigger case instead or get a vertical mount. I wouldn't trust these things ever.
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>>107125405
actually i'm seeling my old pc to afford this one
i'm asking for 5k on the old one, probably gonna sell it for 4.5k. the new one is about 7.5k
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>>107125347
Im not that broke
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>>107125423
seems like a waste of time, the 7600xt card is barely faster than your old card
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>>107125389
Why 7900? What do you need it for?
Depends on what price you are getting that board for but B650 will be fine too
That ram isn't good. Buy something around 6000 CL30 mark. Is it significantly cheaper than the offerings around this range? I know memory prices are fucked now but still.
SSD seems a bit mediocre. Try finding TLC one in same price range.
Too lazy to check psu tier list right now, do that yourself.
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>>107125369
Seasonic has one but I havent tested it myself. I'm still using the one from my PSU but I can see the ampere numbers on my astral card. Alternative if you're scared of your card and it fits you may consider a wireview pro 2 which comes with the same as the astral does.
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>>107125462
>Why 7900? What do you need it for?
It was the cheapest ryzen 9, i assumed it was the best, and it came with a stock cooler so thats one less thing to worry
There is a AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, that is cheaper enough to allow to get a cheap watercooler too.
i don't know if a 5 9600x beats a 9 7900, if the tier or the generation is more important
and if getting it would make me have to get a stronger mobo
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>>107125582
9600x and 7900 have the same 88W PPT at default settings
what is your current video card power limit and undervolt? what clocks do you hold in your games?
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>>107125462
>That ram isn't good
there is a Lexar Thor OC, 32GB (2x16GB), DDR5, 6000MHz, C32 for 100 more (about 20usd more)
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>>107125242
I have played quite a bit of Dota 2. Two things:
>the 1% lows are the actual most important parts of the game when the most stuff is happening
>Valve WILL over time patch the game to make it run worse and worse, and only do "spring cleaning" once per year
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>>107125613
i don't know how to mess with that stuff, mostly i just plug and use it as it comes
hence why i'm kinda lost with this haha
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>>107125582
What do you want this computer for?
7600/9600(X) is the budget entry point. Despite being budget they are still very respectible CPUs. Unless you can articulate a more coherent response it's probably what you should be buying.
9800x3d is the gaming king if you have the money.
7900 is a budget workhorse CPU. Won't really offer much over the first option for games and every day performance though. Dumb buy if you can't state why you need this.
Watercooling is not needed here.
Tier is more important but you do not "need" higher tier.
No B650/B850 is fine for all the CPUs I mentioned.
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>>107125629
>I have played quite a bit of Dota 2
then i'll trust you more than anyone else in this thread (including myself) because you have first-hand experience instead of shit you made up in your head to win an internet argument
if you think a 9800X3D is necessary then sure go buy a 9800X3D
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>>107125323
The sticks I found only got jacked $150. I am already seeing other places slap another $150 on top.
You can't know when this will end. Yeah, "never seen a shortage not followed by a glut" and all that, but if GPUs are any indication that glut will be a long time coming.
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>>107125623
It should be worth 20 bucks more.
Dunno much about Lexar's memory kits but it's hard to fuck up memory catastrophically so I wouldn't worry about the brand too much.
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>>107125641
I recommend max overclocking your current card before dropping $1500 on a low end build
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>>107125675
NTA, but if I recall correctly, there was a little glut right at the end of the pandemic as they began launching the 4000 series. GPUs were relatively plentiful in early 2023. So I assume in a year or two, we'll have a small glut of DDR5 RAM and last gen GPUs.
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>>107125657
mostly gaming, digital drawing, light video editing/encoding
seems like the Ryzen 5 9600X might be the best option then, since it is also cheaper
thank you
>>107125683
since i'm going with the cheaper cpu i will get it, thanks
20usd seems small but its like 6% of my monthly income haha
>>107125688
i really don't know how to mess with this stuff, plus i heard you can't sell an oc'ed card easily after
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>>107125814
Yeah get 9600 with that memory. I also would ignore the comment that suggested OC.
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>>107125671
He can get away with less, of course. But I have already seen a similar situation to his with a 5800X3D purchased as a deal at the end times of AM4 and it's getting unpleasantly low numbers already.
Not sure how much I'd trust benchmarks when it comes to Dota 2 either. Certain heroes or hero and item combinations can nuke your fps. If those become meta then a monster CPU can make a huge difference. There's no way to test for this.
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>>107125453
>>107125833
there is a XFX Radeon RX 9060 XT for cheaper than the 7600xt, but the 9060xt is 8gb while the 7600xt is 16gb
again, i don't know wheter the generation or the vram amount is more relevant
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>>107122889
Digging this build. my daily driver PC is this Phantom 410, loaded with a Lenovo (!) 2080 Super, 2x16GB OEM type 2666mhz unbranded DDR4, and a Ryzen 2700x. I made sure to actually run a Lightscribe DVD-RW drive in it for cool factor. It belonged to a friend and the original intent was for me to paint it purple and black like covenant gear from the Halo series of games. Now that he passed away I'm afraid to mess it up so I'm going to source another one to actually clean up and paint.
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>>107125847
>There's no way to test for this
don't all source games have timedemos? i understand that a standard benchmark might not exist right now, but it should be possible in theory
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>>107125854
Don't buy the 8gb card.
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>>107125854
buy the 8gb card
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>>107125874
RDNA2 just hit the maintenance branch and RDNA3 is one year or two away from the same fate, at least the 8gb card will be supported for 4 more years
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stop guys, they are upgrading from a 6600+5600x build. the minimum worthwhile upgrade is a 16gb 9060xt. the only question is whether they should upgrade their cpu too or not!
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>>107125887
Oh yeah lol somehow forgot about that drama.
I mean I still wouldn't endorse the 8gb card, but can't say for certain which option is less shitty now.
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>>107125874
>>107125877
>>107125887
if its relevant, my monitor is only 1080p (ultrawide)
>>107125910
i'm selling my current machine and building another, so i'm getting everything new
let me se if with a cheaper cooler i can get a 16gb 9060xt within my budget
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>>107125871
The community could definitely start a drive to collect some statistics (or Valve could post theirs publicly) but... the Dota 2 community... uh...
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>>107125925
The 9060 XT at least will run the games, sure you may need to drop some settings in a few years but at least it will do fine and 8GB should be fine for most of the next 4 years as you'll have cross generation period in which they'll still be targetting the ps5 and ps5 pro until 2029
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>>107125937
you can drop down to ryzen 7600/9600x to save money. the 12-core 7900 is useful if you render videos 24/7 or run gentoo
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>>107125937
the 9060 XT 16GB will have better resale value in the future so i think its better than having a beefier cooler
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What 4k 27" mystery chinese brand monitor do I buy if the KTC M27P6 is not available?
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>>107126016
Koorui S2741LM is the clone of it
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>>107126016
I simply don't recommend mystery meat Chinese monitors.
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holy shit, i think i fucking did it
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X, 6C/12T, 3.9–5.4 GHz
Motherboard: Gigabyte B850M DS3H, DDR5, AM5, mATX
GPU: Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse, 16 GB GDDR6
RAM: Lexar Thor OC 32 GB (2×16 GB) DDR5-6000 MHz CL32
SSD: Adata Legend 860, 1 TB, NVMe PCIe 4.0
PSU: Gigabyte P650G PG5, 650 W, 80 Plus Gold, ATX 3.1

Cooler: Pichau Falcon ARGB 120 mm
Fans: Acegeek Silverline 5×120 mm ARGB kit
Case: Aigo DarkFlash Aquarius Mesh (black, acrylic side)

the only place i cheaped out was the PSU, but even it seems to be relatively good
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>>107126083
>6C/12T
you ain't making it through 2026 with those specs
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LOWER THE PRICE OF THE 265K ALREADY

AT $200 I BUILD MY PC

8200MHZ RAM? WHY THE FUCK NOT

6000MHZ COSTS THE SAME NOW ANYWAY
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>>107126064
they're good and cheap if you dont mind having no warranty and bootleg vrr
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>>107122889
I am such a fucking market nigger it's insane.
Bought everything on credit, refunded as I knew the extra overhead when you lose your job suddenly isn't a good idea and now the RAM market spikes. It's so fucking over.
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>>107124086
My pulse 7900gre has the zero fan bs till around 55c, after that the fan curve is ok. Just disable the zero fan bs. I had to manually patch the loonix kernel to allow this but it works great now. They are ball bearing fans and quiet anyway.
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>>107126096
what do you mean?
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OH MY GOD
YES
SO GLAD I FUCKING WAITED
4X HDD
5X SSD
5.25 BAY
AND IT'S NOT FUCKING ANCIENT
HAS SHIT LIKE USBC
I NEED THIS CASE
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>>107126179
I was so close to buying those Pop Airs but they don't support enough HDDs
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>>107126164
gonna build a loony pc too, got a guide?
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>>107126229
just use the pc you have now
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BUILD NOW
YOU SAW THE LAST GAMERS NEXUS HW NEWS
THESE COMPANIES ARE TELLING THEIR INVESTORS THEY HAVE SUBSTRATE SHORTAGES
THEY DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT CONSUMER
IT'S ALL AI DATACENTER FOCUSED
BUILD NOW
A HIGH END CPU WILL BE GOLD DUST SOON
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>>107125462
>Too lazy to check psu tier list right now, do that yourself.
where are you checking the tiers?
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If you buy an Intel CPU, that is now 10% owned by USGOV and 5% owned by NVIDIA and the gov tells intel to put 200 backdoors into it and extra tech that lets them switch them on when every they want how possible is that to happen?
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>>107126282
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
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Bought a used gpu that was used for mining and it's arriving in a week.

Tell me I made a wise purchase.

Please?
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>>107126297
Could have bought a GT 710 for all I know
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>>107126297
what gpu? how much you paid? what else could you afford?
who the fuck could we know anon
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>>107126297
*pats on head*
well done poorfag
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>>107126237
I meant for patching the fan curve
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>>107126297
i hope it was a 3080 TI or 3090 TI (those are only 3 year old unlike the old 3090 and 3080 which are 5 and are prone to have issues)
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>>107126321
maybe they mean the amdgpu.ppfeaturemask flag?
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so which one is it for PSU /vg/?
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/
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>>107126297
Depends on how many bucks you saved.
Mining is fine if it was occasionally cleaned up and repasted.
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>>107126338
The tier lists are basing their grades from HWBuster/Cybenetics reviews.
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>>107126311
>>107126324
>>107126345
...3080 for $290 minus tax
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>>107126266
Kicking myself for getting a 9800x3d instead of the 9950...
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>>107125300
You can get 120fps in a dogshit moba like dota without splurging on the most expensive AMD cpu out there, dotard.
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>>107126483
i hope it was a 12gb model at least, make sure the temperatures are fine and if not look for a legit place to repaste it, also look to undervolt it the 3080 pushes 320–350W quite easily so your electricity bill will feel the hit
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So, I fucked up a little bit last year and I would like some advice. I needed a case that had enough USB ports in the front for easy access and didn't want to buy a USB hub, but also had a 5.25 bay because I still watch DVDs, fuck Netflix. So I settled on the Cougar MX330, which has been an alright case for the most part. My issue is that I didn't account for the width of my GPU, so the side panel doesn't fit without bending the shit out of the GPU power cables and it's got me a bit scared.

So from here it looks like I have 2 solutions.
1, get a new case. The Cougar was only like $45 since I got it on a sale so its not like I'd be missing the cash, but the only case I've seen that ticks all my boxes is the Fractal Design Define 7, which has questionable reviews regarding securing the 5.25 bay so I would also probably want some sort of bracket for peace of mind. Also its like $200.

Or 2, keep on using this case but get cable extenders with a 90 degree angle for the GPU power cables, redo the cable management, and hope they fit and that it doesn't fry my shit.

What would you do in this situation? I should have just handled this shit when it became an issue but more important stuff just got in the way so I let it sit without a side panel for a long time by convincing myself "it's good for the air flow!" and other cope, but now I need to finish it all up.
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>>107126539
>>107126483
You should be able to do repasting yourself if needed (high temps, especially hotspot) not like any warranty left on thing probably.
290 bucks for a 3080 is good imo, especially if it's the 12gb one.
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i like my fans borderline non audible idc if it negatively affects my thermals slightly
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>>107126619
If you're happy, I'm happy with your system's thermals.
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>>107126544
Pop Air with an IO hub?
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Romanian Black Friday in 20 minutes and I still don't know what PSU and CASE to get or aim for if it's reduced in price. Would buy full-price ones either way if they are decent.
My components are power efficient, and if I upgrade, it'll be for other power-efficient ones.
Estimated Wattage: 504W via PartPicker for my components.
I only care about function over form, no LEDs or shit like that.
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>>107126544
>2, keep on using this case but get cable extenders with a 90 degree angle for the GPU power cables, redo the cable management, and hope they fit and that it doesn't fry my shit

I've been using https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7FGGQPJ with no problems for a while but my GPU is only a 4070 Super (so, 220 watt max).
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>>107126654
cybenetics.com
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I really don't like how non-standardized hard drive trays and brackets have become. Every case maker has their own proprietary bullshit rails instead of going by a universal mounting mechanism.
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>>107126483
*pats on head*
you did well



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